James Paterson and Andrew Bragg are two of the better performed Liberal Senators imo and yep I know their job as the Libs attack dogs is to drag up dirt on anything Labor do/dont do but the reality is this present Government are great at serving up themselves up on a plate,making mistake after mistake and then trying to cover it up. Letting detainees back into the public who have been charged with serious crimes is horrendous imo and lacking common sense much like giving ISIS brides Passports to come back to Australia and then trying to cover it up and deny giving assistance... Paterson usually gets it right imo and while he can be over the top wanting detail and pedantic about scoring political points Id rather that than letting these incidents be covered up and buried by the Government..
That's why the Libs are in the doldrums!
A Criminal Justice Visa is granted by the Department of Home Affairs so that an immigration detainee can be kept in the country to face charges. It's routine and there's nothing unusual or untoward about this. They were granted bail by the court, as is usually the case for non-violent offenders who aren't flight risks. The Government doesn't determine who gets bail.
The ISIS brides are Australian citizens and the Australian Government has no choice but to issue them with replacement passports. It's the law.
Paterson doesn't get things right. He fakes outrage over part of the story and ignores the facts.
Non Violent Offenders/Flight risk?....one from a neighbouring country has connections to a criminal bikie gang and the other main offender is an Indian National, Id view both as risks to leave the country... The ISIS brides are extremists and a threat to the community imo and the Minister has the power to issue exclusion orders.. Under section 17 return permits can be revoked "on the Minister's own initiative". What this means practically is that Australian citizens could, technically, be banned from returning indefinitely which Is what should happen but Tony Burke has promised his Dr mate he will let them back in and wont act in the interests of the country Paterson was on the money exposing the whole mess but unfortunately it seems NSW and Victoria will be having to re-house and pay for these Terrorist Brides to live amongst us...
Chesser’s form was pretty good on Wednesday and he has to be in the selection mix too.
Six, seven or eight debutants will mean a lot of work for Sydney’s opposition analysts trying to figure out how we’re going to play … even if they have Bucky’s training reports.
While we could have four players with just three games between them, we will have brought in three seasoned, established AFL footballers, two of whom may have something to prove.
I reckon we’ve got a damn good chance of knocking the Swans off. 🤞
We have won 2 of our last 20 games at the SCG vs Syd. Our last win there was when Jesus played CHB for Jerusalem (R17 2019). This worries me more than anything else (and the fact that I am heading over to watch the game).
I'll be at John Cain arena watching the basketball so I'll expect you to handle the song at the end of the game and start the boys off with a da da da and do a "Kenny Williams" who was that excitable old fella who used to lead the Swans in their sing along in the dressing room after a win..😉.
Charlie will get every chance to show his wares. He can be mercurial, and a match winner. He can be a bit choosy, and he absolutely will lift against us. Hopefully he's playing on and kicking around the corner because thats when he makes the most mistakes.
Thing is, he wont win the game by himself. Its guys like herney, papley and warner that do it. Amartey likes to play against us too, and Grundy is no mug. Theyre a good side but theyve lost a few contributors and attracted one star. The bottom 6 will decide the outcome of this one.
Let's hope we make them miss Ollie florent and will hayward.
My 23 has seven debutants and I can't see us going in with less that six blokes wearing the CFC monogram for the first time. That has to be some sort of record
Hard to see us winning with the amount of changes to our team but I’m confident we’ll see a strong showing from the new look blues.
I think we are a good chance, Swans have Gulden and Papley not fully fit, are themselves developing/trialling a new game plan to include Charlie and several other tall forwards plus have a coach who is also under pressure for his job and who showed his tactical nous last season isnt fantastic. Haywood and Florent would be keen to impress and extra motivated after being traded out for Charlie and unless we make some diabolical matchup mistakes or lose a key player through injury I'm backing us in to win this game as losing would be such a downer after a bright pre season and several young players making their debuts should inspire the older blokes to pull the finger out and give max effort.
8 million dollar Medicare fraud committed by detainees at the Melbourne immigration centre and they were given Visa's and bail plus allowed out into the community. Detainee tip...So if you are being detained at an Immigration centre the easy way out is to commit a crime and thus win your freedom.
I would take anything Senator James Paterson says with a grain of salt.
The former immigration detainees were granted Criminal Justice Visas; a standard procedure when immigration detainees are charged with criminal offences or required to give evidence in a trial. Depending on the outcome of the court cases, the former detainees will be imprisoned and then deported or returned to immigration detention, then deported.
