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Interesting looking at our own Jim Park voting.
Silvagni was in the votes most weeks he played, but there were a couple of weeks where he was right at the top of the votes for some very good jobs on dangerous key forwards.
So there's no doubt that while it lasted the experiment was working.

One of the things that often gets people a bit confused is that SOS's 'conflict of interest' over his kids was never about favouritism for his boys.
It's not hard to be professional about that type of thing.
I can even believe SOS probably did take himself out of decisions to pick the boys up.
It can sometimes even work to the detriment of the son (or daughter) if your Dad is in charge of an important aspect like list managing as they might be harder on you to deflect criticism.

No, the issue has always been how that coach or List-man deals with the other players in the side.
How would it feel if your Dad was making career ending decisions about your close friends and team-mates
I'm guessing that over the years Jack would probably have heard "You're Dad is a fKn prick" more than once.
Even as list manager for another side where he's plucking quality players from your side it would be more than uncomfortable.
I can understand that as being a situation Jack would have found difficult to deal with over his career.
It's possibly caused conflict with other players and coaches.
He may have even overheard conversations about his dad that upset him.
Was it a big factor in his decision?
I think that is a much better reason for leaving than "I'm looking for a bit of success"

Not much you can say really, some people just take simplistic views… win/loss or flag/no flag you’re either going to be in one camp or another.
Just going round in circles at the moment.

Quote from: LP – on August 06, 2025, 04:42:49 pm

It's the bond market dropping that personally hurts him, it's where he and other billionaires keep their cash, I gather that is why he sacked some people.

Normally the bond market is considered more secure than cash unless the government of the day shoots itself in the foot, bonds are in effect a contract between the government and the buyer!

He sacked his statistician for telling him the truth...US Bond yields affect long term debt around the globe and how much people pay for Business loans, mortgages etc so Trumps economic mistakes affect everyone and fecking up the yield curve affects monetary policy of which Trump has proved to be about as effective at as our List Management.

On a positive note we do have some "Emerald Sprouts" in our under 21 contingent.
The thing with young'uns is they have to develop consistency.
That often takes a year or three.
You won't see it every game.
You won't necessarily see it every quarter of a game.
It might be two players 'shining' one week, a different two another week.
Until they've spent some years playing together and develop that 'team' understanding we may not see the best of them.

It wasn't so long ago I was a bit apprehensive about the future and thought we were putting too much emphasis on the present and not planning for the years AC (after Cripps)... and the Four Horsemen of the 2015 draft.
That seems to have changed quite a bit.
We're not looking too bad when these kids get a few years and games under their belt.

Quote from: crashlander – on May 14, 2025, 08:55:55 pm

It had to be.

Exactly why i said you don't pay him the money he is being talked about.
He can't stay fit.
Never played a full season.

Its a shame, but it is what it is.

Right now, I have faith the MC will pick the side that will give us the best chance of winning and they will have reasons and data to back the selections (they we simply aren't privy to). Of course after the fact (ie hindsight) it wont stop us from professing to have known better.