The bottom line is that the International Criminal Court (ICC) issued arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant, the former Minister of Defense of Israel, alleging responsibility for the war crime of starvation as a method of warfare and the crimes against humanity of murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts during the Gaza war. Even in war there are lines that aren't crossed by civilised countries or their leaders.
A subsequent UN Commission of Inquiry called for genocide charges to be added to the warrant after finding the Israeli government guilty of multiple violations of the 1948 Genocide Convention.
The ICC also issued an arrest warrant for Hamas military commander Mohammed Deif but it was later learned that he had been killed in an Israeli airstrike.
Just as all Jews aren't Zionists or Israelis, very few Palestinians are Hamas. Israel's Palestinian genocide is a disproportionate response to Hamas terrorism.
That's no excuse to bring their wars to Australia.Last time I checked Bondi beach wasnt connected to the Gaza strip. Same with these pro Palestinian demonstrations where Australian Flags are burnt and ISIS flags are flown, it's got nothing to do with Australia and we are not a battleground for religious holy wars. Albanese by his own admission hasn't done enough, sat on his Envoys report for 5 months and now we are having to look over our shoulder every time we shop at Westfield or Myer during the Christmas period. NSW police now want Rifles so they have more firepower...too little , too late from Albo and now our once safe country is a war zone.
spot on as usual Eb.
why allow protests when relating to oversea issues? they are fanatical and protests builds unity among them and just strengthens there beliefs until they end up taking thinga into their own hands when the issues are not resolved
We are way too soft here we allow their hatred to grow and manifest until one of them does an evil act and the innocent are slaughtered. Same as our p1ssweak sentencing - they gave bail (was later revoked) to the nutcase who stabbed that poor innovent chef a few months back in the city. disgusting and weak and the sorts that commit these vile acts prey on the weak so unless we get serious and make big changes its going to happen again.
Gutless bullies, not matter which side of the fence they dwell on, always go after the weakest target.
You cant get anymore gutless they to stand on a bridge picking off innocent men women and children with a high powered weapon all about a conflict on the other side of the world.
What i find somewhat amusing is how so many of us fan opinions change dramatically once you form your own view as to how we are tracking as a club. All the 50/50s when your positive about our direction ‘are going to be great additions and upgrades’ and conversely when you’re not seeing it those same 50/50s are viewed as clear downgrades and negatives and the players we lost are based on their very best form as to what we lost.
And both sides can provide reasonable arguments why their view is more balanced then the other.
Its the same with politics.
Personally im ok with the changes as our hands were tied with all of the major ones but imo all things being equal more quality left then came in so im expecting 2026 to be a average year and a mid table finish. I think our next real chance is if the likes of Dean, campo bros, jagga and walker can all do what the ashcroft brothers did and explode on the scene all while the likes of cripps walsh weitering are all still in their peak.
Thats our hope imo to genuinely be a chance to snare a flag but we need 2-3 years before thats any chance of evenualating.
I hear you but I dont think you are being 100% honest because as recent as early in the year when many including myself wrote another season off when dropping the first batch of games you were always the one who seemed to find a way to stay positive and usually came up with a scenario were not all was lost. You were equally positive during the game threads and rarely conceded until there was no other option.
And you were not a massive fan of TDK so this big turn in your view seems mainly on the back of losing 2 players Charlie and Jack and not replacing a like for a like with them?
I don't blame you for saying enough is enough as you know I lost faith many years ago and had major doubts the current list holes were much bigger then many on here want to believe.
Its good that you point out that i was usually very positive, i am or at least was. I find it amusing when people disagree with my opinions on the matter and say im just being negative, most are more negative than me.
re tdk... A lot of people misunderstand me when it comes to him. Let me clarify. 1. I don't think he is worth the crazy money we offered him and certainly not what the saints offer him. 2. I think his ruckwork (hitouts) is average at best, pittonet destroys him in that area. 3. I think his around the ground work is good but far from elite. I did some comparisons to Pittonet in all the key areas tackles, clearances, marks, disposals etc and they were very similar. 4. His consistency and his ability to stay out in the park is a weakness, see point 1.
