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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
I was originally concerned Jack down back thinking his smarts were best used deep forward. Happy to be proven wrong after what we’ve seen.

After last weeks win I said Motlop needs to turn up every week. 5 disposals and very very underwhelming. Needs to take a good hard look at himself. He did only one get 88 minutes of the 120 , but that’s about his I can say in his defence.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Mental Health/Illness Education, Empathy & Responsibility
How about our mental health...  Thirty years welded on to the most depressing relationship, supporting this f****d up exercise.
Joke coaching.
Joke list management.
Joke selections.
Joke fitness regime.
Keep wheeling out the same crap trucks who don't deliver week after week.
Same players making the same mistakes.

Supporting Carlton is an abusive relationship.
mate, I empathise whole heartedly.

All I can offer you is perspective.  People wonder  why do bad things happen to people.  Why do they get sick.  Why do people die young.

I think this is nature (or if you are religious Gods) way of teaching everyone perspective and how we should be greatful for the good, and recognise the bad for what they are.

It's just footy.

I attended a funeral of a 49 year old woman 2 weeks ago.  Her husband is a relative of mine.  His mum passed away at the same age when he was still a youngster.  He had the misfortune of finding his dad dead in bed a few years later.  So orphaned as a pre teen/teenager, he and his older brother were effectively raised by my uncle and aunty. 

If he can find the strength to continue living life in the face of adversity, then we must remember its just footy.

Whilst our players frustrate the hell out of me at times these are all young men, playing football.  If some of the fan noise and yelling I hear was said to a child of mine, I don't know how I'd react.

It's just footy.  It's been a hard time, but thats what made the last couple of seasons so worthwhile.   Stick fat the wheel will turn.

I too am impatient, but the one thing that I learned out of 2012 was that impatience can lead to catastrophe and sometimes understanding where you're at is more important than worrying about where you aren't.

I checked yesterday and today and the sun still came up. It’s just a game. I have long suffering family members who aren’t old enough like some of us to enjoy seeing the cup raised. I keep telling them that it’s just a game.

We know that players from the bygone era had their demons, and some have come forward in recent times. Sadly some have taken it a step further. The problem is not a new one, it’s been around forever, it’s just we are more aware than ever about today and thankfully those who need help have better avenues than ever.

These  lads earn huge money, completely disproportionate to the overwhelming majority of the community especially for their age. This builds expectation on them and envy in others.
When there’re selected high in the draft expectations are set.
The regime they apply to themselves in the attempt to get drafted can be off the charts. They don’t lives the life of their peers.
Social media is a f*&#ing emotional blowtorch.

I think this modern age exacerbates this problem that has existed forever, and it frustrates the hell out of me that it feels like there is no unwinding where we are now.



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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs


Moir makes most sense and after him I would have taken Binns before Evans,  even in Evans preferred position.

To be honest I just don’t get Evans based on current VFL form (bad) or past performances (bad)

Moir barely touched the ball and Binns was average in their VFL game.  Evans was excellent in the VFL in terms of the defensive pressure he applied … and that’s his job.

You will probably laugh at me but I have a feeling Moir may be a modern day Brent Croswell. Literally bored to be out there unless he's on the big stage. He is obviously miles from Croswell in terms of achievements, but in the little we have seen I think does have that mercurial way, yet at the sametime lazy way about him. Not much room or appetite for these types nowadays.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 1 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
A brief period of masochism. I watched the game again with a few mates. Watching us fall apart when under enthusiastic heat was revealing.. Where are our tough blokes, blokes with mental hardness, leadership and discipline? Fair dinkum,, apart from Nick Newman I cannot think of any other bloke I'd want to be in the trenches with. Yet watching the Dawks, they seemed blessed with hard at i t types. Our niceness is palpable but not a handy ingredient in a gladiatorial sport. We need an alchemist as a senior coach to give our blokes a persistent tenacious hardness/mongrel.

Tenacious / Hard / Mongrel. Maybe some 1-1 tackling drills with the coach and a video of basically any game the coach played. Something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xh5N6yPa9U
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Play both Jack and Kemp in the backline or play Kemp as a high half forward in Elijah Hollands role because he was a good conduit last year and dont have one this year.
Moir looked good at VFL praccy today but his determination to defend and win contests goes amiss. But looks extremely classy with ball in hand.

I had hopes for Moir. Sounding like a Damien Cupido / Troy Menzel type. The last thing we need.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: How will we line up in 2025.
I don't think SOS down back will work. IMHO he is at his best as an elusive forward pocket who reads the play very well, involves others and kicks some goals. In doing this he isn't exposed by his lack of pace as he is elsewhere on the ground. I'm really really concerned that he won't work out down back. He doesn't break lines, he could get monstered by a big forward and he's slower than a mid/small ones.

It pains me to say this because I think he has the edge on everyone in side when it comes to passion for jumper. He simply loves playing for us.
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The Sports Desk / Re: Gout Gout
I was involved in LA for a few years, and have had a life long interest in T & F. Kids bodies change as they grow get get slower some get faster. Good coaches and clubs emphasize trying your best at all events and try not to focus too heavily on one or two. High jumpers can become triple jumpers. Sprinters being explosive can become throwers. This is not understood and kids get burnt out when the from in their preferred events drops off.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Agree 100% on the comment on C & H playing too deep, and leave Kemp down forward to mix things up.

IMHO Ithink Moir is something special. Play him. He is still under the radar / underestimated and therefore not respected yet. No better time to announce himself and do some damage.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth
While finals are still mathematically possible, a team like the Hawks deserves that spot way more than we do...simple as that. With 6 players likely to be missing from last weekend, there's not much left to choose from so lets have a look at Moir, Lemmey, Binns, Wilson, Carroll.....even Mirkov. He couldn't be any worse than Pittonet's been in the last month.

Big agree on Mirkov. We need to know how he goes. He'll get lots of hit outs purely on his size, and he'll be hitting out to ball users who are significantly better players. They'll make him look better. Sure it will be hard for him, but we have to find out how he goes. Pittonet's (I am a fan btw - big heart) feet barely leave the ground. Mirkov is so tall that the opposition ruckman will be more worried about stopping him than doing anything good themselves. That could mean the oppositions clearance ball strategy is compromised at least. If we were already done and dusted Mirkov in would be a better idea probably, but big guys need time and need to start somewhere. Harry Madden took a while to get going.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS
I don't think he will and Hewett will come in.

But then again, using logic I learnt from Vizzini the Sicilian in the "Princess Bride."

That's exactly what GWS will be thinking....that Kennedy will miss and Hewett will come in.

So, they'll prepare for Hewett.

On the other hand GWS will know that is what we think they will believe and we'll actually play Kennedy.

So they'll prepare for Kennedy.

But many of us suspect that the Kennedy recovery is too quick.
So GWS better be ready for Hewett.

As you wish
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast
I'm not averse to giving the removing the prior opportunity a go.
But I think we need to see it trialled before we make the change to determine how much of a difference it would make.
Just for a bit of fun I watched a quarter  a few weeks ago and tried to 'umpire' it on the basis of get the ball and if tackled release it virtually immediately in a proper manner...no prior.
Of course it may very well  have been my interpretation, but I only counted 4 occasions when it would have made a difference...when a free might have been paid.
I'm guessing it was probably a lot greater on the weekend
I wonder how much difference it would make to the game, but we won't know unless we trial it...with umpires a bit more accomplished than my good self :))

I'm open to trying it as well. I think when the ball is live we may see some kicking off the ground and fisting/paddling the ball forward. Shepherding may come back into the game (its not what it was these days) to give the guy trying to take possession a chop out.