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Quote from: shawny – on April 19, 2026, 07:14:33 pm

the buck stops with Voss. he is the senior and should have picked this up

and in regards to our past as a guide it has zero relevance to the whether Voss can coach and he cant so should be changed.

it doesnt end there after voss is replaced the whole coaching group needs rejiggijg as a min.

hopefully with new coaching group we will see the true development of players like jagga dean walker (finger crossed). staying with the current set up will yield the same underperforming team year after year after year.

 

The coaching group were replenished 6 months ago but you keep on burning the witches 👍🏼

Joel Amartey is a free agent.

Id probably hunt him and leek aliir going into next season given what happened there.

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on April 19, 2026, 06:02:41 pm

Brisbane won a flag with Morris and Gallop, Id be going two younger KP Forwards with height and must have kicking ability, Harry just misses too many goals and we cant afford that with our lack of system and efficiency imho.

Struggled this year but been pretty good for us. Not going to  jump on him yet.

Step would be to get someone like Walterfrom GC.

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on April 18, 2026, 06:45:20 pm

Agree, he is draft capital and we need to rebuild. His performances are inconsistent and as you say  his concussions make his future uncertain..

Not unless we can get another key forward. Just lost our last one.

Reidy's probably a definite in with Pittonet out.
It's his old club.
He would have rucked against Jackson so it won't be a surprise for him.
That could be a good or bad thing.

I like the idea of Derksen in the forward line.
Just by the nature of his acquisition he'll probably be on shaky ground at the end of the year so he'll be looking to show his versatility.

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on April 18, 2026, 05:00:24 pm

Bit over Kemp and to a lesser extent Harry.
I want to try something different , thought Hayward played his best game vs the Pies and worked hard and I'd be wanting same from Moir with Ison my more stay at home forward.

Harry was playing his best game for some time IMO......but its also a pretty low bar.

Harry gets way too many concussons for a bloke 200+.

I can't see him playing out his contract with us. Still has 4.5years left.

Trade him to Tassie

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on April 18, 2026, 04:44:56 pm

I'd bring in Ison for Kemp and think about Moir too...both have more talent than most on the list and both can kick straight.
Lord, Acres and Hewitt also as ins..

Given that Harry is out, it might be a good time to bring Ison in. Not as a direct replacement, but it'd allow others to shift one up. So Kemp could be Harry and Ison could be Kemp.

Same logic could be used on Moir who we'd likely get more of a return from.

We need to keep checking in with Moir often to see if he 'gets it' yet, because the moment he does, he'll turn games.
I'd be going hard on him in the off-season getting his running up a notch. I'd like to see him get to a stage where he could give a chop out in the middle/on a wing and rest forward. We could use his skills further up the ground.

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on April 18, 2026, 04:44:56 pm

I'd bring in Ison for Kemp and think about Moir too...both have more talent than most on the list and both can kick straight.
Lord, Acres and Hewitt also as ins..

Thats a lot of changes EB, cant see that many being made. Fark it I'd do it thought, nothing to lose.

Ison is half a foot taller than byrne. Hardly like for like.

Not sure Frankie goes around at his listed 6'0" either, but thats for another day

Quote from: madbluboy – on April 17, 2026, 05:33:18 pm

Young did better than Pittonet in the last term.

Young has a better leap on him than Pitto.

Pitto will always be more susceptable to an opposition ruck who can still jump at the end of the game.

Pitto wasn't the problem. He did his job.

He got more clearances than the other 2 rucks combined (5 vs 4).
He got 21 touches vs Cameron 18.
He was leading contested possession getter for us with 12, only Daicos with 16 ahead of him. Cripps had 11.
He was carltons 4th highest supercoach scorer behind, Williams, Walsh and Newman.

If you want to try and exploit him/us, then you do exactly what collingwood did. Get a 'jumper' against him at the end.
Probably helps thats its a relatively new player who he hasn't come across before too.

I got no problems with him being a grinder EB, as long he had others to complement....problem is that he doesn't look like main man type, which we paid for.  Real problem is the rest of the group are one paced or slow, and none are great kicks - Jagga doesn't really bring those qualities.  Walsh has elite work rate and Cripps and Hewitt are gun first handlers/extractors, after that A-grade qualities get real thin

Yea well I don't see it.  For what we paid in draft capital he needs to Ashcroft level.  He plays like a smaller lighter version of Walsh.

I'm not really looking forward to this game after last night's disaster. Freo are playing much better than Collingwood.
Nichevo.

What can we do to change things? Not sure, but I wouldn't be taking Elijah Hollands to Perth: I would have him getting help.