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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 22 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Last post by Lods -This is for the pre-match.
This is for the pre-match.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 22 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Last post by kruddler -Its an observation, not a critique.
Your inability to see the difference does you no favours and sends you down a misguided rabbit hole.
Im not anti-fraser. Never have been. You cant seem to get that through your head though.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 22 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Last post by shawny -
I’m ambivalent to be honest but I don’t buy your comment about quality of opposition given we have beaten Geelong and Brisbane.
I've just been breaking the ladder down week by week. Previous to our efforts this week (and geelongs to rise up the ladder) we hadn't beaten a team inside the top 6. Hadn't lost to a team in the bottom 5, and had split the difference between the teams in the middle.
That was based on nothing other than the ladder positions for about a month straight.
You don't have to buy it, that was the facts.
As mentioned, this was before last weekends games.
breaking the ladder down…… lol.
Youre critiquing Frasers 9 wins from 11 games and at the same time excusing 1 win against the bottom team in the first 9 games.
Hard to take you seriously.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 20 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane at Marvel
Last post by Gointocarlton -Just before we move onto the next game, crank up the volume and enjoy the future the CFC.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Award 2026
Last post by crashlander -To spring back after 2 shockers was so enjoyable.
Trends:
[1] There were 11 voters this round, which is almost double last week. And I was late again! Finally up to date!
please do vote, win, lose or draw: it is something we appreciate and it makes our statistics a lot more reliable. And our statistics hold up pretty well when it comes to John Nicholls Medal night!
[2] The rating was a 8.94, which represents a B. Voters were much more satisfied this week.
[3] 16 players managed a mention this week. A lot of guys had much better performances than they managed last week.
[4] The average vote this week was 29. Scores are around 30 are more usual when we win, so read into that what you will.
[5] Again 5 players managed 100 votes or more, which is among our best. 4 has almost become the norm, which tells you something about how it isn't just a couple of guys carrying the team.
[6] It was very close again at the top between Cripps (276), and Smith (253). Talor Byrne came in 3rd with 219: his best to date. It was Cripps' 6th BOG this season.
[7] Three player managed votes from everyone again this week; Cripps, Byrne and Smith. Walsh and Hewett missed from 1 voter.
[8] Our midfield guns dominated the voting this week, as did our defence. Our small forwards were also significant.
[9] Smith, Cowan, Wilson and Byrne were the youngsters to feature this week.
Votes:
Cripps, Patrick 267
Smith, Jagga 253
Byrne, Talor 219
Walsh, Sam 163
Hewett, George 158
Haynes, Nicholas 57
Hayward, Will 57
Cowan, Lachlan 45
Wilson, Billy 33
Evans, Francis 33
Ainsworth, Ben 12
Dean, Harry 8
Florent, Oliver 8
Derksen, Wade 8
Young, Lewis 8
Lord, Cooper 4
Progressive Voting:
Walsh, Sam 3639
Patrick Cripps 3250
Smith, Jagga 1980
Hewett, George 1370
Newman, Nic 943
Florent, Oliver 929
Will Hayward 858
Ainsworth, Ben 788
Harry McKay 784
Matthew Carroll 769
Pittonet, Marc 747
Mitch McGovern 710
Haynes, Nick 664
Cowan, Lachie 573
Dean, Harry 545
Kemp, Brodie 485
Weitering, Jacob 466
Hollands, Elijah 426
Ollie Hollands 413
Byrne, Talor 412
Cerra, Adam 348
William, Zac 330
Evans, Francis 292
Blake Acres 223
Wilson, Billy 173
Lord, Cooper 156
Young, Lewis 89
Wade Derksen 82
Ison, Jack 43
Liam Reidy 28
Boyd, Jordan 27
Cottrell, Matthew 15
Adam Saad 15
Flynn Young 8
Flynn Riley 6
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Voting AFL Rd 20 2026 Carlton vs Gold Coast
Last post by crashlander -Team: B+
Coming back after 2 demoralizing losses against a team with a lot more raw talent than we have, I was pleased that we prevailed after being headed each quarter.
Votes:
[2] Patrick Cripps
[2] Talor Byrne
[2] Jagga Smith
[2] Sam Walsh
[1.5] George Hewett
[1] Ollie Florent
[1] Nick Haynes
[1] Billy Wilson
[0.5] Cooper Lord
[0.5] Ben Ainsworth
[0.5] Will Hayward
[0.5] Lachie Cowan
[0.5] Frankie Evans
Explanations:
[2] Patrick Cripps: 30 possessions, 15 clearances, 5 tackles and a goal, Crippa managed an inspirational game.
[2] Talor Byrne: For a young kid to have 3 goals, 4 tackles and 12+ score involvements says everything.
[2] Jagga Smith: Another great game from Jagga: 31 possessions, 6 clearances and 5 tackles.
[2] Sam Walsh: Another great game from Walsh with 31 possessions.
[1.5] George Hewett: George got 25 possessions and totally blanketed the GC Captain after half time.
[1] Ollie Florent: A great rebounding game with 25 possessions.
