Foregoing an “ev road levy” at this point in time is a strategic move to promote a new infrastructure, a time will come to introduce it but now is not the time. Now is to allow the market to pivot from dinosaur juice to electrons, unless you’re beholden to big oil lp… ?
Agree you cant bring in the road tax now with world events or cut the import exemption, you want those who can afford the change to EVs to still consider it and not be put off by any extra costs. Id also add I wouldnt count on that road tax going back into the road system either...
Drop won't kick in until tanks are re-filled. All petrol currently in the sevo tanks has full excise paid.
People whinge about how much excise there is and whine when the cut isn't big enough.
Next if some economists are right in that cutting excise will increase inflation, hence interest rates - what's the reaction?
Short term I don't see it increasing inflation as fuel will still be expensive and it's not like it will generate a spending spree because average folk will still be out of pocket.
I think EBs point is that the judgement before a ball was kicked in anger was premature expectations.
After 3 games last year our % was 83.3% After 3 games this year our % is 72.9%......and we were luckily enough to hold on and win one of them.
Based on form.....i'm taking last year.
I know its hard to compare, but youre putting words in people's mouths again. Your contention was we'd go backwards where most were saying we wont miss Charlie. Thing is, are we missing Charlie? How about tdk? Or jsos?
Thing is this is what the discussion was.
Not whether or not we'd magically improve. How far back do we slide? Id wager with Charlie in, we might have done a bit better, but tdk was going anyway, and jsos is a hard one to quantify as he only averaged 12 games a season. What if he had missed these ones?
The Melbourne loss might not be as bad as we think, theyve at least got the bones of a premiership side there and some bonafide stars. We have a vanilla team, and we play vanilla footy.
I thought we had an improved team list/ game plan and now we play vanilla footy? Welcome to the dark side....
The argument I heard over summer was the list is much better and better placed and that the new game plan would make us better. Im not sure it's premature, a few of us predicted what would happen. There seem to be this idea that every other team would go backwards and that our brilliant new recruits would change our fortune. Hope you didn't put any money the on the outcome..
I'd call judgement after three rounds in... premature 'expectations'. Both for the team and individuals. We have a long way to go. We started last year 0-4 We're already ahead of that. There's a bit to play out on, and maybe off the field.
We started bad last season but I think we look worse this season. To me we are at rock bottom and back to the dark old days..
Evans hasnt hit the form he had late last season and Haynes is at the backend of his career and looks like its going to be a tough year with injury for him. I think we are worse than last season, at rock bottom and lucky to have one win on the board.
Evans has only played one game Haynes hasn't played any. But that's not the point...the point is that at the same stage last year these two were basically written off as a waste of space, but by the end of the season they would have just about been in everyones best 23.
So criticism of the new additions to the side is arguably a bit premature. Let see how they settle.
The argument I heard over summer was the list is much better and better placed and that the new game plan would make us better. Im not sure it's premature, a few of us predicted what would happen. There seem to be this idea that every other team would go backwards and that our brilliant new recruits would change our fortune. Hope you didn't put any money on the outcome..
But just be a little careful with judging some of the new players at the moment. The chief whipping boys in that thread were Haynes and Evans.
Evans hasnt hit the form he had late last season and Haynes is at the backend of his career and looks like its going to be a tough year with injury for him. I think we are worse than last season, at rock bottom and lucky to have one win on the board.
Labor have backtracked after saying they wouldn't cut the fuel excise last week and have bowed to public pressure and have cut it in half which I think is a sensible move short term.
Limited list talent wise being coached by a man who is struggling with a modern game plan which is foreign to how he really wants the game played and looks like a deer in the headlights when the momentum changes and gets that paralysed look which all Carlton coaches of recent times get. Zero leadership from senior players, the captain looks like he has checked out and I also question our fitness.
The talent wasn't limited in the 1st quarter!!!
The first quarter wasnt as good as it looks, Melbourne made plenty of errors and served up the ball, the first ten minutes was rubbish from both teams. Do we want to live in denial or do we want to face reality that it was a low grade team we were playing and that we still have a poor system. The Richmond game was another horrible game of poor skills despite the bright start, there are about 4-5 teams in the comp who play the worst brand of non watchable football and we are one of them, we play another on Easter Friday. Id rather see a good brand/style of play than an early flurry of goals caused by Nths self inflicted errors, we need to have a good system to fall back on to create our own goals when the other team are not handing us easy goals and thats what we lack...
