It's been that way for several seasons now, when the opposition batting fails to collapse like our own list we like to blame our bowlers.
Hayden's comments expose the folly, he was basically telling people the pitch was unplayable and blokes were sitting in the rooms in dread and tears. The pitch might well be a sh1t pitch for the WTC Final, but it's not horrendous, it's just not your typical Lord's pitch. Horrendous is when you go into a forward defence and get hit in the face, this pitch has done none of that sort of rubbish!
IPL has made these blokes soft and weak minded, if the pitch isn't a road they bitch and moan. They want runs delivered to them on a platter. They need to take some of Jeremy Clarkson's advice, the advice he gave to Kaleb Cooper when he returned to the farm from his theatre performance gig, how to get over a dose of "c@#t flu!"
Sometimes it is the bowlers at fault, but in general our bowling is good on average despite one or two highly variable performances from certain players.
Our best performed bowler in the UK in recent times isn't even in the squad.
Until the NSW Cricket Mafia lose control of CA nothing will change, they have there favourites and the deflect like hell to defend them.
Pitch is fine if you can bat , one of their blokes has made 100 and their captain is 67 not out, too many IPL champs but no one with any technique in English conditions. The IPL has stuffed test cricket and we have seen Bazball short format stuff adopted by most test nations and its created a breed of batsman that cant cope in bowler friendly conditions. The Batsman are not getting out through dangerous deliveries but from well executed pace bowling backed up by good fielding. Id be moving George Bailey on, has no idea imo and just keeps picking the mates club players regardless of form, opposition or conditions. Green should never have played and we need two specialist openers not makeshift players who are popular with teammates but havent made a score for a couple of years ie Marnus.
Apparently the Lords pitch has been playing the same way during the County season. They have improved the drainage at the ground, so the deck dries out really quickly now. So, to compensate that, they water it a heap leading up to Day1. Day 1 & 2 the ball moves a mile. Then it dries out for day 3 and 4 and is a road. Started seeing it late in the Aussies 2nd dig, and into the Saffas 2nd dig, the pitch definitely changed during the match
For mine, silvagni was our most important player on the night. Gave caddy an absolute bath. When he had 2 metre peter for company stitched him up too.
They ended with Gresham playing defensive forward on him and that was the move that made Nick Haynes the more prominent interceptor and that almost swung the match in their favour.
Caddy is a joke . Cheats loving media pumping him up. And that fraud that had 3 kicks, and 2 of them that were flukes off the ground,,being pumped up,by the commentators, can F off. Just wait for tmrws comms about the brave young 4cheats midfield that nearly won the game. Scott will start quoting number of games played etc. they will lose their next 4 and start talking about how young they are
Definition of a crap win…(and some of the comms said it)
Mots looked good, but was still “almost”, could’ve had half a dozen goals, almost
I can’t work doc out. At times looked so good in defence. Missing piece with newy out. But t other times looked fumbly and a liability
King was dominant at times, but then we got killed in the middle at times, which he must be blamed for
Walshy brilliant for 2 quarters, but zero for the other 2
Jsos now one of our most important players
We miss H. Yes HOK was great, but he had 5 contested marks and 5 touches. He will be great, but we need experienced H who can influence outside of a 1 on 1 grab
Fwd line looks better with Zac in it
Cinc so important
We will,win the next 2, but until we learn to keep that first q of footy going for 4qs, there is no point making finals
Looks like AFL 360 called us "The Lygon Street Butchers".
Talks about poor entry inside F50....showed 1 example of a miskick as proof we can't kick.
2 second analysis based on numbers, not game plan. Someone is always going to be 18th. Doesn't mean they can't kick.
you mean a footy show based a whole segment on 1 or 2 pieces of footage??? wow, thats never happenned before.
every time one of those blokes (lloyd especially) stands up in front of the screen, they show 1 or 2 pieces of footage and use it as proof of an absolute statement!!
most of these shows had melbourne dead and buried for the next few years, and then this week they are the next collingwood!!
last week walsh was back and his ball use was amazing, now he is our weak link and not in the top 30 mids in the comp.
way too much space to fill, with way too little to talk about, on the 53 different shows....
