In 40 minutes, we scored 1 goal, opposition scored 3.3. Thankfully not kicking straight.
That was 1/3rd of the total game time. Why were we so poor? What was our pressure rating then?
Can't blame Voss for that one.
Or doesn't it count this week??
If we played Sydney or Brisbane instead of an injury riddled out of form doggies, it would've been a lot worse. Dogs last 5 games have included.... 2x 10 goal losses 1x 12 point loss to freo (was 14 points for us) 1x2 point win against Port. and a loss to us.
But it has nothing to do with their 'lack of' form, its all got to do with our interim coach.
Give it away. I see through your spin. Spin...spin...spin!!! You use that alot.
We played 4 qtrs for the first time in ages and kept up the pressure, eventually finishing on. Knowing when to play tempo footy as seen with 124 marks, rather than play on and boot it to a contest meant we didn't die on out butt and had plenty left. Better than winning well then collapsing on a weekly basis. Clutching at 3 goals in a row to say otherwise...hahaha. That happens every week to a number of sides. We were never more than 11pts behind. We do 5+ goals on a weekly basis. We took on a decent side and beat them, remembering we were 3rd last because of your favourite coach. You mightn't like the answer but bad luck. Try your spin on others.
I like how you can't answer any question directed to you.
Your default answer is 'spin' 'clutching at straws', 1-8, 12-40. You offer now analysis. No independent thought. Its all 'fake news' trump style misdirection.
Both myself and MBB have asked you repeatedly (and Shawny who is in the same boat) what we should expect this year now we've sacked the coach. How many wins we should get. etc. You say nothing.
If you wanna debate the merits of something, actually bring something to the table.
Obviously we would have beat the Lions had Voss not coached that game.
Might have worked a bit harder in that first half rather than pressure rating of 140 to 150.
In 40 minutes, we scored 1 goal, opposition scored 3.3. Thankfully not kicking straight.
That was 1/3rd of the total game time. Why were we so poor? What was our pressure rating then?
Can't blame Voss for that one.
Or doesn't it count this week??
If we played Sydney or Brisbane instead of an injury riddled out of form doggies, it would've been a lot worse. Dogs last 5 games have included.... 2x 10 goal losses 1x 12 point loss to freo (was 14 points for us) 1x2 point win against Port. and a loss to us.
But it has nothing to do with their 'lack of' form, its all got to do with our interim coach.
I thought the second half against Brisbane was basically similar to last night, just that last night we went at it a bit longer and didn't allow the Dogs to get the same run on. But a lot of it is Cripps, he has the most dominant game I've seen from him in two years, and was continually driving us forward even when we were wasting the footy.
Other than sticking with the plan better and longer, it was basically the same game tactics we've been trying to implement all season. I do find it odd that many only notice it now, after a win, they must be blinded by hatred at other times! To me it's been obvious we have been trying to implement a Lions style of play, I've been writing as much since about Rnd 3 or 4, just that we have been NBG at it!
I thought the young Dogs were not allowed the same degree of freedom, or were incapable of making the same space, that the Lions could.
If we were truly much better we should have won by 5 or 6 goals, I'm still a little disheartened by our tendency to limp to the end.
Not dropping off at any time during the 4 qtrs, not falling 8 goals behind like last week, not getting bowled over in the last half like other weeks. Just 4 qtrs. Might not have been a pretty 4 qtrs, as low scorers are, until the last qtr but we were able to keep going the whole game. Controlling tempo with uncontested marks at times, as 124 marks shows, left us with plenty of run when it mattered. We were smarter in that regard.
There was a period in the game where we'd kicked 1 goal in 45 minutes of football. They kicked 3.3 in that time.
If that was 5.1 or 6.0 goals instead, would that change your thought process?
Lord: was he taken off to be held over? 9 possessions and wasn't seen during the last quarter. (I only saw maybe 20 minutes). I presume Flynn Young is also held over.
Talor Byrne: not getting huge numbers, but 3 goals and making an impact.
I didn't hear Murphys suggestion, but if i was to guess at why he was suggesting it, it would be because its in bad taste. Dancing on the grave of Vossy.
I d suggest Murphy is in no position of credibility to lecture the Carlton Football club on bad taste...
I'm apathetic towards him.
Just trying to give potential insight as it appears to not be clear.
I didn't hear Murphys suggestion, but if i was to guess at why he was suggesting it, it would be because its in bad taste. Dancing on the grave of Vossy.
We know that we have been competitive in most games this year. A few have commented about what happens if we do run out this game and win it - with the implication that it was Voss' inability to change things around, only has one game plan.
What happens if we are blown away - is this a sign of Voss' ability to get the most out of a group, but Fraser can't?
So we rate the stand in coach in one game over a bloke who had 4 and half years???
So you don't rate the stand in coach already?
It must eat you up inside that he's basically gone with the same lineup that the incompetent bloke was going with.
Retiring blokes ahead of time, trading blokes for shiny new objects, simply creates the next batch of people who do a Jack Silvagni, Tom De Koning and Charlie Curnow.
WE as an organisation, need to prove that this is not a place for careers to come and die.
Yes, I believe we have a culture issue in the club too but it is coming from our leaders, not the rank & file.
Persisting with old players who are either past it or not playing to the level required (i.e. just don't give a feck) has a strong ripple effect too.
We kept gifting games to guys like Murphy & Gibbs when they didn't deserve it, everyone else became complacent & lived in the comfort zone.
Time to make a strong stand in this area.
Play some of the younger guys each week, give them 3-4 games and then back to the magoos, at the end of the season, the list management team will be in a much better position to make an informed decision.
You don't want older players. You complain about gifting games to younger players and cite Murphy and Gibbs.
So basically is you want a team full of blokes that deserve a game, where gun kids and aging players don't apply.......and you think these blokes are on the list???
