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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: How does Crippa rank among the panoply of Carlton greats?
Quote from: PaulP – on
Quote from: tonyo – on
Agree, as good as Kouta was, he elite stuff only lasted for a relatively short period of time.

To be in the best 5 of the club, I reckon you need to have had a club-changing career, not just three or four seasons.   That puts many others in front of Kouta on the 'All Time' list.......

If we were only judging talent and impact, he rates pretty highly- but other names have had a longer-lasting and more profound effect on CFC.

Yes, when he was on there was no one better IMO. For comparison, he and Hird started and ended their careers at pretty much the same time, same age, similar number of games. I agree with your criteria, and judging by that, I would have Hird ahead of Kouta.

So Pendles is the best player ever then? He's played the most games?? More success by comparison.
Or should you give it to Michael Tuck, close to most games and most finals and GF's.

The greatest players can have reasons they didn't sustain that success.

Depends on your criteria at the end of the day.

I'm picking Kouta over just about any other player out there. He changed the game and what recruiters started looking for......for better or worse.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: How does Crippa rank among the panoply of Carlton greats?
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Kouta was amazing in top flight, but some of his ordinary games detract from his legacy.

Cripps...  I have to say, he has been bloody good and of his 250 games, I reckon less than 5% are bad ones.

2 x brownlow medallist puts him in Greg Williams territory, and the knock on his kicking doesnt really detract from his legacy.  He is in rare air, and dont ask me who Cripps goes past in the pantheon of Carlton greats, but he is easily in the top percentile.   If he jagged a flag as captain, then he would instantly become a top 5.

Kouta was unstoppable in full flight.....anywhere over the ground.
His 2000 year would be about the best year by anyone, ever......except Woewodin?  ::)

He averaged 6.3 clearances a game and 1.8 goals and 2.75 contested marks a game.

For the record, Harry has never had that many contested marks in any given year (2.6 CM/g)
Harry has only average more goals a game in 4 of his 10 years (1 year was only 1.83)
Cripps averages 7 clearances over his career, his 45 brownlow vote season, he averaged 8.

Kouta was able to match it with both, at the same time.

After the knee, he became 'ordinary' as he was a different player but reinvented his game and became a clearance beast.
In 2005 he averaged more clearances than anyone, including prime Judd and Kirk.

You could pick your starting 17 and whatever you had left, you could put Kouta into it, and he wouldn't be out of place.

So nobody comes close to Kouta for mine simply because he could do anything, and did.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 20 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast at Marvel
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Kemp is a good utility player being asked to perform a role he has performed for approximately less than 15 games at AFL level and is currently doing a pretty good job of it, with some warts on his game.

Give him some time to sort those out.  He is a reliable enough kick, its possibly the first time in his career he has a monkey on his back.  The fans jumping on him for lack of finishing wont help him, there is no reason he cant be our Jack Gunston.

Agreed.

Plenty of time for him to turn things around.

That doesn't mean he needs to play 1's every week until he does.
This kind of form is exactly why you drop players to the 2's to regain some confidence.
Problem is, we don't have anyone to bring in. Closest you could argue is Ison, and we already dropped him for similar reasons.

Kemp is a good player to have in your 23. Traditional utility player.
We just can't plan for him to be our FF for the next 7 years.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 20 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast at Marvel
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
Nick Austin take a bow again.... Pick 45 is 'burning it up!' About time we found a diamond in the back end of the draft, and Austin did it.

Never had an issue with the individuals he picked.......but any danger you could get a balanced list together?

Meanwhile we have Kemp up forward who is too scared to take a shot at goal......and Young who we've shopped around but nobody wanted.
Doesn't fill you with confidence in that area now does it.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 20 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast
Quote from: crashlander – on
Sorry, guys, I didn't do the threads this morning. I haven't been on the computer until now. I should have done them last night!

I can only offer my mist sincere apologies.

I guess I should be thankful that we won!

Don't apologise Crash....nobody expects you to do them. You've just taken it upon yourself for years to do it.

There is already a thread up and running through, Paul started it. ;)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 20 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast at Marvel
The trend of beating poor teams continues.

GC were very poor, despite being good in front of goal.

Kemp not only has the yips in front of goal, he is scared to even have a ping at them.
At least twice he passed to people in worst positions than him, just so he didn't have to shoulder the responsibility of taking a shot himself.
Someone needs to get him a shrink, quick.

Lewis Young looked better in the air than Harry does.....maybe it was the opposition?

Talor Byrne continues to make the extra step which results in laying the tackle, rather than just touching an opponent....and is getting rewarded.

I can't recall how many free kicks we got for holding the ball today, but i'd suggest its our season high.....and there was still a couple that they missed.

Harry Dean is playing with the experience of a 100 gamer. He'll be telling Weitering what to do if he ever returns. Exceeded all expectations. Today wasn't his best game either, but his opponent is about the toughest he'll ever face, so you take that.

Jagga can not touch the ball between now and the end of the year and still win the rising star. His poise and balance is elite. He'll win a brownlow someday. IMO, he's aready overtaken Walsh in the midfield heirarchy.
Jagga had equal most touches on the ground, and 2nd best disposal efficiency of the 46 players, despite having the 2nd most contested possessions in navy blue (behind Cripps of course)......and its effectively, his first year!


The young kids won us the game today IMO.