You know after thinking about what I watched on Sat and watching Terry's (Blue Abroad) review, something didn't look right with the players. The attitude doesnt seem quite there and I wonder what's the cause? Is the TDK move and potential senior player move causing angst? Is the E Hollands situation worse than what we know? Ollie in particular looked flat as a tack from when he ran out. Dunno, could be me just jumping to conclusions based purely on what I perceive (think I see) with no inside knowledge whatsoever.
Rumour I heard after the weekend was EH issue was relationship issues involving someone else’s partner from the club. This came from someone that’s around the club a lot but who knows. People say all sorts of stuff.
To me there doesn’t seem to be great camaraderie and why that is, only they know. I don’t sense they play for each other at all tho and yes they’re professional sportsmen and winning is the goal and they should be able to pocket any drama and just win. Winning does bring people together and I’m sure losing does the opposite.
Don’t know the answer but wouldn’t want to be Voss Lloyd or Austin at the moment as they will be feeling the pressure.
wooah - if true, that is huge. could explain a bit
Swans and GWS both have big injury lists. We have no excuses...
Yeah, we do struggle with adversity, and dont win those games with the big outs, like some other mobs do This is also the (what) 15th year in a row, that we have had poor "luck" with interrupted pre-seasons and injuries
But, to be glass half full - i know a lot of teams have 10 injuries, but look at the ones we have - JSOS - was proving to be one of our only great users of half back - Newy - ditto - Williams - our only potent goal kicking small forward - Cotters & Acres - our gut runners who provide a bit on the outside - Jager - some class and polish in the middle - Lij - can actually use it, going forward - Cincotta - would have been handy on Heeney last week and Greene this week - Charlie & Harry - both having interupted years - surely this is affecting them - Weeters - surely hurt this week - pretty self explanatory - Add to that Walsh (preseason) and Crippa (somehting not right) going at 90%, instead of 100%
They would all help a bit with our current weaknesses (and - I dont think Kennedy or Owies (or Stocker or Zac Fisher) would add that much to our current weaknesses - so, maybe the media can give that a rest)
Thing is they also had a team well below its full strength. No Gulden, McDonald, Adams, Mills, Papley. Plus next year it will be pit in and TDK out so better gets used to that one.
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Not an excuse - as we were terrible in the 2nd half. but i did hear this a bit over the weekend, re the Swans being injury hit
Pretty sure Adams & Mills played in the 2s and arent considered 1s players anymore for them.
You know what the really depressing thing is, Doc was probably the best in the magoos again this week. Sigh.
Should we have played Doc and had him run with Heeney all game?? He is about the only one on the list I could think of that could match him on-ball, and when he goes forward (the other was Cincotta). He couldnt have been worse than Evans/White/Binns
Just read Ross’ comments in today’s papers - “2 kids with 10 games experience up against Cripps and cerra, no wonder we lost”….. he somehow forgot to mention Steele, McRae, Sinclair. Fck you Ross. Keep coming up with excuses to try to keep your job. What was it? “Make your bed and lie in it”??
Bottom five performers Carroll, Lord, White, Motlop, Durdin for a collective two tackles for the game so far.
The first 3 on your list have how many games between them?
Let’s look more Closely at our senior players letting us down - McGs stupid errors cost us goals, Acres has been terrible, Charlie and Harry have done nothing much, Doch has been missing!
Some of Our senior players just do not set a standard consistently enough,
I don't think we're giving the commentators anything to enthuse about. Hard to find any positives for us. Probably our worst first half for the season.
Absolutely but their fawning over Tex is OTT and not much commentary about 4 missed head highs on George
Dwayne just basically said that our win v cats doesn’t count because myers was out