Interested in the forums faithful on ranking our players out of 10 on their ability to hit targets 30m-50m…..think we just lost a 2-3 in Mitch Robinson….
Hawthorn seem to have developed a zero tolerance policy to any players on their list that can't execute basic foot skills in hitting targets….hence back to back flags and looking a big chance for a 3peat
I would rank our best precision kicks currently as 7-9 ranked from 10 as
Gibbs
Murphy
was Scotland but retired….
Mensal
Yazz
I'm scratching my head to get anyone else in that high bracket…any thoughts?
Butchers in the 4 and unders
Armfield
Casboult
Bell
Curfew
Lucas gone
Warnock…if he gets a kick
Carrazzo
lot of average kicks 5-7 amongst the rest including Simmo unfortunately..great courage but high ball drop…like Carrots…like Bolt…poor technique kills us…why do they turn up each year after a summer where they can refine their skills and turn up with the same crap skills…got my head in on this
Curfew?
Interested in the forums faithful on ranking our players out of 10 on their ability to hit targets 30m-50m…..think we just lost a 2-3 in Mitch Robinson….
Hawthorn seem to have developed a zero tolerance policy to any players on their list that can't execute basic foot skills in hitting targets….hence back to back flags and looking a big chance for a 3peat
I would rank our best precision kicks currently as 7-9 ranked from 10 as
Gibbs
Murphy
was Scotland but retired….
Mensal
Yazz
I'm scratching my head to get anyone else in that high bracket…any thoughts?
Butchers in the 4 and unders
Armfield
Casboult
Bell
Curfew
Lucas gone
Warnock…if he gets a kick
Carrazzo
lot of average kicks 5-7 amongst the rest including Simmo unfortunately..great courage but high ball drop…like Carrots…like Bolt…poor technique kills us…why do they turn up each year after a summer where they can refine their skills and turn up with the same crap skills…got my head in on this
Jacksh is a very nice kick of the footy and Henderson doesnt have a bad technique...agree on the technical stuff about the ball drop...too high and some drop the ball with two hands and dont guide it
onto the foot...
Curfew?
If Robbo was still on the list, I'd assume him but my guess is Curnow being autocorrected
I cringe when I see Walker, Docherty or Jammo coming of defence with the ball... they are not bad kicks but some of the decision making and execution at times...
Curfew?
If Robbo was still on the list, I'd assume him but my guess is Curnow being autocorrected
If deliberately misspelled I suggest Curnover would be a better name. :))
I cringe when I see Walker, Docherty or Jammo coming of defence with the ball... they are not bad kicks but some of the decision making and execution at times...
Agreed, people kept smashing the blokes we played as KPFs but the decision making is complete crud!
At least that can't put it on Bett's head anymore! ;)
Jammo is actually very good, if he makes the right decision.
But we are a dumb side, our blokes make dummy-leads and the opposition defenders don't go with them because they know we will predictably kick it to the bloke left with three on him!
I cringe when I see Walker, Docherty or Jammo coming of defence with the ball... they are not bad kicks but some of the decision making and execution at times...
I was wondering when someone would wake up to Docherty. He has so far to go yet everyone on here claims him as a draft victory. Fk knows how Brisbane picked up a short flanker with pick 12. That's not to say he can't develop, but he certainly needs to!
Curfew?
If Robbo was still on the list, I'd assume him but my guess is Curnow being autocorrected
If deliberately misspelled I suggest Curnover would be a better name. :))
:))
I am not really a great fan of Curnow's disposal either, but I'm outnumbered at the game by my friends who think he's great - I have to be really careful what I say. Similar story with Robbo, but I can act very smug next year, unless of course he makes a huge impact at the Lions then I'll get flayed! :-\
Interestingly, supporters of nearly every other club bemoan the same thing.
Drafting is all about beep tests, repeat sprints, vertical leaps, etc. None of that matters if you can't kick. Recruiters still do not recruit that way.
We'll "develop" their kicking skills... just like we did with Kane Lucas who I'm sure had a fantastic beep test.
Bell is a massive butcher of the ball but makes up for it with some serious heroics.
Glad we still have him now we lost Robbo.
Bell is a massive butcher of the ball but makes up for it with some serious heroics.
Glad we still have him now we lost Robbo.
Serious Heroics? :o
Bell is a massive butcher of the ball but makes up for it with some serious heroics.
Glad we still have him now we lost Robbo.
Agree....dont think I have seen Bell kick one ball cleanly, they are all mongrel drop punts that dont spin right but
as your rightly point out we need him for his muscle and judging by the training photo's we saw on the first day back on the track
he looks a very big unit with a lot more definition than his teammates in the upper body and arms.
Reckon Bell and Whiley can make up for Robbo's grunt factor...
Bell is a massive butcher of the ball but makes up for it with some serious heroics.
Glad we still have him now we lost Robbo.
Agree....dont think I have seen Bell kick one ball cleanly, they are all mongrel drop punts that dont spin right but
as your rightly point out we need him for his muscle and judging by the training photo's we saw on the first day back on the track
he looks a very big unit with a lot more definition than his teammates in the upper body and arms.
Reckon Bell and Whiley can make up for Robbo's grunt factor...
ellwood- see Bells running goal in the last game in the last quarter against Port in Adelaide in 2013...blinder in the wet...
Bell is a massive butcher of the ball but makes up for it with some serious heroics.
Glad we still have him now we lost Robbo.
Serious Heroics? :o
yep
I even got one of these
(http://i.imgur.com/BlAqK.png)
A ball butcher is only a serious issue combined with poor ball use.
The important thing is the ability to assess the situation and choose the right option. I reckon most blokes who kick poorly are often not poor kicks of the footy but just absolutely choose the wrong option.
This is why Carrots, Simpson and Curnow are okay. You wouldnt want too many that are not great kicks of the footy, but so long as they choose the right option and get close enough to that mark, then that can hide the problem a little bit.
This is what hurt Mitch the most I think. Its not that he was a butcher, its just that he often chose the wrong targets. This can amplify the inability to hit targets as they choose targets they think they are capable of hitting rather than ones they know that they can.