Carlton wins: Voss Sympathisers: Hawks had injuries and were prime for the taking. Win is good but still the real tests are to come. Non Voss believers: We may never lose again. We could win the flag
Carlton loses: Voss Sympathisers: First test and we failed. Told you sacking Voss was a mistake. Non Voss believers: Going great. 7-1 to 1-8 is a massive upgrade.
Voss was a champion player but never had it as a coach. Apart from one season in his decade of coaching he failed to deliver with the lists he had. To see first hand the change the minute he left ends the discussion.
Fraser may or may not be the right selection but one thing is for certain Voss wasn't!
Don't be afraid Shawny? Back yourself 7-0, you're on fire! We're the team that never lets you down. I hope you're right and unlike you I will admit I was wrong.
Mate im one on here that will openly admit if im wrong.
I not one to keep flogging a dead horse like others.
Voss was a champion player but never had it as a coach. Apart from one season in his decade of coaching he failed to deliver with the lists he had. To see first hand the change the minute he left ends the discussion.
Fraser may or may not be the right selection but one thing is for certain Voss wasn't!
Just marginally better last night - we had to overcome a few things this time had no weitering lost dean late and then Young during the game. umps handled them a few goals very late. Round 1 we only won because Lynch kicked 2-7.
‘All the easy teams are gone’. im assuming you are referring to Ess and Rich only as GWS away Port Away, Geelong and Bulldogs are not easy for a mid teir team.
Ladder and record speaks for itself.
Our record in 2026 vs....
Top 6 teams 0-5
Bottom 4 teams 5-0
Middle 7 teams 3-3
Overall 8-8.
Tell me again about how its all about the coach.
Edited. Fixed error in formula
1-8 Voss
7-0 Fraser
You can spin it all you want but scoreboard doesn't lie
All the easy teams are gone now the real stuff begins.
Just marginally better last night - we had to overcome a few things this time had no weitering lost dean late and then Young during the game. umps handled them a few goals very late. Round 1 we only won because Lynch kicked 2-7.
‘All the easy teams are gone’. im assuming you are referring to Ess and Rich only as GWS away Port Away, Geelong and Bulldogs are not easy for a mid teir team.
I think Sam Mitchell would be ropeable after the Demons game, and I would expect him to fire up his charges like never before. It doesn't help us at all that we catch them after they put it such a limp performance.
yeah agree. Mitchell is a of a simialr mould to that little snipping pr1ck clarkon and would have been tearing the paint off the walls after that game even with their cameback. He would not have been happy and will demand a strong response.
If we play our best and they are still without wizard battle and impey we are a big chance.
Only thing if we start poorly its game over. Need to set the tone from the first bounce.
The reality Shawny is that the form of the midfield group has directly equated to the team's result. Cripps et al. were awful during rounds 1 to 8 but have been dominant since then. And that worries me greatly going forwards because going forwards that's the group we need to re-vitalise. We can rely on George and Paddy to be competitive. Where I think we've greatly improved as a coaching group is there seems to be a preference to play blokes in their best positions, pick the right role players and in general far less cockamamie MC choices.
Prof, I think its more than all this mostly on the bank of Cripps and Walsh over the last 6 weeks.
Personnel changes, confidence, gameplan tweaks, rapid improvement from our youth, more genuine options in the F50 and better use of the ball going inside 50, holding possession when no clear options and thank god there is no longer the default long bombs to contest - these are some of the reasons i see that are just as important as the midfield improvement.
I know its early days but we seem to be no where near as reliant on individuals as we were in the past. It was blinders from Cripps, Charlie, TDK or bust in previous years.
This was one of those 'danger games' when being the hot favorite was pressure we couldn't handle yet we handled it from the first bounce to the siren and won by 10 goals. Another box ticked.
It was only a few months ago we were all depressed siting second last with one lucky win against the bottom team -most blamed the list saying it was full of holes, we had no youth, trade weitering, trade Cripps etc etc..... then we change the coach and instantly the switch is flicked - 6 wins in a row is not easy and rarely done by the best teams let alone a list full of holes yet there are still those that want to put a negative spin on everything as they can't let the Voss decision go.
We have a group of kids playing key defensive roles and doing an amazing job and are a lot more even across the ground. We no longer rely on the same 2 key forwards to kick a bag or Cripps to be superman. The goal spread is so refreshing and what the best teams have. I'm not suggesting our list is perfect or as strong and deep as the top teams but it is nowhere near in as bad a shape as many thought.
We should have Wilson and Bryne added to Jagga and Dean as rising stars nominations and Dean or Jagga should win it. Get Weitering fit, add Walker and maybe 1 or 2 FA and another 50 games to the kids and IMO the list will be healthy and stronger than its been in the last 2 decades.
Time to let the Voss stuff go as we have a lot to look forward to.