No Gov, no three rucks and TDK will get his name on the locker. I suspect that he'll look back on that with more pride than the next stage in his footy career.
Not sure I would have given TDK the opportunity to have his name on the locker, the club are very generous. Dylan Shiel playing his last game for the Bombers after being told DCM.
The chain of possessions in that resulted in Zac's goal was like watching a glimpse of '23 all over again.... Sort of exemplified the day with players continually running past, shorter but pinpoint kicks, and not blazing away but finding a team mate in a better position. But my question is "where has this been all year?", they even got a standing ovation from the Carltonian section at half time.
a lot of stuff (handballs, knock ons, short chip kicks etc) out the front of the pack or to a guy running past. whereas, this year has been a lot of handballing to blokes standing still, or backwards. makes a big difference
He's already had the hip surgery. He's still fighting on but only he knows how he's feeling. Turning 29 soon, and may have peaked.
Can we do a Matty Hogg/Adrain Whitehead and turn him into a back pocket? Got a few attacking back pocket/flankers, but no-one to actually sit on a dangerous small fwd
Cripps was smashed ... by the umpires! If only he got a smidgeon of the care that the umpires show towards Rowell. Cripps got one free and was penalised three times. Rowell got five frees and was penalised twice. Both laid eight tackles and copped much the same treatment without the ball. If Rowell's five frees were there, Crippa should have got eight.
The 50m penalty was an absolute joke - no wonder Cripps looked puzzled and frustrated.
yeah cripps was tackled off the ball in that one, but I think what was paid was a late tackle on the suns player after getting kicked it forward.
and then, about 5mins later, we get a free for a late hit, a clear downfield (about 30 out in front) - but, no, bring it back, no downfield free...
Jack reiwolt on the fox after show giving Ben king props, which is fair enough. But lost me when he said that he kicked 6 on weeters. As he was saying it, the highlights were running, showing king taking half a dozen grabs over Lewis young. Do these guys, making half a million a year actually watch the matches they talk dribble about??
When we see the impact of just one or two players we've missed, it clearly shows how a little change can have a huge impact, Keep in mind when we change a player we aren't adding or subtracting a whole, it's the difference between the two that we are considering.
At AFL level that very small difference is amplified because teams are so well drilled to take the advantage when it presents.
This is why I tend to concur with @Thryleon and @PaulP that we are not as far away from a good outcome as the AFL Media and some fans tend to portray, we definitely do not need to "Sell the Farm!"
It has actually been amazing that pretty much all of our senior players have been comprimised - Walsh - no preseason and then ongoing issues - Charlie - no preseason - Harry - the mental health stuff, now the knee - Newy - out - Weiters - looks to be carrying somehting the last month - Crippa - doesnt look himself all year - major strapping on the shoulder
Only Cerra, Hewitt and DeKonning of our real topliners seem to be fit and firing
I know all teams get injuries, but these ones count for extra I would have thought. Would love to know what the season would look like if all of these blokes were fit
It's been that way for several seasons now, when the opposition batting fails to collapse like our own list we like to blame our bowlers.
Hayden's comments expose the folly, he was basically telling people the pitch was unplayable and blokes were sitting in the rooms in dread and tears. The pitch might well be a sh1t pitch for the WTC Final, but it's not horrendous, it's just not your typical Lord's pitch. Horrendous is when you go into a forward defence and get hit in the face, this pitch has done none of that sort of rubbish!
IPL has made these blokes soft and weak minded, if the pitch isn't a road they bitch and moan. They want runs delivered to them on a platter. They need to take some of Jeremy Clarkson's advice, the advice he gave to Kaleb Cooper when he returned to the farm from his theatre performance gig, how to get over a dose of "c@#t flu!"
Sometimes it is the bowlers at fault, but in general our bowling is good on average despite one or two highly variable performances from certain players.
Our best performed bowler in the UK in recent times isn't even in the squad.
Until the NSW Cricket Mafia lose control of CA nothing will change, they have there favourites and the deflect like hell to defend them.
Pitch is fine if you can bat , one of their blokes has made 100 and their captain is 67 not out, too many IPL champs but no one with any technique in English conditions. The IPL has stuffed test cricket and we have seen Bazball short format stuff adopted by most test nations and its created a breed of batsman that cant cope in bowler friendly conditions. The Batsman are not getting out through dangerous deliveries but from well executed pace bowling backed up by good fielding. Id be moving George Bailey on, has no idea imo and just keeps picking the mates club players regardless of form, opposition or conditions. Green should never have played and we need two specialist openers not makeshift players who are popular with teammates but havent made a score for a couple of years ie Marnus.
