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Lily Of Laguna => Ladies Lounge => Topic started by: PaulP on August 03, 2018, 12:03:03 PM

Title: AFLW - General discussion thread
Post by: PaulP on August 03, 2018, 12:03:03 PM
Hi mods. Just wondering if we can have a general thread for discussing the women's comp, rather than just a Carlton specific one ?

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/pearce-angered-by-afl-s-gimmicky-tournament-treatment-of-aflw-20180803-p4zva9.html

An article from the lovely Daisy, she who can do no wrong.  :D
Title: Re: AFLW - General discussion thread
Post by: LP on August 03, 2018, 12:11:22 PM
I agree 100% with Daisy!

AFLW should have a far greater priority over the abortion called AFLX!

But can we expect a functional and credible AFLW when the AFL doesn't even have it? :o

I don't understand why the AFL would risk stitching up 50% of their supporter base, get the girls offside and the whole sport will suffer!

There may be reasons for Kate Jenkins departure, I can see some issues arising! ;)
Title: Re: AFLW - General discussion thread
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2018, 06:14:56 PM
Why the AFL NEEDS to have this in the mens off-season is something i don't understand.

That being said, there is a lot more to the off-season than just 8 weeks of footy leading up to the mens season.

Have some games in Nov-Dec and have a extended break over xmas/new years and come back in Jan-feb if you want.


Pretty sure the VFLW has restrictions on how many AFLW listed players can play in the side at any one time. So these 'elite AFLW athletes' are getting less games than the those running around in the VFLW...possibly only half as many games. How does that work?

The AFL had such a good start with this comp in its first year. It held relatively firm in its second year and was set for expansion in 2019 and 2020....yet it appears to have lost interest in it for some reason. As 6 weeks is just bollocks.
Title: Re: AFLW - General discussion thread
Post by: Blue Moon on August 03, 2018, 07:51:23 PM
Note to Gill, the world cup goes for years, it is the finals that goes for fout weeks.
Title: Re: AFLW - General discussion thread
Post by: DJC on August 03, 2018, 09:41:31 PM
One thing that seems obvious is that Gilís AFL responds to supporter backlash, as happened with trialling new rules fiasco.

If thereís enough outrage at the AFLís latest bizarre proposal, Gil will back down faster than you can say, ďAFLX is a gimmick!Ē
Title: Re: AFLW - General discussion thread
Post by: flyboy77 on August 04, 2018, 09:26:00 AM
Note to Gill, the world cup goes for years, it is the finals that goes for fout weeks.

Not the sharpest tool in the shed, is he?
Title: Re: AFLW - General discussion thread
Post by: crashlander on August 04, 2018, 10:54:40 AM
I don't see any good reason why the AFLW season cannot overlap with the AFL season, at least not in the long term. At the moment I can understand why it is run when it is. However, as Krud suggested, having the season start earlier in not impossible. Having it run into January is not a problem in itself, although some ground availability issues may arise. But making the AFLW a joke by having a truncated season doesn't help anyone.
Title: Re: AFLW - General discussion thread
Post by: kruddler on August 04, 2018, 11:32:29 AM
I don't see any good reason why the AFLW season cannot overlap with the AFL season, at least not in the long term. At the moment I can understand why it is run when it is. However, as Krud suggested, having the season start earlier in not impossible. Having it run into January is not a problem in itself, although some ground availability issues may arise. But making the AFLW a joke by having a truncated season doesn't help anyone.

Ground availability shouldn't be any more difficult than what it is currently.
My uderstanding is the current season runs in tandem with the cricket season as it is. So they can manage to find grounds to play on already, surely it can't be that much harder to find 1 extra ground per round than they do currently? (to cater for the extra 2 teams).

But yes, having it at the same time as the mens certainly does solve that problem, but probably creates another as it would clash with TV times and crowds which the mens would get priority on both counts.
Title: Re: AFLW - General discussion thread
Post by: BluePhantom on January 31, 2019, 07:41:33 PM
Just heard Daniel Harford talk on SEN, gee he's a very positive speaker.
He sounds like he is invested in the programme.
Hope all goes well for the girls this Sunday against that blue and white team.
Is Waite playing for them?
Title: Re: AFLW - General discussion thread
Post by: Baggers on February 02, 2019, 03:56:34 PM
Just heard Daniel Harford talk on SEN, gee he's a very positive speaker.
He sounds like he is invested in the programme.
Hope all goes well for the girls this Sunday against that blue and white team.
Is Waite playing for them?

He's a very positive, and smart, person. A quality acquisition for us. After the debacle of last year, and the coaching dog's breakfast, we were very fortunate to get Harf into the place, he's pulled it all together which is no mean feat considering some quality gals were all but gone.

