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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Those frees were garbage.  He gave them away...


Let me kill that argument slightly.

Elliott engages his opponent to push off and create separation. They grab each other. Ump sees it pays a free kick. Watch every single duel and tell me that they aren't all identical.  I watched Rhys Stanley do similar to Max gawn (and arguably worse) and it was play on. 

The subjective nature here is what the problem is.  They ping Williams twice and then don't pay another free like it until mason Cox gets a bit of the same.

That equated to about 3 goals.  There was also the cripps handball paid holding the ball and then the jack crisp "drop" handball that was paid play on.

These things are a frequent occurrence, and I don't really debate the action I debate the consistency.   It's a free in our defensive 50 but you won't find a similar free for essentially the same action in our forward 50.  Why? 

The blocks that occur that take walsh off daicos and at other times cowan off Elliott.

They're not illegal.   Their blokes get on the bike and run around others who are there to hold illegally but no one cares about those holds. 
He put his arms around him, once you do that youre gone.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
who Melbourne or Geelong?  Had Cameron kicked like last week Geelong would have won.


What Melbourne didn't do is attack the ball carrier leaving players free in defensive 50.  They worked backwards to cover options which artificially creates panic and makes players kick longer to a contest.

We didn't change this against Geelong until it was far too late, and paid dearly for it.
Lever and May will just gobble up our bombs into the fwd line.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Williams coped two umpiring clangers early and fans spent the next four quarters blaming him for everything, he wasn't that bad.

Walsh left Daicos free unchecked in F50 in the critical game ending final moment, and fans are silent!
He gave away 2 or 3 frees for holding plain and simple, his opponents had him bluffed. Not a defenders a-hole.
I called out Walsh immediately and will continue to.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
I lived in a house of serious domestic violence for 22 years. I would love to tell people what I experienced but some might not want to hear the reality of what takes place. How it has a long term effect on children. I am happy to tell the story if people want to hear it first hand. How it was resolved after a further 25 years later.
I am sorry for what you had to experience Mantis. I personally think stories need to be told (as horrific as they might be) so people who live in a sheltered world (like me) can be horrified into understanding domestic violence and help in eradicating it.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
There are plenty of small problem
Charlie Curnows contested posession rate is over 60% for a key forward it needs to be under 50%. So he is working way too hard to win his posessions... thats down to various things - not giving him space to lead into and contesting ground balls which is not his job but has to go for them as small forwards are no where near it.
Lack of run and covering the ground. Filth always had 2-3 players tackling one Blue we did not reciprocate because we didnt have the team composition to cover the ground.
For a bloke who is meant to be an aerobic beast, he doesn't get on his bike much in an attempt to run his opponent ragged (or lay a tackle heaven forebid).
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Out coached is interesting.   I cant really take it when you lose by a goal and the scores were level with 2 minutes left. 

Do you get outcoached in that circumstance? 
Pues had extra rest too after anzac day.  The second quarter was our worst and where we let the game slip but our handballs and errant kicking had more to do with it than being out coached.

Irrespective of what we say we played last seasons premiers who have started hitting their stride recently.  It had danger game written all ober it from the get go. 
Ok Ill call a spade a spade and shoot Bambi, Walsh either fell asleep or had the wrong mindset at that stoppage. With the scores level and close to their goal, a defensive mindset had to be first and foremost. We let that happen too many times on the night, the last one was costly.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
The persistent problem we have, and which seems to have no solution, is that too many of our good senior players are physically fragile and are unavailable for selection for long periods of time, making it impossible to have a cohesive unit.

On the rare occasions when most of them do play on the same day we are given a glimpse of what is possible.  Then the injuries start again.

Unfortunately it is possible that where we are now on the ladder is as good as it gets with this list.


Spot on Macca, as soon as we get some back, they drop like flies again, and by that I mean the usual suspects.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
We badly miss Docherty. He is a steadying influence and he does the clutch things that win and save games.

We miss Jack Silvagni, because he can do all sorts of the jobs.
Our 3 tall forwards are not the problem in themselves, although I was bitterly disappointed in Charlie tonight. He doesn't work hard enough when he doesn't have the ball. It was really obvious. And when he could have stood up, he was beaten in one on ones and the ball left our forward line too easily. The problem with our forward setup is that our smalls are not keeping the ball in and they're not being dangerous.
H played a great game, but his last kick into the forward line probably lost us the game. Had he been able to get his kick to advantage of one of our players, we would have won the game than and there. Instead, he turned it over and the ball went up the other end. Hell, if he'd bombed it and he scored a point, it might have been enough. But just giving it away was lethal.

One of the things that was really obvious was our lack of leg speed.
Another was that we didn't tag Nick Daicos. Smother Daicos and they lose that midfield drive.
Charlie seems very clumsy at the moment, he is horribly out of form. His touch seems to have abandoned him. He used to turn blokes inside out at will. Still, hard to pot superstars when you have so many non contributors.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Team for tomorrow looks better than it has for a while, but it is still short of class:

B:  Lachie Young   Sam Durdin  Harry Lemmey
HB:  Billy Wilson  Dom Akuei  Brodie Kemp
C:  Ollie Hollands  Jaxon Binns  Tom Phillips
HF:  Ned Cahill  Rob Monahan  Ashton Moir
F: Liam McMahon  Luke Nelson  Alex Mirkov
R: Hudson O'Keefe  Jack Carroll Zavier Maher
Int:  Darcy Hogg  Wil White  Michael Lewis  B Lambert  Heath Ramshaw

Em:  Archie Stevens  Kristian Ferranato  Jess Gedi  Hayden Gill  C Verrel  L Prout  Blake Kuipers  Jack Lefroy

Alex Mirkov has really struggled since his return and is obviously a long way off the pace at the moment. On the other hand, he needs time on ground to get some form and fitness back.
Dom Akuei looks a long way off the pace. he has gone backwards and won't be on the list next year. Spots will be wanted, and he doesn't have the intensity to make it.
I'd be tempted to play Durdin next week for Young, if he gets through this game. he knows how to use his body, which Young doesn't.
Kemp also has a chance to impress: there is a spot there if he does the right thing.
I like what I see from Rob Monahan, but he is a long way off at the moment, especially in the key forward spot. He does have the pace and the intensity to make it.
Young just seems plain timid and frightened to go near the ball (ie scared or knows he'll make a blue). There was one passage of play where he flat out looked at the ball and didn't pick it up thinking another Carlton player would (might have been Cottrell maybe?). He was clearly closer to the footy and should have attacked it and ran off with it, instead, he filled his shorts.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
re: Williams......a nervous player when played down back and and when you add Young plus two inexperienced defenders in Cowan and Cincotta it puts a lot of pressure on Weitering to be the glue thats holds the backline together.
I think Williams has to play on the weakest small forward and never on the last line close to goal and my preference if he has to play is on the wing where he use his skillset to carry the ball and deliver and be removed from having to mind a man.
I cant see him in the team when we have our full crew back and ditto for Fantasia and Durdin.
He doesn't have the engine or the brute strength to play the modern wingers role (ie Acres and Cottrell).