Apparently the Lords pitch has been playing the same way during the County season. They have improved the drainage at the ground, so the deck dries out really quickly now. So, to compensate that, they water it a heap leading up to Day1. Day 1 & 2 the ball moves a mile. Then it dries out for day 3 and 4 and is a road. Started seeing it late in the Aussies 2nd dig, and into the Saffas 2nd dig, the pitch definitely changed during the match
For mine, silvagni was our most important player on the night. Gave caddy an absolute bath. When he had 2 metre peter for company stitched him up too.
They ended with Gresham playing defensive forward on him and that was the move that made Nick Haynes the more prominent interceptor and that almost swung the match in their favour.
Caddy is a joke . Cheats loving media pumping him up. And that fraud that had 3 kicks, and 2 of them that were flukes off the ground,,being pumped up,by the commentators, can F off. Just wait for tmrws comms about the brave young 4cheats midfield that nearly won the game. Scott will start quoting number of games played etc. they will lose their next 4 and start talking about how young they are
Definition of a crap win…(and some of the comms said it)
Mots looked good, but was still “almost”, could’ve had half a dozen goals, almost
I can’t work doc out. At times looked so good in defence. Missing piece with newy out. But t other times looked fumbly and a liability
King was dominant at times, but then we got killed in the middle at times, which he must be blamed for
Walshy brilliant for 2 quarters, but zero for the other 2
Jsos now one of our most important players
We miss H. Yes HOK was great, but he had 5 contested marks and 5 touches. He will be great, but we need experienced H who can influence outside of a 1 on 1 grab
Fwd line looks better with Zac in it
Cinc so important
We will,win the next 2, but until we learn to keep that first q of footy going for 4qs, there is no point making finals
Looks like AFL 360 called us "The Lygon Street Butchers".
Talks about poor entry inside F50....showed 1 example of a miskick as proof we can't kick.
2 second analysis based on numbers, not game plan. Someone is always going to be 18th. Doesn't mean they can't kick.
you mean a footy show based a whole segment on 1 or 2 pieces of footage??? wow, thats never happenned before.
every time one of those blokes (lloyd especially) stands up in front of the screen, they show 1 or 2 pieces of footage and use it as proof of an absolute statement!!
most of these shows had melbourne dead and buried for the next few years, and then this week they are the next collingwood!!
last week walsh was back and his ball use was amazing, now he is our weak link and not in the top 30 mids in the comp.
way too much space to fill, with way too little to talk about, on the 53 different shows....
You know after thinking about what I watched on Sat and watching Terry's (Blue Abroad) review, something didn't look right with the players. The attitude doesnt seem quite there and I wonder what's the cause? Is the TDK move and potential senior player move causing angst? Is the E Hollands situation worse than what we know? Ollie in particular looked flat as a tack from when he ran out. Dunno, could be me just jumping to conclusions based purely on what I perceive (think I see) with no inside knowledge whatsoever.
Rumour I heard after the weekend was EH issue was relationship issues involving someone else’s partner from the club. This came from someone that’s around the club a lot but who knows. People say all sorts of stuff.
To me there doesn’t seem to be great camaraderie and why that is, only they know. I don’t sense they play for each other at all tho and yes they’re professional sportsmen and winning is the goal and they should be able to pocket any drama and just win. Winning does bring people together and I’m sure losing does the opposite.
Don’t know the answer but wouldn’t want to be Voss Lloyd or Austin at the moment as they will be feeling the pressure.
wooah - if true, that is huge. could explain a bit
Swans and GWS both have big injury lists. We have no excuses...
Yeah, we do struggle with adversity, and dont win those games with the big outs, like some other mobs do This is also the (what) 15th year in a row, that we have had poor "luck" with interrupted pre-seasons and injuries
But, to be glass half full - i know a lot of teams have 10 injuries, but look at the ones we have - JSOS - was proving to be one of our only great users of half back - Newy - ditto - Williams - our only potent goal kicking small forward - Cotters & Acres - our gut runners who provide a bit on the outside - Jager - some class and polish in the middle - Lij - can actually use it, going forward - Cincotta - would have been handy on Heeney last week and Greene this week - Charlie & Harry - both having interupted years - surely this is affecting them - Weeters - surely hurt this week - pretty self explanatory - Add to that Walsh (preseason) and Crippa (somehting not right) going at 90%, instead of 100%
They would all help a bit with our current weaknesses (and - I dont think Kennedy or Owies (or Stocker or Zac Fisher) would add that much to our current weaknesses - so, maybe the media can give that a rest)
Thing is they also had a team well below its full strength. No Gulden, McDonald, Adams, Mills, Papley. Plus next year it will be pit in and TDK out so better gets used to that one.
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Not an excuse - as we were terrible in the 2nd half. but i did hear this a bit over the weekend, re the Swans being injury hit
Pretty sure Adams & Mills played in the 2s and arent considered 1s players anymore for them.
