Huh? TDK is overrated and on crazy money, doesn't mean he can't teach our 8th gamer a few things....or are you suggest HOK is the equal of TDK???
Again, we got beaten by someone....some of the best players in the game. Out of curiosity, i had a quick look for top 50 players for 2026 prediction, clicked on the first link that popped up. https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/47893628/afl-top-50-best-afl-players-season-2026-daicos-bontempelli-heeney-neale-darcy All of the players you mentioned were in the top 50, including Daicos at #2. So yes, we got beaten by good players and we struggled to stop them......just like every other team struggles to stop them, because they are elite. Perhaps we don't have the players to stop them. Could that be a list management issue??
Incidently of the players that left Curnow - #14 The blokes we got in, didn't crack the top 50. So yeah, our list got worst.
Leigh Matthews couldn't stop Daicos with our list. Not sure why you think Voss can.
Again more excuses after excuses after excuses.
With debating skills like yours, i don't know why i bother.
Moir is still only a kid. Just turned 21, hasn't even played 15 games yet.
He may well have a long career and i expect it to be similar to someone like Houlihan who will constantly be berated for the way he 'looks' when he plays.
Its not the 'in' thing at the moment for someone to conserve their energy and not waste it chasing someone they will never catch. The 'in' thing is why someone like Fogarty has kept someone like Moir out of the side. Run, chase, tackle.
At the end of the day, whoever kicks the most goals wins games. Moir might do nothing for 90% of the game, but he'll likely kick you a goal or 2 in the other 10%.....which is an upgrade on Fogarty. I actually wrote that before deciding to double check my observations.
13 games 15 goals (7 behinds)
1.15 goals/ game
Fogarty 76 games 36 goals (40 behinds) 0.39 goals/game
I know I've gone on and on about this, but I think our biggest problem is our inability to have 10+ goal wins, they just never happen regardless of how much we dominate an opponent. We can dominate for 3-qtrs and lose, and when we win we can dominate for 4-qtrs and limp over the line.
The big wins are the thing missing from our equation, too many close results win or lose are exhausting, a big win is like a week off!
We are like a chippy trying to drive a nail to the perfect depth with one swing of the hammer, it can happen but it's so rare virtually 100% of attempts are fails!
Get a better chippy.
I've said it before, but we don't have the cattle.
You can disagree, some will, but what we are seeing most weeks is a lot of changes. This means we don't have a settled side. A settled side struggles to find continuity and trust in eachother which can result in mistakes/lapses, which is what we are seeing.
Some say we have a rubbish list, some say we have a rubbish coach, some say we have both.
The fact remains we are in round 8 this week, and are currently 3rd on the ladder for minutes led in matches.
Not bad for a bunch of talentless hacks. Too paid the results havent gone the way we would have liked. Perhaps with some better coaching, some more luck, or some more hutzpah, we wouldnt even need better players.
Are we still 3rd though? We didn't lead a minute of our game against freo, so i imagine we dropped a fair way.
Not surprising that 2 of the highest paid players in the game may cause us grief.
You think of that yourself did you Shawny? Gold star for you.
Also happens to be 2 players we have not a single matchup for on our list. But it'll be Vossys fault he doesn't have a unicorn ruck and an elite stoppage midfielder with pace to burn to play on these 2.
Honestly, i don't know if i'd want Harry back in this week. Give him an extra week just for $hits and giggles. Kemp+McGovern worked well together - 9 goals between them is about as good as you could hope for.
My changes for this week.... Wilson <-> Florent.....simply need better disposal F. Young <-> Byrne.....one needs a rest, one needs a gig. HOK <-> L.Young....Young is not the future, let HOK run around with TDK all day and learn something. Evans <-> Saad.....Frankie wasn't bad, but i'd like to inject a bit more run and chaos. Potential NWM matchup. O. Hollands <-> Cottrell.....one is fitter than the other. Cerra <-> Hewett....i think Cerra was cramping late (or a soft tissue injury) Hewett runs out the games better and has done his time.
Overall, that should give us more run and better disposal, despite being 'like for like' in a lot of ways.
If we are a bit cleaner going inside 50 and in front of goal, then that loss (and this one?) could be turned into a win pretty easily.
Overall, i expect about 1 of them to actually go ahead.....but thats what i'd do.
But i thought TDK was average and on crazy money - now he all of sudden he is a star and not able to be beaten and shouldn't be mentioned? What's your excuse why we allow Sinclair to play on his own every time we play them?
