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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2025 Pre Game Carlton v Adelaide in Adelaide
out: JSos, Zac
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2025 Pre Game Carlton v Adelaide in Adelaide
I saw Cerra grab at his groin late in the game, went off holding it and in some discomfort. I have since read he may have injured it. I also read SOS hurt his hand. Haynes hurt his shoulder so we may miss a few net week.
is there a chance he grabbed it, to try to have an excuse for the worst snap at goal in recent history??
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
After watching that again on TV, what stood out to me was our handball game. No more hack kicks straight to the opposition, chains of HBs to players running by (not stationary players like the first 4 weeks). Every possession had some thought to it. Also, players barking instructions to the person with the ball were all consistent as opposed to 5 different players pointing to 5 different options.
These are the little things I noticed.
Seemed to be able to thread handballs out the front of the contest, to a teammates advantage a lot of the time. Not backwards to someone standing still or to someone under the hamme
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
One positive to whats been a pretty disappointing season so far is our midfield seems more balanced and less reliant on Cripps which is a great thing.
Despite having to let Kennedy go we finally have depth now and we are getting an even spread. I would say Cripps would be behind Hewitt, Cerra and even probably Walsh in the B&F to this point which is a massive positive.
Jack has found his home in defence and looks like a bloke who loves the challenge to play on the games best and is unfazed
Still think Charlie's output doesn't match his reputation. Everyone in the media go so over the top every goal he kicks mark he takes due to his energy and just the way he is exciting to watch but Harry on the other hand is a hard honest worker who is a bit unvalued IMO and his overall game is vital to us beating the best teams - He takes big late game team settling contested marks which is massive when the pressure is on, works s hard late up the ground. Charlie gets the most attention and as a result frees up others but think we underestimate Harrys importance when fit in big moments.
It makes the offseason journo comments (every fckn yr) “they should trade harry for some mediocre midfielder” all the more ridiculous. Just because he doesn’t kick a many goals as he did when he won the Coleman doesn’t mean H isn’t ridiculously valuable when he is on song
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
My kingdom for a clean lace out fwd50 entry. How many times did we steam forward, look a million bucks, then dribble one to Charlie’s feet, or over his head. Could’ve absolutely toweled them up with some tidying up of the forward entires
Loved the fwd 50 pressure
Loved the intercept marking (Haynes, gov, wieters, jsos)
Loved the taking the game on thru the middle, and the great hands, including the little handballs out the front of contests, even under pressure
Loved Lij
Loved Blakers looking to handball more than kicking
Loved JSos kicking
Loved fog, durds, white, mots
Loved Walshy making those media types writing him off, without a pre season, look silly
Loved TDKs run, fight and pressure
Loved what could be when Charlie, H, walshy, Crippa are all properly match fit
Gotta admit, watching again tonight, there were a couple of times, at the start of the 3rd and 4th qs, where I was worried we were going to lose the replay!
Oh and loved Hs last quarter
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Loved the fwd 50 pressure
Loved the intercept marking (Haynes, gov, wieters, jsos)
Loved the taking the game on thru the middle, and the great hands, including the little handballs out the front of contests, even under pressure
Loved Lij
Loved Blakers looking to handball more than kicking
Loved JSos kicking
Loved fog, durds, white, mots
Loved Walshy making those media types writing him off, without a pre season, look silly
Loved TDKs run, fight and pressure
Loved what could be when Charlie, H, walshy, Crippa are all properly match fit
Gotta admit, watching again tonight, there were a couple of times, at the start of the 3rd and 4th qs, where I was worried we were going to lose the replay!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast
. They need to be willing to keep at it against good sides when things aren't going well. I think we get open up at the back because the last player in the line is getting drawn to the play too early. Bryce Gibbs was excellent at holding his position whereas too many players get sucked into the contest when they see the ball.
Jeff White does some good analysis, online, mainly around centre square set ups. he is big on a couple of blokes holding their position, while 1 bloke actually goes in for the footy. as you said, many cant help themselves, and just naturally go in for the footy
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Well said
I dont necessarily agree with some of the above Mil. I'll pose to you that many of "us" watch the Carlton with the navy blue goggles on. I reckon the good analysts watch all teams without biased, you can tell who these one are. I happened to be with the brother of one the TV analysts last week actually who shared with me the power of work his brother does watching every game pouring over the stats and tactics to arrive at what is presented.
