Moir's only kicked multiple goals on three occasions in his 13 games...including one where he kicked 4 That's what we need to see 3-4 goals a game to make up for the missing moments. He doesn't have to do it every game but at least on a regular basis.
Ison hasn't kicked 2 in a game yet.
Worse than that, Ison has kicked 3.10. We have enough poor kicks in the team already. Moir....15.7 over his career.
For a bloke who is no good and goes missing far too often, his numbers still stack up against some other 'favourites' who get more of a gig.
Without Harry.....who is going to cause more damage up forward? Moir or Ison?? If that who we are choosing between.....is it a choice?
I like what Moir brings, has the talent.to be a superstar but he kind of lost me in the first quarter of opening rd when he gave up a chase way too easily.
I would like to see him get a few games later in the season once we are officially done. Saturday is still a live game and he can't be trusted yet.
Ison is my preffered option at the moment.
Ison had 0 tackles in his last outing vs Hawks and averages 1.6 tackles /game and 0.4 goals/game Moir averages 1.4 tackles/game and 1.15 goals/game over his career.
That must be one hell of a 'half tackle' Ison brings every game by comparison.
Moir is becoming a caricature of himself. His output exceeds perception.
I've been wanting to see Derksen forward since he joined us, and I also noticed that he had a run up there at the end of the Collingwood game.
It needs to be an extended run though if we're really to see if it has merit. The absence of Weitering complicates things a bit though, and we may not have the luxury,
I think we trialled Derkson forward at some stage, may have been in a practice match? Might've only been briefly. It didn't seem to go well from what i can recall.
That being said, his time down back early on didn't go well either. Maybe now will be different?
My concern with Moir is more around the 'selection integrity'. Is the one or two goals a game worth as much as someone running, chasing providing pressure and turnovers. How do you justify giving him a game ahead of someone who might be busting a gut to get an opportunity and performing much better in the VFL. Blokes like Ben C and Charleson would have to wonder.
I go back tp fogarty. Bustjng a gut did not help us win.
In our area Tritons have become increasingly more popular with tradies, I see them on job sites everywhere. Rangers are now popular with the weekend warriors, they seem to have replaced the Landcruisers and Patrols as the weekend vehicle of choice.
Tritons are sonmuch cheaper than the holux and rangers, thats whybthey are popular. But they drive like a boat.
Rangers became the options because alternatively you were paying 10k more for a vehicle that had less. Thats an expensice badge the toyota were selling.
Everests are the same as the ranger, just for people who want to carry more 'inside things' (like kids) conpared to outside things (like tools) Mate took one on a 9 week holiday up central Australia with a caravan. Did its job.
Top-selling utes in Australia for 2026 (H1) Australia remains a ute-loving nation, but sales took a dive during the first half of 2026. In particular, the volume-selling 4x4 ute category dropped to 96,153 units (-11.1%). This impacted not only diesel models but the BYD Shark 6 PHEV, too, although the new BYD Shark 6 Performance and Cab Chassis variants now available should boost the Chinese brand’s sales during the second half.
2026 Top 5 utes in Australia (H1): Ford Ranger – 26,314 (-7.0%) Toyota HiLux – 22,607 (-13.9%) Isuzu D-Max – 12,908 (-8.2%) Mitsubishi Triton – 10,351 (+12.2%) BYD Shark 6 – 9493 (-8.9%)
Not sure what those figures are comparing, but sales for utes seem to be up on this time last year
If true, and you asked me to sum up why sales are down in 1 sentence, it would be relatively simple. People can't afford to spend that much on a new car nowadays.
Cost of living is going through the roof. Cost of these same cars are going up as well. People always want to upgrade, but maybe they can hold on for one more year.
I just got through showing Moir's stats in another thread. He kicks over a goal a game and kicks accurately in front of goal. 2 things our forwards don't do.
I wouldn't play Kemp in the middle, but i wouldn't mind seeing him on a wing as a connector between defense and attack. Resting deep forward.
HOK vs Young....are you playing to win, are you playing for the future?
I had this down as a game we should win.....i'm not so sure now......but i reckon we could 100% lose it at the selection table.
Thought about Kemp on the wing. He'd be a nice link coming out of defence. The issue i have with Moir is his workrate. No doubt a real touch of class as he has shown at times but I wonder if he will become another Troy Menzel. It's why he hasn't played more often. He looks like the type that will frustrate the life out of us all. Be so good if he was able to improve all that as he has some class.
