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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 16 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast
Last post by kruddler -
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Cmon Paul, its West Coast.

2026 - 4 wins, 11 losses
2025 - 1 win, 22 losses
2024 - 5 wins, 18 losses
2023 - 3 wins, 20 losses
2022 - 2 wins, 20 losses

15 wins, 91 losses
14% win loss record over their past 106 games. Even Pagan managed a 25% win rate with us.

Oh they beat essendon did they? The team that has 1 win from their past 27 games? What an achievement.

Lets celebrate the win, but lets not overstate the opponent to make ourselves feel better.
We were poor for half a match. They have been poor for 5 years.
I think the Weagles aren't going to be the rabble they have been. They seem to be on the right track. That is why I am happy we managed to put the foot down when we did.
If we played the Weagles of, say, 2024 today, we'd have won by over 100 points, even without a Charlie Curnow kicking 10. They have been awful, but they are not any longer. Hopefully, we can see them stumble, rather than come on. That way, we might be able to convince Reid that being on the east coast is a better alternative (especially in a dark blue guernsey).

No, they are not the same, but they are still a poor side.

They havent won a game in Melbourne since 2023.....against any team!

They've had 3 bigger losses than today, this year already.

Sure, better form. Still crap;

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 16 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast
Last post by laj -
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Cmon Paul, its West Coast.

2026 - 4 wins, 11 losses
2025 - 1 win, 22 losses
2024 - 5 wins, 18 losses
2023 - 3 wins, 20 losses
2022 - 2 wins, 20 losses

15 wins, 91 losses
14% win loss record over their past 106 games. Even Pagan managed a 25% win rate with us.

Oh they beat essendon did they? The team that has 1 win from their past 27 games? What an achievement.

Lets celebrate the win, but lets not overstate the opponent to make ourselves feel better.
We were poor for half a match. They have been poor for 5 years.
I think the Weagles aren't going to be the rabble they have been. They seem to be on the right track. That is why I am happy we managed to put the foot down when we did.
If we played the Weagles of, say, 2024 today, we'd have won by over 100 points, even without a Charlie Curnow kicking 10. They have been awful, but they are not any longer. Hopefully, we can see them stumble, rather than come on. That way, we might be able to convince Reid that being on the east coast is a better alternative (especially in a dark blue guernsey).
Yes, remember beating then 2nd last game in 2024 in Perth by 65pts with literally 19 blokes out of the side.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 16 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast
Last post by Sexybronco -
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Not sure people know how to react given our horrendous start to the season, me included. This teams performance is a far cry from the one that ran out at the start of the season so hard to know what to believe. Games against bogie teams in the coming weeks will be telling but let’s all enjoy this resurgence as it so probably where we should have been all along in 2026.

That's fair enough I guess. I'm not sure I would call the recent performances a far cry, although this is clearly a contentious issue. I think what has happened in recent weeks is that we have turned the winnable games earlier in the season into winning games. That in itself is a great achievement, for which Fraser deserves considerable credit. But I'm not seeing the quantum leaps that others are. It's a progression IMO.
Far cry may be a stretch but we don't look like going missing for a quarter or more which had become embarrassingly predictable. The St Kilda game was the worst I’ve seen live for a long time, hopefully those days are behind us.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 16 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast
Last post by laj -
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I am somewhat surprised at the lukewarm positivity on here. This is a big deal. Not many teams win 6 on the trot.

We monstered West Coast in very facet : in the air, ground ball, attack, pressure, effort, defence. We led the entire game. All the stats are significantly in our favour. They've been in close games in recent weeks and managed to jag a win against Essendon. I know despite their song, West Coast are not exactly flying high, but it's been several weeks since they lost by over 5 or 6 goals (in fact R7 against St Kilda).

Camarades, encore un effort !

Cmon Paul, its West Coast.

2026 - 4 wins, 11 losses
2025 - 1 win, 22 losses
2024 - 5 wins, 18 losses
2023 - 3 wins, 20 losses
2022 - 2 wins, 20 losses

15 wins, 91 losses
14% win loss record over their past 106 games. Even Pagan managed a 25% win rate with us.

Oh they beat essendon did they? The team that has 1 win from their past 27 games? What an achievement.

Lets celebrate the win, but lets not overstate the opponent to make ourselves feel better.
We were poor for half a match. They have been poor for 5 years.
Eagles had a decent 5 weeks leading to . Beat GWS, lost by a goal to Port, after beating them early in the year in Adelaide, lost to North by a point, beat them early in the year, and had a very close one against the Pies on Pendles record game. Of course, beat Essendon as we all do, as you said. Bar a couple of real super stinkers, they have been better than other years.

