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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
No doubting Moir's ability, but I wonder if he was dropped for his defensive efforts.

I think Flynn Young will surprise a few.
Agree on both  players..Moir needs to learn that defensive side to his game and has similar traits to Bayley Fritsch, if Moir is kicking goals then I can wear less defensive work like Melbourne have with Fritsch but he has to learn in the seniors imo not the VFL where he can have an ordinary day and still look good.
Young is a crafty forward and opportunist with good skills and in a team that lacks consistent efficiency down forward thats one area where he does excel as he is an efficient converter. Again the question is does he do enough when we dont have the ball and need defensive pressure to stay in the game. Frankie Evans is probably missed in that regard as he was giving us a two way game...
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
2023 did us more harm than good imho, it was a false dawn that allowed the club to continue on the same road to nowhere.
We are not an innovative club but more of a reactive club and like a mug investor usually late to the party when the big money has been made and in our case are trying to play catchup to the modern game with still an old list(6th in the league).
There doesnt seem to be a long term plan just a reactive change of direction every year or when the media decide we are no good again and we need to appease the critics.
Unfortunately Shawny is probably right and we will need another cleanout of sorts and thats going to be difficult with Tassie commanding the draft and probably the trade period with their extra money to tempt off contract players.
Cripps and Harry are players who I would look to cash in on while they still have some value and I think both need a change of scenery anyway for their own careers...Harry in particular might give us a good return if he was interested in Tassie as a good place to make some extra money.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
I would have persisted with Moir and Reidy, both are young and the future, we are probably at an inflexion point of deciding whether to prioritise trying to win games now to save the coach or trying to develop a team that can contend properly in a couple of years time. Players like Acres, Haynes, Fogarty, McGovern wont be long at the club and yep they may help squeeze some wins out vs the Tigers, WC, Nth, Essendon but they really are just roadblocks to younger players developing quicker imo and Id be wanting a focus on youth and that probably means a few heavy defeats.
A player like Chesser who probably doesnt warrant a place at the minute needs to be played and given the chance to develop, I wasnt a huge fan of his recruiting but now we have him he needs to be played and persisted with in a few different roles imo...same with Reidy and Moir who were given the one game vs the Swans then dumped, thats ridiculous imo.


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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
how Bad is our recruiting first sos and now nick Austin 
Is it the recruiting? Is it the coach?, is it both? or is the off field not right so the onfield will never be right?
You never know with Carlton as its a game of snakes and ladders just up and down, no one can be definitive on what is the major problem. As Clarkson recently said its hard to drag a bottomed out club back up the ladder and we have tried or copied every method and now are in the Collingwood premiership year moneyball plan where we have made a number of list changes on the cheap to initiate change of game style in contrast to fellow perennial strugglers Stkilda who have sold the farm to change their fortunes. There doesnt seem to be a one size plan that fits all that guarantees success....
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Perspective. We went into that game with everything to lose, and the Tiggers went into the game with nothing to lose.

We were also copping a pile-on from critics, media and disgruntled, loud fans.

We're also changing game style. And positional changes for some.

We're also blooding many newbies.

We also had a few critical passengers, Chesser, Fogarty and Ollie in particular, last night.

When serious pressure comes, individuals and groups, 'resort to type.' For years this has been on display... third qtr debacles the resultant symptom. That's going to take time, plenty of time, to eradicate. Moving from sh*tting yourself under pressure to inviting and being hungry for pressure is a great task and shift. Between the lugholes. I saw a small step forward in that final qtr. The goal would be to thrive on pressure.

I really don't feel as negative as many. We're a work in progress to change many bad habits and create many great habits. This is a new Carlton and a big paradigm shift. Starting again, in some respects. We'll know so much more in a month or two, so, personally my expectations are shelved ...so as to see, objectively, how we're progressing well down the track.

Our boys needed that win, and got it. Yes, a 'great escape' but a win nonetheless. Any side with their collective tails up is hard to beat.
I was expecting a big rebound,we had the advantage of already playing one game unlike the Tigers who were having their first hit out. A media pile on should have generated a real response but that lasted a quarter and our second half was putrid.
Celebrating that win vs a bunch of kids and  and carrying on like we were premiers was something a bottom team would do.
Robert Walls would have had the boxing  gloves out this week...it's just hard watching a Carlton team struggling to play a decent brand and now acting like a bottom club as well.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Some of the whipping boys did OK tonight 🙄

Zac Williams was good in defence and when he went forward.  No midfield minutes this week but Vossy must be rapt to have such a versatile player.

Lewis Young was crucified by the umpires but took some crucial marks and made some critical spoils.  It was good to see him throwing his weight around and supporting his teammates.

Mitch McGovern was good as a forward and when he went back. His work as a forward probably set up or win and his work in defence helped save the game.

Matt Carroll continued on from where he left off last season and any question marks over his selection were answered in full.

Campbell Chesser was probably the least impressive of the whipping boys but still had a decent game.




