Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on June 10, 2026, 07:10:18 pm

I'll respectfully disagree Shawny on the list and I put our rejuvenation down more to the dominant work of Cripps and Walsh which was missing earlier in the season.
Would you offer the job to Fraser if he achieved your 50% win rate and are you happy to continue with the majority of the list as is?

EB, I want a thorough process to elect the next coach. If after that process Fraser is selected then im fine with that but we need that process. This is the step i believe we keep getting wrong so i want no stone unturned this time around

Regarding the list I believe its not as bad as it appeared under Voss in his last few years and the instant result changes with the interim coach confirms my thinking. I rank it mid tier without major injuries and once you add Walker to Jagga Walsh and Cripps mix, get more games into the kids and if we can snare a few free agents that fill a few of the weaker areas we will be hard to beat. No list is ever perfect so we need smart additions again in the off season but as i said we are not as far away as many think.

Mainly as i don't think the players we lost in last years trade has been as bad as many imagined as a matter of fact i would take the mobile hard working Haywood over lazy Charlie, Jack is a handy player but the improvement of Cowan negates his loss, it's TDK that hurt us mobile goalkicking rucks don't exactly grow on trees. I'm much more bullish than i was 12 months ago in fact i believe we are better placed now then we were this time last year comparing the list at both times.

Then again I could be delusional!  Time will tell.   

What has changed since Voss had the reins?

1.  Playing Harry as second ruck/forward.  Coincidentally his best two games this year have been the last two.
2. More on ball time for Smith.
3.  Clear directive to hold the ball until better options emerge. Less hack kicks forward.
4. Selection of kids over veterans. No Saad, Acres, Young. Big roles given to kids like Dean. Clearly some have had their cards marked.
5. Selection of Ison who looks like a very accomplished player.
6. Selection of kids like Billy who kick hard, flat and through the corridor.
7. Timely return to form of senior players and Hewitt back in seniors.
8. Playing struggling sides who we really should be beating regardless of who is coaching.

Three things I hope the Carlton hierarchy and Match Committee have learned over the past two weeks (and the second half in Brisbane as well)....

(1) Keep playing the young ones and give them a license to challenge the game.   We have looked so different since Billy Wilson, Ollie Hollands, Lachie Cowan, Matt Carroll, Jagga Smith have been given the thumbs up to run with the ball and kick the ball long and hard.  The ball is flying into the forward line, and our forwards are starting to work out how to best use this new style.  Sure, there will be mistakes, but they seem to be getting better at it the more they do it,

(2) George Hewitt must stay in the senior team.  Too good to be left out, and now there is some run around him, his hard work leads to opportunities.

(3) Patrick Cripps must only ever wear a Carlton jumper.

It's on the public record that we have changed the way we play, going back to pre season. It was bound to click sooner or later.

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on May 24, 2026, 09:50:15 am

The big change for me has been Cripps form , suddenly he has 4th quarter energy and is back to brownlow form?

It's amazing how blokes playing for career survival can suddenly find the energy and effort to give the captain a chop-out!

Cripps is getting to the end of games fresher, because all of a sudden those around him are making an effort.

Also last night we saw what happened when "team defense happened", in the absence of our usual reliance on Weitering to mop up the crap we normally dish up!

This group will go nowhere, because it proves that Voss was put to the sword by selfishness, now that they fear for their own future they have suddenly become selfless. Except for Flynn Young, he should be kyboshed to the VFL for eternity as a warning to others who think about burning the squad for self-benefit.

Quote from: dodge – on May 15, 2026, 12:05:01 am

LP - the only way for my kids will be through inheritances that we will get in the next 10 years or so. I think the boat has sailed for those that aren't in such a fortunate position. I don't understand how people can repay $3k a fortnight ($1m loan) or $2.4k ($0.8m loan)

Gentleman Jim and Albo will want a piece of that inheritance money. They want to pillage Discretionary trusts and bring in a death tax by default. A lot of small business people who use DTs for distributing income  as well as will money when appropriate will get hit and switching to a fixed trust is going to cost you tax and stamp duty in some cases. Albo tried to explain it but doesn't have a clue and most of the real wealthy won't be affected...

Quote from: Thryleon – on May 17, 2026, 09:43:10 pm

A cynic might say that Voss decided to resign with the writing on the wall and ensuring that the club looked silly in the process.  Whilst Wright and Priestly looked a bit unflustered, I don’t think Voss deciding to call it quits this week was part of the plan.  Perhaps we were going to let him coach out the year after all, and he was not having a bar of it.

It's certainly possible. I suspect if anything, Wright and Davies would've been relieved to see him give his notice so promptly. The pressure is off team performance this season IMO, so they have bought themselves plenty of time.

From what Voss was saying it seemed that he was the one who initiated the talk with Davies.
It was during that discussion it was apparent that Voss understood he was not getting a new contract.
He then chose to leave after the Brisbane game...the timing was more his choice.
As such he gave away the opporunity for wins against the Bulldogs and Port

Are we rating the performance based on our own biases.
Those that supported Voss seem to think we did nothing different...suggesting we would have won anyway
Those who wanted him moved on are pointing out areas where they thought we changed things up.
There's an argument for both.

I don't think there were major differences to our performance from our game last week.
But I do think it was a more even performance across the game, and even those who didn't exactly shine contributed.

The thing is there was very little time to change things up too much given the short period of time between Voss's departure and the game.
I suspect that's why we didn't see wholesale changes to the team or the way we played.
The inclusion of Jack was the only change from a team that ran Brisbane close...and that was fair enough.
The VFL had a good win and  number of players put forward a claim for selection yesterday...so we may see something different next week....or not.
At any rate we did something we haven't done much this year...and that's win a game and get 4 points.

Cripps' last quarter: 13 possessions, 5 clearances, 4 score involvements, 3 centre clearances and most of his possessions contested. Huge!
He wasn't bad earlier: he and Bont sort of nullified each other, but when the final term started, Cripps lifted and Bont didn't. Bont had 24 possessions, but he didn't hurt us with them. I guess you could say something similar about Walsh: 25 possessions, 4 clearances, but did hurt them as much as Cripps did.

Our best 4 quarter player was probably Ollie Florent. He was huge! 28 possessions, 11 marks and 4 tackles. And some of the things he did were huge.

Not far behind him was Lachie Cowan. Cowan has been ordinary this year, but this was easily his best game. He marked well, he did some magnificent defensive things. He had 1 tackle, but he did so much more defensively.

Jagga Smith was also much better this week. He had 25 possessions and the longer the game went on, the better those possessions were.

Ollie Hollands gut running was excellent. He made things happen by not giving up and running hard.

Billy Wilson was ordinary early. He turned the ball over and didn't seem to have the confidence or the commitment. But, like a number of others, he really lifted.

We've definitely found one in jack Ison. He had 15 possessions and kicked 1 goal 2, but it was more the way he went about things that impressed.

Harry Dean made one shocking error early, but was very good after that. I was really surprised to see he had only 12 possessions.

Quote from: shawny – on May 16, 2026, 10:12:10 pm

still trading cripps???

No surprise that the team's best two halves of the season were built on Crippa's clearance work - especially out of the centre.