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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: shawny – on
Quote from: madbluboy – on
I still think Labor will win. One Nation will steal more Liberal votes than Labor.






Libs will win with a majority and so they should. 12 years of the current clown act is well and truly enough and the voters know it this time.

The corruption and lies from this mob has gone on for long enough and everyone with even just a few functioning brain cells knows it and will vote accordingly

Even though the rusted on old Labor voters still trying to strike fear by saying Libs wont be any better, look at want Kennett did a quarter of a century ago, Libs may even be worse, careful want you wish for........ goes on and on and on.

Its their last ditch effort to impart so doubt when its all they have to cling to - well too much damage has been done to our once great state for that only remaining strategy to work on this occasion.


 
Im with you on voting for Liberal, but sadly, I think what I forecasted will play out.  Labor will form government and win through preference voting.  The libs arent popular enough and have been a bottle job for too long.
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Cricket thread
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
[The caller calling for Starc's head was before a ball was bowled in the 3rd test.

Starc is a bowler with a special ability to polarise people's opinions about him.  His record speaks for itself, but people have been calling for his head since before his Test debut.

There's no doubt that Starc, Cummins, Hazlewood and Lyons are a very potent bowling quartet ... when they're all firing.  If one or two are off the boil, then Starc seems to be over-bowled and he loses his edge.  All four suffer from the absence of an all-rounder who can bowl well for long spells.  That all-rounder doesn't have to be a prolific wicket taker, he just has maintain the pressure while the four strike bowlers share the other end. 

After Scotty Boland's batting in the 2nd Test, he could well be that "all-rounder"  :)
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Cricket thread
Last post by Milhanna13 -
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
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SEN made a decision on the fly to take talkback.  they hadnt been planning on doing it, but their text machine and socials were blowing up so much, that they announced  Finey's Final Siren  for the lunchbreak.     if that doesnt tell you what a sh1tshow that 1st session was, then i dont know what it says!!!
The caller calling for Starc's head was before a ball was bowled in the 3rd test.

that's great!!!   same as all those out there saying cummins has to be dropped - yeah, hasnt got a wicket in a few innnings, but the previous 2 years have been pretty amazing
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Cricket thread
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: Milhanna13 – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Heard a caller on SEN last night saying Starc should retire. He's no good ya da ya da ya da. Nekminut 6 for.

SEN made a decision on the fly to take talkback.  they hadnt been planning on doing it, but their text machine and socials were blowing up so much, that they announced  Finey's Final Siren  for the lunchbreak.     if that doesnt tell you what a sh1tshow that 1st session was, then i dont know what it says!!!
The caller calling for Starc's head was before a ball was bowled in the 3rd test.
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Cricket thread
Last post by Milhanna13 -
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Heard a caller on SEN last night saying Starc should retire. He's no good ya da ya da ya da. Nekminut 6 for.

SEN made a decision on the fly to take talkback.  they hadnt been planning on doing it, but their text machine and socials were blowing up so much, that they announced  Finey's Final Siren  for the lunchbreak.     if that doesnt tell you what a sh1tshow that 1st session was, then i dont know what it says!!!
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Cricket thread
Last post by Professer E -
Our bowling in the first session was as bad as I've ever seen; lengths wrong, both sides of wicket and no apparent plan...minds clearly weren't on the job as shown by Head's blunder.  Smith pulling out clearly disrupted things and added to the confused state Australian cricket appears to be in at the moment - in squad selection, team selection, preparation and planning.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by PaulP -
Quote from: Baggers – on
Perhaps an important question is how do people of low intellect, poor morality, zero emotional intelligence and seemingly deeply mired in anger/rage, such as PH (and Trump), get into these positions of influence in  the first place?

Not only do they negatively influence other discontented lost souls wherever they go, they grow anger, discontent, fear and ethical degradation. All they achieve is creating, merging and growing a movement of social decay... cheered on by emboldened malcontents.