Thought Chesser was very ordinary with his  disposal but Ollie Florent was even worse with nine turnovers and  I can see why Cox
had him in the twos. When your only job is to distribute the ball he has to do better than nearly a 40 % turnover rate especially with zero tackles.
FWIW I'd suggest Acres will replace Chesser for the next game..
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Tigers are a bunch of rebuild kids and battlers, as MBB said we should take care of them easily and have a big win imo. I don't expect to see us defending for our lives in the last quarter or blown away in one quarter like last week.
Need a good win for confidence and while the media probably won't be impressed with anything we do at least we might get the club off the front and back page of the papers and settle a few people down .

Agree however i thought exactly the same thing when we played them in R1 last year and when we played the roos.

Despite our clear edge in quality if you compare the 2 squads fielding tonight that in itself counts for little and we are far from a certainty to get the 4 points if we are basing it only on that. Tactically we are bottom 4 and evey team that plays us knows that are never out it and if they get a run the flood gates will open. 

We are a fickle club at the best of times and my worry is the players no longer believe in as he has idea what levers to pull (oh except put cripps forward) if the game is not going to plan.

My heart says it will be a 10 goal win but this current list finds new ways to disappoint me so until the game is beyond doubt im far from confident   
Understand your thoughts Shawny but I'm trying to remain positive  for these next few games or it's going to be a miserable long season if we can't get to 3-1 and at least know we are no worse than last season and
with a bit of luck can progress a bit further.
Seems there is always another disaster waiting around the corner for the Carlton football club so we need to bank a few wins and hopefully ride the bumps.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Tigers are a bunch of rebuild kids and battlers, as MBB said we should take care of them easily and have a big win imo. I don't expect to see us defending for our lives in the last quarter or blown away in one quarter like last week.
Need a good win for confidence and while the media probably won't be impressed with anything we do at least we might get the club off the front and back page of the papers and settle a few people down .
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Very weak looking Richmond team without the likes of Vlastuin and Prestia, surely we cant lose this game and should win easily by 5 goals plus imho. They have a pedestrian midfield with Taranto, Hopper, Ross and seem devoid of matchwinners so I dont see our mids having the same pressure they faced last week vs the star studded Swans midfield group.
Cripps, Hewett, and Walsh should get 35 plus possies each this week and for me the interesting duel will be vs Pittonet and Nankervis slugging it out in the ruck..
Im predicting we have at least one big quarter and pile on the goals with Harry kicking a bag...
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
^^

Not the AFL's fault that Melbourne has become a place that is not that desirable to live in anymore.  Between the traffic, the volume of works, and sheer annoyance at all the reducing speed limits, parking times, and how much harder it is to get anything completed, its no surprise AFL players who have the means and the motivation to flee are. 

This is where the clubs need to work hard to keep their players happy, and COVID did a number on Melbourne that it hasnt recovered from.

I do love where I live, but I dont live in inner city melbourne, and stay away from the city as much as possible.  Perhaps thats why Hawthorn, St. Kilda, and Footscray are having a better time of attracting people lately. 
Off topic but I went to Syd on the weekend, from a tourists point of view, it craps on Melb in every way (cleanliness, lack of graffiti, rough sleepers, drug affected people in the CBD, ease/availability of public transport). Im talking about the CBD of course, our CBD is a dive by comparison). You listening Mayor Reece?
Trains are really good in Sydney and having that station under the Airport is great, Roads and driving not so much...maniacs who hate Vic drivers and tolls everywhere.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
The back half defense holds up ok but the problem is the defensive skills of our midfield doesnt.....Gulden and Heeney had high tackle numbers the same cant be said for our mids who dont apply much pressure when they dont have 1st use, we have too many one way players in the middle of the ground. Then you look at our forward pressure which was also non existant...Fogarty didnt have one tackle and he is employed solely as a pressure forward and Ainsworth had one tackle...
Its the not the defense, its the rest of the team who pick and choose when to defend  so the opposition mids and running half backs just stroll around unhindered and do what they like leading to the avalanche of forward entries and defenders bewildered by the pressure.
Cripps, Hewett and Walsh in the middle doesnt work as a group when defense is required, you look at Gold Coast and they have a main midfield of Anderson, Rowell and Miller who can win the footy, attack, defend and carry the ball....our group cant do the latter two skills well enough for long enough against quality opposition.

The bold is why we got rid of Kennedy. It has some merit. BUT, you gotta get replacements in to compliment that.
Yes, Jagga is one.....and an expensive one given what we gave up for him. Ditto Walker in 2027. But essentially waiting 2-3 years to get replacements is time we can't afford to wait.
In the meantime Charlie/Jack is gone. Weitering/Harry are another year closer to the end without real replacements yet. Cripps is definitely not going to recapture his Brownlow form at his age and they will be like ships passing in the night.

We need some urgency with list management decisions so we have an elite core group all around at the same time to be a genuine flag contender.

Unpopular opinion, but i'd be seeing what deal West Coast can do for Cripps at seasons end. I love the bloke as much as the next guy, but looking at whats best for the club......and maybe that is it.
I'd agree on Cripps, I think one of the main three has to make way for a player who can be that two way player , maybe it's Cody Walker. Walsh is locked in as the next skipper and long term and I think Hewett is the better defensive player than the other two. Imo a trade for Cripps could benefit both player and club, he will go down as a all-time great at the club but he looks like he has run his race, looks frustrated and in need of a fresh start Imho .