I saw some random youtube video on BYD and how they are heavily backed by the chinese government and its not sustainable and could potentially go bust if one of a couple things happen. It was kinda just on in the background, but it seemed theoroughly researched and plenty of facts and figures based on annual figures etc etc.
Was a bit worrying as if any of it came to fruition, it would cause complete chaos to the car market.
BYD get looked after by the Chinese Government with subsidies and cheap state bank loans because they are seen as a national success story, they do have some debt but its not extreme. Founder led listed business on the HK exchange and the Chairman who runs it is a keen CCP member with an interest in China's strategic position and hasnt had to have his arm twisted to align himself with Xi's directives. Their sales figures have dropped at home but with Xi helping him out Id expect that to be mitigated and they will stay on top of the EV heap while the brand stay aligned with the Government..
I think one of the issues would be if the Chinese government stopped subsidising them, they would crumble like a house of cards and just as quick. I think sales figures have also been inflated, with 1000's of them being 'bought', but rusting away in a car park somewhere.
I saw some random youtube video on BYD and how they are heavily backed by the chinese government and its not sustainable and could potentially go bust if one of a couple things happen. It was kinda just on in the background, but it seemed theoroughly researched and plenty of facts and figures based on annual figures etc etc.
Was a bit worrying as if any of it came to fruition, it would cause complete chaos to the car market.
We've disrupted the space-time continuum by changing something in our past leading to an alternative timeline where we actuality play collingwood in round 1 this year!
..... otherwise known as... Can fix the round number in the title.
Surprised they bring in Lord with Hewett in. Even if Cerra goes back to the wing we lack a bit of pace.
Maybe Hewett will be a late out and Flynn Young comes in to play the Jack Ison role.
Disappointed they have dropped Holland but can understand why. Just hope they play him in the same role in the VFL and not as an inside mid.
Don't think Reidy has done much right all year, and his inclusion must be based on trackwork and a little bit of hope.
I've suggested this before (possible last time we played them) but i'd like to see Cottrell go to Daicos. He has the tank. He adds agression which Naicos doesn't like. Would get inside his head.
I literally said that in the post. Not like you to respond to things without reading them (or is it?)
I did read it and wasn't having a go at your post just stating without those stats the comparison is pointless. Your last sentence says 'the point remains' - my post was inferring the stats provided mean nothing so cant be used to demonstrate Kemps kicking.
You do realise this is a forum with differing opinions
It was more about the relative perceptions of people and their kicking rather than 'proving' anything one way or another.
Fevola is a kicking god. Harry is a kicking hack. Yet %'s show the opposite. Harry would need to completely miss 1 in 20 shots more than fev to be on a par % wise.
Now, i know who i'd rather have kicking for goal.....and its not based on %'s......but perhaps peoples bias cloud their output.
I know this is not exactly what you were talking about and the following data doesn't take into account complete misses (look at you Harry) but point remains, i think Kemp is being a bit harshly judged.
Player
Goals
Behinds
Total Shots
Accuracy (%)
Brendan Fevola
623
402
1,025
60.8%
Jack Gunston
593
344
937
63.3%
Robbie Gray
367
262
629
58.3%
Jamie Elliott
364
230
594
61.3%
Charlie Curnow
363
164
527
68.9%
Harry McKay
296
155
451
65.6%
Brodie Kemp
38
26
64
59.4%
Data Source: AFL Tables career records.
these stats not counting shots that go on the full or some food drop short mean they are not a true measure of goal kicking accuracy.
if you can find one that does registar all the other ‘misses’ you will find they are worlds apart
I literally said that in the post. Not like you to respond to things without reading them (or is it?)
I prefer specialist KP forwards rather than manufactured ones...we need to recruit a young KP who is a good kick at U18 level and doesn't need remedial work. Brendon Fevola comes to mind...we don't have that player like a Fevola, Gunston, Elliott, Robbie Gray who can kick that set shot match winner in the final seconds under pressure.
I know this is not exactly what you were talking about and the following data doesn't take into account complete misses (look at you Harry) but point remains, i think Kemp is being a bit harshly judged.
It's a fruitless argument that is dominating many threads. The same things are being written time after time. Yet I doubt one mind has been changed.
And in twelve months from now the whole thing will just be another sad chapter in our 21st century history. We'll have no doubt moved on next year to a new crisis or new beginnings. People have had their say, it's on the record. It'll still be here as long as the site exists in it's present form. But I doubt anyone will look back more than a few pages on any thread they engage with.
At the very least, can posters please try and confine the Voss/Fraser discussion to the relevant coach thread.
Lods, i feel your frustration. However, yours seems directed at one side of the debate. Don't blame the retaliators. blame the instigators. They've been needling us for months, and continue to do so. Now the shoe is on the other foot and you expect us to continue to cop it? Not going to happen.
Sort of thought that while the Hawks were the better side, we played ok up until 6 minutes to go in the 3rd.
The Ginnivan goal, the free to Gunstan for high contact after he fell and finally the Ison error with 6 minutes to go with his kick missing Walsh took all the air out of the game. 2 or 3 inside 50 entries resulted in a Hawthorn uncontested marks, which given the conditions was a poor outcome.
Credit to Hawthorn. They own us in recent times
....and we own Geelong.
When you look at the opposition, not the coach, all our results make sense.