Too many footy shows at the moment, all need to make noise. Make an opinion based on a couple of clips of vision and then state it as fact. then the other shows pick up the theme then run with it. they all think they are US opinion shows now (colin cowherd, steven a smith etc)
A few on this thread have made great points saying this. none of the "experts" watch carlton as closely as we do. And, yes, some of them have access to "data" - but we know how misleading this can be
yeah, fair point. i am sure there are a few analysts that do the work (always thought king and montanga were pretty good). but there a number (especially the journos, dressed up as experts), that just parrot what others say and present it as facts\
then there are the tv heads that stand in front of clips that someone else has put together, and pretend that a 10sec clip explains a whole 120min game...
some are good, but there are just too many and all feel the need to have a strong opinion
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round
i agree with lods regarding Harry and Elijah because we played 1 week in reserves we go straight in (seniors ) no way time to get tough 3 wks in ressies and maybe.
they did both play the ressies scracth match the week before - so, really 2 mathches
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round
Maybe there is nothing to bring in, how about changing some roles (within reason). E.g. The turnover stats for Gov are horrible, 17 (worst in the comp) and 7 have directly resulted in goals to the opposition (that's 42 points of our 58 point total losing margin). Thats unsustainable. Im sure they are working with him to rectify this however if it continues, there must be a tipping point surely.
So tell us which senior players and their replacements and why they’ll improve things…?
I mean Moir had a ripper game on Friday after kicking the selection door down.
there is something going on there. he has always been a bit flaky, but last year he was actually pretty good, with minimal brainfades. this year, he is dropping uncontested marks and making really bad decisions.
maybe there is something going on at the club that we dont know about - the H and Lij problems, a number of prime movers down (some beacuse of injuries etc) - just too many issues at the moment....
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Well said
One of the problems we're facing is we are being judged in the moment.
And that's fair.
The question is..."Is what Carlton are producing at present the best they are capable of?"... and I reckon the answer to that is an emphatic "no"
McGovern,Saad, Curnow and Boyd are actually pretty gold field kicks. Cripps has a pretty decent handball. And that's for starters. The problem is that they all seem a little off at the moment. No one seems at their best, except maybe De Koning.
I tend to agree with this. we have known for a couple of years now that we lack a little bit of class on the outside. but i dont think its as bad as ALL the talk shows have now jumped on. all of a sudden we have the worst kicking/disposal team of all time. this wasnt an issue half way thru last year (with much the same list) - but now a few guys are down on confidence, and its now a major issue
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Well said
Just grabbing the low hanging fruit with no insight or analysis at all. Pretty much what First Crack is.
Too many footy shows at the moment, all need to make noise. Make an opinion based on a couple of clips of vision and then state it as fact. then the other shows pick up the theme then run with it. they all think they are US opinion shows now (colin cowherd, steven a smith etc)
A few on this thread have made great points saying this. none of the "experts" watch carlton as closely as we do. And, yes, some of them have access to "data" - but we know how misleading this can be
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
The only adequate replacement for Williams is lij hollands.
The rest are hail Mary's with only will white an unknown quantity. Moir is a second year player with currently a light body and minimal tank.
Until our season is completely dead we need to reward effort and form as much as possible and now it's on those on the cusp to come to the party, press for selection and perform once in.
Look no further than Lewis Young for the example. He's thus far been mich better than anyone thought this season, because he's giving it a red hot go. Where are the others? It's why I'm not bagging out Evans. He's on his 3rd club, he's occupying spot 46 on the list because players further up it have been ruled out for the year. If he's playing we have no other options that are doing their bit. He's an easy target to bag for the right reasons, but doesn't deserve the ire. Go higher up the list. Mcgovern was one that really was found wanting yesterday late. Dropped a couple of efforts that he's usually safe with and we couldn't get the ball in hand.
We are desperately missing Newman.
Mcgovern has been dropping easy marks for all 3 rounds - very unusual for him. normally a safe pair of hands.