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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Quote from: PaulP – on
I'm not aware of any vision, but Hayward said after the game that he was worried because he thought it looked skinny. Also, if you notice the goal umpire runs quickly to his right as the ball sails through the goals, so i don't think it was right through the middle.
Yeah, just left of centre, but the banana kicks can be deceptive if they curl a lot, technically they should go through towards the curl side of center which means the error is all inside the goal opening. For the same reason golfers play with a fade or draw, to eliminate the error to one side or the other. If a banana from in front curls and goes through the middle you've probably started it outside the goal face and if it didn't curl you'd miss.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Quote from: kruddler – on
Ruck contests went about 2/3rds pitto 1/3 harry.
Taps to advantage was 10 to 1 though.
Harry did some work on the ground and i highlighted as much in game. But pure ruckwork he is a long way behind.

Swap put pitto for reidy and we lose that game.
Don't care about the stats, Harry had a real 2nd effort presence and was putting himself in useful positions, stopping Geelong from too easily spreading which interferes with the opposition's ability to stand tight to our other Mids. Even when the Handbaggers won the footy they were forced sideways and backwards more often than not, trying to go around Harry or Pitto, and by not releasing that pressure / delay it means we don't suffer the horrible momentum swing against us. If fans just look at the stats, they'll come to the complete wrong conclusion. We kept hearing from the commentary how the Handbaggers would go through the middle, and when they tried it they failed.

FWIW, Harry and for that matter any other AFL KPPs are always going to struggle to be a marking influence against a team of Scott's Tunnel Kings, they are the best at it in the league as Kemp found out. Take the front position and they gently nudge you under the footy with a subtle raise of the knee into your hip, butt or back, take the back position and a team-mate will block your run at the footy. You basically need to do what Cripps did in the dying moments and fly in from the side or back of the pack, make the Cats take the front spot and break down the systematic interference that they like to initiate.

I thought too that despite not featuring in votes or stats the likes of Byrne, Young, Ainsworth, Wilson, Ison, Evans and the like had a genuine influence on the ground which stopped Geelong carrying the footy away after a good tunnel. It was probably the best small / medium sized game we've seen from them as a group, and it must surely show them what can happen when they do the team thing first instead of playing the selfish gene.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
The things she hears primary school kids talking about these days is horrifying. It's not easy to protect lives, prevent crimes  and enforce laws these days  because the crims (mainly young ones) simply dont give a fark about anything.
That issue with younger ones you have the chance to sort out, but only if you stop releasing the teens.

I know some Vicpol people who can predict the crimes coming over the next week or two by who was bailed this week, it's a merry-go-round.

They arrest these kids so often, they now know who it was just from the description of the event, they do not even need a description of the perpetrator, it's just rinse and repeat.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide
Quote from: kruddler – on
If we don't jump up and down about it now. What is stopping the club from doing it again next time.....and again....and again.

There is a difference between 'moving on' and 'holding the club accountable'.

Whether its the right decision or the wrong decision, time will tell.
Even if it was the wrong decision, it may end up working.
Even if it was the right decision, it mey not end up working.
I don't get why some fans have blind faith and think change is good, when change has been the one thing we've been doing consistently for the last 20 years. We are like a staggering drunk who keeps falling down the stairs and thinking, I'll be right next time!

The one thing we haven't done since the days of Parkin, is stick fat, and Wayne Brittain warned us about it!

But look at our history, we sack coaches after they win flags!
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
What's the trend of these little turds getting arrested, released with a feather duster on the wrist (not even a slap these days) and re-offending?
It's a legitimate question, but I'd assert the wrong people are being asked the question.

It's almost like the courts which are full of lawyers spend all day finding loopholes in the laws to set the multiple offending teens free!

I know of one person working on the inside that will tell you it's deliberate, because they think the evidence is clear, the more time the worst kids spend inside the system the more likely it is they become career criminals. But I'm not sure this isn't a confusion of cause and effect, and a consequence of lawyers, welfare and other legal types talking themselves into a corner.

Australia is a big place, maybe it's time to have some sort of remote national service camp for these kids, and put their natural talents to work in Iran or Afghanistan! Of course some will be horrified at the suggestion, but the there there there it'll all be right you are forgiven is clearly failing.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide
Quote from: shawny – on
Even im surprised with how quickly the old gameplan was changed and match day implemented with the same list.
Publish the link, I hope it wasn't the article that ranks career stats versus the last 2 games, aka the MAGA of all stats!

btw., Did you read the stats for the last 6 games, or are all stats bogus? :D

As @Thryleon had already linked for the various overnight miracle believers https://x.com/i/status/2059208469161590794
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
The captain couldn't get a kick, couldn't run out a game, couldn't lay a tackle under Voss, wouldn't commit to the club but suddenly is in brownlow form under Fraser? Weitering has played crape all year, Hewett dropped.
Walsh and Cripps, effectively our two most senior players, are 1st and 2nd in the Jim Park! :o

Now I realise that is consensus and the overall rating might not indicate how you have voted, but I'm sure Cripps didn't get to 2nd place off the back of not firing a shot! ;D
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide
Quote from: kruddler – on
I'm expecting the opposite with Hird.
Media pumping up his tyres, largely,
Not that I trust them, but the media pumping up Hird sort of makes sense if what Caro and Cornes report is true.

Caro and Cornes asserted Hird had been labelled by The Big House as never to coach again, and that would automatically put the media on the side of being Hird boosters because it brings controversy and conflict and that is profitable.

The AFL bang on about integrity, ............................., the media do not care about it!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide
It was obvious the team was on the improve way before Voss resigned.

I'll say it again, we blinked, and I fear in the process our club will eventually undo all or a lot of the progress that was being made in changing our game style, simply due to impatience, fear and uncertainty.

I have no idea what games some people are watching, or what they see when they watch, but it was clear our game style was changing but failing in execution, we could not do it for long enough or well enough. Maybe Voss resigning was the pressure release, but the game style has not changed even a miniscule over the last couple of weeks! They just got better at it which has enabled the team to execute it for longer.

It's obvious the club panicked, and it's not the first time!

Even if we finish 2026 strongly I expect the next coach to wipe the board sending us back to square one, after another 3 or 4 years we'll panic again and give them the ar5e, because that is what we've been doing for 20 years.

In the meantime, the AFL media and Commentary will probably just keep laughing at us, and we deserve it!