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HOF playing later this season is great for us and the kid.

Quote from: Baggers – on May 21, 2026, 09:14:08 am

A very different 'parting of the ways' to the usual straight forward sacking. And that takes some time to get our collective heads around. The senior coach tendered his resignation, which was accepted. The senior coach was/is loved & respected by players and all staff at PP. Everyone from the club speaks highly, publicly, of Vossy. This is not normal for many who need to have a good guy and bad guy. Everyone's a good guy in this unique scenario. Heads explode! And some busy themselves, still, hunting for a guilty party in all this. Newsflash: it's done, time to move on.

Perhaps.

The same style press release was issued in regards to Austin....yet within the week he was seeking legal action to sue the club for sacking him.

So the club has proven to tell porky pies, on the same day no less, so is it plausible that they told 2 'lies' on the same day? Absolutely.
Regardless, i think its more like...."You are done here. You choose how you want to go out." Vossy chose that way.

Yes, its all done and dusted. Thats not the story though.

The story is the guys who pulled the trigger......or accepted the resignation after pointing a gun to his head.
Did they do the right thing.
As above, PR spin is working wonderfully.....except the austin part.....but was it actually the right decision? Time will tell.....but most likely not reveal itself at all, look at the past 25 years of coaches.

I said the week before Vossy was sacked that i expected a few more wins in the coming weeks, this being the most likely. Next week being also likely.
So he's timing was off, he may have saved himself, but it appears the decision was already made, so there was no point.

Thanks EB - when discussing discretionary trusts, it is probably important to distinguish them!  Without having looked at this, I assume that the recipients of distributions would receive the franking credit?

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on May 19, 2026, 05:39:12 pm

Gentleman Jim and Albo will want a piece of that inheritance money. They want to pillage Discretionary trusts and bring in a death tax by default. A lot of small business people who use DTs for distributing income  as well as will money when appropriate will get hit and switching to a fixed trust is going to cost you tax and stamp duty in some cases. Albo tried to explain it but doesn't have a clue and most of the real wealthy won't be affected...

Your last 1/2 sentence is the only correct bit of all that, the rest is hysteria.

LP - the only way for my kids will be through inheritances that we will get in the next 10 years or so. I think the boat has sailed for those that aren't in such a fortunate position. I don't understand how people can repay $3k a fortnight ($1m loan) or $2.4k ($0.8m loan)

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on May 19, 2026, 03:58:33 pm

Tanking for Dougie...

Partially.

Does that make us dumber than port?

Quote from: pew2 – on May 19, 2026, 03:54:18 pm

like i said we beat a injury riddle wbd side by 12 pts , if we can beat  port then i would be more convinced .i hope we do.

Port are going worse than the doggies

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on May 17, 2026, 03:10:55 pm

I guess where we differ is our opinion of the list, I think its terrible, slow, poorly skilled, unbalanced, wrong age profile/games played for a bottom team and built for a gameplan that Noah designed before he built the ark. The sacking of Agresta and Austin would tell me that Wright isnt convinced either and wants changes and im sorry but Id be trading Cripps and a couple of others while they have value. A few sugar hit wins like we saw with David Teague just wallpapers some massive cracks imo and leads us to another false dawn . I want a rebuild of the list, draft picks to help fix it and a List Manager who knows what he is doing.
To me making a wildcard final game would be the worst result as the club would think it has the list moving forward and  the cycle will start again and another coach will have his head on a stick outside ikon park in a couple of years.
Strip it all back, new coach, new captain, new leadership group, new List Manager and do it right...

EB I'd be ecstatic to make a Mickey Mouse wildcatrd final but we MUST NOT lose sight of the fact there is much work to do. That work is motion now and must not be deviated from no matter what the season ends up looking like. Your last sentence is it in a nutshell whether we win all, some or none of the remaining games. Wright and Davies arent dumb.

Quote from: PaulP – on May 17, 2026, 03:07:17 pm

I tend to agree.

Yes
I also agree
The point is that Voss's departure is being framed as a 'sacking' rather than a failure to renew a contract.
Now, you can argue "little difference" ...the end result is the same.
But there is a difference... in terms of who determined the timing of that decision.
We will write that the club determined that timing, and over the years that will become "we sacked Voss midway through the year," when in fact the timing and method of his departure was determined by Voss.
He went out on his terms, at a time of his choosing.
Which version do you think he would prefer?

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on May 17, 2026, 03:10:55 pm

Strip it all back, new coach, new captain, new leadership group, new List Manager and do it right...

And that is the recipe we've been following since Parko retired