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16 scoring shots from 56 Inside 50's is a terrible return. Just a dirty night all round.I'd love to know the I50 count for both sides in the first 56 mins.
How many hammies has he done Prof?...ridiculous selection when we had Lord or Binns fit and ready to go...Compare the pair
How many hammies has he done Prof?...ridiculous selection when we had Lord or Binns fit and ready to go...3 this year
I'm sorry...👏👏👏👏
I just cant see it.
Do folks really think the addition of Binns, Lord and Moir would have made a difference to that start?
We were being thrashed in the midfield.
Our 'elite' midfielders were getting soundly beaten.
Would our youngsters like Binns and Lord fared better than a Cripps, Walsh, Hewett
Our pressure and attack on the ball and opposition players was miles off...from our better players.
The only change that would possibly have made a bit of difference was if we'd had DeKoning starting earlier.
Our maligned small forwards were ineffectual because the ball didn't get down there until just before half-time
Binns, Lord and Moir were in the games against West Coast (where we just fell over the line) and St Kilda (where we just didn't)
So how can it possibly be argued they'd have made a difference in a finals match against Brisbane in Brisbane.
They would probably have struggled to match their efforts of the preceeding weeks and we'd have been criticised for throwing them to the wolves.
The argument was.... we had a few returning experienced players who we could mix them in with,
A mix of youth and experienced returning players....as long as they're all fit, was the best selection according to popular theory.
Who?
The two returnees who had most impact were McKay (9 touches) and DeKoning (deemed "not guaranteed to play an entire game".)
We got seduced and excited about a few kids.
It was good experience for them to play the last couple of games
They look like being solid players.
A bit of finals experience may have been good, but that would be the reason to pick them....not because they were ever going to make a difference.
We lost it because the injuries left too many of our players short of a gallop.
And our pressure was miles off our best.
Curnow - Champion, best forward in the AFLAll in Voss's best, only Cincotta was availably this week and wasnt played. That one I dont understand.
Owies - Best small forward
Boyd - Was our designated kicker earlier this year.
Fogarty - Pressure
Cincotta - Pressure
The cue was in the rack in the 2nd half, lets be honest about it. Even Fagan said, we were nover going to win that game.Yes Fagan would say that, the reality is when we started the run of 11 goals, his team (as usual) started to panic and made mistakes. They are mentally weak and will not progress passed next week. Another fail for a very talented team.
Nathan Buckley has just slammed the tactic of playing E Hollands behind the ball early and leaving us one short down forward fuelling Zorko. Doesnt buy the injury excuse given the poor effort.Nafan can slam all he likes, he doesn't know the tactical reasoning for it, only the coaching team does. Again, things were done that seem/ed poor but there was logic behind them at the time, they didnt work.
The Kennedy sub fiasco, selecting unfit players etc....I like Voss the man but his tactics are questionable and he is in charge and ultimately responsible.
Like any big business when you do that though you have to wear the incoming and admit your mistakes. It's been a wasted year due to injury etc but to rock up in a elimination final and give nothing for half a game isn't going to be tolerated that's not injury etc that's players and coaches not up for the fight and it was down right embarrassing and revisiting the dark days.100%, the gamble was that if we won, the returning players had a game under their belt.
Agree, tactically not great either but thats also his assistants responsibility too and Id expect a couple of changes in that area.Ill say there were reasons why they did what they did which we aren't privy to. They took risks that didnt come off.
That GWS charcoal clash jumper is the best jumper in the league IMO.2nd best jumper, ours always has been the best jumper and always will be.
Yep fell into the team due to lack of numbers and didnt really earn it.Don't let facts get in the way of a good story EB.
Did show a bit though and the talent is there we just need to see some consistency..
Our lack of some real small forward talent stood out for me. Nowhere near enough real F50 pressure. Our present crop are low contributors in terms of ball winning and goal kicking imo. We need better urgently.I the other finals games had small fwds doing damage, ours were a liability.
Everyone predicted us to lose, no one predicted Port to get smashed.I thought we had a more than good chance to win, I didn't think Port would lose. I also thought the Bullies to smack Haw and Sydney to be the Giants (1 out of 4). I also didn't think it would take us 56min to score our first goal.
A few different blokes might have a different intensity, win or lose. At least they'd be fit enough to compete when the game was hot. Would not have been a 60-0 start.Hawthorn have had form, we have not.
There's a few on here who defended the team selection and still trying too. Hate to say it, it was a huge error. Hawthorn showed what youngsters can do in a final.