That being said... - His athletic ability is elite. - His potential is elite. - If it's 'his day' people can't stop him. - I picked him as my starting ruck in all of the best 22s we did last year from preseason to the end.
So he is very much a loss. A lot of that loss is a loss on what he could be. Some of that is comparing to what we have instead, in not talking about Pittonet, but 2nd ruck... Reidy or HOK, who should also be a potential kpf we rely on.
So compare tdk to what we have in his place. Compare a dual Coleman medallist to what we have in his place. Compare inspirational AA and former (co) captain to what we have in his place Compare Jack(of all trades) to what we have in his place.
In each area, we are now lacking by comparison. That's 4 best 22 players we have downgraded in the offseason.
Sure some players we got in MAY be an upgrade on other positions, but these positions are less important by comparison. So yes our hff and fp may be better in 2026 (tbc) but nobody is saying our ff will be better. Will the ins cover for the outs? I say no. Time will tell.
What i can't understand is the blind faith in current recruiters and list management team. Each individual pick/player you can make a case for. But as a collective i think they are fixated on the wrong areas and have been for years. The sheer amount of small forwards we have recruited and continue to recruit bother me no end. The constant recruiting to fill a need, confirms their previous efforts have failed as it continues to be a need.
Fair enough.
The thing is when i see fans like yourself lose faith at the direction of the club it really hammers home we are miles off which is hard to bloody take.
You don't build a list by selling off talent, particularly when that talent is invested in the club and provides a role model and leadership on and off the field. Those qualities are why I believe that we'll miss Doc more than the other three.
That said, footy clubs and their players are resilient and are used to change. Our players have mentioned the challenge and excitement of new teammates and new coaches. They don't sook about a teammate going to another club or a favourite coach moving on. They just get on with the job.
List managers aren't focused on our best 23 for next season. They've got lots of balls in the air and are planning several seasons ahead both in terms of potential new players and those who may want to move on or have passed their use by date. Think back to SOS's "sustainable list".
I'm interested to know what Thry means by "old Carlton". To me, "old Carlton" went when SOS and his crew moved into a list management hub, adopted the Boston Red Sox's list management database and began using an analytics program for player evaluation. Austin has moved further forward with a dedicated list management strategy guru and data analysts to crunch the numbers. No wonder some supporters struggle to keep up.
We only have one survivor from the "old Carlton" days now, not that there weren't a handful that had decent careers.
old Carlton wouldnt have drafted youth at all. Wouldn't have prioritised jagga, Dean and walker, would have traded out these picks for players, and attempted to climb the ladder that way. We've attempted both. The players weve gotten could be great, or could be average. Theres always a possibility that we infect them with the Carlton malaise.
Not sure which 'Old Carlton' you're referring to?
The one in the 70s - 90s was ruthless, sacked coaches the second we werent winning flags, were hated by everyone but also feared by the whole comp. That period netted a lazy 7 flags and yes they did some shady stuff and were solely focused on one goal and had no patience in the process - the end result was we won flags. In the modern era how clean are the cats with all deals they do behind the scenes with players contracts yet everyone praises them as a team that never rebuilds and is a ongoing powerhouse yet many want to dismiss our past ?
Not me.
Post 90s, the next 2 and half decades the 'new Carlton' are much nicer, we have no d1ckhead polices and a playing list filled with as EB1 says Von Trapps types, yet in this period added zero flags.
i can’t believe how much your position has changed especially in the last 6 months
You were always one of the very much glass half full over the last decade and now what seems in a very short time have flipped.
do you agree?
Yes and no.
I've been pretty consistent on my messaging over the years. Draft kpps before you need them. I've given the recruiters the benefit of the don't (against my better judgement) for a lot of that time. Every year i hear, we didn't have the picks, we didn't have talent available etc. Well this year beyond a shadow of a doubt we did.... and we still didn't do anything about it.... including attempting to cover the loss of Charlie.
As frustrating as that is, people are now congratulating them and saying our list had improved on top of that? I feel like I'm living in the twilight zone or something and everyone else is brainwashed by the club (most, not everyone)
I feel like Al Gore trying to earn everyone about climate change but nobody is listening and they won't listen until everyone else stays talking about it too. In the meantime I'm just a negative crackpot.
