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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 12 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast
Lazy...  we deliberately changed mode to a different style.

Not sure where the idea comes from that this is an effort or desire based situation.

Its a tactical shift to a slower mode of playing.

Not sure where the idea comes from that it's lazy or based on a desire. They are clearly trying to play a different method that is not as contested and there is no practice like match practice.  Occasionally our opposition are forcing this to happen but that wasn't what happened yesterday.
Good teams dont need to change the way the play so much, we had the opportunity 2 weeks in a row to go on with it and we get too sucked into worrying about the opposition and what they have changed. To my eye, and clearly I wasnt at the ground, it looked like from about mid way through the second, players stopped running and creating space for themselves. The HB chains stopped and its like we went into conservation mode.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 12 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast
If the opposition doesn't turn up -- Cheats/Weagles 1st qtrs (and others throughout the years) -- we look a million bucks. But the moment other sides get to work, it seems we just don't know what to do other than attempt to close the game down - blokes go into their shells, become panicky, confused, discombobulated, skills evaporate, disconnected and just plain ordinary. Inconsistency reigns. A bunch of individuals once any heat comes into the game. Plus, we're really boring to watch.
Our players are lazy. When we play well, we move the by hand quickly (to cater for lack of leg speed) and we look good. The minute the opposition apply pressure and close off space, we get impatient and go the useless long bomb to a contest. The talls dont seem to want to provide half decent one and the ball gets turned over.
When we play well under pressure from the opposition, we dont panic, we switch the footy from side to side and wait until an opportunity is created to then move the footy fwd. I saw players standing around doing SFA to get into space forcing the bomb or hack kick. craps me to tears and really, two weeks in a row we should have kicked cricket scores against those two defences. Losing two qtrs this week and 3 last week against those teams in an abomination.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 12 2025 Carlton vs Preston at Preston
Carlton : 18 - 14 - 122
Preston:  4 - 12 - 36
86 points will probably be our biggest for the year.
Jordan Boyd: 30 possessions, 9 marks & 3 tackles.
Billy Wilson:  27 possessions, 10 marks, 3 tackles.
Ben Camporeale: 24 possessions, 4 tackles, 1 clearance - not his biggest day.
Marc Pittonet: 20 possessions, 3 tackles, 41 taps and 10 clearances.
Seniors to back up please.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 14 2025 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth
ok, Ill play. How do WE know if Campo didn't pull up sore and picked up a little niggle?
What's Campo's trained role? Does Campo have the aerobic capacity to plug the hole left by Walsh? Can other roles be shuffled to accommodate Campo to cover the hole left by Walsh?
He got 32 touches last week (Ben, not Lucas) and ran out the game very well. VFL admittedly but that's what we have to to go on. Often Walsh's role is on the wing, Campo's spot. Just thought he'd be a better option than Binns and more like for like, if that is possible comparing to Walsh. Where we sit there's nothing to lose trying. The rest of our side can't run out a game so it doesn't matter anyway. There's a reason we sit 10-2 on the half time ladder with a percentage of 130% but sit 12th where it matters. 

If not, put Scotty Campo in, we know he could run up and down a wing all day....haha.
Binns, to his credit, can run 15 to 16 km without raising a sweat, what were Campos GPS numbers? Can he run 15km?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 14 2025 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth
Thought Campo was the obvious one. Especially after his game last week.
ok, Ill play. How do WE know if Campo didn't pull up sore and picked up a little niggle?
What's Campo's trained role? Does Campo have the aerobic capacity to plug the hole left by Walsh? Can other roles be shuffled to accommodate Campo to cover the hole left by Walsh?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 14 2025 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth
There decisions might seem strange but they have the benefit of knowing the ins and outs of a ducks ass. They watch and monitor the players every day know exactly what they are/arent capable of and where they are in there stage of development. We simply dont have this level of knowledge.

I agree!

Skull is a case in point.  He wasn't ready for AFL, something clicked, and then he was.  The coaches picked that up and he got his chance.  Same with Harry O'Farrell; many supporters were dubious but he acquitted himself well.

Ben Camporeale will get his chance when he's ready.
HOK said himself in a recent interview that he wasnt ready 6 mths ago.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 14 2025 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth
Ben Campo to replace Walsh for me...
Re: Fantasia ....We complain about injuries and use them as an excuse for poor results and then go and recruit known injury prone players like Martin, Williams, Fantasia and McGovern. None of their former clubs made a supreme effort to keep them and we just love a free to a good home sales sign and cant resist buying.
We dont have a good history of getting players right so why would we be taking a chance on injury prone players?, Fantasia cant stay on the park so his form or ability is irrelevant.
Anyone we recruit has to be 100% with no injury concerns, you wouldnt buy a car thats been in an accident so why recruit a player with a history of injury concerns ?
I admit that this would be a good time to blood Ben Camporeale, but our Match Committee generally don't see things the way I do. Some of their decisions are more than a little strange far too often.
But then, as long as we win, I guess they've done their job. I just don't think they've always allowed us to win.
There decisions might seem strange but they have the benefit of knowing the ins and outs of a ducks ass. They watch and monitor the players every day know exactly what they are/arent capable of and where they are in there stage of development. We simply dont have this level of knowledge.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 14 2025 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth
I don't get the hate for Orazio. He's played 40 games in 6 seasons, would be among the cheapest players on the list, cost us nothing in terms of trade and draft capital, and people carry on like he's not only responsible for all of Carlton's ills, but is apparently stopping some young guns from getting games. His name is basically rage bait.

It's in all supporters' interests to back their players 100%, whether you personally like them or not.
Reality is, if there was someone to displace him they would. He is playing because he warrants a game based on our structure, his work ethic on the training track and in the 2s and the form of those competing for the same role (if there is one). This notion that he is Vossy's pet is nonsense.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 14 2025 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth
Motlop 12 games, 9 goals
Durdin 7 games, 10 goals
Durdin 44 goals over 55 games, Motlop has 51 goals in 52 games, one of the greatest small fwds of our time Eddie Betts had 51 goals in his 50th game. Not dissimilar pace and they are young so there is time. With Durdin the question is around durability. With our small fwds in general, we need another quality explosive one.