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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Deer in the Headlights
Thanks for the link. I am not sure about the 'harsher penalties' argument as I seriously doubt the people who do this think much before they act. If you are wanting to lock them up for longer, then yes that may be effective - but how do we identify these people, and then how do we find out the motivation? We must stop the cause which is mental in nature.

I think it stated somewhere that some of the fires were started not by deliberately being lit but by carelessness e.g. dropped cigarette, or by a small fire or bbq getting out of control. That would be different, imo anyway, to someone lighting a fire with deliberate intent to cause major damage but the outcome is often the same. Both of these circumstances were included in the figures I understand.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Deer in the Headlights
Do these scientists have access to the crime reports? If so I would love to listen to them on the subject of firebugs and how their activities may impact the overall picture wrt the bush fires.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Deer in the Headlights
Unfortunately in the area where I live all the News Ltd promoted fire bug paranoia has results in vigilantly types patrolling the streets harassing groups of kids and teenagers who are obviously "the fire lighters."

The net result is that everyone is now driving their kids around the area trivial distances instead of them just walking and playing outdoors!

Get that in your carbon sink irony!

Another case of jumping to conclusions by the sound of it. So the fact that firebugs are active should be supressed?
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Deer in the Headlights
It's a curly one, Fluffy One... depends on which media outlet you frequent sometimes as to the news you get. I tend not to give much credence to News Ltd stories as there is a definite bias with their interpretation of stories. The info I read said that though real and a deep concern -- deliberate fires -- what really terrified firies was 'dry' storms etc.

Anyway and either way, I guess the real issue is how fires can now develop from what we're used to or have known for more than a century, to what has recently been described by firies as types of fires they've not seen before and being increasingly difficult to combat, and starting earlier in the 'fire season', and lasting longer.

I guess it is a human trait to believe what you want to believe Baggers. True for people from all walks of life and shades of political opinion. Unfortunately few of us are blessed with the gift of absolute impartiality.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Deer in the Headlights
There's been a couple of those, Fluffy One, but most common is lightning strikes. Fortunately firies are better screened these days as in the past the CFA (esp volunteers) becomes a place that pyromaniacs just loved to hang out... and secretly give everyone work to do! And you get the odd c0ckhead kids who light fires but with better drone technology and more of them these fires are usually spotted early.

As CC mentioned, what is really infuriating is the scam artists arriving on the scene to take advantage of the vulnerable. I probably shouldn't write this but I wouldn't be against publicly identifying and shaming these appalling creatures.

I think that may be somewhat of an underestimation Baggers.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/bushfires-firebugs-fuelling-crisis-asarson-arresttollhits183/news-story/52536dc9ca9bb87b7c76d36ed1acf53f

Some cases could be called accidental/careless but the "deliberate" category is significant.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Deer in the Headlights
One factor we don't hear much about is how many of these fires are the result of firebug actions. I have read that many have been deliberately lit? This would be a problem of our society and its collective mental health?
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Deer in the Headlights
I am not always clear on what is supporting the various opinions being quoted and bandied around in the media, eg statistical correlation or proven cause and effect or what, so jumping to solutions can be futile at times.  However, urgency sometimes plays its part and a gamble on a solution or an educated guess may be the only action available at particular times.
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Notice Board (Visitors Enter Here) / Re: CSC Upgrade
OK some posters may have some valid suggestions for further improvement but overall I have to say that I really am liking the new clean uncluttered new look which I find much easier to read and not so taxing on my ageing eyes. Well done Spanner!
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Christmas / NY
Take care of yourself CC in this very dangerous time. Someone very close to me got back from Orbost last Sat after visiting her sister for Christmas. They then both travelled back to Melbourne together. Talk about getting out by the skin of their teeth! At that time it was black soot raining down from fires quite a long distance from the town. How quickly things can change.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Christmas / NY
Season's greetings Baggers and to all other CSC members. I hope that Christmas is merry and that the New Year is a prosperous and happy one!
May the boys bring us much joy in 2020!!  ;D
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Notice Board (Visitors Enter Here) / Re: CSC Upgrade
If you go to the Community Recent Post link it's give you the summary of all threads.
https://www.carltonsc.com/index.php?action=recent

This is correct. Instead of the scroll at the top of the site you'll see a "New Posts" link. This will show you all the posts since your last visit...

Found that, works well. Thanks Spanner.