The VFL don't have a name for their B&F as yet, not in this new iteration. But that will change in time. Anyway, Ethan Phillips won with 159 votes. Darcy Hogg was second, with 106 votes. Harry Lemmey was 3rd with 89.
Best and Fairest – Ethan Phillips (159 votes) Runner-up – Darcy Hogg (106 votes) Third place – Harry Lemmey (89 votes)
Best Young Player – Darcy Hogg Best Clubman – Heath Ramshaw Coaches Award – Flynn Riley Players' Player of the Year – Ethan Phillips
What does this tell us? I'm not sure, as guys who do well here don't always remain with us. Harry Lemmey, for example, has already been delisted.
I'm hoping Darcy Hogg gets a chance to train on, like Will White and others have in recent times. He is small, but he is larger than Tyson Gresham.
Phillips must also be some chance to get a go, as we will need an extra defender until Dean and O'Farrell are ready.
A lot of the placings depend on number of games played. And given none of the top 3 were eligible for promotion or in Lemmey's case didn't get the opportunity that was probably a determining factor.
In Phillips case he still falls under the 'delisted free agent' category so we can just add him if the recruiters feel that way inclined.
I was really keen on Flynn Riley who has played some good games this year....But I read an observation that actually rings a bit true.... "Flynn doesn't jump" and it's essentially correct. It's usually body on body in the ruck contests. Now that could be a disadvantage if they change the ruck rules...still he might be worth a rookie spot.
They're spending has to be legitimate...for the moment. They've essentially got a neon sign and flashing lights saying "Check our Salary Cap, we're spending some outrageous amounts"
While it may be right for the present, as DJC says it will be a challenge in the future. Good luck signing NWM at the end of his current contract.
Their planning seems to be based on a flag in a year or two...or bust. Which is kind of the opposite to the "sustained success that SOS preached while he was with us. That's what Ross would be after before he walks away...that elusive "Premiership coach" tag.
The coach over there isn't a big Carlton fan either having been spurned and asked to go through a process. Dinners must be fun as they air their grievances and plot their revenge
Interesting looking at our own Jim Park voting. Silvagni was in the votes most weeks he played, but there were a couple of weeks where he was right at the top of the votes for some very good jobs on dangerous key forwards. So there's no doubt that while it lasted the experiment was working.
One of the things that often gets people a bit confused is that SOS's 'conflict of interest' over his kids was never about favouritism for his boys. It's not hard to be professional about that type of thing. I can even believe SOS probably did take himself out of decisions to pick the boys up. It can sometimes even work to the detriment of the son (or daughter) if your Dad is in charge of an important aspect like list managing as they might be harder on you to deflect criticism.
No, the issue has always been how that coach or List-man deals with the other players in the side. How would it feel if your Dad was making career ending decisions about your close friends and team-mates I'm guessing that over the years Jack would probably have heard "You're Dad is a fKn prick" more than once. Even as list manager for another side where he's plucking quality players from your side it would be more than uncomfortable. I can understand that as being a situation Jack would have found difficult to deal with over his career. It's possibly caused conflict with other players and coaches. He may have even overheard conversations about his dad that upset him. Was it a big factor in his decision? I think that is a much better reason for leaving than "I'm looking for a bit of success"
If Jack ends up at St Kilda then I think you could put that argument to rest.
Not really...Because it will become an issue there as well. How will the Saints players feel about those list decisions if Jack is well looked after....locked in for years, while their future remains uncertain. Good luck making friends. I think Jack to St Kilda would be a stupid and potentially destabilising move It's also why I hope they do it.
@Lods... The conflict was somewhat made up by liddle who got his feelings hurt when he tried to do his own recruitingnof his Richmond mates and sos shot him down.
Other than that I think it could be 'put in a good word for me' that Jack was burdened with.
Honestly, I think the biggest issue is something nobody has suggested yet.
Stephen may have voiced his thoughts on what the club should be doing and what he would do if he was still there.
I expect it to be something like Stephen saying to Jack.... - No way they should be letting go of a-grade talent like martin - No way they should trade out Mr consistent Kennedy. - One of the biggest holes they have could be fixed by getting Dan Houston and they let him walk to the pies. - they've recruited too many small.forwards when they could've got....that guy.
Ultimately a lot.of what he said comes true, jack sees this and loses faith in Austin and co to build a list properly and jumps ship before it sinks further.