So yes, I've been much more vocal about it because of run out of patience with our team and have no faith in what they are doing. No, i hasn't changed my thinking process though.
I hear you but I dont think you are being 100% honest because as recent as early in the year when many including myself wrote another season off when dropping the first batch of games you were always the one who seemed to find a way to stay positive and usually came up with a scenario were not all was lost. You were equally positive during the game threads and rarely conceded until there was no other option.
And you were not a massive fan of TDK so this big turn in your view seems mainly on the back of losing 2 players Charlie and Jack and not replacing a like for a like with them?
I don't blame you for saying enough is enough as you know I lost faith many years ago and had major doubts the current list holes were much bigger then many on here want to believe.
That's changing the focus again....you've moved away from the age debate to the talent debate
Average age is pretty meaningless when you're talking in averages only a year or two different.
No its going back to the original point. Our list got weaker.
The opposition to this justify this by saying we got younger as we were too old. I'm pointing out relative to the opposition, we got older. The players we recruited, half of them were older than our average age. That flies in the face of the arguement that we are rebuilding/rejuvinating and getting younger. THIS was the justification for destroying our prelim list and the reason we are nosediving.
I'm calling BS on the rejuvination of the list as a viable strategy given we've barely moved the age needle, and done so less than most who are not doing the same thing.
All this falls back to the same question which i can't get a straight answer on.
WHY does everyone have so much faith in the current list management team? The reasons i've had so far are contradictory at worst, and weak at best.
i can’t believe how much your position has changed especially in the last 6 months
You were always one of the very much glass half full over the last decade and now what seems in a very short time have flipped.
Williams - McKay - Hayward Ainsworth - Kemp - Moir
when you look at that group of 6 players capable of kicking a winning score its hardly going to send shivers down the spines of the heavy weights is it.
one of the weaker forward lines in the comp sadly based on current levels. they may surprise sure but im talking about what those 6 have done in recent years is average at best.
This in how unsafe Victoria has become: For the year ending June 2025, according to the Crime Statistics Agency(https://www.crimestatistics.vic.gov.au/) , there were:
18,482 serious assaults - a 16 per cent increase 7,856 residential aggravated burglaries - a 22 per cent increase 3,828 robberies - a 17 per cent increase 33,018 motor vehicle theft - a 42 per cent increase 86,351 steal from a motor vehicle - a 39 per cent increase 41,667 steal from a retail store - a 28 per cent increase 11,075 prohibited and controlled weapon offences - a 12 per cent increase. 9,663 family violence related serious assaults - a 23% per cent increase.
You add in all the graffiti, unoccupied run down buildings full of squatters, needles everywhere you walk, increases in ambulance staff and nurses getting attacked on the job, drones landing in family members backyards with white packs of powder on board, kids getting murdered on the way home from a basketball game. The you have the Victorian Government actually cutting funding for Youth Crime Prevention programs and the Youth Support and Advocacy Service (YSAS). Debt in Victoria continues to grow faster than both the economy and revenue, with government sector gross debt nearing 30 per cent of the state’s economy. Credit rating has gone backwards and the auditor-general said gross debt was forecast to grow to $240 billion by 2028-29, about 202 per cent of operating revenue. Crime is on the rise and so is the expenditure for victims of crime...Liabilities from redress schemes, and financial assistance for victims of crime grew from $30 million five years ago to $853 million. Anyone living in Victoria should be concerned where the State is heading....future is bleak and the Crims are winning with the amount of unsolved crimes also increasing.
In this case i don't care what media report or our head in the sand leader telling us everytime another stabbing is reported that the state is safe and great but as i was born with eyes and ears in this case I will trust what i see first hand and how bad things have rather then believe a left leaning publication that happens to be 4 months old. If you like i can send you 100s of links of articles saying the complete opposite but i know you will say its 'Fake news' being from the other direction.
Talk to those who live in the west or those that go out into the city after dark or talk to emergency service workers who are on the front line and ask them. There is no denying it - the wheel has turned to a point where Vics are leaving in droves to get out.
