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Re: AFL Rd 3 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #60
Dropping Kemp was a mistake last September, I don't think we should make that same mistake again.

I think that our defence works better with both Kemp and McGovern in the mix, but Kemp does struggle against much taller opponents.  The problem is that all seven defenders are playing well and working well together.  Weitering has to be an automatic in but who goes out ... Boyd?
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 3 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #61
Dropping Kemp was a mistake last September, I don't think we should make that same mistake again.
Yep, Id swing him or Gov forward for a game to see what that does to their defense. 
"everything you know is wrong"

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Re: AFL Rd 3 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #62
Martin tweaked a hammy so he won't be back.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #63
Martin tweaked a hammy so he won't be back.

I thought he was recovering from a knee injury

Missing another game?

Re: AFL Rd 3 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #64
The potential ins are Weitering (automatic), Marchbank (unlikely) and Motlop (probably).
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 3 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #65
I think that our defence works better with both Kemp and McGovern in the mix, but Kemp does struggle against much taller opponents.  The problem is that all seven defenders are playing well and working well together.  Weitering has to be an automatic in but who goes out ... Boyd?

Isn't this the discussion we were having in the other thread? Kemp and McGovern are good at filling in as a KPP but are not actually KPPs.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #66
Hard to see both Marchbank and Weitering coming in. Weitering would be automatic and one of Young or Kemp likely goes out.

AFL article also mentioned Elijah Hollands in the mix too.

I think Motlop replaces Fantasia and Durdin probably survives as the sub....unless he's dropped for E. Hollands.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #67
Maybe play Kemp in the forward line and bring Marchbank in.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #68
Maybe play Kemp in the forward line and bring Marchbank in.
Hearing Tony Jones go into bat for 2m Peter makes me want to spew, Jones had Plowman hung, drawn and quartered before our lads judgement.

PS; What is Scott Jnr going to coach now, the AFL just removed 50% of his skill base!
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Re: AFL Rd 3 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #69
Maybe play Kemp in the forward line and bring Marchbank in.
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2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

 

Re: AFL Rd 3 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #70
Isn't this the discussion we were having in the other thread? Kemp and McGovern are good at filling in as a KPP but are not actually KPPs.

I don’t consider McGovern to be a KPD and the club doesn’t either.  He’s in the team for his intercept marking and ability to help the KPDs.

Kemp is a KPD but, like many of the KPDs who try to play on Harry McKay, he struggles against very tall opponents.  It’s simply a matter of selecting the KPDs best able to play on the opposition KPFs.  North have two very tall KPFs, one of whom is a very good footballer.  I’d play Weitering on Larkey and Young on Coleman-Jones.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 3 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #71
If the club doesn't think McGovern is a KPD, why when he came back through the VFL a couple of seasons ago did they play him in the ruck?
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Re: AFL Rd 3 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #72
I don’t consider McGovern to be a KPD and the club doesn’t either.  He’s in the team for his intercept marking and ability to help the KPDs.

Kemp is a KPD but, like many of the KPDs who try to play on Harry McKay, he struggles against very tall opponents.  It’s simply a matter of selecting the KPDs best able to play on the opposition KPFs.  North have two very tall KPFs, one of whom is a very good footballer.  I’d play Weitering on Larkey and Young on Coleman-Jones.

https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/brodie-kemp/
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The word on Kemp coming into the season was that he was destined for more midfield minutes after finding a home as a high-marking intercept defender in 2018, but he would end up having an impact just about everywhere. He adapted his kick-dominant game to become a handball-happy midfield extractor, was solid in his usual defensive post for Vic Country, and eventually a game winner for them up forward. Kemp’s success up forward lends to his key strengths of impact and overhead marking. He showed his worth with a huge contested mark in the dying seconds against South Australia to snare the winning goal, while doing the same twice in the last quarter against Western Australia to almost drag his side over the line. All were really game defining moments, and while Kemp does not win crazy amounts of the ball, he has important touches. Add to that a sub-three second 20m sprint and phenomenal agility and you have a prospect that can pull off just about anything. A good size to boot, Kemp would be a top 10 lock if not for his recent injury.
One mans opinion, sure, but shared by plenty of others.

Not sure how many 'midfield extractors' are classed as KPD's a year later.

Despite the size difference and despite my own personal opinion on the matter, i'd still prefer to play Weitering and Kemp over Weitering and Young.

Only way kemp will be defeated is if our team defence fails and he's left 1-on-1 with his taller opponent with no chance to jump at the ball.

Young on the other hand could be defeated by his opponent a number of ways.


Re: AFL Rd 3 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #74
We aren't losing against this mob, surely those days are over.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time