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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: How does Crippa rank among the panoply of Carlton greats?
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Kouta’s best was right up there. The problem is there isn't enough of it.
Agree, as good as Kouta was, he elite stuff only lasted for a relatively short period of time.

To be in the best 5 of the club, I reckon you need to have had a club-changing career, not just three or four seasons.   That puts many others in front of Kouta on the 'All Time' list.......

If we were only judging talent and impact, he rates pretty highly- but other names have had a longer-lasting and more profound effect on CFC.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: How does Crippa rank among the panoply of Carlton greats?
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When you think about the rubbish he has put up with, the fact that he basically never misses a game, all the personal awards, captaincy etc, he is IMO indisputably in top 5 greatest CFC players.

It's really quite a remarkable thing to watch a genuine champion of the club ply their trade in real time. Not stories from old timers about players from past decades, not grainy, low res b/w footage on YouTube, not history books, but the actual lived experience of watching one of the greats. Hopefully we all cherish these moments and never take them for granted.
So who's your top 5 Pauly? (IMO our top 10 to 15 would smash the top 5 of most clubs, we have been blessed over the journey)
I'll weigh in on this one, I've been going to games since the mid 60's.....

5:   Stephen Kernahan - a clutch leader and absolutely bleeds Navy Blue (still).

4:   Bruce Doull - I honestly believe he was the prototype of the modern defender.  Rarely beaten and always full-throttle.   

3:   Patrick Cripps - don't have to say any more.  Agree with the observation that he has had to carry the team (so did Nicholls in his early years).

2:   Alex Jesaulenko - could play anywhere and do absolutely mind-boggling things, and he didn't play the game until he was 14!

1:   John Nicholls - an absolute colossus.  His value to the team went far beyond disposals, tap-outs and goals.  He was truly feared by the opposition.

I reckon this sub-topic deserves its own thread!

Honorable mentions to Judd and Diesel (although they arrived at Princes Park as already-acknowledged champions).  And a little begrudgingly, SOS.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 20 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast at Marvel
Sadly, we keep 'giving away' players because we think they won't work in our team, and they become solid contributors for other sides.....

M.Kennedy
J.Martin
Durdin
Stocker
Holman

I am therefore very loathe to consign Brodie Kemp to the scrap heap.

He has now played 67 games, only 25 or so of those as a forward.  He has regularly been the lone marking target in the F50 during that time with big absences from Curnow and McKay last year, so he has often drawn the best defender.  Tough way to learn the craft as a mid-sized forward.

Once he finally gets his shot as the third banana (which is about where his size demands he should play), I think you might find he will become very dangerous.   Of course, we need to recruit another first or second banana at the end of the season......

Personally, I think he should play a little further up the ground so that we don't have a half-forward line of midgets every week.  He could be very useful as the lead-up half-forward.  He's got good hands and is actually a pretty good field kick - it's the sticks that paralyse him right now.

If we sacked every player who developed the yips in front of goal, we wouldn't have many left.  Even our superstar captain hasn't got that bit right.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
OK, now it's time to find out about our list before we get out the axe at the end of the year.

Next week, swap Kemp and Derksen.  We badly need a second marking option in F50, and besides, Kemp just cannot kick for goal.  Derksen played a lot of forward time for GWS seconds.  Kemp can play in defence.

Bring in Camporeale boys, even Charleson.

Play Riley.

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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Hmm, breaking today, Trump says he has evidence claiming current voting system is 'flawed and vulnerable'.  Amazing how the President's Intelligence Advisory Board found these 'intelligence' reports about China influencing the 2020 election, and are about to release them so the 'public can understand just how vulnerable we are'.  

All of this comes just as the Orange One is trying to introduce changes to the voting system so he can minimise the wipeout in the mid-term elections.

Of course, none of this was ever mentioned during the innumerable lawsuits seeking evidence of voter fraud.

If nothing else, they are truly getting desperate. 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG
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Lord can't go with Daicos.  Not many can.

Surprised they bring in Lord with Hewett in.  Even if Cerra goes back to the wing we lack a bit of pace.

Maybe Hewett will be a late out and Flynn Young comes in to play the Jack Ison role.

Disappointed they have dropped Holland but can understand why.    Just hope they play him in the same role in the VFL and not as an inside mid.

Don't think Reidy has done much right all year, and his inclusion must be based on trackwork and a little bit of hope.

I've suggested this before (possible last time we played them) but i'd like to see Cottrell go to Daicos. He has the tank. He adds agression which Naicos doesn't like. Would get inside his head.

Worth a shot IMO.
Let's face facts, we have nothing else to lose.  Daicos will get 30 touches no matter what we do.  The aim of the exercise is to not let those possessions provide many results.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 18 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
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Riley looked okay but it was disappointing that the coach didn't trust him enough to start the final three quarters in the ruck.
I thought that was a big mistake.  It robbed our forward line of any height to at least compete, it meant part-timer Harry was up against a seasoned ruckman, and we were on the back foot in each quarter.

The other thing that was obvious was the difference in skill level.  We went for some ridiculous handpasses and kicks that would even be difficult to execute in the dry, and turnovers killed us.   Hawthorn are the best wet-weather team in the game, and put the ball into dangerous positions when going forward using wet-weather smarts.  It's like our lot have never seen rain before. 

Unfortunately, it seems we are still miles off the pace.  Imagine if Watson, Battle, Weddle had played.

At least now we will find out if Fraser can coach - if he can get them up for next week, 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 17 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
We should have hit time-on in the last quarter with a 30 point lead, then the last 2 minutes is no longer a raffle.

Have to learn to take the chances that are offered and bury teams, and do so from the first bounce.

This game was so similar to the Essendon one - we didn't turn up to start either of them, and found ourselves 3 goals down against cellar-dwellers.  So you end up playing a game in 3 quarters, with a 3-goal penalty.  That makes both wins look better than the score suggests.

My worry is we cannot play the MCG all that well.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Run Home
If Freo are 2 games clear on top at Round 24, they will rest half of their team rather than risk injury.  Maybe an unexpected W.

Surprised the predictor has us losing to both the Saints and the Dogs - pretty sure we win one of those at least.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Hmm...

Today, the Supreme Court blocked the Trump Administration's attempts to fire Lisa Cook from the Federal Reserve Board until the case of her mortgage fraud had been finalised (as farcical as these charges are).

With her removed, Trump would effectively have full control over monetary policy, especially interest rate movements which would then become political rather than economy-based decisions, especially as he tries to regain ground before the mid-terms,

In response to the decision, Trump said on Truth Social they would continue to push for the removal of Cook, adding


“We will take appropriate action immediately to make sure that someone who has committed wrongdoing will not be making vital decisions concerning the Welfare of the United States of America!”

Pot, kettle, black!  

The next few months leading up to November are going to be mind-boggling, as the Orange one tries desperately to avoid a wipeout.  Get ready for some even more outrageous attempts to pervert democracy.