Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: Micky0 – on June 21, 2026, 01:00:27 pm

Regardless of why you cannot say that changing the coach has not worked - i am Team Voss but there was obviously something there which meant the foundations if laid, could not be built upon.

It has worked, but not IMO, for the reasons given. I suspect it's more in the psychological space. Pressure's off, the media is off our case, Elijah and 2nd half lapses are distant memories. Everyone is having fun and enjoying the caretaker head space. Fraser is definitely pulling the right levers IMO, and he certainly deserves full credit for that.

Thry - I understand tax deductible donations.  Your original premise was about:
 - the motivation behind donations and your cynical take
 - and then how easy it is to give away money when you're wealthy

That is what I have responded to.

Quote from: Thryleon – on June 16, 2026, 10:20:03 pm

Not you, shawny and dodge.

Solely on that original donation mentioned there's no benefit.

Add in some tax deductions for travel, costs of living like hotels, airfares, car expenses, educational stuff for "research", other income tax breaks such as paying yourself via a contracted company based in the cayman Islands and then he tips into charity to help and comes out with the deals you mention all to look like a philanthropist.

Thats not to condemn him.  Good on him, probably costs him nothing and gives him the exact perks and public reputation, but its not that long ago that Lewis Hamilton had a very different reputation in the world.

Perhaps time and age have humbled him.  Declaring an outright position here is fraught with danger.  He might be an A1 bloke, or he could be a real tosser.  You wouldnt know for sure. 

Good luck to him and all that support him. 

Thryleon what are you on about! 

My comments were in reply to Kruddler post saying if your going to lose money to the government via tax he might as well give it to a charity. I explained that paying to a charity instead of paying the is not equal so implying it is was incorrect 

None of my posts discussed anything more but to clarify there is a vast difference.

While im not a big fan of LH his charity work and/or his reasoning why I never commented on - that was all the spin Kruddler added to not admit his first post was incorrect.

Anyhow thats it from me on the matter, I can see i wont convince him so wasting my time.

 

Quote from: Thryleon – on June 16, 2026, 08:16:53 pm

You guys are making an assumption that this donation is the only tax minimisation strategy.

No.
Which is why i wasnt implying what shawny said i was implying.

There are a million and 1 ways to benefit from things, shawny assumed there was 1.

I listed a couple, but its just the tip of the iceberg.
Kickbacks are another.

I donate to you, you get my fashion label some shelf space in paris and milan.

I donate to you, you give me some inside info on stock tips.

.....get me a good real estate deal.

Rich helping the rich.

How would NFPs that don't have DGR1 status survive in Australia if that was the case?

Don't have a view on Gates Foundation, except to say that generally, it is very hard to donate money properly and effectively if you have lot to give away.  Also the rules in US are different to ours...

Of course there are strategies to best manage donations, particularly from windfall events - which not only benefit to donor, but the NFPs as well as there becomes more to give away.

Sorry - won't hijack the thread any further.

No it doesn't, Thry.

Quote from: shawny – on June 15, 2026, 09:27:55 am

Don't like Hamiliton but no doubt in the right car he is still one of the best.

Saw a clip of him in an interview talking about how there shouldn't be any large gaps of wealth and how there shouldn't be billionaires and how many should be shared around.  Noble ideal Lewis but the hypocrisy of it all is Lewis was wearing Paket Phillipe watch with 1.5M. His new GF is worth over 1.5B and he is worth a lazy 500M.
 
Have to love the likes of these elites making statements completely at odds with their very life.   

Agree but he does give a lot to charities and foundations. He's wealthy by he is a good good egg.

I have little interest in soccer outside of 2 things....

1. My son plays soccer, so i watch that every week.
2. The world cup.

Only today did i learn that there are 48 teams this year, thats how much of an eye i've been keeping on it.

Can anyone share how that came about?

Reeks of someone like Trump wanting bragging rights of 'the biggest' or 'the best'.

Quote from: kruddler – on June 11, 2026, 04:00:00 pm

Like Brodie Grundy?

FYI, Pitto gives away 1.7 free kicks a game.
Grundy gives away 2.9 free kicks a game.

Maybe he doesn't know the rules either?

Witts gives away 1.9 free kicks a game.
McAndrew gives away 1.8 free kicks a game
Luke Jackson gives away 1.7 free kicks a game.
TDK gives away 2.0 free kicks a game.

Perhaps its the rules that are the problem.

would love to know how many of those are centre square frees (for both pitto and the others).   maybe its just because we watch him all the time,  but pitto does seem to give away a lot of those

i support pitto, but he isnt as dynamic as some of the other rucks in the comp (although he started the year kicking goals),  and if he isnt giving is first use in the middle (including giving away frees),  then he becomes even less useful