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Messages - Gointocarlton

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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
I'll say this, I used to see a liver specialist at a public hospital here in Melbourne. Check is via swiping your Medicare card at a console where you get a ticket with a number. The wait at the specialist clinics there is normally horrendous. On one occasion, in my haste, I accidentally clicked yes to the Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander question. I can tell you on that occasion my wait was minuscule, I virtually got called in straight away. Coincidence? Perhaps.
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Ladies Lounge / Re: Brad Lloyd to conduct Richmond AFLW review
Quote from: DJC – on
Despite some supporters blaming Lloyd for whatever they could think of, he is an astute footy person and well respected in the industry.

I don’t think that he’ll return to a role at a footy club but I expect him to crop up from time to time as a consultant.
I always thought he was a poor performer in front of the camera but as you say, probably an astute football person. He always came across as someone who cared about the club and gave it his all.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Quote from: dodge – on
Obviously, a 76 year old is vulnerable, but shouldn't be the driver for outrage.  Yes, she will be affected in several different ways which may make her life difficult (eg fear of going out, recurring flashbacks, general feeling of being unsafe in her own home etc). 

We have gone through several times on the site about solutions - prevention and rehab programs, stronger initial penalties and stronger consequences for broken penalties eg bail.

Then it is about funding and real effectiveness of these solutions - jail can be school to become a less worse crook.

The new Chief seems to be strong on prevention - more police presence on the streets and education.  Be interesting to see the effect of the new bail laws that have just come into operation - I don't know what they are.

This all takes time.  It won't be solved tomorrow. 

Will it make a difference?  Dunno.  Youth crime seems to be much more brazen now - offenders don't care if there are alarms or cameras, whether it is 3am or 3pm, who sees them, whether there is anyone home etc.  It will take time to turn this around.

The Liberal policy seems to be Jack's law (greater search powers on the street), rehab (school, post offending programs, mentoring), and if bail is broken, a holiday courtesy of the King is awaiting.  Cynical me thinks that this won't make much difference and is a long way in the future.

Curious as to what it actually was or is that lead to the current situation - knowing what it is can help lead to the solution.
1. Organised crime gangs using youths to do the dirty work, mainly stealing high end cars to be used in subsequent crimes. They use kids because they know when they get caught, they are immediately released over and over again.
2. Youth Gangs - Imbeciles here copying the US gang culture, it's stepped up to another level (in both prevalence and level of violence) compared to what it was in years gone by.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
From the HS
‘We need more prisons’: Pat, 76, woke with armed thugs inside her Brighton home
A brave Brighton grandmother has described the moment she confronted two knife-wielding men inside her loungeroom in the latest Bayside home invasion — and issued a plea for the state to get the crime crisis under control.

A 76 year old lady, come on guys. This farken beyond a joke now.

But nah, Jacinta says it's all good, nothing to see here Pat. Get back in your box.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: Professer E – on
Be careful,vid your dog bites an intruder can't you be charged with assault by a dangerous animal of some such rubbish? Crazy world we live in
If you chase them out of your house and they trip and fall, they will claim injury and you'll be charged with assault and battery. The problem isn't really the crook or the law, the problem is the crooked lawyer.

Thats a bit of a myth me thinks.
I do know of a business owner (and state level rifle shooter) who shot an intruder (wounded him the leg) who broke into his High St Northcote business in the 80s. Got off those chargers IIRC. Years later, was broken into again, again he shot the intruder in the leg but did some time for the second offence.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: LP – on
To me the main problem seems to be the gutless mask wearing thugs opportunistically hiding behind legitimate causes to create havoc, "Sovereign Citizens", 1%ers", "Conspiracy Nutters" and "Neo-Nazis" hiding behind university students and grandmothers.

This has little or nothing to do with the political left or right, that's just an excuse to bash a political opponent, the p1ssweak political parties are happy to schtuum it up when the target is the opposition.

Laws were passed to unmask these extremists, but they have never been enacted, it's as my signature quote states.

Step one should be removing the opportunity to profit from this sort of behaviour and a lot of it will evaporate, like that nutter who runs the Desi Retreats!
Crime increases when society breaks down more and people get more desperate in their efforts to survive.
Australia has become like the old Germany post WW1 when it transitioned from a semi-authoritarian empire to the Weimar Republic, a democracy that protected individual right and limited police power. You end up with the people looking for alternatives to restore safety and  order and thats when you get right wing extremists and nutters like the Nazi Party back then or in our case One Nation gaining popularity, political support and eventually power.
A lot of what went on back then mirrors what is happening in Australia even down to recent events with Jewish folk being hassled and buildings defaced etc due to society tolerating and being weak on offenders under the banner of democracy and freedom of speech etc but it all gets down to politics.
In short you have to fix the economic problems to fix the crime problems or you will get a repeat of history on a world wide level not just Australia..
 

We were talking about this at the dinner table tonight and the saying "the fish rots from the head" dawned on. Here you have our leaders getting on TV or on radio saying things like "there's no problem" or "Melbourne is safe". They are either delusional, dumb, talking crap/spin or all of the above. As the average Joe Blow if Melbourne is safe or If crime is in check or not and see what responses you get.
Keep burying heads in the sand and talking the softly softly approach, its got us this far so should keep working a treat...not
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Been saying it for ages, the joint is lawless.
Youth Crime
Starting filling jails with the perps and their parents when they are minors. The hunt down the organised crime gang members who are "hiring" kids to their dirty work and jail them for a long time.
Parents will start paying attention on where their children are and being, well, parents.
Kids will started thinking about consequences, as will crime.gang members.
Time to get serious, nuffs e farken nuff now.

Protest
Play nice or lose the right.
Track down the glass and rock throwers (left, middle or right) and make them accountable for their actions.

WTF has gone wrong with the general behaviour of society? Its disgusting the things humans do to other humans.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Lewis Young
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: Professer E – on
Ta ta McG, if HOF hadn't done his knee he would have been delisted a month ago ... Still think he's surplus to requirements and any contract should be minimum chips after his last one.  Lots of promises, delivered very little.
Yep, as I said previously I'd take Ryan Burton as a DFA and say bye to McGovern.
Boak will tell us whether Burton is a yes or a no.