I want to understand the reasoning behind arresting those responsible for pouring petrol on a building and lighting it and then releasing them with a slap on the wrist. Ill bet both my balls they got out and set fire to another building and collect another 20K each. Sounds like easy work, might consider it myself. Perhaps we should go around to schools and promote this lucrative and entrepreneurial business.
I guess it's down to the fundamental legal principle that "Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall have the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law." The fact that the arsonists are all teenagers goes in their favour too.
The latest three arsonists arrested, one of whom set himself on fire , have been charged with aggravated burglary, criminal damage by fire, handling stolen goods, committing an indictable offence while on bail and possession of cannabis. Committing an indictable offence while on bail means revocation of bail and a mandatory three months behind bars in addition to any other sanctions. Sadly though, I don't believe that these kids will be deterred or reformed by prison.
Innocent until proven guilty, sure.
But there is taking the piss. If what you say is true, one was caught 'red handed', that is literally burned in the process! Yet is still innocent and allowed to roam free. Surely there has to be a bit more common sense in this.
B: 14 Oliver Florent 47 Wade Derksen 2 Lachlan Cowan HB: 24 Nic Newman 35 Harry Dean 15 Billy Wilson C: 5 Adam Cerra 18 Sam Walsh 32 Matthew Carroll HF: 19 Will Hayward 17 Brodie Kemp 30 Jack Ison F: 39 Talor Byrne 10 Harry McKay 12 Ben Ainsworth R: 27 Marc Pittonet 7 Jagga Smith 9 Patrick Cripps Int: 26 Nick Haynes 29 George Hewett 45 Flynn Young 11 Mitch McGovern 44 Francis Evans Em: 25 Liam Reidy 33 Lewis Young 13 Blake Acres
[1] I would have thought Young would come in for Weitering. Hope Derksen can do the job. If we win in the midfield he might. If they stream out of the middle, Georgiades will get a lot of ball.
[2] Acres: is he as out of favour as Boyd has become? He is in form. Not sure Cerra is a wingman ...
[3] One ruck each. Point source error or masterstroke? We don't have much backup.
Harry found form when he spent more time on the ruck...hes our 2nd ruck....cripps like to get freed up in that way too.
A very different 'parting of the ways' to the usual straight forward sacking. And that takes some time to get our collective heads around. The senior coach tendered his resignation, which was accepted. The senior coach was/is loved & respected by players and all staff at PP. Everyone from the club speaks highly, publicly, of Vossy. This is not normal for many who need to have a good guy and bad guy. Everyone's a good guy in this unique scenario. Heads explode! And some busy themselves, still, hunting for a guilty party in all this. Newsflash: it's done, time to move on.
Perhaps.
The same style press release was issued in regards to Austin....yet within the week he was seeking legal action to sue the club for sacking him.
So the club has proven to tell porky pies, on the same day no less, so is it plausible that they told 2 'lies' on the same day? Absolutely. Regardless, i think its more like...."You are done here. You choose how you want to go out." Vossy chose that way.
Yes, its all done and dusted. Thats not the story though.
The story is the guys who pulled the trigger......or accepted the resignation after pointing a gun to his head. Did they do the right thing. As above, PR spin is working wonderfully.....except the austin part.....but was it actually the right decision? Time will tell.....but most likely not reveal itself at all, look at the past 25 years of coaches.
I said the week before Vossy was sacked that i expected a few more wins in the coming weeks, this being the most likely. Next week being also likely. So he's timing was off, he may have saved himself, but it appears the decision was already made, so there was no point.
Its funny, this mirrors a lot of peoples thoughts in regards to our coach.
This guy is 'no good', so anyone else MUST be better. Be careful what you with for.
It would bloody hard to get the state worse then it is now so well worth the risk to give another oarty a go. If you dont replace the current party as your concerned you may get worse well using that mentality you wont be getting out your bed in the motning for fear of what may happen if you leave the house.
spin this ine anyway you want they need to go.
same as our coach!!
I'm sensing there are a lot more correlations than you would immediately think between the 2.
I haven't voiced my concern either way on the matter.
Just noting biases and expectations align pretty well.
All comes down to the 'can't be any worse' line of thinking. Which, personally i think is very much the wrong way of thinking.
As an aside the 'can't be any worse' when talking about our coach/club is laughable....considering we are NOT bottom of the ladder....so clearly CAN get worse. Government is less clear cut, but very much similar. There can ALWAYS be worse.
I don't think anyone can predict our number of wins from here. A lot depends on how we approach the games. Do we want to go all out to try and win as many as possible, which in some respects would be counterproductive. or Do we want to spend the rest of the year evaluating the list, trying players in different positions and getting games into youngsters. It may be a combination of both.
Jim can. He has it all worked out. It simples. Only reason we won was because Voss wasn't coaching. He's said it all year.
So i'm trying to see if these mighty powers of him work with foresight, or is it just hindsight.
In 40 minutes, we scored 1 goal, opposition scored 3.3. Thankfully not kicking straight.
That was 1/3rd of the total game time. Why were we so poor? What was our pressure rating then?
Can't blame Voss for that one.
Or doesn't it count this week??
If we played Sydney or Brisbane instead of an injury riddled out of form doggies, it would've been a lot worse. Dogs last 5 games have included.... 2x 10 goal losses 1x 12 point loss to freo (was 14 points for us) 1x2 point win against Port. and a loss to us.
But it has nothing to do with their 'lack of' form, its all got to do with our interim coach.
Give it away. I see through your spin. Spin...spin...spin!!! You use that alot.
We played 4 qtrs for the first time in ages and kept up the pressure, eventually finishing on. Knowing when to play tempo footy as seen with 124 marks, rather than play on and boot it to a contest meant we didn't die on out butt and had plenty left. Better than winning well then collapsing on a weekly basis. Clutching at 3 goals in a row to say otherwise...hahaha. That happens every week to a number of sides. We were never more than 11pts behind. We do 5+ goals on a weekly basis. We took on a decent side and beat them, remembering we were 3rd last because of your favourite coach. You mightn't like the answer but bad luck. Try your spin on others.
I like how you can't answer any question directed to you.
Your default answer is 'spin' 'clutching at straws', 1-8, 12-40. You offer now analysis. No independent thought. Its all 'fake news' trump style misdirection.
Both myself and MBB have asked you repeatedly (and Shawny who is in the same boat) what we should expect this year now we've sacked the coach. How many wins we should get. etc. You say nothing.
If you wanna debate the merits of something, actually bring something to the table.
Obviously we would have beat the Lions had Voss not coached that game.
Might have worked a bit harder in that first half rather than pressure rating of 140 to 150.
In 40 minutes, we scored 1 goal, opposition scored 3.3. Thankfully not kicking straight.
That was 1/3rd of the total game time. Why were we so poor? What was our pressure rating then?
Can't blame Voss for that one.
Or doesn't it count this week??
If we played Sydney or Brisbane instead of an injury riddled out of form doggies, it would've been a lot worse. Dogs last 5 games have included.... 2x 10 goal losses 1x 12 point loss to freo (was 14 points for us) 1x2 point win against Port. and a loss to us.
But it has nothing to do with their 'lack of' form, its all got to do with our interim coach.
, have been charged with aggravated burglary, criminal damage by fire, handling stolen goods, committing an indictable offence while on bail and possession of cannabis. Committing an indictable offence while on bail means revocation of bail and a mandatory three months behind bars in addition to any other sanctions. Sadly though, I don't believe that these kids will be deterred or reformed by prison.