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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong


My appreciation of David King's analyses varies considerably but I think that he was on to something when he said that we were one handball short of winning our previous games.  That's one extra handball in each chain of possession and I think that we got there on Sunday.  We are dangerous and hard to stop when we run in waves and use forward handballs to give the ball carrier room and time to get an effective disposal.

One thing I've been meaning to comment on was how Sam De Koning saw the funny side of the smallest bloke on the field using him as a step ladder.  Corey has taken a couple of nice grabs now and will have his opponents thinking about his marking and not just his leading, crumbing and defensive work.
King for mine is a very good analyst, right up there alongside the best. I definitely think we handballed too much to stationary players in the first few weeks which teams cottoned onto use it to their advantage (ie tackled and stopped us in our tracks). I guess we practiced wave running and receiving (no disrespect intended) against WC and NM and applied it against a good side on Sunday. Make no mistake, our kicking lets us down and we need to recruit some elite ball users by foot. The run and HB somewhat covers for that deficiency by as you say, giving the person on the end of the chain more time to execute a good, more measure kick. It also compensates for the lack of real break away leg speed by putting our blokes ahead of the chaser quickly. If you look at some of the kicks into the F50, many were poor and if we tidied that up, we would have one by plenty (yeah I know, grandmother/balls/grandfather).

Same page here, GTC old son.

King seems to actually think things through, not just take situations at face value... and he was right about us, but it was pretty apparent in our first 4 outings - defensively strong (great foundation), but offensive game was soft when confronted with real pressure... handballing to witches hats, panicked sky-high disposals into forward 50, etc.

It was great that the Pussycats hit us with real, quality, sustained pressure -- especially at the beginning of the 3rd and 4th qtrs -- forcing us to 'face our demons' and we responded in the best way possible... and that's the road to being mentally tougher, offensively as well as defensively.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Election 2025 (Poll added)
^^ Seems to be a tactic to make the Liberals look bad.

They left in tears... 

Words are violence these days I suppose.

What has happened to the world we live in?

Confused, 3 Leos. Not sure what you're asserting here and don't want to jump to conclusions. Crying after being bullied is not an unreasonable reaction, or unusual response/reaction... or is that not what you're saying?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Well just watched the Chris Scott media conference post match... and... you'd have thought we were lucky to win, and we only really won because the Pussycats just had 'one of those games' where their mistakes and failures allowed us in.

I see it a little differently, Christopher. If you apply enough effective, sustained pressure to just about any club, they just might make uncustomary mistakes. And if you've got some serious talent on the paddock who can capitalise on those errors...

Rather disingenuous post game summary, Christopher! Scoreboards seldom lie.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Cats were pretty efficient and made the most of their opportunities - kept them in the game for sure. It's definitely something we can learn from and definitely an area of improvement for us. Other than that, it was a pretty dominant performance. All the key stats are in our favour, and we even got the rub of the green from the umps. A good day all round.

Yep. Great day. Still in the hunt, and a few critics given something to think about.

Should have won by more but for some inside our 50 inefficiency - 8 more shots on goal.

Beating a very good side in very good form is especially pleasing. Also good to see Nick Haynes do so well, his intercept game was telling.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL 2025 Rd 5 Carlton vs Geelong at Carlton
Blues win 88-84
Depending on this afternoons results no-one really stood out for promotion and any promotions (knowing the way the selectors work) would probably come from some of the more established
group....Docherty, Pitto or Boyd, who were all good.

Ben Camporeale may be ready for a taste.
Thought O'Keefe had a fair game and could have easily finished with 3-4 goals.
Bit disappointed with Lemmey today.
Binns had a good first half.
 
The rest are still works in progress.
O' Farrell kicked the winning goal, but not a lot else.
Moir kicked a couple and is the type of player who flashes in for cameos, but needs to find consistency and fitness.
Wilson...at the moment I don't think he'll see any senior football this year, and that may see him off the list.

