We did it for 4 qtrs the last 2 weeks. Before then, for half a game we were probably last for those measures each week. Fact is we were 1-8, now we are 3-8. That's the one measure that matters and executing those statistical measures much better.
....and if we played Dogs and Port every game we'd be 11-0.
Even im surprised with how quickly the old gameplan was changed and match day implemented with the same list.
Now do one that includes the last 3 games from Voss and compare that to Fraser. Will be just about identical.....as the previous posts pointed out, that you failed to acknowledge.
It's pretty despicable by the media to cause trouble by framing a negative narrative around Voss, then once he's gone they pivot and give him considerable credit. Shameful.
I'm expecting the opposite with Hird. Media pumping up his tyres, largely, then when he gets in the media will turn and say how could essendon bring him back after the heartache he caused......and never admitted fault for mind you!
I said similar in that i didnt think anything had changed between our Lions game and dogs game. Now Jagga backed that up in the post match interview And Stats back that up too.
Any people who wanted vossy sacked care to weigh in on these revelations?
Wright wanted him gone, senior players wouldn't play for him....ditto Scott at Essendon ....
Which senior players? The ones that left? The ones that were dropped? The ones he brought back into the 1's? The ones who almost won us the game against the lions?
They played pretty well for him while he was there at the end, just couldn't get over the line.
Over the last 6 weeks, No 1 ball movement team in the competition. No 1 scoring team out of their D50, 3rd most uncontested marks, use the 45 degree kick 3rd most in the competition.
I said similar in that i didnt think anything had changed between our Lions game and dogs game. Now Jagga backed that up in the post match interview And Stats back that up too.
Any people who wanted vossy sacked care to weigh in on these revelations?
The commentators were saying that Cody Walker was now on our VFL list and would now be playing in most games. Is that correct?
He's played....3-4 games now i think.
There was also talk a couple weeks ago that said they will let him go back and play some school and/or U18's games so he can play with some mates, as it'll likely be the last time he gets to do that again.
We had Moir, but that was about it. When we don't dominate in the middle, our structural issues become more apparent. And Moir has to up his workrate. God knows he can make a difference when he gets the ball. But he doesn't get the ball enough. Simple as that. We had Warburton at CHF, which shows how devoid of options we were.
Moir will be put on the trade table at seasons end.
He has the ability but not the grey matter and clearly doesn't want to work hard enough.
You don't trade Moir types. You won't get much for him, but if he puts it all together, he can make you look silly for a decade afterwards.
Best we keep him. He'll kick you a goal a game relatively easily, which should not be overlooked, even if his potential is to get you 2 goals a game.
1. Playing Harry as second ruck/forward. Coincidentally his best two games this year have been the last two. 2. More on ball time for Smith. 3. Clear directive to hold the ball until better options emerge. Less hack kicks forward. 4. Selection of kids over veterans. No Saad, Acres, Young. Big roles given to kids like Dean. Clearly some have had their cards marked. 5. Selection of Ison who looks like a very accomplished player. 6. Selection of kids like Billy who kick hard, flat and through the corridor. 7. Timely return to form of senior players and Hewitt back in seniors. 8. Playing struggling sides who we really should be beating regardless of who is coaching.
1. This has occured previously under Voss. Voss actually started it with making Harry 2nd ruck against the Lions. Harrys 2nd half against the Lions started this return to form. He was BOG against the Lions by fantasy points. 2. Smith has been given more on ball time recently, but also got plenty at the start of the year. I expect him to be in and out simply to manage his minutes and not break him. Can't expect essentially a 1st year player to play a full year on the ball. 3. Hard to quantify. Didn't see much difference between Lions and Dogs efforts 4. Young was dropped by Voss. Acres hasn't been picked all year. Saad has barely played all year. 5. Definitely got his first go under Fraser. Was borderline being picked in the few weeks leading up to it. 6. Vossy picked Wilson against the Lions. 7. Vossy brought Hewett back against the Lions. 8. Almost beat the lions. Played the same way since and have been beating poorer sides as a result.
I've got no issue with what Freser is doing, but he is getting a lot of credit for doing things which were actually done by Vossy first. Week 1 vs Dogs - 1 forced change In: Ison Out: Saad (inj) Week 2 vs Port - 2.5 forced changes In: Derkson, Young, Byrne Out: Weitering (inj), O. Hollands (inj) Williams (managed)
As with what Jagga said after the game, not a whole lot has changed under Fraser. The boys played well against the Lions and have continued playing that way.
I dont think there has been any drastic changes thats occured in the last couple weeks.
I'm sure the anti Voss brigade will think it's a load of s h i t.
One of Vossy's first innovations was to give our key forwards licence to help out in the backline whenever they felt it was necessary. McGovern does just that last night and it's a genius move by Fraser
The best thing i like about Fraser 'genius move' is how he managed to get Charlie doing it over the last 2 years. Now THAT is genius.
Fraser was coaching the last couple of years yeah?
Anyhow the one thing beyond dispute is the changes in game plan use of ball going into 50, lowering the eyes, lower kicks kicking to advantage and keeping control of the ball out of defensive 50. the predictable long kicks to the wings are not anywhere near as common as they were.
Agreed
Game plan or ball use?
I commented very early on in the game that we'd sold our soul midweek for the ability to kick. In the first half it was accurately at goal and accurately to the leading forward.
At one stage i think we were going 15% KE ABOVE the norm. Elite of the elite levels. Thats not game plan.
Clearly in the 2nd half all that went out the window. So does that mean the game plan failed in the 2nd half.
Personally i think we just got a bit 'lucky' early on with our kicking and came back to the pack like normal from there.
Commentating - honestly, does the league nor TV stations not care one iota about professionalism? The amount of talent chomping at the bit to be footy commentators and we are left with a parochial Adelaidean and the recent ex coach of our opposition. I heard more about Butters being half back than I did about the entirety of our team and performance.
This is not just bias, it is unprofessional. Sick Of these old guys commentating games when there is young talent wanting to do it but get no look in.
The best commentators around today, and yesteryear, and even going bac to the black and white days.....were from NON-footballing commentators. Yet, currently, there is the least amount of non-football commentators as ever, despite having more commentators than ever.
For mine, Huddo, Howie, Whately and even Brayshaw are among the best current commentators. Previously, Bruce and Commetti were unparalleled.
Jagga Smith giving credit to Vossy for setting up the foundations for the wins tonight and not playing very different apart from playing 4 quarters. Said he was shattered for Vossy.
