We have the last two premiers over the next fortnight, who are currently sitting 1 and 2 on the ladder.
After that, we'll know whether there is even a spark left.
Can't believe how brittle we have become this year. One thing to target when recruiting is to target some players with a bit of backbone. We have too many invertebrates in our team.
We don't need a full rebuild. We can turn this around for next season if we make the right moves.
Totally agree. But we need to find better foot soldiers. And create a development plan that produces better foot soldiers.
I think Voss's big error is he is putting too much hope in the fact that a handful of A-Graders can constantly drag the whole team over the line.
Once you get past our top 10, we are very poor.
I've seen this before with coaches who were gun players themselves (apart from a couple of exceptions like Barassi and Matthews) - they never get the best out of the average list players, because they don't understand the mind-set needed to be a role player in a team.
That's why the coaches with the best record are often average footballers who had to work so hard to get a kick and think far more about the game - Hardwick, Clarkson, Beveridge, the Scotts, even Malthouse, Pagan and Hafey.
They know exactly what it takes for a role-player to be effective in a team, and they structure that way.
We will never be a serious challenger while we have superstars surrounded by spuds - who end up being the weakest link. The spuds don't turn into chips, and the superstars get increasingly disenchanted.
When we run and carry, we look a bit like a team. When we go backwards and forwards across the D50 arc, it looks more like orienteering than football. Comedy capers.
Very flattered by the final margin - North went to sleep after they completely outplayed us for 2 quarters. .
You would not want to be a Carlton forward, the delivery is appalling.
Season is cooked, so time to spend the rest of the year giving some young ones a go. If we front up to 2026 with this same batch, it will be another wasted year.
Binns - sad to say, just not up to it.... Durdin - list clogger Doc - time has come Pitto - the team is unbalanced with him and TDK in the one team. He plays like a ruckman from the 70s.
Charlie - at least look like you're have a crack, body language is appalling. Could not chase a paper bag blowing in the wind.
Crippa - needs a rest.
Another season down the gurgler, and it's not even July. I was sitting in the Member's section, and the natives are getting very restless.
O'Farrell looks a cut above in the twos. I would be using him in lieu of McGovern in defence, with MMcG playing a high half-forward role to give us a bit of aerial presence around the wings.
Ben C deserves a run as well, probably ahead of Will W.
I don't think we're taking the foot off, we are getting run over every week. It's a fitness issue.
I don't think we run out of gas so much - it's just that we have very little speed in the first place, and once teams get a running game going against us, we have almost no counter-punch.
I get so mad watching our forwards guarding grass and letting opposition defenders have unpressured disposal and room to run. Our forward half pressure is almost non-existent, and we invite running teams to have a crack at us.
Get up in their grills and challenge them to kick better when someone's actually turning the screw on them, instead of pointing fingers and pretending you can cover 3 guys that you are 20 metres away from.
There needs to be some serious remedial classes on hitting targets by hand and foot - we are our own worst enemy. The round-the-back game plan doesn't help either - it is only ever one mis-kick away from a slingshot goal to the opposition.
I think O'Keefe showed more than enough to be persisted with. His long shot at goal in the last quarter didn't miss by much, and he does seem to have good hands.
The two key players for me were Silvagni and Hollands.
Weather looks like this will be a bit of a slog - just our luck, up against a side with big issues in the back half, but a wet game will minimise our chances of exploiting this.
Got an ugly feeling this is going to be one of those 9 goals to 6 kinda games - just hope we're the 9......
If this debate makes someone feel depressed, hopeless or disillusioned it not the fault of the topic, the right emotion to feel would be anger at how you're being grifted for profit with no real hope of achieving a solution from any one strategy.
We need orders of magnitude more emissions reduction, every strategy should be running in parallel.
It doesn't help when the so-called leader of the free world, the current POTUS, is the biggest grifter this planet has ever seen.
I'm sure Donald thinks that altruism is a gangster from Chicago......!
It is pretty hard to find reports/reviews/predictions that are not tainted by an agenda linked to current and ongoing profits.
If I hear any politician/think-tanker/lobbyist talking in this matter, the first question I ask is 'whose pocket are they in'? Even parts of the scientific community are 'up for sale', provided they are prepared to deliver the right conclusions. And yes, there are pockets on both sides of the climate change equation.
