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Reply #360
Looks like the BCCI has given up protecting the IPL players, they can just wait a week or so and renamed it the Infected Players League!

I'm sympathetic yet indifferent to the likes of Slater moaning, these guys chose to go there for very very good money, despite knowing the risk before they left, a risk they chose to ignore for cash!

If they can pay for charter flights to ferry them to resorts, why the feck can't they stump up for a repatriation flight and the related quarantine costs. Why does repatriation have to come at the tax payers cost when they chose to go for profit?

I'm afraid I'm very cynical, I doubt Slater fears for his wellbeing, he's might even have already been vaccinated, is it his wallet he is protecting?
Sorry but if you want the big bucks and you take the risk then you are on your own, its a private league and not a Aus government sanctioned tour so Slater and crew need to stop whinging, wear a mask and tough it out.

Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #361
Sorry if this is in the wrong spot

There are still a heap of Aussies scattered around the world that want to come home that can't.  It's only taken 14+ months for the Feds to do nothing useful about quarantine, to then say essentially we have to protect those that are here, we can't allow our citizens to come in from O/S.

I don't think Slater or the cricketers are asking Gov to pay costs - but to give them an opportunity to get home.  The cricketers at least have a voice (although, agree that it is hard to give them sympathy), unlike some, say aid and relief workers, tourists in the wrong place at the wrong time, or those with ill relatives. (A friend of mine's father passed away in India in December (not Covid), really tough on him that he couldn't get there and then help his mum).

Having said that, I have heard reports that the infection & death rate (particularly in India) are under reported by a huge factor.

Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #362
Not an ounce of sympathy for the cricketers or Slater and crew.  Cross hire / wet lease a plane yes.  Then give them hell when they land.

And for putting us to the trouble for turning your crap aircraft around and sending it back home?  $200,000.


Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #363
Nice article;

IPL shambles a result of putting greed above common sense.
This is what hubris looks like.

Spells it out in fairly plain terms. Fundamentally, India is a overpopulated country that socially and politically values human life very very lowly, and the lives of foreigners even less so!

The author probably won't get much argument from myself or others that have travelled there.

As for Slater's claim he had Federal Permission to work in the IPL, true, but the Feds didn't send him there and giving him permission to pursue his employment doesn't obfuscate his own responsibility in that decision chain! Claiming the Federal Government is now neglecting him is a big stretch, I dare say they actually probably warned him not to go if it can at all be avoided!

btw., As I understand it, for the Internationals, the IPL is no play no pay! The only players involved with guaranteed payments are BCCI contracted players.
The Force Awakens!

Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #364
Nice article;

IPL shambles a result of putting greed above common sense.
This is what hubris looks like.

Spells it out in fairly plain terms. Fundamentally, India is a overpopulated country that socially and politically values human life very very lowly, and the lives of foreigners even less so!

The author probably won't get much argument from myself or others that have travelled there.

As for Slater's claim he had Federal Permission to work in the IPL, true, but the Feds didn't send him there and giving him permission to pursue his employment doesn't obfuscate his own responsibility in that decision chain! Claiming the Federal Government is now neglecting him is a big stretch, I dare say they actually probably warned him not to go if it can at all be avoided!

btw., As I understand it, for the Internationals, the IPL is no play no pay! The only players involved with guaranteed payments are BCCI contracted players.
I watched the nine late news last night and they had a insight into the plight of the Indian public Hospital system and confronting stuff it was to watch. A mother surrounded by her kids in a hospital bed with no staff in sight and them trying to perform untrained CPR on her. A Doctor then casually walks in and very matter of fact checks her pulse and says dont bother anymore she is dead.
The Hospital was just jam packed with similar cases, no proper PPE gear, no oxygen and hardly any staff which given the circumstances isnt hard to fathom given the risks to their health.
The Directors of the hospital were at a clinic next door getting their CoVid jab and denying their was an issue, one Doctor was told what to say by a Director and just gave a heap of spin as a response.
Life is cheap in India but CoVid has made it a lot cheaper and its every man and women for themselves if you are the rank and file working class....

