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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Parenting & Discipline
Should there be a therapy thread?

Big difference between therapy and empathy. Not surprised you don't get what is going on here.
I don't get whats going on here - I wasn't a subject to domestic violence. And I am not sure many people (aside from you) could empathise with domestic violence - because thats what Gozzas stating.

In light of that background, Gozza arguably has issues that all the empathy in the world couldn't resolve. I reiterate my original post. He should see someone. I believe the government offers a number of mental health sessions for free or at a subsidised rate. Simply telling him on a forum to 'change' does sweet FA really. If you want to help, offer a solution.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Stick Your Neck Out
I think we'll finish 11th and Daisy will do his ankle. Judd to announce retirement at R16 in a desperate attempt to push us onwards and upwards to a finals berth.
Waite to play 11 games.
One of Bell Cripps or Cachia to push Carrazzo out of the team.
Docherty to be AA initial squad
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Best 22 for 2014
@FB
Yes Curnow did seem to be on the improve last year and let's hope he goes on with it this year. Could become a very handy player for us if he can.

Fourth in the B&F Cookie!  The Match Committee obviously appreciated his work and I think he'll be a lock in in our best 22 this season.

A little more depth means more competition for spots and that should keep players on their toes.  It should also mean better managed workloads for our older players and the youngsters.  Perhaps even selecting players for specific roles to negate or exploit opposition players.
Called him AA prior to when he did his shoulder vs the Saints in 2012.
The stats from summer 2012/13 showed that when he was in the side, Judd played well. Says it all.
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The Sports Desk / Re: Soccer fans' behaviour
What do we define as and alcoholic? Once a week? Twice a week? Several times a week?

Anyone with alcohol 'issues', has an alcohol problem. Frequency is not a factor, behaviour is.

So therefore I don't have a problem because Iddon't go out and whack people....I'm actually quite jovial.  :D

True but it drains you of your ambition does it not? Prevents you from finding work or a career path to take? So in a way, your alcoholism doesn't seem to affect others around you which is a good thing but it certainly affects you.
But it does affect others around him, because they have to support him if he is unable to study or work or when he needs a new liver and is in hospital. Eventually, the rest have to pay.
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The Sports Desk / Re: Soccer fans' behaviour
Mantis, don't worry I didn't think you were having a go :)
But I agree with what Chris has said below.

And, well, what I got out of the study is that if you take alcohol out of the picture (at certain times of night) then the violence will be less.
Of course, as you have rightly said, there will always be violence, but if we can lessen that violence through the prohibition of alcohol at certain times, then let's do it.
Tex. I love ya to bits. Please understand that drinking might not be the only key issue here. Sure violence is more common with the consumption with alcohol. However those that are naturally mean and angry, and with issues do not need alcohol to tip them off to be nasty aggressive people. In fact to take all alcohol off the shelves would only push them to take exotic drugs as your study shows. I understand your studies. I understand the figures. Do we blame every action on what people have taken ? Alcohol doesn't make a mild mannered citizen a violent killer. Its their basic nature that does.

I understand that each person is different but.....the alcoholics that I know are tremendous people with hearts of gold.....until they get drunk. Then they're not themselves, they turn violent and aggressive. Without alcohol they are upstanding people.

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The Sports Desk / Re: Soccer fans' behaviour
Your correct Tex. You don't need alcohol in Australia to have a good time.

I have a different philosophy and a very simple rule to live by: if you can't handle your grog, stay away from it. Simple.  :)
 
Too many d1ckbrains getting on the piss who can't handle it.

Very, very good point, and don't go out in public if you know you get angry easily. In fact don't trust your own judgement. Ask your friend if you are a flog or not. If he says you can behave like a prick at times, stay home and watch your sports on the TV. Either this or book yourself in for anger management classes.
But this is silly, it does not happen.
You're asking a 19-29 yo male to enrol himself in anger management classes.
You might as well de-ball him while you're at it.

Alco-pops tax was nice in theory - but seemed to have backfired in that twelvies now buy their own spirits and mix it (incorrectly) getting even more hammered than what they were before.