I'd guess there's a few reasons. These types are riding a trendy wave, which is a global shift to the right, apart from rare exceptions here and there. Part of it is voters being dissatisfied with the major parties, justifiably or not. Her appeal is mostly to right wing types who are not happy with the Libs, and working class people in the outer suburbs who seem to believe that Labor has lost touch with their traditional roots. I'd guess country / rural types would also find the faux tough talk and simplistic solutions appealing, not that there's any actual solutions on offer. 5 minutes of critical thinking will reveal that at the heart of their value system is a moral and intellectual rot. People have been duped since time immemorial, and that will keep happening unless people wake up. Like the Simpsons episode where Homer discovers he has a half brother, and the half brother put Homer in charge of designing a car for the "average person." Unsurprisingly, it turns out to be a disaster, because solving complex problems requires a lot more than clowns. Be careful what you wish for.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by shawny -
Quote from: madbluboy – on
I still think Labor will win. One Nation will steal more Liberal votes than Labor.






Libs will win with a majority and so they should. 12 years of the current clown act is well and truly enough and the voters know it this time.

The corruption and lies from this mob has gone on for long enough and everyone with even just a few functioning brain cells knows it and will vote accordingly

Even though the rusted on old Labor voters still trying to strike fear by saying Libs wont be any better, look at want Kennett did a quarter of a century ago, Libs may even be worse, careful want you wish for........ goes on and on and on.

Its their last ditch effort to impart so doubt when its all they have to cling to - well too much damage has been done to our once great state for that only remaining strategy to work on this occasion.


 
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: dodge – on
Quote from: Thryleon – on


Pauline appears to be doing enough to get herself a government pension which IMHO is all the politicians are interested in. 


As Pauline wasn't a member in 2004, she gets what the general public get (except super contributions are currently 15.4%).  No one has entered politics since 2004 for a government pension, as they don't exist.  Those that were in parliament prior to 2004 are still eligible for the old scheme.

You need to train google AI better:


Yes, they still get a significantly better deal than the average Australian.
While the days of the automatic, lifetime, six-figure pension are gone for politicians elected after October 2004, they still enjoy structural financial advantages that place them far ahead of a regular worker:

1. A Much Higher Superannuation Contribution Rate

Under the Parliamentary Superannuation Act 2004, modern federal politicians receive a 15.4% employer superannuation contribution.
• The Politician Rate: 15.4%
• The "Average Joe" Rate: 12% (the standard Superannuation Guarantee legislated for everyday Australian workers).
Note: This 15.4% rate matches the premium tier provided to career Commonwealth public servants, rather than the standard private sector.

2. The Power of a High Base Salary

Because superannuation is a percentage of earnings, the sheer size of a politician's salary creates a massive compounding advantage.
• As a base salary, a standard federal backbencher earns well over $200,000.
• A 15.4% contribution on that baseline means the government deposits over $30,000+ into their super fund every single year.
• For context, a worker on an average Australian salary of $100,000 receiving a 12% super rate gets just $12,000 a year. A politician generates a retirement nest egg at more than triple the pace.

3. Extra Contributions for Extra Roles

If a post-2004 politician becomes a Minister, a committee chair, or takes on an office-holder role, their salary increases. The 15.4% super contribution is paid on their total parliamentary salary, not just the base backbench rate.

4. Safety Nets Ordinary Workers Don't Get

If an ordinary worker loses their job, they rely on standard redundancy or JobSeeker. As mentioned, if a politician is voted out or loses party backing, they receive the taxpayer-funded Resettlement Allowance of up to $105,625 to cushion their transition [aph.gov.au].
Would you like to look closer at how much a specific political role earns overall, or see how state-level politicians' perks compare to the federal ones?



To go with all of that, here:

https://maps.finance.gov.au/pay-and-employment/parliamentarians/salary-parliamentarians

I used to be a health services worker, in the private sector.  Government employees are generally treated quite well, it scales up the more you earn.