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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
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A score involvement in the AFL is a statistic that credits any player who is directly involved in a successful scoring chain that results in a goal or a behind. A single player is only credited with one score involvement per scoring chain, even if they touch the ball multiple times during that play.

How a Score Involvement Happens
A player is credited with a score involvement if their action directly leads to a score through:
- A disposal (a kick or a handball)
- A hitout to advantage
- A kick-in (from the defensive goal square)
- A knock-on (tapping the ball forward to a teammate)
- Winning a free kick that directly leads to the score

So knock ons count. Conspiracy over.

Yes, that's what I said:

Quote from: DJC – on
It has to be direct involvement, so knock ons and hitouts count, not shepherds, blocks, etc.

So, to summarise, Gov kicked two behinds.  They count as score involvements, but aren't effective disposals.  Therefore, Gov's three effective disposals were parts of chains of possession that ended with a score, his long bomb to Crippa being one of them, and his sole goal assist.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
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It has to be direct involvement, so knock ons and hitouts count, not shepherds, blocks, etc.

Might be for a free kick that was paid advantage.
So he made the play, but didn't get a touch for ir.

Yeah, nah!

The player has to physically move the ball as part of the chain of possessions that results in the score.  Gov got one free and, if I remember correctly, he took his kick.

Just another anomaly in the arcane world of footy stats  ::) 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
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Mitch McGovern has been in very good form but he had a shocker on Friday.  He is credited with only three effective disposals ... but he had five score involvements.  How does that work?  Are behinds counted as ineffective disposals?
Tap ons, shepherds count count as an involvement?

It has to be direct involvement, so knock ons and hitouts count, not shepherds, blocks, etc.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 10 2026 Carlton vs Geelong at Carlton
Cooper Lord kicked three goals so not a bad effort all round from him, even if his opponent got a bit of the ball.

I only watched the last half of the last quarter so I can't really comment on player performances but, on the stats alone, Coops and Ben Camporeale are putting their hands up.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Geelong at MCG
Zac Williams is a bit stiff.  He was "managed" for the Port game and can only get an emergency slot this week.

I know that Zac is a bit of a whipping boy but he has played consistent footy this season as a defender, forward and midfielder.  He would give us much more than Byrner and Flynn Young combined.

Weitering for Derksen is a no brainer, although the latter is stiff to miss out.  Weiters has been subjected to a media pile on but his form has been pretty good, particularly when you consider the undermanned, inexperienced defence he was trying to lead, and our poor team defence up the ground.  Naughton kicked three goals against him; one when Weiters was blocked and couldn't get to the contest, and two from very soft blocking free kicks.

It's good to see Acres back, although I will be anticipating at least one shanked kick out on the full.

It's going to be a tough assignment but we always seem to do pretty well against the Cats and we've got to be in with a chance.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 9 2026 Carlton vs Coburg at Coburg
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The commentators were saying that Cody Walker was now on our VFL list and would now be playing in most games.  Is that correct?

There's an AI entry that says he was added to the VFL list in late April 2026. That's all I can find. My faith in AI is tepid at best, so I would take that with a low level of confidence for now.

He's not showing on the picture profile of the VFL list on the CFC website.

I have less faith in the CFC website than I do in AI  ::)