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Think he was a mercenary, Caro got stuck into him and tried to bait him every week on Footy Class and Bec was also copping plenty through the media.Think he just wanted out...What was left for him in the world of football and media?

Teague can coach.

The question is, are we going to let him?

Do any other coaches see so much weight of expectation just on 2 years into their tenure with the whole covid situation bubbling along in the background?

It would be quite challenging and its almost a perfect storm for us as a footy club.

If Teague can coach at AFL level, why haven't we seen evidence of it.

I keep harping on about it but poor team selection, playing blokes out of position, persevering with a game plan that doesn't work (at least with the players we put on the park), poor preparation (in terms of matchups, tactics etc) and inability to change things during games aren't characteristics of someone who can coach.

All teams are affected by COVID so that's not really a factor but, yes, Teague has only been in the job for a little over two years.  Of course, Nicks, Rutten, Longmuir, Noble and Ratten haven't been in their jobs quite as long and, with the exception of Noble, all have their teams performing a little better than us.  They may not have the same level of expectation placed upon them, but Teague represents a radical departure from what the club told us it was doing and, so far, we're not seeing what the change was supposed to bring.

I think that it would be wrong for the club to sack yet another coach, particularly after only two years.  It would also be wrong to let things continue as they are and not bring in the best assistants to give Teague the chance to show that he can coach.

If Teague can coach at AFL level, why haven't we seen evidence of it.

I keep harping on about it but poor team selection, playing blokes out of position, persevering with a game plan that doesn't work (at least with the players we put on the park), poor preparation (in terms of matchups, tactics etc) and inability to change things during games aren't characteristics of someone who can coach.

All teams are affected by COVID so that's not really a factor but, yes, Teague has only been in the job for a little over two years.  Of course, Nicks, Rutten, Longmuir, Noble and Ratten haven't been in their jobs quite as long and, with the exception of Noble, all have their teams performing a little better than us.  They may not have the same level of expectation placed upon them, but Teague represents a radical departure from what the club told us it was doing and, so far, we're not seeing what the change was supposed to bring.

I think that it would be wrong for the club to sack yet another coach, particularly after only two years.  It would also be wrong to let things continue as they are and not bring in the best assistants to give Teague the chance to show that he can coach.

If Teague can coach at AFL level, why haven't we seen evidence of it.

I keep harping on about it but poor team selection, playing blokes out of position, persevering with a game plan that doesn't work (at least with the players we put on the park), poor preparation (in terms of matchups, tactics etc) and inability to change things during games aren't characteristics of someone who can coach.

All teams are affected by COVID so that's not really a factor but, yes, Teague has only been in the job for a little over two years.  Of course, Nicks, Rutten, Longmuir, Noble and Ratten haven't been in their jobs quite as long and, with the exception of Noble, all have their teams performing a little better than us.  They may not have the same level of expectation placed upon them, but Teague represents a radical departure from what the club told us it was doing and, so far, we're not seeing what the change was supposed to bring.

I think that it would be wrong for the club to sack yet another coach, particularly after only two years.  It would also be wrong to let things continue as they are and not bring in the best assistants to give Teague the chance to show that he can coach.

Slightly offside but probably one reason why neither Bolton or Teague have been helped....interesting article in The West over here today about our recruiting/drafting from 2010-2014....so in the 4 or 5 years leading up to the rebuild and the mega draft of 2015. I can't remember the exact numbers but something like 34 or 35 players drafted and only two left on the list....Cripps and Curnow. It made comparisons with the more successful teams and how many players those clubs still have on their lists from those years.

Reference was made to how many of those players would/should be around the 200+ game mark now. I know the draft isn't an exact science and every club has had their disasters....but to only have 2 players left from those 4/5 years of drafting is an incredibly poor result and certainly wouldn't have helped the club over the last 4-5 years.

Slightly offside but probably one reason why neither Bolton or Teague have been helped....interesting article in The West over here today about our recruiting/drafting from 2010-2014....so in the 4 or 5 years leading up to the rebuild and the mega draft of 2015. I can't remember the exact numbers but something like 34 or 35 players drafted and only two left on the list....Cripps and Curnow. It made comparisons with the more successful teams and how many players those clubs still have on their lists from those years.

Reference was made to how many of those players would/should be around the 200+ game mark now. I know the draft isn't an exact science and every club has had their disasters....but to only have 2 players left from those 4/5 years of drafting is an incredibly poor result and certainly wouldn't have helped the club over the last 4-5 years.

If Teague can coach at AFL level, why haven't we seen evidence of it.

I keep harping on about it but poor team selection, playing blokes out of position, persevering with a game plan that doesn't work (at least with the players we put on the park), poor preparation (in terms of matchups, tactics etc) and inability to change things during games aren't characteristics of someone who can coach.

All teams are affected by COVID so that's not really a factor but, yes, Teague has only been in the job for a little over two years.  Of course, Nicks, Rutten, Longmuir, Noble and Ratten haven't been in their jobs quite as long and, with the exception of Noble, all have their teams performing a little better than us.  They may not have the same level of expectation placed upon them, but Teague represents a radical departure from what the club told us it was doing and, so far, we're not seeing what the change was supposed to bring.

I think that it would be wrong for the club to sack yet another coach, particularly after only two years.  It would also be wrong to let things continue as they are and not bring in the best assistants to give Teague the chance to show that he can coach.

I'd bet London to a brick that most, if not all of SPS, Dow, O'Brien etc. would be flying at the better clubs, instead of languishing in CFC limbo. For every Weitering, Walsh, McKay etc. there are way too many fails to be ignored IMO.

Related, many criticized the "get games into them" method we adopted across those few years. Many warned "they need strong bodies/leaders around them"
That, IMO wasn't achieved. Add the bad luck (?) with injuries and our coach merry go round, and we have a recipe for stagnation or even rotting.

FWIW I think our list is in much better shape than pre rebuild. I believe we can progress markedly without radical change. A big part of this process IMO is having the (best 22+) boys play together repeatedly.