I've given up with selections though. ::)
The best kick on our list of dubious disposers can't get a game.
Evans led our tackle count with 8...that will probably get him a spot next week. :D



Nice summary, Principal Lods. Same page here re Doc, Pitto and Boydy probably enhancing any call-up chance. Ben C... close.

Good win... finally.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL 2025 Rd 5 Carlton vs Geelong at Carlton
Should have been further in front at half time after letting the Pussycats in for a couple of late goals. 5pts up. According to the commentators something of a swirly wind making for some field errors and pretty ordinary shots on goal.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Election 2025 (Poll added)
Qualities of a real leader: Excellent communication skills, Vision, Courage, Empathy, Honesty/Integrity, Self-reflection/Awareness, Ability to Include and Inspire, Intellectual and Emotional Intelligence, Humility and Accountability (there are more!).

I've had the very good fortune over the duration to have met and worked with a number of people who demonstrated those leadership qualities and values. But none of them were politicians.
the ones most capable of leading would never want to.

There was a time when they did. In fact, some of society's most outstanding folks chose a career in politics to serve, to bring about positive change, who cared so deeply about humanity they saw it as an honour to (really) serve.

But, as you point out 3 Leos, who'd want to muddy themselves in the hopeless political mire of opportunism, divisiveness, populism, dishonesty and self-aggrandizement that exists today.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Election 2025 (Poll added)
Qualities of a real leader: Excellent communication skills, Vision, Courage, Empathy, Honesty/Integrity, Self-reflection/Awareness, Ability to Include and Inspire, Intellectual and Emotional Intelligence, Humility and Accountability (there are more!).

I've had the very good fortune over the duration to have met and worked with a number of people who demonstrated those leadership qualities and values. But none of them were politicians.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2025 Post game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Holy mackerel!! :o

I think someone mentioned it previously in this thread. I just watch the game again, and FM if Weiters didn't have his legs taken from under him by a Judo move very late in the 3rd qtr. How the hell can that be allowed. Using Judo to take players legs from under them  will cause serious knee injuries galore if it's allowed to creep into our game. :o

More worried about popping a shoulder when you put your arm out to stop yourself headbutting the turf. Double so because  you've got a bloke on your back riding you down.

Needs to be highlighted and stopped now.
Should've been called for tripping because that's exactly what it was.

I would suggest, K, it is a lot worse than tripping as the variety of potential injuries, as we've both pointed out, are many. Intentionally taking out a blokes legs with a martial arts manoeuvre should be an illegal tackle. Hopefully some sports journo will be onto it and highlight this dangerous 'tackle.' Or someone at our club does.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2025 Post game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Holy mackerel!! :o

I think someone mentioned it previously in this thread. I just watch the game again, and FM if Weiters didn't have his legs taken from under him by a Judo move very late in the 3rd qtr. How the hell can that be allowed. Using Judo to take players legs from under them  will cause serious knee injuries galore if it's allowed to creep into our game. :o
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG
Ah, yes, the Pussycats... a terrific litmus test for any top 8 (or 4!) aspirant.

Our leadership, discipline and mental resolve will be tested. A real 'above the shoulders' test.

Unlike the previous 2 sides, who may have brought real heat for a few minutes here and there, this mob will bring bona fide heat persistently and consistently. And any lapses on our part (eg 2nd qtr v Kangabies), will be severely dealt with.

Optimistic? Nuh.
Hopeful? You bet.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2025 Post game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Amazing the difference getting reward for effort makes. The defensive base has been there all season, just couldn't get reward for effort which sapped confidence, and panicky stuff ensued.

Our first half was reasonably typical, good first qtr, but ordinary second qtr. Would the usual second half follow? Nuh. Lowered eyes going into the forward arc, and small forwards who could deliver made such a difference. Durdin, Motlop and White are developing nicely into small forwards who are dangerous, blokes who are defensively strong and love a goal. And each brings different points of difference/skills.

We took the Kangabies one wood from them, which Clarko commented on. But what really pleased me when watching Clarko talk about the game was that they changed things around but we adapted, absorbed and went about our business, rather than being bereft of ideas when the opposition changed their style and upped the ante. That's a very big difference for us.