James Paterson and Andrew Bragg are two of the better performed Liberal Senators imo and yep I know their job as the Libs attack dogs is to drag up dirt on anything Labor do/dont do but the reality is this present Government are great at serving up themselves up on a plate,making mistake after mistake and then trying to cover it up. Letting detainees back into the public who have been charged with serious crimes is horrendous imo and lacking common sense much like giving ISIS brides Passports to come back to Australia and then trying to cover it up and deny giving assistance... Paterson usually gets it right imo and while he can be over the top wanting detail and pedantic about scoring political points Id rather that than letting these incidents be covered up and buried by the Government..
Swans played three talls with Curnow, Amartey and McDonald up forward vs GWS in their last practice game so Id be expecting them to lineup the same with Papley, Rosas and Heeney as their smaller/medium forwards. With Derksen and Dean with zero games between them and Weitering nursing sore rib/s Id be thinking Lewis Young will be in the team as cover and would more than likely be a starter imo. Heeney will be an interesting cover given his marking ability, maybe Florent might get his old teammate but there isnt an obvious matchup, Id be starting Lord on Gulden.....dont care if Lord gets zero possessions I just dont want Gulden getting more than 15-20...
While Derksen and Dean have zero games, they both know what it’s like to play against AFL standard players. That’s not to say that they won’t be overawed by the occasion. I reckon Young will be one of the first defenders named.
I think that some supporters may be judging Cooper Lord harshly. He may not be getting as much of the ball as his fellow midfielders but he’s doing a great job of shutting down an opponent. George Hewett is still putting a lot of work into opposition midfielders but Coops would have to be first choice to play on Gulden.
Agree on Lord, he can work both ways and is a valuable player for that reason and while there seems to be a manic obsession from fans at least about keeping Charlie quiet, its Gulden, Heeney and Warner who need subduing if we are to win the game imho. Its a very winnable game if we dont get too Charlie centric because as we saw vs GWS the Swans didnt send everything to Charlie and spread their goals around so I would be expecting the same this week and keeping the forward entry numbers down is more important than worrying what Charlie might or might not do.
Swans played three talls with Curnow, Amartey and McDonald up forward vs GWS in their last practice game so Id be expecting them to lineup the same with Papley, Rosas and Heeney as their smaller/medium forwards. With Derksen and Dean with zero games between them and Weitering nursing sore rib/s Id be thinking Lewis Young will be in the team as cover and would more than likely be a starter imo. Heeney will be an interesting cover given his marking ability, maybe Florent might get his old teammate but there isnt an obvious matchup, Id be starting Lord on Gulden.....dont care if Lord gets zero possessions I just dont want Gulden getting more than 15-20...
8 million dollar Medicare fraud committed by detainees at the Melbourne immigration centre and they were given Visa's and bail plus allowed out into the community. Detainee tip...So if you are being detained at an Immigration centre the easy way out is to commit a crime and thus win your freedom.
Jacinta Allan was democratically elected to Parliament as the member for Bendigo East but became Premier as she was chosen unopposed as Leader of the Labor Party after Andrews stepped down. She wasnt elected as Premier Elect initially which I think is the point Shawny was trying to make.
Once again, all State or Commonwealth leader are elected/appointed by their parties. That's the Westminster democratic process in accordance with all Australian constitutions and conventions. Jess Wilson was elected Leader of the Opposition by the Parliamentary Liberal Party, not the Victorian electorate. That doesn't mean that she's not the democratically elected Leader of the Opposition.
Of course, the Greens take their leadership one step further and all party members get to vote for the leader.
There's plenty to criticise about Jacinta Allan without falsely claiming that she's not the democratically elected premier.
Thats part of what I said, yep its all Democratic but thats not what Shawny was arguing imho, Allan didnt enter the election as Premier and as I suggested a lot of voters often vote for the personalities/leaders rather than knowing too much about the policies. For all Andrews failings as Premier of which there were many, varied and sordid he was an excellent political tactician and salesman and while Labor still would have bolted in to win the election, Labor voters got something different than what they voted for with Allan steering the ship after Andrews did his job and made sure they were re-elected.
How are you and others being tolerant of Shawny's views? This thread was created to mock him.
I understand this thread was created to enable @shawny to post his political views here without cross posting on pretty much every thread. No different to the RedTrump thread, of the EV thread, they are nothing more than a filing cabinet? But even so, that doesn't give license to anyone to post fake news or false claims without opportunity for others to redress.
So how are we being intolerant?
