Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs Reply #30 – May 08, 2021, 09:19:08 am Quote from: PaulP on May 08, 2021, 09:10:05 amhttps://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/929160/-it-was-pretty-much-done-jones-opens-up-on-renaissanceStraight from the horse's mouth - Jones doesn't know who exactly made the decision to move him back, but he gives credit to Josh Fraser for making it work, and Dale Amos to a lesser extent. Teague also praised Fraser in his presser the other day for Jonesy's move down back. 1 Likes
Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs Reply #31 – May 08, 2021, 10:42:09 am I'm sure a few years back it came out that it was Paul Brodie who made the suggestion, of course he didn't make it happen, that was Fraser and I'm very sad Fraser is no longer associated with Carlton because anyone who been to a VFL game will tell you he's a A-Grade coach.
Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs Reply #32 – May 08, 2021, 12:54:56 pm Quote from: PaulP on May 08, 2021, 09:10:05 amhttps://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/929160/-it-was-pretty-much-done-jones-opens-up-on-renaissanceStraight from the horse's mouth - Jones doesn't know who exactly made the decision to move him back, but he gives credit to Josh Fraser for making it work, and Dale Amos to a lesser extent. He is always extremely articulate and personable when interviewed. 1 Likes
Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs Reply #33 – May 08, 2021, 02:43:17 pm Quote from: LP on May 08, 2021, 10:42:09 amI'm sure a few years back it came out that it was Paul Brodie who made the suggestion, of course he didn't make it happen, that was Fraser and I'm very sad Fraser is no longer associated with Carlton because anyone who been to a VFL game will tell you he's a A-Grade coach.it was Brodiehttps://www.examiner.com.au/story/5274016/liam-jones-unlikely-comeback-comes-full-circle/QuoteEarly in the 2017 VFL season Jones, out of desperation, was thrown into the backline for the Northern Blues at the suggestion of Carlton recruiter Paul Brodie. 1 Likes
Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs Reply #34 – May 08, 2021, 05:12:54 pm When are they going to post the bloody sides, it's getting beyond joke 1 Likes
Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs Reply #35 – May 08, 2021, 05:20:38 pm Quote from: Lods on May 08, 2021, 02:43:17 pmit was Brodiehttps://www.examiner.com.au/story/5274016/liam-jones-unlikely-comeback-comes-full-circle/I listened to the whole podcast, and Jones didn't mention Brodie's name once. It's not a major issue, but I do prefer having the right information.
Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs Reply #36 – May 08, 2021, 05:50:52 pm Quote from: Professer E on May 08, 2021, 05:12:54 pmWhen are they going to post the bloody sides, it's getting beyond jokeAround 6:30 I believe
Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs Reply #37 – May 08, 2021, 05:51:41 pm Quote from: PaulP on May 08, 2021, 05:20:38 pmI listened to the whole podcast, and Jones didn't mention Brodie's name once. It's not a major issue, but I do prefer having the right information.I thought you said Jones didn't know exactly who was responsible...Tell him it was Brodie
Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs Reply #38 – May 08, 2021, 06:02:16 pm Quote from: Lods on May 08, 2021, 05:51:41 pmI thought you said Jones didn't know exactly who was responsible...Tell him it was Brodie I did say that, because that's exactly what Jones said. I'll pass on the message.
Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs Reply #39 – May 08, 2021, 06:05:08 pm Quote from: PaulP on May 08, 2021, 06:02:16 pmI did say that, because that's exactly what Jones said. I'll pass on the message. Lots of the articles are behind a paywall Paul.... but Google "Liam Jones and Paul Brodie" and the summaries indicate it was Brodie who first suggested the idea, and the coaches gave it a try.
Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs Reply #40 – May 08, 2021, 06:18:43 pm In fairness to Brodie, Fraser and Jones, there is a hell of a difference between the suggestion and the implementation.
Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs Reply #41 – May 08, 2021, 06:19:50 pm Quote from: Lods on May 08, 2021, 06:05:08 pmLots of the articles are behind a paywall Paul.... but Google "Liam Jones and Paul Brodie" and the summaries indicate it was Brodie who first suggested the idea, and the coaches gave it a try.I don't know what to tell you Lods. Jones mentions plenty of people in that interview : Matthew Scarlett, Rodney Eade, Josh Bruce, Josh Fraser, Kade Simpson, Bolts, his parents, siblings, former team mates............I can't remember them all. Given that the interview was ostensibly a casual chat about his journey to 150 games, it would, IMO, be a significant oversight and / or slap in the face if he left out the one person who came up with the idea. He says he was stuck on 80 odd games and well on track to being delisted, before being moved back.
Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs Reply #42 – May 08, 2021, 06:32:37 pm Quote from: LP on May 08, 2021, 06:18:43 pmIn fairness to Brodie, Fraser and Jones, there is a hell of a difference between the suggestion and the implementation.Yes, notwithstanding all of the above, moving a failed forward to the backline is not exactly an earth shatteringly original idea - it seems to happen every season. Making the move a successful one is another matter entirely.
Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs Reply #43 – May 08, 2021, 06:33:22 pm I find the the omission of SPS hard to believe! 1 Likes
Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs Reply #44 – May 08, 2021, 06:34:39 pm Doggies No MartÃn or English, that hurts their structure big time!! Silvagni, Williams IN SPS, Dow, McGovern outMedical sub from DeKoning, SPS, Dow, Setterfield