We have been crushed in every game except R1 as our Coaching department has NFI how to stop a run on how to clamp a player, no defensive modes - NADDA.
And this is not just this year - How many times has the same footballers done little then they play like superman against us. Check the list below of matchwinners that turned it on and killed in so far this year.
Agree there is a pattern or you can find another excuse. Look at their games lending into the game against us - they all hit top form against us... Why? Could it just possibly be that our coaching debt is below par on planning and tactics for opposition matchwinners and we have no systems to slow the play hence why the minute a player or team get a run on everyman and his dog knows it curtains.
Nah its cause we lost Jack, Charlie and TDK in the offseason and only got in old duds.
Of course it is.
You get bored and make up the movie in your head?
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But i thought TDK was average and on crazy money - now he all of sudden he is a star and not able to be beaten and shouldn't be mentioned?
Huh? TDK is overrated and on crazy money, doesn't mean he can't teach our 8th gamer a few things....or are you suggest HOK is the equal of TDK???
Again, we got beaten by someone....some of the best players in the game. Out of curiosity, i had a quick look for top 50 players for 2026 prediction, clicked on the first link that popped up. https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/47893628/afl-top-50-best-afl-players-season-2026-daicos-bontempelli-heeney-neale-darcy All of the players you mentioned were in the top 50, including Daicos at #2. So yes, we got beaten by good players and we struggled to stop them......just like every other team struggles to stop them, because they are elite. Perhaps we don't have the players to stop them. Could that be a list management issue??
Incidently of the players that left Curnow - #14 The blokes we got in, didn't crack the top 50. So yeah, our list got worst.
Leigh Matthews couldn't stop Daicos with our list. Not sure why you think Voss can.
We need him. 12-0 clearances against us to start the match without him should be the only lesson we need to learn on that front. Hes more valuable than you think.
....and no its not just our mids making him look good either.
I saw about 2.5 quarters of this, working around the seniors, and just made my ins/outs for next week.
I've got Wilson coming in. Not because of the amount of possessions, because they were inflated somewhat by 1-2's, but more because of his kicking. I'm sick of Florent pinpointing opposition, so i'd do a swap between them. From what i can see, Wilson didn't have to do a lot of defending, so we'll see how that goes in the 1's. Charleson was a bit similar.....but there isn't anyones spot he looks close to taking yet.
Overall the boys did alright considering they had nobody up forward to kick too. Hewett shows he is too good for this level and deserves a recall
Tassies first ever loss in the VFL thanks to us. Happy to do that in the 1's in a couple years too.
Just thinking who from Saints is in need of a form lift....
Hmm Milera has been quiet. He will get 30 and kick 3 as an unchecked half back flanker
TDK is another one. We will make look like he is being paid unders.
Or will it be one of their small forwards who gets off the chain and kicks 5.
Nah rest assure Voss will have a plan this week how to curtail the matchwinners of the opposition
I need to stop.
Nothing surer that NWM will have a ball tearer and TDK will monster our ruckman. The former yet another example of what we dont have on our list, speed, poise, ball use.
Not surprising that 2 of the highest paid players in the game may cause us grief.
You think of that yourself did you Shawny? Gold star for you.
Also happens to be 2 players we have not a single matchup for on our list. But it'll be Vossys fault he doesn't have a unicorn ruck and an elite stoppage midfielder with pace to burn to play on these 2.
Honestly, i don't know if i'd want Harry back in this week. Give him an extra week just for $hits and giggles. Kemp+McGovern worked well together - 9 goals between them is about as good as you could hope for.
My changes for this week.... Wilson <-> Florent.....simply need better disposal F. Young <-> Byrne.....one needs a rest, one needs a gig. HOK <-> L.Young....Young is not the future, let HOK run around with TDK all day and learn something. Evans <-> Saad.....Frankie wasn't bad, but i'd like to inject a bit more run and chaos. Potential NWM matchup. O. Hollands <-> Cottrell.....one is fitter than the other. Cerra <-> Hewett....i think Cerra was cramping late (or a soft tissue injury) Hewett runs out the games better and has done his time.
Overall, that should give us more run and better disposal, despite being 'like for like' in a lot of ways.
If we are a bit cleaner going inside 50 and in front of goal, then that loss (and this one?) could be turned into a win pretty easily.
Overall, i expect about 1 of them to actually go ahead.....but thats what i'd do.
