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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
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yep sad but true.

He will never get another coaching gig and will be gone by mid season bye imo.
That loss was squarely on the players (e.g. skipper was the prime offender), they went to water as soon as some pressure was applied. EOS.
I agree the loss was on the players and the skipper and senior players let the team down but we all know who the fall guy will be.FWIW I wouldn't have continued with Cripps as captain and made the change to Walsh when he got his forever contract...
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
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He got through 2025 pretty unscathed.
But had 5 hamstring injuries in a 12 month period prior to that.
Out again now with a hamstring.
Is that issue solved or ongoing.
Will he be straight back in or have to spend some time in the VFL.

Just on Jagga...he was good, but there were times that he was also guilty of some rushed and scrappy disposal and easily brushed aside.


In Jagga's case, a few nerves probably kicked in, hence the rushed disposal. That'll soon change.
He had 6 turnovers but thats very forgivable in your 1st full real game and as you say they were rushed kicks due to nerves and some quality opposition who were hunting our players after half time and his comrade senior players and leaders were giving us nothing but donuts during the onslaught so he was on his own and must have wondered what he got himself into.
He is a light bodied player too and was brushed aside at times and thats going to take a couple of preseasons to remedy  and probably why his mate Sam Lalor was picked at No 1 because he was a readymade.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
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There is the navy blue glasses i speak of.

Cerra....
2020, 2021, 2022 - best 22 under 22
2020-2023, 2025 - top 10 B+F (2024 - 4-5 hamstrings)
2020, 2025 - top 3 in B+F

FYI, in 2020, Cerra was 20.

Lord....
*crickets*

Lord was 20 in 2025.


Again, i've got nothing against him, not everyone will be superstars. I just think he needs to lift his game.....and zero tackles and poor disposal will not endear him to the MC.

The problem is you seem to want them all to be superstars.
It ain't happening.

If Lord was given  a job to do on a Sydney player and didn't do it, he may be in strife, otherwise he'll back up again next week.

FYI he had career high disposals and inside 50s on Thursday night...so yep..he's on the improve.

Its not what Lord was doing imo its what his opponents were doing and that applies to Cripps, Hewett, Walsh and Smith as a collective. The collective got fried after halftime and the reality is the Swans have their superstars in the middle of the ground and you have to have the quality to match them and we dont because our mids cant defend.
You look at Gold Coast and we will have similar problems with Anderson, Rowell, Miller, and now Petracca, its going to be more of the same as what we faced with the Swans, we need more two way players in the middle, those first three GC players rack up the possies but also can defend and rack up the tackle numbers and are quality users/finishers.
The Cripps, Hewett, Walsh one way contested only setup isnt going to deliver consistent results and will fail vs quality two way players. Lord is a two way player but isnt at the same level as those I have discussed but he is a good B grade player who does his job but he isnt there to compete vs Heeney, Warner, Anderson, Rowell etc thats Cripps, Hewett, Walsh and then Smith/Walker down the track...
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
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i read a few quotes from Chad Warner saying that Sydney went in with a specific plan of exploiting "our lack of outside run." I'd be curious to know why it took nearly 2.5 quarters to put this plan into effect.

There's a theory going around that they paced themselves in the first half and held a bit in reserve  absorbing the best we could throw at them. It was curious how they held Papley back. The commentators seem to know the minute he would be injected into the game.
We tired noticeably in  the third term and they ran over us. It seemed to align pretty much with Docherty's comments about how we play.
It was the number of interchanges the Swans wanted to make...they only made 23 in the first half and then made 52 after half time
to wear us down with fresh players. It was excellent coaching so Im not convinced Cox had anything to do with it, maybe Goodwin who was praised for his rotation management in 2021 when they won the premiership.
Unfortunately we dont have the innovation or nous in the coaches box imo to be over inventive which you need to be at times to give you an edge..
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
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I don't get all the hate for boyd.
Clearly not rated by the mc.
Not well liked by our own supporters.

I don't know if it's got to do with him painting his nails or something equally nonsensical, but a his user of the ball who likes getting physical and flying the flag is something we could use at afl level right now.

To me he looks to play better at afl level. Maybe it's the pristine surfaces of afl over vfl that helps his kicking, but given newman, saad, cowan, carroll (williams?) All out and/or struggling....give him a go
Id have Boyd in for the injured Saad..
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
 I like Lord because he plays both ways and will try negate his opponent as well as win his own ball. If you are free wheeling mid who doesn't bother what your opponent is doing then you need to be 30 plus in possessions and have high numbers  in scoring involvements, goal assists and low turn overs.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
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https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/police-respond-to-incident-at-melbourne-railway-station-20260306-p5o8ar.html

Machettes were involved again. Word is the 22 YO deceased man was not part of the initial fight between the teenagers but stepped in to try to deescalate things. Terrible and reality is 3 out 4 are under 18 so very likely will be out on bail walking the streets in coming days.

Police station is literally 300m from where this occurred but due to cuts is no longer manned 24hr.
 