My point was we have no politician remotely capable of standing up to a figure like Trump.
Albo nor that goose Rudd are not taken seriously by any country yet alone a super power.
You're point has absolutely no validity.
Any half-decent Australian politician from either of the major parties can stand up to the senile p1ssweak bully who is pretending to be the POTUS when he's not cheating at golf. If you followed international affairs you would know that the Australian Government regularly takes an opposing and correct position to that of the USA. The rest of the world has a playbook for effectively dealing with Taco, and Albo is one of the authors.
And Rudd, for all his flaws, has the balls to rightfully call out Taco as the village idiot.
Proof is in the pudding - when Trump raised what Rudd said (prior to Trump winning) their combined gigging and backflipping was as weak and childish a response as you get and not to mention cringe worthy.
You hate him we all get it but to imply our leaders can stand up to him is utter nonsense.
You need leaders with presence and backbone - the opposite of what we have in Oz and why the likes of Trump will walk all over us.
Jacinta tells us the state is safe and our bail laws are the toughest in the country.
Yet an 11 year old stabs a 8 year old and police have confirmed no charges will be laid as he is under the age of criminal conviction. He wore a balaclava had a fake gun and proceeded to stab a grade one child and a teacher. Did an adult crime so why allow him off scott free- Htf is this kid going to learn? Can you imagine in 5 years time what he will do. Juvenile detention is a min for this kid yet cant be charged.
Meanwhile at coles in Laurimar Machettes gang members terrorise innocent citizens going about their daily business - 2 of these criminals were charged yet unbelievably were yet again released on bail!! Can you fking believe it - nothing changes.
WTF has happened to our state - its out of control and regardless of which side of the political fence you sit on something needs to change and change fast.
The Laws and sentencing need major overhaulling yet nothing will happen as those running the state deny there is any issue.
Sad sad state of affairs
Are you near laurimar shawny? I know a lot of residents are losing their crap over this and it appears people are very close to pitchforks and torches.
Im about 20mins away and yes the local FB noticeboard comments in the area were filled with very angry fed up locals inferring its time we take matters into out own hands and draw arms. They think there is no other option to protect their families against what is groups of young violent men that have no respect for the law or for anyone that is around when these clashes go down. As we know they have no regard for human life.
Scary times and bloody sad to see what our state has turned into. Its hard to believe and only going to increase with the lack of accountability and governance we have.
These offenders dont operate in ways we are used to. They have no regard for anyone and until we get super tough by locking them up for long sentences they laugh at our p1ss weak ridiculous responses like macheete bins weak sentences and majority being bailed within 48 hours of getting apprehended - they will just go on their merry way causing havoc with these violent clashes and if you get caught up in it they wont think twice to stab slash kill and why citizens are privately preparing to do whats needed to protect their families as the leaders are incapable of it.
Jacinta tells us the state is safe and our bail laws are the toughest in the country.
Yet an 11 year old stabs a 8 year old and police have confirmed no charges will be laid as he is under the age of criminal conviction. He wore a balaclava had a fake gun and proceeded to stab a grade one child and a teacher. Did an adult crime so why allow him off scott free- Htf is this kid going to learn? Can you imagine in 5 years time what he will do. Juvenile detention is a min for this kid yet cant be charged.
Meanwhile at coles in Laurimar Machettes gang members terrorise innocent citizens going about their daily business - 2 of these criminals were charged yet unbelievably were yet again released on bail!! Can you fking believe it - nothing changes.
WTF has happened to our state - its out of control and regardless of which side of the political fence you sit on something needs to change and change fast.
The Laws and sentencing need major overhaulling yet nothing will happen as those running the state deny there is any issue.
this government cant even control local machette thugs - you want them to stand up to trump.
ya dreamin.
You've got the governments mixed up again Shawny. We have a Federal system with State and Territory Governments and the Commonwealth Government. The latter has the misfortune of trying to deal with the lunatic in the USA.
My point was we have no politician remotely capable of standing up to a figure like Trump.
Albo nor that goose Rudd are not taken seriously by any country yet alone a super power.
