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I reckon MacRae might wear some heat before the year is out as well, the filth aren't travelling well and their list is skinny.

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on April 07, 2026, 01:29:51 pm

Adelaide copping it in the SA media on the rebound too makes it harder, a competitive 4 quarter effort might be the best we can hope for. That three prong tall forward line looks menacing for the Crows without Weitering, if our midfield are not firing its going to be difficult for Derksen, Haynes and L.Young.

They crashed out of finals in straight sets after wining the minor premiership and have won 1 game like us. Their coach with that list should be under way more pressure than our bloke yet....
Where are the calls to sack Nicks?

I think one of Saad or Wilson will also play.

Quote from: Baggers – on April 04, 2026, 07:33:46 pm

Seems to me the club had the long game in mind...

Yeah, their long game is 25+ years and counting.

As best as i can tell their best option is to hope all 18 other teams fold.

I must confess that I really don't see any useful point in, "If only we had Charlie, JSOS and TDK." We don't have them any longer. Right, wrong, good, bad... they aint at PP.

Seems to me the club had the long game in mind, bringing in draft picks and stopgap players when trading/letting go those 3... that's their strategy it seems and it'll be some time before they can be judged on that.

We have to work with what we have and so far this, in every game, we've been in winning positions... so, talent wise, we can do it, but then we blow it. Not easy to create cohesion between so many new blokes in 4 games!

Talk of sacking the coach is silly. Who is going to take his place? Ash Hansen **cough, splutter**? Patience Grasshopper.

Not sure if it's been mentioned but Hayward has been given a week for his hit on Wardlaw.

We dont need a dial mover.  North brought in Luke Parker.  Hes not a gun anymore but he commands respect is a fine player, and was once one of the games best players and knows what it takes to climb the mountain.

Thats the one place we have stuffed it across the journey.  The only player of that ilk we've recruited is nick haynes.  Whilst he's a fine player he was never one of the games best.

Others import leadership when they need some, we are still relying on the understudies of chris Judd and losing dochertys leadership likely hurt us more than any of the talent that walked out. 

Id try him out of the square as a leading FF

The "high cost" of this or that which is the typical media message is really a drop in the ocean. Media always talk total$ because the big number seems alarming or scary, but the reality is it's something like $0.05 per person per annum and the payback is many times that.

I've heard on the radio the other day RedTrump dropped the equivalent of one full year of a NASA budget in the first week of the assault on Iran and got nothing to show for it other than debt!

btw., When the US media bang on about waste and how much the US spends, and why aren't others helping, they ignore to inform the US audience that about half of the bill is being footed for the Artimis project comes from foreign governments or investment. Yet when a foreign government or entity uses inclusive language about "us" or "we" the US media will claim it's all America.

Did you know if you want to sell IP into the USA, the IP must conform to US law, meaning no matter who holds that IP it has to be in a single name and they have to effectively sign over right of access to the US government, and they have the gall to assert China are crooks! If the IP has any use at all to the US military they will develop local capability and chop out foreign supply, and they have done on items as wide ranging as food packaging and CAD software. I know a person in Melbourne who developed CAD software used in advanced manufacturing, he held the IP globally but the US used it's law to develop a local capability with a contract handed out to a big US company. The Melbournian still made good money out of it, tens of million, but the US company made billion$.

The same thing with the US assault on Iran, some significant percentage of the US munitions come from other countries including Israel, ironic isn't it that Israel profits by dragging others into the fight, the US media just claim it's all America. Some of the air defence systems they use cost US$20M per round fired, and they spray them around like air freshener! Keep that in mind when you hear RedTrump begging for assistance!

The thing that has me perplexed is, that apart from perhaps Pittonet, the youngsters playing their first games... who else is looking better than they did last year?

We argued over the summer about the quality of the list. As it is we control games for long periods before the 'bogeyman' comes out of the closet and makes a home in the player's heads. But even if you accept that the list is poor the question has to be asked...
"Is the coach getting the best out of this list?"...and that's what will determine Voss's future.

Not everyone is going to improve, some will decline, but to see no improvement at all across the board is a bit strange.
You can't put that all down to the loss of TDK, Curnow and Silvagni...the last two were missing towards the end of last year. Curnow was sub par for most of the year.

The lapses are now so ingrained I doubt opposition coaches even have to mention it, the players across the league know it. Our players know it and are full of self doubt.

Will we persist with Voss for much longer? I think the catalyst will be when we have a game when we are totally uncompetitive. With games against stronger teams coming up that's a real possibility. As it is, it wouldn't surprise if they moved sooner rather than later. Some sort of circuit breaker is needed. Voss has been clear about this seperation from the past years and this year. A fresh start, a new approach, but it's gone a bit stale pretty quickly.

'Ownership' seems to be the  buzz word at the moment, Voss used it again in his press conference. The players say "it's on us" but when the going gets tough...the tough aren't going and become more like spectators in some cases.

There were a couple of key moments towards the end. The loss of Weitering was one, and there was a time when Pittonet was off the field for a spell (I'm not sure for how long) and they got a couple of very easy wins in the centre.

The next three games will see a step up in the quality of opposition and a bit of travel. There's a chance we'll catch one of them off guard, that's the type of result that can swing a season, but poor results in all of those games or no resolution of the second half fade-outs and some changes will be set in stone.