Its a football forum where fake news, rumours and innuendo reside comfortably and multiply in number because its all part of the landscape of public forums. It seems we can all agree and disagree on football matters and none of it is taken too seriously and posters move on but Politics seems to be a sensitive topic that is extra divisive. FWIW I enjoy Shawny postings and see nothing fake about what he draws attention too and Political Parties do get elected in many cases imo based on the personalities/leadership/selling of rather than the policies. eg How many people could tell you what One Nations major Policies were? but I bet they could tell you who is their leader and what was his/her previous employment... Jacinta Allan was democratically elected to Parliament as the member for Bendigo East but became Premier as she was chosen unopposed as Leader of the Labor Party after Andrews stepped down. She wasnt elected as Premier Elect initially which I think is the point Shawny was trying to make.
It's interesting to read about Jeff Kennett calling for an alliance between the Liberals and One Nation, I'd assert the polls are a tad selective to say the least. Kennett is happy to sell the soul of his former party for a dying shot at power. It's an interesting debate of means and ends.
For what it is worth, in Victoria at least, One Nation has become a trove for hard right fundamentalist Christian lobbyists. People who at times can be even scarier than the Neo Nazis that hide among them, perhaps not in violent extremism but at least in oppression, intolerance and persecution. Lobbyists who think racism, homophobia and bigotry are justified by God. They are the other side of the extremist coin to radical Muslim, and my signature line says it all.
Jess Allan well ahead in the preferred Premier polls according to the Herald Sun and I can see the Libs being tempted to do that preference deal with One Nation. Won't matter much with debt soaring and the future bleak for Victorian's it's a Poison Chalice for who ever wins.
The main reason we struggle is most of the other countries prioritize the short format games and put their resources into where they can make the most money. The players all cross pollinate into the different high paying leagues and it's test cricket now which is the novelty game for a lot of nations. How many players can play test cricket compared to the number playing in short format teams. Italy won their first WC game, two brothers from Sydney Australia with Italian heritage led the way...
I reckon that the main reason we struggle is that we send undermanned and under-prepared teams.
I think I'll barrack for Italy now
The Italian team has a bit of a world eleven look to it but has a strong Australian flavour with two sets of brothers..the Mosca's and the Manenti brothers, the latter pair have played Big bash and may have played some shield cricket. Curiosity meant I had to google the origins of cricket in Italy and found Admiral Nelson organised the first cricket match in Italy in the city of Naples and the Italian Cricket Federation was started by embassy staff and foreign educators in the 1960's. Of course that led to looking for AFL Football in Italy and I was pleasantly surprised....The 2010 AFL Italia Premiership was the inaugural season for the Australian rules football league in Italy, culminating in a Grand Final on September 4, 2010, at the Capitolina Rugby Field in Rome. Key 2010 AFL Italia Results: Champions: The Roma Blues won the inaugural AFL Italia Premiership (the "Scudetto(Little Shield)"), defeating the Milano Aussie Rules. Grand Final Details: The Roma Blues defeated Milano (who were minor premiers) in a closely contested match. Despite a tight first half (55–54 at half-time), Rome pulled away in the third quarter with 6 unanswered goals, ultimately winning by a margin of roughly 3 goals. Apologies for HiJacking the cricket thread...I am now a Roma Blues supporter....I think Tony DeBolfo had some connection or did an article somewhere on the Roma Blues.
The main reason we struggle is most of the other countries prioritize the short format games and put their resources into where they can make the most money. The players all cross pollinate into the different high paying leagues and it's test cricket now which is the novelty game for a lot of nations. How many players can play test cricket compared to the number playing in short format teams. Italy won their first WC game, two brothers from Sydney Australia with Italian heritage led the way...
@Shawny, you are very anti-labour, which is your right. However, do you think liberals are all squeeky clean with no skeletons in the closet?
Everyone is corrupt
The Andrews Government which Jacinta Allan now leads is the most corrupt I have seen in my years, the Liberals are hopeless and incompetent but have a way to go to match what Labor have done to the State of Victoria. Federally Albanese isnt far off what Andrews achieved and the Liberals under Taylor wont be any different to what Ley or Dutton delivered which was a useless opposition. Its why Pauline and One Nation have gained traction which probably tells you how bad the country is travelling.
Victoria now has its smallest full-time police force in close to seven years despite soaring crime and government promises to boost frontline officers...think I read in the HS we are 1700 officers down on where we need to be. A family member was a Detective but has gone back to being in Uniform for the massive overtime that is being offered...