What about 10 dollar cask wine?  ;D
Christ, people only need try that once to never do it again.


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I think its a culture thing... Probably take another couple of generations to change. Other countries - like Germany - can drink a lot, but don't put up with such idiotic behaviour like we do. Personally, I think it will - with appropriate education in the community - go the way of smoking, and people will be socially ostracised when they become drunken idiots.
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The Sports Desk / Re: Soccer fans' behaviour
And people will come in suggesting that harsher penalties are necessary and judges are soft blah blah blah.

I think, what needs to be considered, is if you send someone to jail for knocking someone out when they're drunk then;
-you're placing - usually quite (soberly) decent people in an environment where they may be further corrupted and may come out worse than before
- you're placing a huge economic burden on the state
- you're not addressing the problem - an addiction to, or inability to handle alcohol. Drunk people won't think "Oh I went to jail over this last year, I better not knock him out this time."

Jail is not an option for these guys.
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The Sports Desk / Re: Soccer fans' behaviour
Your correct Tex. You don't need alcohol in Australia to have a good time.

I have a different philosophy and a very simple rule to live by: if you can't handle your grog, stay away from it. Simple.  :)
 
Too many d1ckbrains getting on the piss who can't handle it.

Very, very good point, and don't go out in public if you know you get angry easily. In fact don't trust your own judgement. Ask your friend if you are a flog or not. If he says you can behave like a prick at times, stay home and watch your sports on the TV. Either this or book yourself in for anger management classes.
But this is silly, it does not happen.
You're asking a 19-29 yo male to enrol himself in anger management classes.
You might as well de-ball him while you're at it.

Alco-pops tax was nice in theory - but seemed to have backfired in that twelvies now buy their own spirits and mix it (incorrectly) getting even more hammered than what they were before.
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The Sports Desk / Re: Soccer fans' behaviour
Your correct Tex. You don't need alcohol in Australia to have a good time.

I have a different philosophy and a very simple rule to live by: if you can't handle your grog, stay away from it. Simple.  :)
 
Too many d1ckbrains getting on the piss who can't handle it.
Thats the issue though, isn't it? People don't know when the stop - they are not capable of knowing when they can, or cannot handle it.
I think we all speak from experience there. So, what I suggested in the last post was some external force being placed upon people to curb the violence...curb the point at which people become so far gone (which the study suggests is post 3am iirc)
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The Sports Desk / Re: Soccer fans' behaviour
I'm not sure whether alcohol was involved in these fans behaviour, but I think thats where the (broader) problem lies, in regards to violence (in particular between young men)

There was a recent program done in Newcastle which may go some way in addressing the problem, I'll leave it for you to decide. I refer you here: http://www.bocsar.nsw.gov.au/agdbasev7wr/bocsar/documents/pdf/cjb137.pdf 
Some important points include:
-There were corresponding increases in the proportion of assaults recorded earlier in the night but, with the exception of CAD data, these did not wholly offset the reduction occurring between 3am and 6am. This is an important point to note because one argument against restrictions in hotel trading hours is that assaults will simply be temporally displaced toward earlier times in the evening. The current study provides strong evidence against such a conclusion.

-There was no significant increase or decrease in recorded assaults in Hamilton or in the premises that were not subject to the intervention, which suggests that there was no evidence of any displacement
to the other late-night entertainment
areas in Newcastle.


The cost of alcohol and violence is becoming a cost that society can no longer bear, on an economic basis alone, let alone the real life impacts on families, friends, communities.

We live in one of the most amazing countries in the world. People don't need alcohol in Australia to have a good time. Be thankful for it.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Best 22 for 2014
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Tom Bell arrived back at training as if he was preparing for the Hawaiian ironman. Has shed kilos from his massive frame and has been flying in the time-trials. Received a rookie elevation and maybe the beast is about to unleash.

Hope this is the 'kiss of death' for the bloke.
Don't you rate him? Why?

Think he's tracking nicely. Kicked that winning goal vs PA. Got some heart, thats sorely been missing in recent years. Not our worst by a long way.