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Reply #365
I watched the nine late news last night and they had a insight into the plight of the Indian public Hospital system and confronting stuff it was to watch. A mother surrounded by her kids in a hospital bed with no staff in sight and them trying to perform untrained CPR on her. A Doctor then casually walks in and very matter of fact checks her pulse and says dont bother anymore she is dead.
The Hospital was just jam packed with similar cases, no proper PPE gear, no oxygen and hardly any staff which given the circumstances isnt hard to fathom given the risks to their health.
The Directors of the hospital were at a clinic next door getting their CoVid jab and denying their was an issue, one Doctor was told what to say by a Director and just gave a heap of spin as a response.
Life is cheap in India but CoVid has made it a lot cheaper and its every man and women for themselves if you are the rank and file working class....

It's challenging vision EB.

I listened to a conversation on the wireless today where folk were arguing that such vision shouldn't be put to air because it shows India in a poor light.  What a crock of sh1t!

Yes, India is a developing nation but successive governments have spent billions on armaments and nuclear weapons development.  It doesn't help that their neighbours also possess nuclear weapons but their neglect of the health system and the majority of the population is criminal.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #366
Bancroft's mixed messaging is a best odd at worst malicious. Not sure why, perhaps his next MCC contract depends on knifing the backs he thought he was once a part of!

Was Bancroft ever a obvious choice for test selection, we know he had a power of runs, but I can't say he ever looked comfortable as a potential test batsmen even at Shield level. Is the current situation what you get when guys get rewarded test spots without the obvious skills to retain it, and then feel spurned when they are discarded?

Would Smith returning as captain make this situation better or worse?
The Force Awakens!

Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #367
Bancroft is a naive kid who was chucked under the bus by the NSW cricket mafia. I don't think there was anything in what he said.  Any doubts as to who runs Aussie cricket and sets the cculture....not.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #368
Bancroft is a naive kid who was chucked under the bus by the NSW cricket mafia. I don't think there was anything in what he said.  Any doubts as to who runs Aussie cricket and sets the cculture....not.
Fwiw, I think in this case NSW Cricket and the MCC are one in the same.

( Note; To prevent confusion to some readers, in this context MCC is the Marylebone Cricket Club (Lords), not Melbourne. For years NSW Cricket and the MCC have monopolised placements in County Cricket, and used that leverage to shift the best of Australian young talent into the NSW Cricket system pretty much against their will. If you are a talented kid playing cricket around Australia and yet to make your name, either you're in to NSW or you're out of County Cricket without some exceptional efforts! )
The Force Awakens!

Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #369
Yar... when you get your baggy green, you also get your nsw blue cap.... or is that vice versa?  >:D

Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #370
Vice versa.

Australian cricket is so much stronger when other states have players in the test side,  because you have to be an absolutely outstanding player to push a NSW incumbent out.   Leave NSW,  or grind away for years in minor leagues,  perfecting your game.  I reckon Neser will be the next one.  
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #371
Going to be interesting if they stick fat with Starc in the ashes.
Copped a real pounding vs the Indian second eleven out here with no name tailenders like Thakur and Sundar carting him around the park last time he was in action.
IMHO they will stick with him vs the Poms and go the full on pace assault.
If Pattinson is fit he might take his place but I don't see Neser getting a game. I think the tracks will be suited to tall quicks who bang it in and they won't be giving the English anything that seams/swings that will suit their attack. Maybe the Brisbane test would be some chance for Neser to play if he was really firing in Shield cricket..

Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #372
Starc is a real issue, and selectors need to man up and drop him until he starts taking wickets consistently again.   I'm not an insider but wondering if he's burnt out or something.

His pace is down,  he hasn't moved a ball since sandpapergate, the jaffas are increasingly infrequent and his batting has declined. His shield season - either side of the tests - was putrid.  Blind Freddy could see he shouldn't have played in Brisbane.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #373
Watching England vs South Africa B.. I mean New Zealand. Ex saffie Devon Conway with an even 200 at Lords in his debut test.
Saffers really have provided NZ and England with some players over recent years.
Like to see the ICC set a few more rules regarding qualifying periods for these import players as I have mentioned before.
South Africa would have had some very decent teams over the years given all the players they provide and really lose so many given the quota system that limits opportunities and big money from other countries that buy them a new life elsewhere.

 

Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #374
Marnus is a saffie EB
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?