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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Sydney at Etihad
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Isnt a wingman considered a midfielder?

I think the terminology and nomenclature for field positions in AFL isn't as precise as it could be.

If you use the diagram from Wikipedia :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_rules_football_positions

I would say the real inside mids are only the centre, rover and ruck rover. Basically the first receivers, which is not suited to Murph IMO.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Sydney at Etihad
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Our midfielders don't kick goals.

Dangerfield 21
Swan 21
Pendlebury 15
S Hill 17
Fyfe 17
Barlow 16
Motlop 26
I Smith 23
Hodge 21
B Hill 16
B Harvey 24
R Gray 25
Deledio 27
Martin 24
Grigg lol 16
L Parker 18
Heeney 16
Kennedy (Syd) 15
Hannebery 15
Shuey 24
Bontempelli 17
Dahlhaus 17
Wallis 15

M Murphy 7
P. Cripps 6
Gibbs 4 (10 games)
Carrazzo 1
Curnow 0

I'm safely assuming those are 2015 stats ?

Just as an example, Murph kicked 22 in 2011.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Sydney at Etihad
Quote from: cookie2 – on
Is the problem of poor performance in the F50 one of our mids being incapable of good delivery or one of our forwards not creating anything to deliver it to, or being incapable of doing much if it is delivered to them, or a combination of all these things (plus more!)? I'll be very interested to see if we try anything different v. the Swans.

It's a team sport, so it's definitely both. Also I believe another big issue is between the ears - Walks last year said that he couldn't really account for the match day performances, because at training, everything falls into place and works beautifully. But clearly not in matches.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Sydney at Etihad
Getting the ball into our F50 and kicking straight once it's in there are of course two separate issues.

One obvious way of minimizing turnovers is simply to pass less and run and carry more. Have speedsters off the HB line and around the stoppages, and bounce/run/carry the ball into the F50, linking with other players via short ball movements like hand passing. Run the opposition off their feet and don't give them a chance to get the pill. Essentially what Ratts was doing.

Of course, like any strategy, it has pluses and minuses, and whether we have the list to do this is open to question. But given our turnovers are major coach, player and fan killers, it's worth a look.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb
Quote from: ItsOurTime – on
Results orientation vs mastery orientation. The system is designed to eventually bring you down, you need to deal with the fact you won't win all the time. If you're playing off the thin foundation of expecting to win then when it finally catches up with you - you spend 20 years without a flag and 4 spoons to your name.

We're coming from a long way back and with some culture issues to address. No need to crap the bed before we've laid down.

I don't really understand the point you're making. It does sound interesting though.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
I dont know about this. The impatient ones at PP will get the knives out quicker than you can say "reset".

True, but the impatient and the ill informed (inside the club) are the ones that cause half the problems. Hopefully the Judge has these guys and gals under control.

I'd be very surprised if any serious scribe or football analyst tips us for a win.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb
Clearly, the Tiges have much more riding on this game than us. A must win game for them. First week finals exit for 3 consecutive seasons, Dimmer's final year of contract.........

This, plus a more established, settled and experienced side, should see them home.

A loss for them would be unthinkable.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb
Quote from: blue4life – on
To be honest I've never doubted our commitment over the last decade or more, in my opinion our lack of success has come down to a lack of playing personnel and I don't see that turning around any time soon.
When you're getting well beaten on a regular basis it often looks as though you've given up, and subconsciously that may even be true to some extent, but even last season I saw players like Docherty, Tuohy, Simpson, Murphy, Buckley, Curnow, Bell, Rowe and plenty of others busting their gut to the final bell when we were 8 or 10 goals down and all hope was lost.
One of the biggest problems that poor sides face on a regular basis is that they hit troughs during games and yesterday was no exception, at one stage Essendon kicked 9 unanswered goals.
If this was out of character or some sort of aberration it wouldn't faze me, but it's been an ongoing theme at Carlton now for longer than I care to remember.

You get institutionalized whether you are in a losing or a winning culture - subconsciously you expect one or the other, depending on what you've mostly experienced. This will be another big challenge for Bolts and co.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb
Bolton's only been here 5 minutes. He needs to be able to see all his charges under something vaguely resembling match conditions. It becomes harder and far more risky to select a depleted side during the H/A season.

Nobody wants a losing culture, but I think he's going about it the right way, at the right time.