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Phillips will be sent on his way as soon as Essendon have another ruck ready to roll. If they think Bryan’s that guy, bye bye Phillips.

Not a real fan of Setterfield and his contested work which has always been disappointing, relying on him vs a team like Richmond in an important game would concern me.
Not sure who Essendon had in the middle in the VFL but I want to see evidence for more than one game that he can produce consistent contested football vs some half decent players.

To be fair Setters was played on the wing in AFL he is another long list of natural inside mids that struggles with flexibility

Ill guess and say sadly, Setters, Dow and Philp have extremely limited careers at Carlton. Given their draft profiles, the types of players they are and how long they have been languishing in the twos is a tell I reckon.

In some respects, I guess, 2022 is the year that Vossy and his coaching group get to encourage and see the best from everyone. In crude terms, who are the hackers and non-hackers re our new game plan/culture.

I reckon Setters and Philp deserve every opportunity this year. Sadly, I think, the Dow ship has sailed.

Out of interest Baggers, why have you categorised the three above as such?

Ill guess and say sadly, Setters, Dow and Philp have extremely limited careers at Carlton. Given their draft profiles, the types of players they are and how long they have been languishing in the twos is a tell I reckon.

Dow is contracted so I think he will be traded and look for a fresh start. Setters is no world beater but will provide depth when needed good over head, god disposal can win the contested ball and kick a goal when he is on. Philp is contracted and needs time - starting to get continuity in his football now after all the interruptions . He has good attributes, tackles hard, fast, good kick. Just doesn't get involved enough at the moment. Hopefully that will come to him soon because he will be an asset if it does.

Setters good disposal? I must be watching someone else.

Agree...kicks lollypops up in the air and has been guilty of avoiding heavy contests, while he is a good size he isnt a bash and crash mid like Cripps, Kennedy, Hewett but doesnt have the finesse or skill level like Cerra to play as that distributor type mid either.
He will get his share of ball in the twos playing on newbie kids from the burbs but I cant see him staying on the list even as backup unless Voss sees something in him that I dont. Maybe he follows instructions well, trains hard etc etc but I dont see him improving, you look at Obrien and he never looks comfortable playing contested footy but he does have a go now and tries his best which is all you can ask. I have never felt Setterfield has pushed himself or given max effort very often and like Obrien did he needs a body of work in the twos to justify senior selection IMO.

Voss told Kennedy at the start of the year that there are only 2 inside midfield spots.

Cripps and Kennedy have the spots. Dow and Setterfield are back up to those guys.

What about George?

I'm assuming his primary role is to run with someone, his inside work is bonus. Really he should be All Australian.