Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: Baggers – on December 23, 2025, 08:11:29 pm

GTC old son, I've said it before and I'll say it again... you have an ability to carve it to the bone. Spot on.

Yep, we are structurally better with the ins... but the proof of the pudding still remains in the eating. Bring on 2026.

Perhaps I could have added "on paper" after structurally better. As you say, proof is in the pudding but I have this  optimism about about 2026.

Quote from: PaulP – on December 23, 2025, 05:45:37 pm

I would never in a million years blame Howard or Tony Rundle for Port Arthur. Seems like a flimsy logic and a poor argument.

It is embarrassing that so-called leaders apportion blame to the incumbent PM.

Holy mackerel this is a problem that goes back decades and centuries, FFS. Need I say that the shallowness and opportunism of some is breathtaking... and vulgar. (and Baggers steps down from his soapbox).

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on December 23, 2025, 07:00:09 pm

TDK aside, the others all had to go. Curnow's attidude stunk the joint up, SOS wanted a pay and Daddy was waiting to give it to him (probably to help out with legal fees). Doc and Orazio were finished, Durdin is injury prone, Lemmey lacked the drive to be an AFL player, Binns is a VFL player, Hollands needed a kick in the ass and I do he wins another crack. Ive heard Cincotta's hip was a lot worse than was made out. White is unlucky but his position is overstocked.
I think we are better structurally with the ins.

GTC old son, I've said it before and I'll say it again... you have an ability to carve it to the bone. Spot on.

Yep, we are structurally better with the ins... but the proof of the pudding still remains in the eating. Bring on 2026.

Quote from: Blue Moon – on December 23, 2025, 11:48:48 am

In the draft and trading period, Silvagni, TDK, Durdin and Curnow left, Docherty retired and Fantasia, Binns, Lemmey and Cinotta were delisted as well as either E.Hollands or White. This means ten players went out of the playing list and they were replaced by Ainsworth, Florent, Hayward, Reidy and Chesser, with Dean, Ison and Byrne Drafted. On top of this Smith and Newman were unavailable due to injury and are available this season.
The question is, "Are the ten players who are available this year better than than ten players who have left?" To my mind at the top end, losing TDK and Curnow will be a loss, but overall I think this year's list is in better shape than what it was last year. What we won't know until the season starts proper is who has improved, who has dropped off and what injuries we ill have.
I think we did alright  in this years draft and trade period considering the hand we were dealt, And at this point of time we have ,our draft capital available for next year is greater what we would normally be entitled to. This the first time I can remember this happening. In the past we have always traded away future draft picks so next year we will be in a position to make a real charge at the draft.
The challenge for us is to get out of that dead zone of finishing seventh to twelfth.

TDK aside, the others all had to go. Curnow's attidude stunk the joint up, SOS wanted a pay and Daddy was waiting to give it to him (probably to help out with legal fees). Doc and Orazio were finished, Durdin is injury prone, Lemmey lacked the drive to be an AFL player, Binns is a VFL player, Hollands needed a kick in the ass and I do he wins another crack. Ive heard Cincotta's hip was a lot worse than was made out. White is unlucky but his position is overstocked.
I think we are better structurally with the ins.

It is embarrassing that so-called leaders apportion blame to the incumbent PM.

Holy mackerel this is a problem that goes back decades and centuries, FFS. Need I say that the shallowness and opportunism of some is breathtaking... and vulgar. (and Baggers steps down from his soapbox).

Yep, when Trump defends Clinton you know he's got plenty to hide.

Quote from: DJC – on December 23, 2025, 05:15:44 pm

Morrison was PM when an Australian nazi terrorist shot and killed 51 Muslim worshippers in New Zealand.  Abbott was PM when a Muslim terrorist took hostages in the Lindt Cafe, two of whom subsequently died from gunshot wounds.  Howard was PM when an Australian shot and killed 35 tourists at Port Arthur.

The common thread is that the Opposition adopted a bi-partisan approach and supported the Government's responses in each case.

You would expect the One Nation nutters to try to capitalise on any event but the politicisation of the Bondi tragedy by the Coalition is disgraceful.

The hysterical calls for a Royal Commission are probably understandable but should be ignored by good government.  If there were flaws in the work of ASIO, AFP and/or NSW Police, they need to be identified and rectified immediately, not after a Royal Commission has spent 18 months or more examining the terrorist attack from a legal perspective.

I would never in a million years blame Howard or Tony Rundle for Port Arthur. Seems like a flimsy logic and a poor argument.

Epstein Files lol.

In the draft and trading period, Silvagni, TDK, Durdin and Curnow left, Docherty retired and Fantasia, Binns, Lemmey and Cinotta were delisted as well as either E.Hollands or White. This means ten players went out of the playing list and they were replaced by Ainsworth, Florent, Hayward, Reidy and Chesser, with Dean, Ison and Byrne Drafted. On top of this Smith and Newman were unavailable due to injury and are available this season.
The question is, "Are the ten players who are available this year better than than ten players who have left?" To my mind at the top end, losing TDK and Curnow will be a loss, but overall I think this year's list is in better shape than what it was last year. What we won't know until the season starts proper is who has improved, who has dropped off and what injuries we ill have.
I think we did alright  in this years draft and trade period considering the hand we were dealt, And at this point of time we have ,our draft capital available for next year is greater what we would normally be entitled to. This the first time I can remember this happening. In the past we have always traded away future draft picks so next year we will be in a position to make a real charge at the draft.
The challenge for us is to get out of that dead zone of finishing seventh to twelfth.

It really has nothing to do with blame Paul.  It is the actions of the Opposition that is under scrutiny here.  Howard, Abbott and Morrison enjoyed bipartisan support for their responses, as they should.