I think SOS's antics since leaving Carlton suggest that the 'villains of the piece' may not have been Liddle and Co alone. I'd suspect there was fault on both sides...but people will come down on the side of a favourite. It could very well have been a clash of the hard headed, obstinate, need to be proven right and grudge holding. These are not necessarily a combination conducive to co-operation...and in all that, the thing that suffers most is the club.
Jack would have a pretty good idea of the talent and worth of his team-mates. In fact he'd probably have a much better idea than SOS who hasn't been at the club for a few years. But it's fair to say Jack's decision may have been influenced by what has happened to 'friends'...and if that's the case he's judging on personal relationships and not what is best for the club.
Interesting looking at our own Jim Park voting. Silvagni was in the votes most weeks he played, but there were a couple of weeks where he was right at the top of the votes for some very good jobs on dangerous key forwards. So there's no doubt that while it lasted the experiment was working.
One of the things that often gets people a bit confused is that SOS's 'conflict of interest' over his kids was never about favouritism for his boys. It's not hard to be professional about that type of thing. I can even believe SOS probably did take himself out of decisions to pick the boys up. It can sometimes even work to the detriment of the son (or daughter) if your Dad is in charge of an important aspect like list managing as they might be harder on you to deflect criticism.
No, the issue has always been how that coach or List-man deals with the other players in the side. How would it feel if your Dad was making career ending decisions about your close friends and team-mates I'm guessing that over the years Jack would probably have heard "You're Dad is a fKn prick" more than once. Even as list manager for another side where he's plucking quality players from your side it would be more than uncomfortable. I can understand that as being a situation Jack would have found difficult to deal with over his career. It's possibly caused conflict with other players and coaches. He may have even overheard conversations about his dad that upset him. Was it a big factor in his decision? I think that is a much better reason for leaving than "I'm looking for a bit of success"
A poster on one of the Facebook pages has outlined some of the major issues of the season. In brief...
-Pick 3 Jagga Smith, does ACL -Newman out for the year -Kemp out for the year -Lose unexpectedly to Richmond in Round 1 -President sends a ‘dick pick’ and ends up resigning -Lose a number of games after leading early. -Miss finals and don't have first or second pick -E Hollands and Harry have mental Health issues. Elijah’s future is uncertain -Harry O'Farrell has best game, Does ACL the following week -Jack Martin kicks 6 in a game, and Matt Kennedy has a very good year -TDK leaves -Curnow wants to leave -Silvagni goes to defence and is playing great football... until he gets injured -Then Silvagni announces he is leaving for darker pastures -AFL hints at changing father son rule the year we have a top prospect in Cody Walker ….and injuries continue to impact heavily on the season. Anything else?
2015 was a planned demolition. We headed for the bottom to maximise draft picks... knowing the coach wouldn't come for the ride. Killed two birds with one stone.
Annus horribilis- No it's not an ugly bum, it's Latin for "Horrible year".
Apart from maybe 2002, can we think of another year that matches the challenges this one has thrown up. We thought last year was bad , but this one was a whole new level.
Starting with season ending injuries to a couple of key players (one a star recruit) through to some unfortunate departures at the finish, this one has been a shocker on and off the field.
Nicola Olyslagers has set a new Australian Women's High Jump record, 2.04 winning the Diamond League final in Zürich. Looks like Lachie Kennedy is injured and won't be competing in the 100 metres at the World Championships.
A lot depends on the quality of the timekeepers, but even with good ones the general conversion rate from hand time to electric is to add 0.24 sec so it's more likely a 10.1-10.2 run And it is "believed it was a legal wind" doesn't sound as though they were sure..
On the positive side it was still a good run and he seems on track to peak at the Worlds, but I'm not sure he will run the 100m Last I saw he was only selected for the 200
There are some pretty good 100 metre runners around at the moment. The 10th fastest time this year is 10.88 But the majority of the top 10 are Americans (5) and Jamaicans (4) Lachie Kennedy is currently 27th with his sub 10.00 run earlier this year. But given the fact it's a three per nation rule he must be a good chance to at least reach the semis if he's in that type of form
The only negative... FFS sound people get a fckng mixer and drive all mics through it so we can hear the damn questions!!!!!
This has come up before (maybe by you) on this site and I whole heartily agree. In fact I even sent a msg to the AFL about this today. It really cannot be that hard.
It's stupid and frustrating...and so easily fixed. Sometimes we don't even know which player the coach is talking about.