Victorias debt is now 160 billion and goes up every hour by 1 million dollars plus. There is a shortfall of police numbers of about 1500 forcing the closing of Police Stations. Recruitment can't keep pace with demand, the crims are winning.
Only way out for Victoria is if the Federal Government bail out the Allan Government but Albo doesn't want to know and said he is responsible for his budget so no help there.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
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Voss in his presser said he is confident the game plan will stand up as it did in the pre season games.

Surely he doesnt believe what he said there. both Geelong and Brisbane play pre season games with the least concern regarding intensity and purely use them as management games to get minutes into their players. to judge a system in that sort of game is pointless.

Putting cripps forward to start the second against a midfield of heeney warner guiden is asking for trouble and then to just sit idle without a single tactic to slow things down when the ball was streaming out of the middle is bewildering.

Why not try a hard shutdown role on Guiden when he was cutting us up. We just let him continue on his merry way.

Voss has a new group of assistants this year including a premiership coach to help him yet first game of the year and our opponent scores the 3rd highest quarter score telly in the history of the game and all without a single strong tactical move to try and halt it.

Nope hes not the man that should be leading us and when we sack him cause its a matter of when not if,  he will never be a senior coach again.
Yep, you can't go by pre season games and it's hard to change the game plan when your main midfield group are the players who lack the mobility to contain the opposition spread and get exploited the further the game goes..
You watch Gold Coast and their mids are contested types but who also have pace and I think this is where we need to recruit some new blood..
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
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Danger game

Tiges will believe they can beat us - if we play like last night they will beat us again
I'd expect a rebound from our blokes and a good win. Wouldn't change the team much apart from replacing injured players either..
Been talk we approached Craig McRae who said No before commiting to Voss to continue for this season and the club need to show everyone is on the same page and get a win to dial the pressure down.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Nothing new in Sam's analysis imo, everyone knows if you can match us in the contested stuff even trailing at half time then you will get your chance to run us off our feet and control the game .It's the same old game plan with a few quicker players sprinkled on the outside as David King alluded to on SEN...
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Alistar Clarkson recently came out and said how to tough it is to drag a struggling team off the deck and how bottoming out will be a think of the past:
Interesting comments on StKilda:
"The game is as tough as it has ever been. You only need to go to Essendon, Richmond, West Coast, North Melbourne, a couple of others perhaps to see that. You see what's happened with St Kilda, it's nearly like you've got to do something absolutely out of the box radical to break this mould of getting yourself out of the bottom eight or 10 sides in the competition and give yourself a chance to get into the top part.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1471514/whats-realistic-in-a-rebuild-why-north-melbourne-kangaroos-coach-alastair-clarkson-says-bottoming-out-will-never-happen-again
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
I went to the basketball at JC Arena and didnt watch the game live and have just watched the replay today and it was really a rinse and repeat of the previous Swans game and many other games from last season where we were competitive but poor forward line efficiency again cost us a decent half time lead. We had control around the contest but fiddled with the ball, bombed it and couldnt hit the hard kicks to our forwards.
Once the Swans evened up the contested work in the middle the game swung and their better players took over. The lack of defensive pressure and ability to find a man when we were under pressure from their clearances was the same as previous years and it was a procession of goals.
Cripps got frustrated and lost his cool and I think there has to be some talk of him relinquishing the captaincy as its affecting his game. We also have the same problem that our initial contested midfield group in Cripps, Hewett and Walsh are out of the game once we lose the clearance and the opposition players like Heeney, Gulden, Warner just run away with no pressure leaving our defense on the back foot hoping that entry pass wont hit the target but thats not going to happen with quality like what the Swans have running the ball in.
Gulden and McInnerney had 24 scoring involvements between them...thats unacceptable as was the tackle count numbers but I guess if you cant catch the players you cant tackle them.
Positives...Pittonet did a good job on Grundy and was handy down forward but any game where your normal non goal kicking ruckman is your best forward thats not a great indication of your forward line operating well.
Smith and Dean......thought Smith won the ball well and showed he knew what he was doing but the extra pace of the game and quality of his opponents rushed his disposal and being a light body vs the hardened Swans players was a challenge but he was one of our better players imho.
I thought Dean contested well and like his father didnt take a backward step and just needs the gametime and experience playing on senior players but I like what I saw and he will be a player.
Walsh got plenty of ball but probably needs to get more out of his possessions so he hurts the opposition more with his kicking.
re: Charlie looked like the pregame hype affected him, wasnt a factor and looked a bit subdued and thrown out by having to play against his old teammates.
I wouldnt panic and start dropping players yet but the thing that concerned me more was the lack of leadership and resilience of the team when things got tough and if I was Voss Id be singling out my leaders and demanding more of them.
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The Sports Desk / Re: Vale Dennis Cometti
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There is little I can say that hasn't already been said. We are the poorer from his passing.

When I think of Channel 7's present commentators, I truly hope someone like him comes again, because the ones there aren't fit for purpose.
I remember Clinton Grybas, I thought he had the makings of a legendary caller and I thought he would eventually take over the mantle from DC. Alas he is also no longer with us, taken far too soon.
On radio there is no better callers than Whately and Hudson IMO. There are no more annoying callers than Taylor and Brayshaw.
Clinton was very professional and a big supporter of his local basketball club and has his name on the wall in the stadium, nice down to earth bloke and agree he would have been a long time legendary caller.