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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -
James Paterson and Andrew Bragg are two of the better performed Liberal Senators imo and yep I know their job as the Libs attack dogs is to drag up dirt on anything Labor do/dont do but the reality is this present Government are great at serving up themselves up on a plate,making mistake after mistake and then trying to cover it up. Letting detainees back into the public who have been charged with serious crimes is horrendous imo and lacking common sense much like giving ISIS brides Passports to come back to Australia and then trying to cover it up and deny giving assistance...
Paterson usually gets it right imo and while he can be over the top wanting detail and pedantic about scoring political points Id rather that than letting these incidents be covered up and buried by the Government..

That's why the Libs are in the doldrums!

A Criminal Justice Visa is granted by the Department of Home Affairs so that an immigration detainee can be kept in the country to face charges.  It's routine and there's nothing unusual or untoward about this.  They were granted bail by the court, as is usually the case for non-violent offenders who aren't flight risks.  The Government doesn't determine who gets bail.

The ISIS brides are Australian citizens and the Australian Government has no choice but to issue them with replacement passports.  It's the law.

Paterson doesn't get things right.  He fakes outrage over part of the story and ignores the facts.


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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Name your team for Opening Round
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Chesser’s form was pretty good on Wednesday and he has to be in the selection mix too.

Six, seven or eight debutants will mean a lot of work for Sydney’s opposition analysts trying to figure out how we’re going to play … even if they have Bucky’s training reports.

While we could have four players with just three games between them, we will have brought in three seasoned, established AFL footballers, two of whom may have something to prove.

I reckon we’ve got a damn good chance of knocking the Swans off. 🤞
We have won 2 of our last 20 games at the SCG vs Syd. Our last win there was when Jesus played CHB for Jerusalem (R17 2019).
This worries me more than anything else (and the fact that I am heading over to watch the game).
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Name your team for Opening Round
Last post by DJC -
Chesser’s form was pretty good on Wednesday and he has to be in the selection mix too.

Six, seven or eight debutants will mean a lot of work for Sydney’s opposition analysts trying to figure out how we’re going to play … even if they have Bucky’s training reports.

While we could have four players with just three games between them, we will have brought in three seasoned, established AFL footballers, two of whom may have something to prove.

I reckon we’ve got a damn good chance of knocking the Swans off. 🤞
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -
I would take anything Senator James Paterson says with a grain of salt.

The former immigration detainees were granted Criminal Justice Visas; a standard procedure when immigration detainees are charged with criminal offences or required to give evidence in a trial.  Depending on the outcome of the court cases, the former detainees will be imprisoned and then deported or returned to immigration detention, then deported.
Yes, and in the context of @Thryleon referencing statistical fraud, the media and politicians like Hanson try to paint it as a tidal wave of criminals using legal loopholes, when in reality it might be a fraction of 1% in many tens of thousands.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -
Compelling.  Thought this belonged here more than anywhere else.  Remember this when people start bashing numbers at you.
It's the tool that the media and politicians have used for years, cherry-picking the frame of reference to make the numbers look good or bad.

Media will do it deliberately 100% of the time, if not the reporter the editor, and they have no intention of substantiating the report with unfiltered hard numbers, they only ever provide a subset. Yet the same media happily accuse scientists and scientific publications of distorting the figures, sound familiar?

btw., In R&D or fundamental science they have a term that relates to this, it's called P-Hacking, and if you are a career scientist or engineer who gets caught doing it your career is over! If the media or a politician does it they just do it again, some even become more extreme!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Name your team for Opening Round
Last post by Professer E -
Cox is having a long honeymoon period from the media...Voss loses three in a row and the drums start beating.
Cox took over a GF side, finished out of the finals (badly), and turfed loyal servants for an over the top trading gamble.
I think they'll beat us and the cards have been stacked against us (away game, dubious early season adjudication of the ruck contest that will favour Grundy), but lose and the blow torch should be well and truly turned on him.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Name your team for Opening Round
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Charlie will get every chance to show his wares.  He can be mercurial, and a match winner.  He can be a bit choosy, and he absolutely will lift against us.  Hopefully he's playing on and kicking around the corner because thats when he makes the most mistakes. 

Thing is, he wont win the game by himself.  Its guys like herney, papley and warner that do it.  Amartey likes to play against us too, and Grundy is no mug.  Theyre a good side but theyve lost a few contributors and attracted one star.  The bottom 6 will decide the outcome of this one.

Let's hope we make them miss Ollie florent and will hayward.
My 23 has seven debutants and I can't see us going in with less that six blokes wearing the CFC monogram for the first time.  That has to be some sort of record  :-\
Hard to see us winning with the amount of changes to our team but I’m confident we’ll see a strong showing from the new look blues.
I think we are a good chance, Swans have Gulden and Papley not fully fit, are themselves developing/trialling a new game plan to include Charlie and several other tall forwards plus have a coach who is also under pressure for his job and who showed his tactical nous last season isnt fantastic. Haywood and Florent would be keen to impress and extra motivated after being traded out for Charlie and unless we make some diabolical matchup mistakes or lose a key player through injury I'm backing us in to win this game as losing would be such a downer after a bright pre season and several young players making their debuts should inspire the older blokes to pull the finger out and give max effort.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
8 million dollar Medicare fraud committed by detainees at the Melbourne immigration centre and they were given Visa's and bail plus allowed out into the community. Detainee tip...So if you are being detained at an Immigration centre the easy way out is to commit a crime and thus win your freedom.

I would take anything Senator James Paterson says with a grain of salt.

The former immigration detainees were granted Criminal Justice Visas; a standard procedure when immigration detainees are charged with criminal offences or required to give evidence in a trial.  Depending on the outcome of the court cases, the former detainees will be imprisoned and then deported or returned to immigration detention, then deported.
James Paterson and Andrew Bragg are two of the better performed Liberal Senators imo and yep I know their job as the Libs attack dogs is to drag up dirt on anything Labor do/dont do but the reality is this present Government are great at serving up themselves up on a plate,making mistake after mistake and then trying to cover it up. Letting detainees back into the public who have been charged with serious crimes is horrendous imo and lacking common sense much like giving ISIS brides Passports to come back to Australia and then trying to cover it up and deny giving assistance...
Paterson usually gets it right imo and while he can be over the top wanting detail and pedantic about scoring political points Id rather that than letting these incidents be covered up and buried by the Government..