Agree...Hayward and Ainsworth are handy players but not matchwinners and Id like the latter to spend some more time onball but Chesser and Florent are very average imo and I can see why the Swans let Florent go after signing him to that long deal. Chesser isnt a great contested player and I dont see what the List Management team saw in his kicking either, I thought the real difference in the game showed when the kid Lindsay and Fritsch had the ball along with K.Pickett of course and their footskills just knifed through our defense, hit up players and the goalkicking of Fritsch was A grade.
Fritsch always plays well against us.
Had it been even all game and we lost I wouldve been disappointed but the next day I wouldve said well they still have some excellent premiership players so okay, i wouldve given them that out and sais Kemp is only back after a year off as is Elijah, H is getting used to being the lone tall fwd, new guys are finding their feet etc BUT being 42 pts up and capitulating?! Absolutely terrible.
We look a rudderless mess and even in the 1st quarter I thought it was Melbourne's poor skills and defensive efforts that helped us kick 6 goals rather than any type of brilliant method. As has been discussed at length in the media and on most forums once opposing teams even up the contest at the stoppages we start to fall away and when we have to chase and defend we get overwhelmed with the workrate required to keep up. Individually we have some decent players but as a team we dont look organised or willing to work for each other and we need someone like a Luke Hodge type who can get in players faces and demand more effort and accountability when it gets tough.
Do we need to drop one of Cripps or Hewett to play BenC as a midfielder?
Do we need to? Yes.
Will we? No
So how about this.... Out: HOK. In: Ben C.
Cripps to FF and changing in the ruck.
That way we have another option at FF....and one that can actually wrestle. We can play him as a ruck and have 4 mids in the middle. We give exposure to Ben C in the process.
Fair call...Im not adverse to playing Cripps down forward more especially after half time when he looks gassed. BenC isnt quick but he might run out the game better being younger and I cant see how we can progress into the future with two slow moving mids like Cripps and Hewett who cant keep up with slicker moving players no matter how good a footballers they are.
Given the way we are being swept aside at centre bounces as games progress, I would hope selectors bring in Ben Camporeale for some more grunt. Didn't watch the game, but 27 disposals suggests he is running into some reasonable form.
Wade Derksen could be the obvious choice if Harry Dean with injured shoulder doesn't come up. I would hope they give Dean a good spell and allow his young body time to recover.
B Campo in for Williams who to appeared get injured Derksen (as a fwd) in for either Kemp who needs a spell in the 2s to gain some form Need another defender to come in for Dean if he misses. HOK also needs a spell, give Ready another crack and light a fire under his feet this time. Leave Gov fwd as he appears to be the only functioning tall. Can they fire up Harry into some semblance of competitiveness? Feed him some angry pills for goodness sake.
Derksen in for Kemp, Newman in for Dean... Id probably have Harry as my second ruck, Nth are three yards quicker than we are so Id be loathe to add another slow moving player in the rotation so No to Reidy especially with Xerri out. Flynn Young in for Chesser. Saad in because he has pace and can hit a target but Id play him further up the ground away from a player like Curtis who is ultra dangerous and we cant have all our defenders of the rebound type. Newman to play on Zurhaar. Cowan on Curtis. If our coaching dept have scouted Nth properly they will probably know that Finn OSullivan will probably tag Walsh after doing a great job on Merrett so Voss needs to find a counter or alternatives as we know that Cripps and Hewett will only be plodding after halftime and Id be playing Ainsworth more onball and if Ben Campo plays using him more in the middle.
Both turn over merchants and the opposite of the type of players we need.
On another note if Saints are paying Milera 2M what is Pickett worth. Can rip a game apart like no one else except maybe only nick dacios.
Agree...Hayward and Ainsworth are handy players but not matchwinners and Id like the latter to spend some more time onball but Chesser and Florent are very average imo and I can see why the Swans let Florent go after signing him to that long deal. Chesser isnt a great contested player and I dont see what the List Management team saw in his kicking either, I thought the real difference in the game showed when the kid Lindsay and Fritsch had the ball along with K.Pickett of course and their footskills just knifed through our defense, hit up players and the goalkicking of Fritsch was A grade.
Cripps (omitted) would certainly send a message. I'm not sure whether the repercussions would be positive or negative.
Probably negative but our midfield mix doesn't allow for another blue collar coalface mid imo. It's a shame Cripps and Hewett are typecast to that one position...
Unfortunately, its not new. Even the tigers tried it, they just didnt have the firepower to get on top. Melbourne did it effectively yesterday. Wonder if Clarko will do it. My gut is he wont. He doesnt like dropping that far behind, and will likely play shoot out football.
Nth are terrible and likely to shoot themselves in the foot even if they control the game. The Ess v Nth game was the worst I have seen this season for skills and we might not have to win it so much but Nth will lose it.