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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 20 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Gold Coast at Marvel
Last post by kruddler -


No point risking either Harry or Cerra IMO.

I just got through showing Moir's stats in another thread. He kicks over a goal a game and kicks accurately in front of goal. 2 things our forwards don't do.

I wouldn't play Kemp in the middle, but i wouldn't mind seeing him on a wing as a connector between defense and attack. Resting deep forward.

HOK vs Young....are you playing to win, are you playing for the future?

I had this down as a game we should win.....i'm not so sure now......but i reckon we could 100% lose it at the selection table.



Thought about Kemp on the wing. He'd be a nice link coming out of defence. The issue i have with Moir is his workrate. No doubt a real touch of class as he has shown at times but I wonder if he will become another Troy Menzel. It's why he hasn't played more often. He looks like the type that will frustrate the life out of us all. Be so good if he was able to improve all that as he has some class.

I get the work rate thing....you know what, i don't care.
Fogarty was always picked for his work rate. Would chase tackle and harass....did it help us? Did it result in more goals being kicked?
The way the ball is bombed into our forward line currently, it goes straight to the opposition, so you even need to worry about chasing/harrassing. Its kicked straight back out.

What you need is more bang for your buck.
Whats the point of targetting kemp and Harry 40 times a game and maybe getting 2, maybe 3 goals out of it.
Target Moir 10 times and he'll give you a goal or 2.

Yes he is lazy. Yes he is laconic. But thats a problem with forwards these days, they do so much bloody running that it effects their shots at goal. Maybe we need more of a stay at home, make the most of your opportunities. Worked for Fev. He only chased when he got angry and wanted to hurt someone and make a point.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by crashlander -


That's the problem
You guys were 'invested'
You could argue today’s World Cup final was a poor spectacle but it was watched to the end by a few billion.
Yes, one could argue that very easily. Thankfully, I didn't have to sit through this one.
Sei danket Gott!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Sexybronco -
A game doesn't have to be full of great skills to be a good watch.
Sometimes the sillier, controversial, full of mistakes the more memorable.
The rainy Hawthorn game would have been a good one for those not following either side.
I really enjoyed the Essendon game yesterday....don't tell anyone, but  I was actually barracking against the "orange team" :D
Your secrets safe with us👍
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Lods -
A game doesn't have to be full of great skills to be a good watch.
Sometimes the sillier, controversial, full of mistakes the more memorable.
The rainy Hawthorn game would have been a good one for those not following either side.
I really enjoyed the Essendon game yesterday....don't tell anyone, but  I was actually barracking against the "orange team" :D
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Sexybronco -


I watched it with 3 collingwood supporting mates.
All 4 of us said it was a terrible game to watch, with terrible skills.

If non-fans enjoyed it, its probably because 2 once great clubs were looking very average!

That's the problem
You guys were 'invested'
You could argue today’s World Cup final was a poor spectacle but it was watched to the end by a few billion.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Lods -
Not winning actually makes it easier to take a back seat to whoever is appointed.

Just on the game...
If you weren't invested on the result like fans of both sides it would have been a pretty good game to watch.

I watched it with 3 collingwood supporting mates.
All 4 of us said it was a terrible game to watch, with terrible skills.

If non-fans enjoyed it, its probably because 2 once great clubs were looking very average!

That's the problem
You guys were 'invested'
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Baggers -
Not winning actually makes it easier to take a back seat to whoever is appointed.

Just on the game...
If you weren't invested on the result like fans of both sides it would have been a pretty good game to watch.

I watched it with 3 collingwood supporting mates.
All 4 of us said it was a terrible game to watch, with terrible skills.

If non-fans enjoyed it, its probably because 2 once great clubs were looking very average!

Perceptions and perspectives, eh, K?

For moi, the closeness of the scores and what was at stake, kept the game interesting, even exciting at times. To me, that's a good game to watch, as Principal Lods wrote.

From a purists perspective, perhaps not so much...
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
how many years are we losing in the same manner ,me a blue collar worker said on friday are hard hard sacrifice your game  tag on ND nah 36 possies later and numerous score involvement his bog . long bomb into f50 how many years when are our coaches going to learn.
Hardwick learned the same lesson with Bont...didnt tag him, game over.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
I have been happy with Fraser in that respect. Despite pushing towards a wildcard he has kept the youngsters in the side. His main goal to leave Carlton a better place at season's end and may well do that.
So you agree he's leaving? ;D

I won't argue with you, I think it's the most likely occurrence too!

Personally, I think the end of 2026 is going to see a lot of coaching changes, perhaps the most ever in a season.
Hansen wont be there....
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 20 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Gold Coast at Marvel
Last post by laj -


Good questions, K. Here's some more.

Do we really want to risk H and Cez?

Do we reward ordinary Magoos form? Specifically, do we reward Moir's ordinary form with a senior gig? Likewise the Campos. HOK has been ordinary but his last appearance was better. In for H? Lewis Y in to take on King? Harry Charleson has been reasonable in the Magoos... give him a lash at senior level? Likewise Flynn Y.

Do we give Kemp a run in the midfield, changing with Crippa?

Boyd's form has been okay... replace Cez?

Try Ollie H again?

Thursday evening's team selection will be fascinating.

No point risking either Harry or Cerra IMO.

I just got through showing Moir's stats in another thread. He kicks over a goal a game and kicks accurately in front of goal. 2 things our forwards don't do.

I wouldn't play Kemp in the middle, but i wouldn't mind seeing him on a wing as a connector between defense and attack. Resting deep forward.

HOK vs Young....are you playing to win, are you playing for the future?

I had this down as a game we should win.....i'm not so sure now......but i reckon we could 100% lose it at the selection table.



Thought about Kemp on the wing. He'd be a nice link coming out of defence. The issue i have with Moir is his workrate. No doubt a real touch of class as he has shown at times but I wonder if he will become another Troy Menzel. It's why he hasn't played more often. He looks like the type that will frustrate the life out of us all. Be so good if he was able to improve all that as he has some class.