Nothing to trouble us though. 9 goal win that felt like 5 but should have been 15.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 17 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Richmond at MCG
Last post by crashlander -
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I think Rich will trouble us more than WC did today. I hope the trend of taking every opponent seriously every week irrespective of where they are on the ladder continues. If we take them lightly or treat them with contempt, we will do so out our peril.
Indeed, Richmond have played their best football against us for the last couple of years, much to my irritation. I don't want us to take them lightly, but I do want us to give them a day they want to forget.

Pitto has struggled against Nankervis in the past, and we have not much of a plan B for that situation. Also Richmond will have Lynch back, and he won't kick that badly again.
If Weitering were playing, Lynch wouldn't get a kick, but Weitering isn't going to play. Dean and Derksen will need to be on their game!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 16 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast
Last post by crashlander -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: PaulP – on
I am somewhat surprised at the lukewarm positivity on here. This is a big deal. Not many teams win 6 on the trot.

We monstered West Coast in very facet : in the air, ground ball, attack, pressure, effort, defence. We led the entire game. All the stats are significantly in our favour. They've been in close games in recent weeks and managed to jag a win against Essendon. I know despite their song, West Coast are not exactly flying high, but it's been several weeks since they lost by over 5 or 6 goals (in fact R7 against St Kilda).

Camarades, encore un effort !

Cmon Paul, its West Coast.

2026 - 4 wins, 11 losses
2025 - 1 win, 22 losses
2024 - 5 wins, 18 losses
2023 - 3 wins, 20 losses
2022 - 2 wins, 20 losses

15 wins, 91 losses
14% win loss record over their past 106 games. Even Pagan managed a 25% win rate with us.

Oh they beat essendon did they? The team that has 1 win from their past 27 games? What an achievement.

Lets celebrate the win, but lets not overstate the opponent to make ourselves feel better.
We were poor for half a match. They have been poor for 5 years.
I think the Weagles aren't going to be the rabble they have been. They seem to be on the right track. That is why I am happy we managed to put the foot down when we did.
If we played the Weagles of, say, 2024 today, we'd have won by over 100 points, even without a Charlie Curnow kicking 10. They have been awful, but they are not any longer. Hopefully, we can see them stumble, rather than come on. That way, we might be able to convince Reid that being on the east coast is a better alternative (especially in a dark blue guernsey).
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 16 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast
Last post by crashlander -
Quote from: RiverRat – on
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Talor Byrne got some real result for effort today, but for the chest mark he spilt. His snap was one of the goals of the year.
For all that, I'd like to see him work on his kicking and his strength in the off-season. I think he is going to be a keeper.

Seems to be surprisingly strong and hard to move for a smaller player - certainly uses his body well against bigger opponents.
His bodying skills are excellent. He can also take a leap, although we haven't seen much of that yet.
Still, he has a lot of development left in him. He could well end up with some of the Wayne Harmes about him. And that extra muscle would help his kicking depth and his tackling.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 16 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: PaulP – on
I am somewhat surprised at the lukewarm positivity on here. This is a big deal. Not many teams win 6 on the trot.

We monstered West Coast in very facet : in the air, ground ball, attack, pressure, effort, defence. We led the entire game. All the stats are significantly in our favour. They've been in close games in recent weeks and managed to jag a win against Essendon. I know despite their song, West Coast are not exactly flying high, but it's been several weeks since they lost by over 5 or 6 goals (in fact R7 against St Kilda).

Camarades, encore un effort !

Cmon Paul, its West Coast.

2026 - 4 wins, 11 losses
2025 - 1 win, 22 losses
2024 - 5 wins, 18 losses
2023 - 3 wins, 20 losses
2022 - 2 wins, 20 losses

15 wins, 91 losses
14% win loss record over their past 106 games. Even Pagan managed a 25% win rate with us.

Oh they beat essendon did they? The team that has 1 win from their past 27 games? What an achievement.

Lets celebrate the win, but lets not overstate the opponent to make ourselves feel better.
We were poor for half a match. They have been poor for 5 years.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 16 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast
Last post by PaulP -
Quote from: Sexybronco – on
Not sure people know how to react given our horrendous start to the season, me included. This teams performance is a far cry from the one that ran out at the start of the season so hard to know what to believe. Games against bogie teams in the coming weeks will be telling but let’s all enjoy this resurgence as it so probably where we should have been all along in 2026.

That's fair enough I guess. I'm not sure I would call the recent performances a far cry, although this is clearly a contentious issue. I think what has happened in recent weeks is that we have turned the winnable games earlier in the season into winning games. That in itself is a great achievement, for which Fraser deserves considerable credit. But I'm not seeing the quantum leaps that others are. It's a progression IMO.