It always amazes me that definitive judgements are made on 19 year olds.
Who is making definitive judgements?
Ignoring everything about the individual player and just looking at where they are drafted, thats the conclusion you will come too. Later picks and rookie picks will struggle to make it.
Now back to the players, have they shown anything at this stage to buck that trend? Not really, they are showing about what their draft value suggests. They might make it. They might not.
Yes and no. The locals couldnt compete with over seas because we weren't buying it. Correct?
We can be talking about a million different things, but somewhat correct.
I guess my point was the government made the call when they found it easier to NOT subsidise the industry......all our industries. Now its come back to bite us on all fronts.
I don't think we got them at a bargain, i think we got them about right....maybe even a touch early.
Take away their last name.....and is the hype justified? Is their output above average? Nothing against the kids, but once you are at the club, you don't get done any favours.
They are around the 30-35 mark in terms of talent on our list......which is about where you'd expect based on where they were drafted.
I had a look at the Saintsational voting for the games so far. Tom had the second most votes in the Collingwood game-45 under their system Nothing against Melbourne and only a handful against GWS to this stage, but they haven't finished voting yet.
But that first game gained him enough that he's probably in the top 4-5 at the moment on their voting. Hall, Sinclair and Wilkie are ahead of him, Windhager and NWM around the same
So, basically 1 game gets you top 4-5 after 3 games?? Wow, they are worse than i thought.
Sorry, 3 Leos, but I do not believe we have a revolving door of people who want out. The only best 25 or so blokes who wanted out were TDK and Charles. Nothing we could do about TDK considering the massive financial from the Aints to set him up for life.
Yes, we've learned that it was not ideal in the locker room last year, but I'm more than confident that any ructions are being dealt with, if not already dealt with.
Is that right?
More want to leave us than stay recently as far as im concerned.
...and i believe that last statement is the problem.
Firstly, i take it you dont mean that literally. Its clear more people re-signed with the club last year conpared to players who wanted out. On any given year about 1/3 to 1/2 your list is out of contract.
Secondly, How many players have actually wanted to leave? This year 3. We also pushed a couple.
In the last couple years, who wanted out? Keeping in mind we pushed a couple too.
Weitering signed up last year, walsh this year. They could name their price if they left, but they didn't.
From the stabbing/murder i posted a page back i got some more information from locals.
The original 14/15yo victim was beaten pretty badly to the point where he may not make it, and certainly won't be back at school this year. The 4 15-18yo's who attacked him all went to the same school (or at least did - may have left) This also included 1 female. The 22yo who came to the victims aid originally was followed by the attackers after the initial attack and followed him back to his car where they all took turns stabbing him, and continued to stab him well after he was dead. They did a real number on him. They were all high in ice.
It really makes you second guess whether you should come to someones aid if thats going to be the outcome......but i guess that is half the point.
