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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Election 2025 (Poll added)
We have seen some unsavoury incidents involving most, if not all, political persuasions during this campaign.  However, the reality is that they are few and far between.

I have voted in every Commonwealth, State and Local Government election since 1971 in Labor, Liberal, Country Party and swinging electorates.  I have never witnessed any shenanigans at polling stations.  On the contrary, the party and independent volunteers have usually been relaxed and in good spirits.  It’s not uncommon to see volunteers or candidates chatting lightheartedly with their opposite numbers.

The debates between Albo and Dutton may not have been inspiring or entertaining but they were notable for the respectful manner in which both participants handled themselves.  In fact, while Albo and Dutton may have opposing political stances, they are mates.

We may complain about the quality of our politicians and our system of government, but we shouldn’t complain about the manner in which our system functions.  It’s a bit like spectators at our footy matches; there will be banter but it’s generally good-natured and rarely escalates.

It would be a tragedy if footy crowds had to be segregated and it would be a disaster if our elections were marred by violence and hate.

For that reason, I hope that the courts come down hard on everyone from the cyclist who attacked the Palmer supporter to the 17 year old who punched the old fellow … and even harder on the neo-nazi scumbags.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Election 2025 (Poll added)
Well said Lods!

A minor correction; the student who attempted to assassinate Calwell used a sawn-off .22 rifle.  He fired through the window of Calwell’s car, the bullet was deflected and Calwell was injured by shards of glass.

Apparently, the student was motivated more by a desire to emulate the spate of political assassinations that had occurred around the world.  He chose Calwell because of his opposition to conscription and the Vietnam War.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Election 2025 (Poll added)
Just to round things out, a cyclist kicked and punched a Strumpet of Patriarchy volunteer at a Pakenham pre-polling station.  The cyclist's political affiliation, if any, isn't known but his comments indicate that he is opposed to Palmer's policies on migration and multiculturalism.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL 2025 Rd 6 Carlton vs Coburg at Coburg
It’s the Vicki Cleary Day match and I hope there’s a good crowd.

I knew Vicki and her death was a tragedy exacerbated by a failure of our justice system.

Well done to Coburg for their ongoing support for this very worthwhile cause, but there’s no room for sentiment on the footy field so go Blues!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
At the 20 minute mark of the last quarter both Weiters and McGov were waving their arms and yelling out to Charlie to come back, even the crowd around me, level one Carltonians Bay joined in calling out for Charlie, he duly came back. So Charlie doesn't decide, he's called back by Weiters, we were there we saw it

 Charlie may get a call to go into defence but Vossy has stated that Charlie can and does decide if and when he should go into defence.

The coaches didn’t want Charlie in defence in the last quarter and sent him back to the forward line.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2025 Pre Game Carlton v Adelaide in Adelaide
CARLTON

In: L.Young, L.Cowan, S.Docherty
Out: J.Silvagni (hand), Z.Williams (calf), M.Cottrell (ankle)

Don’t mind the ins but at least one of our defenders will have to play a different role. Perhaps Carroll will be the sub 🤔

I don’t really want see Ollie Hollands back on the wing.  I’m sure that he’d do well but he has become an important part of our defensive group.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Was behind the goals on level 2 city end of the ground.

Weitering late in the second was jumping up and down waiving his hands in the air to bring Charlie back into defense for the remaining few mins.

Besides that, happy with what they are doing to change things up.  I think a few mins of swinging Charlie back is warranted at times, if nothing else to keep the opposition guessing.  Do they hold the line?

Do they push a number forward (the second they do, we can tell Charlie to run off, creating a situation where they might have been happier having a loose man behind the ball).

Its good stuff, and im neither here nor there.  A goal resets everything due to the 6.6.6 rules.

As I understand it, Charlie is free to help out in defence whenever he likes.  Even if he's not taking intercept marks, his presence in the defensive 50 will make the opposition unsure of their delivery inside 50; do they kick it to Cameron if Charlie has the sit on him?

While "Charlie to the backline" is a spontaneous move, the seven defenders all in the backline together must be a practised scenario.   As you say, one of them has to make up one of the other sixes if there's a goal, and that has to be planned, not random.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Election 2025 (Poll added)
The latest election shenanigans:

Neo-nazis wearing crude Hasidic Jew costumes turned up at pre-polling station in Kew and handed out pamphlets with a manipulated Liberal Party logo and anti-Semitic messages.  The pamphlets were also widely distributed to homes across Caulfield.  Election billboards for both Labor and Liberal candidates were defaced with red Stars of David.  The pamphlets are authorised by Joel Davis, a prominent neo-nazi who incited violence against Jewish people from the steps of Victoria’s Parliament House and who is out on bail in South Australia for displaying a Nazi symbol. 

