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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Kevin Sheehan's AFL footballers' key attributes:
1. Clean hands (as in ball handling rather than hygiene).
2. Good disposal by hand and foot on both sides.
3. Sufficient athleticism - at least one of speed, agility and endurance.
4. Footy nous.
5. Positive attitude - great teammate, great self-belief and having great fun playing footy.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: Thryleon – on
No one is negative about the boys.  Lucas pushed himself to the edge against hawthorn and ben hasn't even had a chance yet.  Pressure is off them this year.  Next year they'll need to be establishing their credentials, they just have to show they can compete at the level this year for mine.
I agree with all that except the "pressure off" aspect, I think the alleged expectations of their old man pile on the pressure unnecessarily. Of course the rumours might be bullsh1t, but if they aren't he's calling for a position of privilege that demands a level of performance.

I'd much rather they are eased into it, which is another good argument for bigger lists, but if the rumours are true he probably wouldn't accept them getting a lower paycheque. ::)

Scott is an experienced coach who would fully understand the pressures on young players and the intense competition for spots in an AFL team.  I’m pretty sure that he would also understand that parental interference and/or commentary won’t help.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Quote from: Adelaideblue – on
Understand the point you are making DJC & LP re how other recruiters rated Ben & Lucas for them to fall to picks 43 & 45, although I wonder if the fact that we held F/S rights wasn't a factor.

Not sure why they should be better suited back here at Port EB. Guess you are saying they are the type of player Port needs in their mix with Boaky gone. However, hopefully if given a reasonable chance we will find they are a "need' here!

Sometimes I wonder why as supporters we have to be so negative on young players who have hardly been looked at.  These guys, their family members must sometimes read this negativity. If so you we shouldn't be surprised if they do decide to go back from where they have come.  Why poke the bear with a stick? 
As has been said "Carlton supporters devour their own", if true not very smart. As supporters we are part of the fabric of a football club and need to play our part for the club to have success.

Well I guess I got that off my ...back !!
cheers AB

I think that it's more a matter of patience and realism than negativity AB.

I'd much rather see Ben and Lucas taking their time, building strength and endurance, and learning the ropes than being dropped in at the deep end. Lucas has had a taste and showed that he wasn't out of place.  Ben would have had his taste but for a suspension and his time will come.

From their changed physiques, training footage, and their teammates comments, they've both worked hard over the off-season.  Let's see how they go when the VFL kicks off,
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Quote from: Adelaideblue – on
Can't understand all the negativity on Ben and Lucas Camporeale.  Come on guys give them a chance.!

 The fact that their dad Scott Camporeale, an accomplished footballer for Carlton went off to Essendon near the end of his playing career, is no reflection on the boys and their potential. Good luck to Scott, he only did what many on this site have been suggesting for Paddy Cripps, ie. we should trade him back to a Perth club.  Also, I don't hear many ethical complaints when we trade in players from other AFL clubs.

Both Ben and Lucas were good under 18 players for SA with Ben making All Australian.
Ben Camporeale was unlucky not to have played a game or two last season.  The moment Paddy Cripps goes down with an injury, Ben could be just the guy we need in midfield imo.

If Carlton FC  can't develop these two guys to reasonable AFl players, we haven't much future as a football club.

You can’t “develop” players to run faster, think quicker, and execute better.  We can make them fitter, teach them positioning, and eliminate bad habits.

Ben and Lucas were picks 43 and 54, and that doesn’t guarantee a successful career, regardless of any development.

I think that both Ben and Lucas have the potential to be decent AFL players, they wouldn’t have been drafted if they didn’t.  Their success will depend more on their attitude and determination than anything the club can do, other than offering them opportunity and guidance.

They’ve got the capacity, but there’s more than a few ahead of them at this stage.

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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Don't get carried away with the media hype about ONP.  It boils down to around 140,000 voters moving from centre-right to right and far right and that gives Labor a virtually unassailable majority.

The SA Electoral Commission is incredibly slow given the relatively small size of the electorate and it seems that it will be a while before the final results are known.  In the commission's defence, three-cornered contests always make it harder to determine which candidate's preferences are distributed.  At this stage Labor has a whopping 32 seats with eight seats still in doubt.  Such a puny opposition isn't really conducive to good government but Premier Malinauskas and Treasurer Koutsantonis both made the right noises about hubris and arrogance.  Time will tell.

It will be interesting to follow the Liberals' response.  On election night there was talk of reclaiming the centre, doing more to counter the rejection by female voters, and reducing the influence of non-parliamentary powerbrokers.  Again, time will tell.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Quote from: Thryleon – on
What im high lighting is until we address the revolving door of why people want out, we arent going to achieve much.

Free agency is a powerful financial incentive to change clubs but over the last decade only two of our players have exercised free agency.

In fact, in that time only two players - Gibbs and Curnow - have sought clearances to other clubs.  Tuohy, Phillips, Petrevski-Seton, Setterfield, Fisher, Kennedy and Owies were put on the trade table and Jones "retired" for philosophical reasons.

Four players wanting out over the last decade is hardly a revolving door.  On the flip side, we had Ainsworth, Chesser, Reidy and Khamis all wanting to come to Carlton last off season, as well as two FS and NGA prospects nominating us.  Apart from the Khamis trade not getting done, the Western Bulldogs have had seven players exercise free agency or successfully seek clearances in the last four years.
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The Sports Desk / Re: Track and Field
Quote from: Lods – on
A post from Torrie Lewis.

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A bit weird to post this 1.5 years later, but today I got the news that I was the 1st clean runner across the line in the 200m U20 World championships in 2024.
So after the DQ of the runner who tested positive I can happily say I am the U20 200m World Champion

The original WC winner Adaejah Hodge was disqualified for testing positive to a banned substance.

Sad to think that juniors are drug cheats 🙁
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Im watching the Doggies vs adelaide, and whilst im not sure what changes we can and should make, I dont understand how teams like the Doggies can keep their side together, yet every 8 years or so we end up with an exodus. 

Helps you dont chop and change coach all that much, but we change direction like a weather vane.

False perception!

The Bulldogs have stuck fat with Beveridge, but they’ve turned their list over as much as we have over the last few seasons.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Taco explaining war and prices:

“Prices are coming down very substantially, oil will be coming down. That's just a matter of war that happens very, you can almost predict it. I would say it went up a little bit less than we thought, it's going to come down more than anybody understands."

For accuracy’s sake, substitute “subsquishatly” for “substantially”.

Leaving aside the mispronunciation, what on earth does that mean?  That’s not the speech of a lucid, rational person capable of clear thinking or considered decision making.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Taco’s threat to Cuba has prompted Putin come in on Cuba’s side and two blockade breaking Russian fuel tankers are on their way.

I suspect we’ll be hearing “make a deal” language from Taco as he bends over for Putin again.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: DJC – on
Taco recently told reporters that one of the former presidents told him he wished he had been the one to bomb Iran.  Bill Clinton, George W Bush, Barack Obama and Joe Biden have since confirmed that not only did they not say such a thing, they have not spoken to Taco for some time.

Is he delusional or a pathological liar?
The USA Presidential trail isn't exactly a conga line of truth, justice, integrity, morality and achievement is it?

In fact, apart from 45 and 47, it is.

Even Tricky Dickie was honest in comparison to Taco.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Taco recently told reporters that one of the former presidents told him he wished he had been the one to bomb Iran.  Bill Clinton, George W Bush, Barack Obama and Joe Biden have since confirmed that not only did they not say such a thing, they have not spoken to Taco for some time.

Is he delusional or a pathological liar?