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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments


Mate, they die younger, they live sicker lives.
Come up and visit me and you’ll see that 40-70% of the NT mob are wrapped in filthy bandages despite the medical professions best efforts.
We are not discussing intelligent well educated and articulate people like say Ernie Dingo here, we are discussing the downtrodden.
If you and he presented simultaneously you would both recieve the same treatment as (relatively) young fit healthy men, of this I have no doubt.
Certainly so here in the Territory.

st Vincent's is not solely in the NT.

So are we saying they dont want to wait like the rest of us are forced to?


st V isn’t in the nt.
What I’m saying is that if a white one and a black one present with the same problem the black one is more likely to die, statistically.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Let's hear from St Vincents:

"Hi everyone, Many of you will be aware of media coverage over the last few days related to our Emergency Department (ED) and our efforts to deliver fairer health outcomes for First Nations patients. I wanted to share a brief message with you to explain what we’re doing and why. Across almost every indicator, First Nations Australians experience worse health outcomes than non-Indigenous Australians. Research conducted in St Vincent’s Melbourne’s ED showed First Nations patients were three times more likely to leave without being seen than non-Indigenous patients. First Nations patients were also waiting, on average, three times longer compared to non-Indigenous patients. But our research also showed that First Nations patients were more likely to remain engaged with their care if seen within their first hour in the ED. We’ve been working to address this issue for many years, but in April 2024, we took a new approach and implemented what’s known as a Minimum Category Three Triage policy. The idea is straightforward: in an ED, patients assigned as being ‘Category Three’ receive medical assessment and start their treatment within 30 minutes of arrival. Under our policy, we now assign a minimum Category 3 to all First Nations patients so that they begin their treatment promptly and to minimise the risk of disengagement and poorer health outcomes.

The results have been outstanding. Since introduction, we have successfully closed the gap in ED wait times between First Nations and non-Indigenous patients. While there is still much work to do, that is something to celebrate. Let me be very clear about what this approach does not do… It has not affected overall wait times in the ED. Analysis of our approach – which concerns only a small number of First Nations patients in the ED each day – shows it has had no impact on overall ED flow. Patients presenting with a serious or life-threatening emergency – regardless of their background – will always be seen first. That's what ED triage is designed to do. We can do both. We’ve arranged our resources and processes so that the small number of First Nations patients in our ED don’t have their care delayed for longer than 30 minutes, while also making sure that the most urgent cases are still seen as a priority. We've closed the gap between two groups without negatively affecting either. This is what good healthcare looks like. The St Vincent’s mission has always been about helping people who face barriers to accessing quality healthcare. That’s who we are. It’s what defines us. And it’s core to this approach. I’m proud of what we’ve been able to achieve. I’m proud of our Aboriginal Health Liaison Team, our Emergency Department team, and all our staff who continue to show leadership through initiatives like this. While there has been much said over the past few days, please know that we will continue to advocate for what is right and for evidence-based healthcare. And if you’ve found the last few days upsetting, please approach your manager, colleagues, or our EAP service should you need assistance.

Kind regards, Nicole"

Evidence-based healthcare that has closed the gap between two groups without negatively affecting either?  That's got to be grounds for racist outrage!



I’m triggered… 🙄
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments


I won't bother answering your Taco question because we have another thread dedicated to the shenanigans of the senile, misogynistic, convicted felon who is making such a balls up of his second go at playing at being POTUS.

Yes, racism isn't confined to folk of a particular skin colour, it's much more than that. 

"Racism is the process by which systems and policies, actions and attitudes create inequitable opportunities and outcomes for people based on race. Racism is more than just prejudice in thought or action. It occurs when this prejudice – whether individual or institutional – is accompanied by the power to discriminate against, oppress or limit the rights of others."

The key point there is that racism is prejudice by those with power over others, such as that exercised by the Chinese government against the Uyghurs and Tibetans.  Ensuring that an ethnic minority has equal access to health care is affirmative action, not racism.
this is not affirmative action.

If i walk in to this ED and an indigenous bloke walkS in, both with category 4 classification, EXACT SAME ISSUE, he goes first because he's indigenous even though I was triaged before him.  He gets upgraded to category 3.

Effectively they're fast tracked based on race.  Seems fair....

Mate, they die younger, they live sicker lives.
Come up and visit me and you’ll see that 40-70% of the NT mob are wrapped in filthy bandages despite the medical professions best efforts.
We are not discussing intelligent well educated and articulate people like say Ernie Dingo here, we are discussing the downtrodden.
If you and he presented simultaneously you would both recieve the same treatment as (relatively) young fit healthy men, of this I have no doubt.
Certainly so here in the Territory.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Dunno Lods, I went to the same schools adjacent to Heidelberg West and Olympic Village as many former recidivists and received the same education, yet the outcome was different.  Some people just keeping making poor choices and I reckon a lot of it comes down to poor parental guidance, but everyone has their pet theory

People are individuals and make both good and poor choices and there is no “one solution” to these or pretty much any other problem.
As to making parents “responsible” for their children’s crimes, where does that stop ?
My son has a hairy arse and he makes his own choices, do you want me to break his legs to limit where and what he does ?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Lewis Young

Or was it there was no interest in him and seeing out his contract was his only option. Never understood how his form tapered after a very good first year where he was very safe with the ball and ultra reliable..
you can thank weitering for that.  He was not very forgiving of young, and placed him under pressure to perform.  Ruined his confidence.

Maybe he didnt have options maybe he did.  Either way he elected to take the route of stay at Carlton.  Maybe he saw the storm coming and said percentages say im better off staying.  Who knows. 

My memory says that Young was very good without Weitering… truth or perception 🤷🏼‍♂️
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Lewis Young


If he was paid less, would it have been good recruiting?

If we paid him half what he got would it have been good recruiting?

If we paid him half what he got and lost the other half because we 'had to use it or lose it' is that good recruiting?
If he paid us to play it would still be poor recruiting...

Never the jellyfish and no flip flopping from EB 🤣
I think this year was Govs worst for us.
When he’s confident he’s fairly good or maybe he’s confident when he’s fairly good, dunno but he wasn’t this year.
He attacks, so I expect an error or two.
I guess if he’s fringe 22 we could do a lot worse.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
The collapse and division of the Liberal party is largely responsible for this.
Get that back on track and the support for One Nation will dissipate overnight.
I suspect a lot of angry LNP voters when asked the question will say 'One Nation' as a bit of an 'up yours' to the Libs
There's probably also  a number of voters who are seeing the voting success of the Republican party in the USA and think that sort of thinking can translate to our politics...and it's probably a fact that there is the same core 20-30% of Australians who do think along those lines.
One Nation will not be a significant political influence at the next election.
In fact it will probably divide the Conservative vote, if the Libs don't wake up to themselves.


Libs biggest mistake was electing a woman… I think I’ll vote one nation in protest, ohh hang on…
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread
Saturday's Age made quite a deal about a century Sam Konstas scored for Australia A against India A in Lucknow last month.  The game wasn't televised so there has to be some doubt about whether it actually happened.   ;D

Anyway, after having his tyres pumped up, young Sam was dismissed for four by WA's Joel Paris in the opening Sheffield Shield round.  It may have been a short innings but it was eventful with Konstas surviving a dropped catch and two LBW appeals before Paris trapped him.

His chances of a Test spot must be hanging by a thread.

Cmon down Jake 👍🏼