While it is unlikely that the pamphlets and pre-polling station antics will have any bearing on the election, State Liberal MP David Southwick is spot on with his statement; “Let me be crystal clear: this is not politics. This is hate. And it has no place in our community.”

In other news, on Tuesday, witnesses reported a man in a Collingwood jumper lobbing an estimated half-dozen eggs at the One Nation candidate and his supporters as they handed out how-to-vote cards at the Wills pre-polling station in Brunswick.  Sitting Labor member for Wills, Peter Khalil, has had his posters defaced with "Zio Dog", "Fully Cooked" and other slogans.  Activists are unhappy with Khalil for what they say is his lack of action on climate change and the conflict in Gaza.  Khalil could lose his seat to the Greens and, in this case, the vandalism and pre-polling station tensions could impact the outcome.

Finally, activists have gone to a lot of trouble to vandalise a Clive Palmer billboard in Brunswick.  It now reads "Vote 0 Rump Riot”, with cartoon buttocks pasted over Palmer’s face, and "nonsense solutions to reduce the living."

All of these incidents are corroborated by several sources and backed up by photographs and video.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
An interesting observation from the bench cam footage.

Charlie had moved himself into defence late in the last quarter.  Carroll was on the bench and Greaves instructed him to go back on, tell Charlie to go back to the forward line, and ensure that all seven defenders were in defence. 

While Charlie’s ability to go back and pluck a mark in defence has been game saving, our priority was to have the seven defenders working together as a unit and as they have been drilled.

It’s interesting that Aaron Greaves is the bench coach now. 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2025 Pre Game Carlton v Adelaide in Adelaide
Adelaide really only has Thilthorpe as a tall forward but Walker and Fogarty will have at least 10kg on most of our taller defenders if we don’t play Young.

Jack Silvagni has been outstanding with his ability to play on tall and medium forwards and to set up our transition from defence.  Young isn’t a like for like replacement but neither are Doc and Moo, and we’d be quite undersized with either of them replacing Jack in our defensive seven.

I think I’d like to see Young on Thilthorpe, Weitering freed up to control our transition and Cowan to come in for Carroll.  Not that Jeff has been poor but Moo can play taller and is a bit harder.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Election 2025 (Poll added)
@DJC  its not about giving up, its about seeing all this crap for what it is.

That is, its designed to ellicit a response.  In this day and age, with no footage, and some flaky online articles, not susbstantiated on TV is all you need to consider.

IF you want me to believe it all, I will, but it matters nought what I believe.  The MAGA hat is perhaps the single most useless bit of information out of all this stuff.

Make America Great Again has nothing to do with us, and is as tenuous a link to what happens if you vote red (or in our case blue) as it gets.

You can choose to ignore what’s before your eyes or put any spin on factual reporting if that suits your agenda. 

It is a fact that a 79 year old man wearing a MAGA hat was punched out by a 17 year old boy  after the older fellow knocked over ALP signs at a pre-polling station.  It is also a fact that the 79 year old was hospitalised and the 17 year old is in custody and will appear in the Children’s Court.

A friend of mine has a MAGA and wears it when he wants to take the p1ss.  The 79 year old may have been taking the p1ss too but the fact that he was kicking ALP signs over suggests otherwise.

It’s interesting that you’re focusing on the MAGA hat.  I would have thought that the actions of the 17 year old are more significant.

Similarly, the actions of the Monique Ryan supporter who threw a punch at the right wing protesters are more significant than the protests.

But, yes, it’s all propaganda cooked up by a bunch of conspirators from most of the political parties, independents, so-called eye witnesses, police, the AEC, hospital staff, and the media, both mainstream and social media influencers and podcasters. 
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Election 2025 (Poll added)
Long serving psephologist and the Australian Broadcasting Corporation's chief election analyst, Antony Green, will be pulling the pin after this election.  Election night won’t be the same without him … but it’s all probably just social media propaganda intended to influence our voting 🤣
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Election 2025 (Poll added)
OK Thry, I give up!

There wasn’t a 79 year old in a MAGA cap kicking over ALP signs.  He wasn’t punched out by a 17 year old.  The 17 year old isn’t in custody and he won’t be appearing in the Children’s Court tomorrow.  The whole incident was made up by the media for nefarious purposes and, as a result, people are going to change their votes.  The other incidents reported didn’t happen either 🙄

FYI, you vote early at a pre-polling station and children are processed through the Children’s Court without delay.