Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: kruddler – on August 03, 2026, 07:34:21 pm

Which has been the argument all along.

I've never said Voss is a supercoach. Just give him some time to do what he needs to do. Fraser is riding on his coattails, and not doing a thing wrong, and doing plenty right. But people attributing all the success to Fraser and none to Voss is a recipe for disaster.
Look at the bigger picture as to what has changed since Vossys departure.

2 things....quality of opposition has been poorer.
Improvement from our captain (and its not just him, but obvious when looking at him) has made a huge difference.

I don't want to restart the debate. The article is nothing new to me, and some others, however all the voss haters/fraser boosters continue to ignore that and argue against it. Its dishonest and/or naive.

I’m ambivalent to be honest but I don’t buy your comment about quality of opposition given we have beaten Geelong and Brisbane.

Quote from: PaulP – on August 03, 2026, 07:04:36 pm

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2026/08/03/afl-2026-carlton-win-versus-brisbane-the-perfect-game-adam-simpson-lauds-blues-dominance-after-15-year-first

While he doesn’t believe the win was a lesson in coaching from interim Fraser, Simpson did concede that everything the Blues have been working on – even prior to Fraser’s tenure – was on show in full effect on Saturday night.

“I’m not sure it’s a masterclass, but everything they tried worked,” he said.

“Sometimes it’s just playing your way. A lot of the things Carlton have done really well in the last 10 weeks; they were working on in November and December.

“That’s the beauty of the transition that Josh made. He didn’t tweak a lot of things, but they evolved really quickly.

based on that Vossy wasn’t given enough time, just when that debate was beginning to subside🙄. Also far from an ringing endorsement for Fraser as our next senior coach.

We have to win this week. Saints won't lose again.

Quote from: kruddler – on August 03, 2026, 10:32:25 am

Only time you really wanna do that is if you want that player to get the ball because you think he'll turn it over back to you.

Well that backfired then didn't it.

Cooper Lord 24 disposals (18 kicks) at 95.8%

One thing I noticed about Lord is that he was often by himself with no opponent within cooee 🤔

We have Kemp Harry McGovern as key forwards with haywood as a mid marking forward so imo we are probably a tad tall with that line up - reckon we could get by with 2 talls and using another mid marking forward then either kemp or mcgovern would be the depth key forward.

Its not easy to have quality key positions depth capable of performing impacting just sitting idle playing 2nds footy waiting for their chance.

No list is perfect and sure ours is not but imo its not anywhere near as bad as some make it out to be.

Quote from: kruddler – on August 02, 2026, 06:56:08 pm

The reason the list needs work is because we have holes.
Sure, everyone has holes.
But, some holes we have no cover for.
Imagine we had a good run with injuries, and were like Freo, sitting pretty on top of the ladder. Then we lose a couple players in key areas, which leads to poor results, which leads to more injuries, etc Season gone.

Won't/Can't happen?

Remember when we were 2 games clear in 2nd place a few years ago? Its already happened.....and we are more susceptable to that kind of fall now.

If we lost Harry and lost Kemp......how could we cover them?

you said the same about weitering yet 2 kids with under 20 games are covering.

You looking at everything with a negative lens mate. prior to last year you were the complete opposite and you has excuse after excuse lied up for every poor performance - so its hard to take your posts seriously at the moment as you seem to be more concerned with having your opinion being correct above anything else.

Not really part of this thread, but Davies has stated the club's belief that the list requires "significant work." What exactly he means by that is anyone's guess.