Zed, it all comes down to whether the player with the ball had a prior opportunity. If not, then no free kick is paid if he makes a genuine attempt to dispose of it legally.
With the Waite/Rance one, the umpire's comment that he made an attempt means the umpire thought Rance had no prior opportunity. Umpires can't be expected to deliver full reasons in the manner of judges. They use key words. That said, I reckon the umpire got that one wrong. Rance tried to break the tackle when he was held by the wrist and took a couple of steps instead of immediately kicking. But it was debatable.
I understand what you're saying Mav. I believe I have a fair understanding of the rule and the interpretation. All three HTB calls I mentioned had prior opportunity & failed to dispose of it. As you say, Rance had ample time to dispose of it correctly but dropped it. Gone! Tuck had taken at least 4-5 running paces and was looking to the middle of the ground when he was run down by Waite and dropped it. Gone! Crazy-eye Maric actually tried to fend off Murphy and was then wrapped up and eventually dropped it. Gone!
Consistency is all I want. Yeah I know... "tell him he's dreaming"
Watched the replay again (is 4 times too many?) . Can anyone explain the following examples of blatant biased umpiring? * Waite gets Rance dead to rights - textbook dropping/holding the ball = no free (umpires explanation was that Rance had "attempted" to kick it. Awesome, next time we kick a point will he pay it a goal because we "attempted" to kick one??) *Seconds later, Waite gets Tuck in a tackle who drops the ball = no free * Waite walking to his mark to kick for goal, Riewoldt bumps into him = no 50 (even Dimma thought it was 50 coz the replay shows him slap his hands in disgust). * Murphy gets free kick in the middle, Tiges player looks at the ump and then passes the ball to his teammate 5 metres away instead of straight back to Murphy. Even the commentators call it a 50m penalty = no 50. * 4th qtr, Murphy lays an awesome tackle on Big Ivan (thought some said Murphy can't and won't tackle??). Stops him dead, traps the arms, spins him around almost full circle and Ivan eventually just drops the ball. Yet another text-book dropping/holding the ball = no free kick
Seriously, the non-calls were just as bad as the ticky-touchwood ones they paid the other way.
Should also be noted that the 50m penalty and Edwards "hand-holding" free 1AW was pinged for were both ridiculous. If they're deemed legit and in the spirit of the game then there would be 200 free kicks every game.
Why has it taken MM so long to play Bell ? Needs to play more often than not. I'm all for the occasional spell but he's one who has a tonne of improvement in him. He's a keeper and thou he's slow of mind at present, his body work in tough games is crucial to our chances.
Can't remember if he played Seniors early in the year but I seem to recall he broke his jaw in a VFL game mid-season... set him back a bit. I think we need to persevere with him. Just a lad and loves the tough stuff. Makings of a good tough footballer. Not everyone has to be another Kouta or Judd (gee wouldn't that be something).
That's a fair assessment Goat. Our blokes' hitouts created plenty of opportunities for our midfielders and I guess that was a key factor in the outcome. However, they both need to do more around the ground; a few contested marks, or even uncontested marks, would be nice. Of course, Mumford and Pyke don't normally rack up possessions.
Our blokes were world beaters compared to Mumford. I believe he amassed a total of 3 handballs before he was subbed out in the 3rd quarter. Pyke had an impact around the ground and took some strong grabs... didn't notice his tap work tho.
Not sure we have had a sweeter moment in recent years than Garlett intercepting the ball in the last qtr, hurdling the Richmond player and then being in the clear... pretty sure every Carlton supporter was up on their feet as soon as he got the ball, and he still had about 60 m to run. I had to sit down before he kicked it as i was about to pass out.
Not as Lucky as you guys to be there, but I thought we were home but though 1 more would seal it, just to be safe. From the Lounge room, I saw the pressure of the guys clsoe down Richmond players, Jeffy Pick the Pocket, afterburners and go...The Camera panned up, and I just saw clear space and I was off...out the front door, lap around the garden, high fiving my son.... didn't even see him kick it. Not a huge fan of show boatting, but the slight show fo the ball to the Richmond bloke just before he launched it was awesome...
LOL you two. I was working and missed the 2nd half but watched it back late last night. When Jeffy did his hurdle and 100m sprint for the sealer, in my euporia I jumped on the couch (Tom Cruise style) and did a celebration dance that fell somewhere between an Irish jig and a seizure At 1am on a Monday morning I'm glad no-one else saw it though the dog looked more than a little bit concerned.
Gee I wish I could see KB's face this morning. I'm in Tassie so I can't even tune in to hear him getting reamed... ah well, bask in the glow all you Vic blueboys!
Finally, I said on Saturday night that I agreed with Eddie Maguire. I thought it was disgraceful that Carlton would have to play in Sydney and then Perth, before we play Hawthorn in the Grand Final.
Yep, Stand by Hird. Of course this means you'll miss the game as he'll be off somewhere licking his wounds (or does he have someone to do that for him too?) while the Blues play his team's elimination final
Thanks Jimmy. I can't understand why everyone says such nasty things about him
If Kreuzer can't play ruck, absolutely. Kreuzer has zero chance of taking a contested mark, never has and never will.
Gee... bit harsh Carrotto. I agree he didn't get enough of it on Saturday but surely that big mark in the the Port game would be classed as contested??? So there's one
. Can anyone explain the following examples of blatant biased umpiring?
At 1am on a Monday morning I'm glad no-one else saw it though the dog looked more than a little bit concerned. 
Gee... bit harsh Carrotto. I agree he didn't get enough of it on Saturday but surely that big mark in the the Port game would be classed as contested??? So there's one 