[1] Nick Haynes: Like a fine wine, Nick is flying at the moment. He was huge in defence. 13 marks!
[1] Billy Wilson: Another excellent game from Billy, keeping his opponent down while getting 10 marks a load of ball.
[0.5] Cooper Lord: A very solid game from Lord.
[0.5] Ben Ainsworth: Ainsworth was another superb contributor.
[0.5] Will Hayward: 3 goals, clutch marks, another strong game from Hayward.
[0.5] Lachie Cowan: Impassable in the air. Really powerful in defence.
[0.5] Frankie Evans: Frankie got some reward this time, which hasn’t always happened this year.
Honourable Mentions:
Wade Derksen: Only misses votes because of his turnovers. His marking was excellent.
Lewis Young: A strong game from Young, showing confidence we rarely see.
Adam Cerra: A strong game from Cerra, with 20+ possessions. Would get votes any other week.
Blake Acres: Another who really deserved a mention. Strong on his wing and not many turnovers.
Matthew Cottrell: Cottrell also deserves votes for keeping Rioli totally out of the game while getting the ball himself.
I really needed 30 votes this week. Such is life, but I do feel I'm not rewarding players enough.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 22 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Last post by Sexybronco -
I’m ambivalent to be honest but I don’t buy your comment about quality of opposition given we have beaten Geelong and Brisbane.
I've just been breaking the ladder down week by week. Previous to our efforts this week (and geelongs to rise up the ladder) we hadn't beaten a team inside the top 6. Hadn't lost to a team in the bottom 5, and had split the difference between the teams in the middle.
That was based on nothing other than the ladder positions for about a month straight.
You don't have to buy it, that was the facts.
As mentioned, this was before last weekends games.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 22 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Last post by kruddler -I’m ambivalent to be honest but I don’t buy your comment about quality of opposition given we have beaten Geelong and Brisbane.
Which has been the argument all along.
I've never said Voss is a supercoach. Just give him some time to do what he needs to do. Fraser is riding on his coattails, and not doing a thing wrong, and doing plenty right. But people attributing all the success to Fraser and none to Voss is a recipe for disaster.
Look at the bigger picture as to what has changed since Vossys departure.
2 things....quality of opposition has been poorer.
Improvement from our captain (and its not just him, but obvious when looking at him) has made a huge difference.
I don't want to restart the debate. The article is nothing new to me, and some others, however all the voss haters/fraser boosters continue to ignore that and argue against it. Its dishonest and/or naive.
I've just been breaking the ladder down week by week. Previous to our efforts this week (and geelongs to rise up the ladder) we hadn't beaten a team inside the top 6. Hadn't lost to a team in the bottom 5, and had split the difference between the teams in the middle.
That was based on nothing other than the ladder positions for about a month straight.
You don't have to buy it, that was the facts.
As mentioned, this was before last weekends games.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 22 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Last post by Sexybronco -based on that Vossy wasn’t given enough time, just when that debate was beginning to subside🙄. Also far from an ringing endorsement for Fraser as our next senior coach.
Which has been the argument all along.
I've never said Voss is a supercoach. Just give him some time to do what he needs to do. Fraser is riding on his coattails, and not doing a thing wrong, and doing plenty right. But people attributing all the success to Fraser and none to Voss is a recipe for disaster.
Look at the bigger picture as to what has changed since Vossys departure.
2 things....quality of opposition has been poorer.
Improvement from our captain (and its not just him, but obvious when looking at him) has made a huge difference.
I don't want to restart the debate. The article is nothing new to me, and some others, however all the voss haters/fraser boosters continue to ignore that and argue against it. Its dishonest and/or naive.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 22 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Last post by kruddler -https://www.sen.com.au/news/2026/08/03/afl-2026-carlton-win-versus-brisbane-the-perfect-game-adam-simpson-lauds-blues-dominance-after-15-year-firstbased on that Vossy wasn’t given enough time, just when that debate was beginning to subside🙄. Also far from an ringing endorsement for Fraser as our next senior coach.
While he doesn’t believe the win was a lesson in coaching from interim Fraser, Simpson did concede that everything the Blues have been working on – even prior to Fraser’s tenure – was on show in full effect on Saturday night.
“I’m not sure it’s a masterclass, but everything they tried worked,” he said.
“Sometimes it’s just playing your way. A lot of the things Carlton have done really well in the last 10 weeks; they were working on in November and December.
“That’s the beauty of the transition that Josh made. He didn’t tweak a lot of things, but they evolved really quickly.
Which has been the argument all along.
I've never said Voss is a supercoach. Just give him some time to do what he needs to do. Fraser is riding on his coattails, and not doing a thing wrong, and doing plenty right. But people attributing all the success to Fraser and none to Voss is a recipe for disaster.
Look at the bigger picture as to what has changed since Vossys departure.
2 things....quality of opposition has been poorer.
Improvement from our captain (and its not just him, but obvious when looking at him) has made a huge difference.
I don't want to restart the debate. The article is nothing new to me, and some others, however all the voss haters/fraser boosters continue to ignore that and argue against it. Its dishonest and/or naive.