The only thing that is certain about our world - the almighty dollar will always be the most powerful motive.
One thing I am certain of, the 'altruistic' Petroleum and Mining industries are never doing what they do for the good of the planet. They have huge money to fund massive disinformation/denial/fear-mongering campaigns designed to make us believe we have no option but to continue buying their products, regardless of what it does to the environment. It's reminiscent of the tobacco industry who spent millions trying to deny/deflect/disinform the world that their products were directly linked to health problems.
Put it this way, if we sit in circles talking about this for the next 20 years, it may be too late. If we cook this joint because we were too obsessed with profits and not prepared to listen to scientific fact (not opinions!), we may have no way back.
We are at the age of another disruptive change in the way the world works (much like the Industrial Age changed things 250 years ago), and not surprisingly, not everyone is all that happy about it.
Personally, I read scientific papers and look at the affiliations of the authors - reputable articles will always print where any funding came from. But you always need to consider anything you read with a jaundiced eye, because chances are someone, somewhere wants the conclusion to concur with their world view.
I don't think it's just the kicking of our mids into the forward line, you also need to consider what sort of options the forwards are giving them. Charlie and Harry's main play is to point one hand in the air like the Statue of Liberty and wrestle - hardly a commanding presence. They've become accustomed to slow entry and seem to almost have given up providing regular leads. Charlie in particular is looking pretty lazy of late - if he doesn't get the ball, he basically gives up.
Our small forwards are dumb - they offer leads when they're too slow to get ahead of their opponent, and they're not all that strong overhead anyway, and in the end they are not underneath the pack where they should be.
Of course, it would help if our F50 entries didn't mostly consist of slow-entry 50m kicks which defenders just love....... oh for some half backs and outside mids who can run, bounce and kick......
We will never be a serious threat until we get some speed into our game and dispose of the ball more cleanly. Our half-back line is about as smooth moving as lava.
Our clear target for recruitment should be outside run and ball skills, both of which are sadly sub-par at Ikon Park.
And stop playing dud small forwards who have been consistently found wanting. When I watch Bobby Hill, Kysiah Pickett, Nick Watson, Tyson Stengle etc go to work, it makes me want to spew. That is the missing ingredient - we consistently win inside 50s but get minimal return for the effort.
I'm not sure if I believe the reports, but segments of the US media are claiming he gets to keep the Saudi plane when his term ends, I might have to change the RedTrump label to The Kleptocrat!
I believe that the 747 is meant to be a personal gift that the Kleptocrat in Chief intends to loan to the US government while he is POTUS.
The junior Kleptocrats are filling their boots too and there’s not a peep from those who were screaming about Hunter Biden 🙄
Not reported all that widely, but at the same time the Qataris have given Donald a plane, the Trump Organisation have agreed to build a luxury golf resort there, as well as another partnership to build a Trump Tower in Jeddah.
The POTUS is doing a great job of using his office to further his personal interests. I bet the MAGA-cap wearers are going to benefit greatly (NOT!).
He is basically on a government-sponsored business trip, and he can change the rules to suit himself with the stroke of a Sharpie.
This is truly corruption of the highest order.
One day, when people are no longer scared of him, the whole story is going to come out. I hope I live long enough to see that.
Buddy deal was done 12 months prior to him leaving Hawthorn.....Judd deal was also done very early, I wonder if TDK has done something similar and we are just seeing a bit of free agent theatre until seasons end.
I have had the feeling for a while that his decision is made. What's the benefit of waiting until the end of the year? It's harder on him with all the speculation than to announce it now (ie re-signing). He knows the offer, he knows his role at Carlton, he knows his team mates and the club intimately, It is for these reasons that I think he will leave. It was interesting to read Motlop's interview in the HS (indigenous jumper and Sir Doug Nicholls Round launch). He talked about wanting to be a one Club player and wants to stay at Carlton. He said how he lives with Jack Carroll who has given him an insight into StK, it infers that has reinforced his desire to stay at Carlton. For Tom I guess the 1.7M reasons would trump a crap coach, crap environment and crap culture.
I reckon the Aints can't commit to 1.7 for TDK until they know what Wanganeen Milera is doing. And we won't put our final $ on the table until it's clear the 1.7 is real.
The other unknown is the post-footy 'offerings' that might be floating about - subject to him finishing his career in Navy Blue, of course......