It sure has reinvigorated my interest and I will be parked in front of the teev tomorrow for the season opener. Go Mighty BlueBagger Gals!! :)
Title: Re: AFLW - General discussion thread
Post by: LP on February 02, 2019, 04:27:55 PM
I think our and Norps season will start and end tomorrow, we are scheduled to play in 30įC at 1pm in Hobart amid heat, smoke and dust from the fires. (Fires are SW of Hobart with SW winds forecast)

Not as bad as the Dees and Dockers, they play tomorrow at 3pm in Casey when it's pegged to be 39įC.

It's a very very silly arrangement, the sort of conditions the mid-fielders might not recover from in a short season! :o
Title: Re: AFLW - General discussion thread
Post by: DJC on February 02, 2019, 10:56:14 PM
Two one point results from the first two games and whatís not to like about Collingwood losing by one point? 🙂

I thought that the Geelong-Collingwood game was the better spectacle and far more skilful footy was on display.  Perhaps the Crows and Bulldogs havenít kept pace with other teams.

Iím looking forward to seeing how Harfordís brand of footy goes against North, in trying conditions.
Title: Re: AFLW - General discussion thread
Post by: Lods on February 04, 2019, 09:53:18 AM
Folks
I've just moved a few posts from here that related to our match against North
Can we keep this thread for a general discussion of the Women's competition.

We'll have a match thread for Carlton games.
Title: Re: AFLW - General discussion thread
Post by: No1inParticular on February 04, 2019, 12:28:38 PM
Two one point results from the first two games and whatís not to like about Collingwood losing by one point? 🙂

 :(
Title: Re: AFLW - General discussion thread
Post by: DJC on February 04, 2019, 01:57:04 PM
:(

How things have changed in your life!
Title: Re: AFLW - General discussion thread
Post by: DJC on February 11, 2019, 03:11:44 PM
Itís early days but it seems that Conference A is a lot stronger than Conference B.  That could lead to a lopsided GF and one of the best teams missing out.

While the AFL canít be expected to predict team performances, the results so far show a major flaw with the conference system.  If the AFLW is to grow, the competition should have each team playing all of the other teams.
Title: Re: AFLW - General discussion thread
Post by: townsendcalling on February 11, 2019, 07:46:47 PM
I believe there is one fundamental fault with AFLW..... it was never allowed to grow organically.  Womenís basketball, cricket, soccer all developed, grew and consolidated out of the limelight and only came to the forefront when it was earnt. After that we gradually took notice and genuine stars of the competition received the correct accolades. The Lauren Jacksonís, Meg Lannings and Sam Kerrís are the real deal. AFLW was thrown into prime time and all over the front pages from Day 1 and we were sold the talents of Mo Hope, Sarah Perkins, even our own Darcy Vescio way before it was justified. In terms of Hope and Perkins, they are 1000000 miles away!! Year 3 and the standard is way better and the skills are continually improving....   but itís still got a long long way to go. Compared to other womenís sports, itís a recreation sport. Like our men, the women canít represent Australia in the sport, itís a very short season and the pay is proportional to both length of season and revenue earned. 

Letís be careful who we crown as superstars and hold off any firm
opinions for 5 or 6 years. (around about the time the boys have no 18 in the trophy cabinet!!)
Title: Re: AFLW - General discussion thread
Post by: Professer E on February 11, 2019, 08:23:14 PM
I am not a supporter of the AFLW... Not because of the standard etc,  but simply because I am committed elsewhere. I find that I have total commitment to the Carlton Men's AFL,  my old metro club,  the Oz cricket team and my kids cricket teams.... I don't have the emotional energy, time or finances to take on another sport. It's a crowded sporting landscape,  good luck to the sport but I reckon for every new devotee they are probably stealing a followerer from another sport.
Title: Re: AFLW - General discussion thread
Post by: DJC on February 11, 2019, 10:43:13 PM
I am not a supporter of the AFLW... Not because of the standard etc,  but simply because I am committed elsewhere. I find that I have total commitment to the Carlton Men's AFL,  my old metro club,  the Oz cricket team and my kids cricket teams.... I don't have the emotional energy, time or finances to take on another sport. It's a crowded sporting landscape,  good luck to the sport but I reckon for every new devotee they are probably stealing a followerer from another sport.

I reckon they are attracting lots of women/girls who weren't following any sport.

And you do have your hands full  :)
Title: Re: AFLW - General discussion thread
Post by: LP on February 17, 2019, 10:13:43 AM
Felling sorry for Chiocci, the Collingwood girls are fair dinkum, but their club has only recently started to take them seriously for the first few years the AFLW and netball was only a marketing gig at Collingwood.

I'm very cynical about appointments like Graeme Allen, which was really just using the AFLW as a back door into Allen acting as a recruiter. Now the filthy Norps have him there on the low down, for a club that was dead-set broke where is Norp's money coming from and how are they attracting the top dollar recruits?

It'll be interesting to see how the AFLW deal with Harris' bump compared to the Emma Kearney sledging and vilifying players in a very unsavoury manner. If an AFL player let rip with sledges like that they'd be in hot water to say the least!