I get the work rate thing....you know what, i don't care. Fogarty was always picked for his work rate. Would chase tackle and harass....did it help us? Did it result in more goals being kicked? The way the ball is bombed into our forward line currently, it goes straight to the opposition, so you even need to worry about chasing/harrassing. Its kicked straight back out.
What you need is more bang for your buck. Whats the point of targetting kemp and Harry 40 times a game and maybe getting 2, maybe 3 goals out of it. Target Moir 10 times and he'll give you a goal or 2.
Yes he is lazy. Yes he is laconic. But thats a problem with forwards these days, they do so much bloody running that it effects their shots at goal. Maybe we need more of a stay at home, make the most of your opportunities. Worked for Fev. He only chased when he got angry and wanted to hurt someone and make a point.
With cerra out, it's time for a camporeale. Do we want ben in the guts or lucas on the wing?
Up forward the cupboard. I've earned about this, now reality all hit us.
Id bring in moir and tell him to play deep forward.
Interesting selection week.
Good questions, K. Here's some more.
Do we really want to risk H and Cez?
Do we reward ordinary Magoos form? Specifically, do we reward Moir's ordinary form with a senior gig? Likewise the Campos. HOK has been ordinary but his last appearance was better. In for H? Lewis Y in to take on King? Harry Charleson has been reasonable in the Magoos... give him a lash at senior level? Likewise Flynn Y.
Do we give Kemp a run in the midfield, changing with Crippa?
Boyd's form has been okay... replace Cez?
Try Ollie H again?
Thursday evening's team selection will be fascinating.
No point risking either Harry or Cerra IMO.
I just got through showing Moir's stats in another thread. He kicks over a goal a game and kicks accurately in front of goal. 2 things our forwards don't do.
I wouldn't play Kemp in the middle, but i wouldn't mind seeing him on a wing as a connector between defense and attack. Resting deep forward.
HOK vs Young....are you playing to win, are you playing for the future?
I had this down as a game we should win.....i'm not so sure now......but i reckon we could 100% lose it at the selection table.
Go watch a replay and look at sam walsh. His long ball on top of someone's head (not to our advantage, but over 50m so it's an 'effective kick') played right into the oppositions hands. He needs to sort that out. Look at jagga by comparison.
Love them both but Smithy also has a big flaw - he has a tendency to handball at the feet of teammates. Really gotta fix this. Fumbles and turnovers, as we saw last night, are death in this game. Even a mediocre side like Collingwood will kill you on the rebound.
Some of Smith doing that is to avoid an opponents hand/arm trying to block it. No point aiming for a chest if you know it won't get there.
But with ball in hand, kicking forward, i'm taking Jagga over Walsh any day of the week.
I'm looking at the hybrid Ranger, simply for on board power. Can run a fridge and have power when camping which saves me carrying extra batteries.
Supposebly gets a $h!tload better l/km but when work pays for that, i don't care.
Ford need your business, without the Ranger they would be out of business....
I didn't like Ford or rangers until i was given one as a company car. Their tech is far superior to anything else out there. So much so, that i couldn't live with anything less now. I was a hilux man before that, but they ended up being overpriced and well behind on tech. They have caught up recently.
I did have a triton for a while which was terrible to drive and while the tech was better than the hilux, was nowhere near the ranger.
I don't need it for any hardcore off-roading, but do go camping in areas where 4wd is not necessary, but can get you out of trouble.
There's a reason they sell so many.....and its mostly due to companies making them their base fleet car....but they are good to drive and don't feel like a ute.
Some points of frustration.... 1. Kicking.....practice it, quick. We cant kick at goal. We cant kick to advantage. We cant kick to a teammate inside 50.
This extends past the usual suspects. Go watch a replay and look at sam walsh. His long ball on top of someone's head (not to our advantage, but over 50m so it's an 'effective kick') played right into the oppositions hands. He needs to sort that out. Look at jagga by comparison.
2. Inside 50s..... Similar to the above our entries inside 50 are largely poor. Its not all about the kicking though. The poor leading (or non existant) leading) didn't give the kicker much choice.
Both the above lag to the same problems ever had for years midfield-forward connection.
The game result was consistent with my ladder theory and strength of opponent being the ultimate predictor of how well we do.
