I agree about the decision making in hindsight, but we have to put the cost in relative perspective of how, when and why we recruited a Daisy type player.
At the time one of the biggest gripes people had about our list was on field leadership and introverted personalities. We had way to many introverts which allowed our team to be bullied on field. Communication was seen as another weakness, I think it was either Jonathon Brown or Cameron Ling who commented that playing against Carlton was like playing against Church mice, they made no sounds out there on the ground.
Daisy was certainly an extrovert, and a very loud on field communicator, which stood out immediately on his arrival. In that respect if we look at a realistic wage figure for him it seems not such a bad gamble at the time, especially given alleged reports coming from medical staff back then were that he should be able to make a full recovery.
That's all well and good but remember that Collingwood was concerned about Daisy's party boy behaviour and its detrimental impact on leadership. The idea that he was recruited to address a leadership deficiency is speculative if not fanciful. His alleged on field leadership is a moot point if he can't get on the field.
I suspect that the favourable fitness reports are after the fact and an attempt to justify Daisy's recruitment and over payment. I'm more inclined to accept that Phil Baressi resigned because his advice was ignored.
Ours 22 looks very close to the mark IMO. We should be in with a real show on Thurs. if we can keep the mistakes in check and deliver the ball well into F50.
B: Sam Rowe, Michael Jamison, Zach Tuohy HB: Sam Docherty, Jacob Weitering, Kade Simpson C: Ed Curnow, Bryce Gibbs, Blaine Boekhorst HF: Andrejs Everitt, Simon White, Nick Graham F: Andrew Walker, Levi Casboult, Sam Kerridge Foll: Matthew Kreuzer, Patrick Cripps, Marc Murphy Int: Andrew Phillips, Dylan Buckley, Dale Thomas, Matthew Wright
We're in trouble if White is played as CHF. Third tall or lead up forward perhaps but not CHF. We really have to hope that Jaksch steps up or McKay and/or Curnow develop quickly.
Your taken the media bait again DJC, who with any authority said he gets $700K, where was that amount first reported?
When he first signed it was touted as a contract worth "up to $2.5M", I am assuming the "up to" part includes the option year.
At the time that was said to have put Daisy's wage in-line with Murphy's who was reported as being on about $550K when he re-signed.
Now with every toe stubbing kick the media keep pumping up Daisy's value, in what appears to be either a case of severe one-upmanship or out of desperation to pull a headline. If he fluffs a handball he could be the newest AFL millionaire before seasons end! Just a week ago Malph Ralph reported he was on at least $3.5M for the same deal, and "as much as $750K" was reported. So according to the media we have to accept that he is paid 50% more than our captain, or twice what Kreuzer is paid and double what we allegedly refused to pay Betts. It's bogus reporting!
It's designed to tug at your Carlton heart strings and collect ratings and web hits, and you've bitten!
I reckon Robert Walls has a pretty good handle on how much Thomas is being paid and I accept his assertion that Thomas is our highest paid player on at least $700K.
Even if he was on $450K for four years with an option for a fifth year, it would still rate as on of our worst list management decisions.
Does anyone really think that adding Daisy to our list, paying him around $700,000 per season and giving him a four year contract with an option for a fifth year was a good decision?
Spin it any way you like but it really was one of the two most inexplicable decisions our club has made in the last decade.
I was hoping to see a rejuvenated Daisy this season - and I don't doubt his efforts - but I'm afraid his body just isn't capable of performing at AFL level.
More importantly, Deledio looks like missing the first two games!
It's interesting to read the Richmond statement on Yarran's situation. They say that he had worked hard over the break and was in prime condition before the calf injury.
Yeah in the past I would have cringed at this sort of stuff but loved every second of it.
Got the tingles as well and usually only watching Fraser Brown's tackle in the 99 prelim does that to me.
When Bolts said "defining draft boys" in the tassie camp that really got me going. As he knows from being at Hawthorn every era needs "a" draft where they hit the jackpot. And if the stars align with this group then we are rocketing up the ladder.
Seeing and hearing Bolton and Weitering has filled me with so much belief. Alas when Murph and Simmo got up still got the sense that Murph couldn't command the room and was slightly edgy. Won't be the case when Weitering becomes captain one day.
The critical factor is that Murph and Simmo have the overwhelming support of the players, coaches and board. That tells me that external doubts about their leadership are unfounded.
It's like us saying we were glad Betts was leaving at the time, hardly a convincing argument after the fact and such statements usually arise out of bitterness.
"Daisy was the face of Collingwood" for much of his time over there, he was their poster boy despite his run of injuries. The day after he left he was all but accused of being the munitions supplier to Alan Didak and Christopher Wayne Hudson!
Your assertion must be true, because Collingwood fans are never bitter at all!
It was before the fact; they were gloating in the lead up and rapturous when it happened
My bad, it was Jon Ralph writing the article not Jon Anderson.
Easy to claim due diligence in hindsight, hard to see how people establishing player values after the fact would translate the knowledge they gained into a prediction. Any such statements are really rubbish unless they can travel time.
Cannot take much notice of Collingwood's statements, they are all after the fact and they have a vested interest in bashing Carlton, but at the time they were ultra-bitter about Daisy's departure.
No, they wanted him gone. My outlaws have Collingwood connections and they were rapt with him going and us paying overs
In fairness to many posters on here, they are just believing what Anderson wrote, that was their first mistake!
Who is Anderson?
It doesn't really matter whether Daisy is on $600,000 or $750,000 per season. Reasonable due diligence would have revealed that $500,000 was more than enough and, more importantly, he would never get close to his best form.
Interestingly, his lack of leadership is revealed as one of the reasons Collingwood was keen to move him on.
It really was a poor, indeed inexplicable decision.
I've looked at it virtually frame by frame, the gap between Daisy's upper arm and Laidler's chin never completely closes but I admit the frame rate is low. There is no apparent motion in Laidler's jaw that indicates contact, it even appears that his mouth opens as he throws his head back. The closest he got was Laidler's collarbone and throat.
But it's all academic now as we accepted the penalty.
Perhaps the MRP and Carlton should have examined the footage
I saw Daisy elbow Laidler in the jaw at the game, on the big screen, on the replay, in the news coverage and just watched the same footage again in the Blues News segment - and no, it wasn't new footage as you intimated, just the same two camera angles that we've all seen ad nauseum.
Had your eyes checked lately?
Believe me, if there was the slightest chance that Thomas missed Laidler's chin and struck him in the chest, I'd be jumping up and down with everybody else. He did it and he copped a week. Move on!
Wishful thinking guys; the elbow clocks Laidler just below the point of the jaw and a blow like that is almost guaranteed to sit the victim on his butt.
We'd have had biomechanical experts all over it if there was the slightest chance that Thomas didn't hit Laidler's jaw.
Without knowing the intricate details I put Bolton in a different category to the others. Bolton was the 2IC, the Lieutenant, the others were foot-soldiers who busied themselves learning from the General.
That's overstating Bolton's role LP. He was coach of Box Hill Hawks, then forward line coach. The only difference is that he stood in for Clarkson when he was ill.
Just a week ago Malph Ralph reported he was on at least $3.5M for the same deal, and "as much as $750K" was reported. So according to the media we have to accept that he is paid 50% more than our captain, or twice what Kreuzer is paid and double what we allegedly refused to pay Betts. It's bogus reporting! 
