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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by LP -
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Whatever happened to you f..k around you find out?

not to allow violence or anything, but you know, if a kid cops it from a security guard, once upon a time, my parents would turn to me, and ask what did you do?  If they deemed it unreasonable, I copped punishment from them on top of what they would have copped from the authorities/powers that be.
As an aside, I have a friend who in an earlier life was a store manager for one of the big three. I'm not sure if it applies now, but he told me back then that security were not allowed to touch the kids who they thought were shoplifting, just observe and report. Not for the reasons you probably think, but because if the guard got injured in any way they could sue the employer, so the store wanted to avoid liability, a situation caused by lawyers.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: LP – on
Is it true the left are genuinely calling for that security guard to sacked, the guard who defended himself and the public from the smartar5e bottle throwing shoplifter?

Do the do-gooders really think the relative size matters when a youth could just as easily held a knife or machete? Do they expect the guards to find out the answer to that question before neutralising the situation?

One of the areas I visit have taken to employing athletic giants as checkout security. Male and female, Amazons, Africans, all well over 190cm, physically impressive, imposing, one of the girls looks like a 195cm African Brook Shields, and they are not afraid of apprehending kids and they are actually capable of apprehending the kids as opposed to the older style discount security. I got to talking to them and they tell me at first they only hired men, but the crooks stated sending teenage girls in the lift mechanise, so now they employ both male and female guards. They said the kids aren't too bright, often rolling up to the stores in oversized puffer jackets on 34°C days!

I hope the authorities look after the security for just doing their job, and yes I think they should be able to use reasonable force to defend themselves, protect the public and uphold the law.
Whatever happened to you f..k around you find out?

not to allow violence or anything, but you know, if a kid cops it from a security guard, once upon a time, my parents would turn to me, and ask what did you do?  If they deemed it unreasonable, I copped punishment from them on top of what they would have copped from the authorities/powers that be.

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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by LP -
Is it true the left are genuinely calling for that security guard to sacked, the guard who defended himself and the public from the smartar5e bottle throwing shoplifter?

Do the do-gooders really think the relative size matters when a youth could just as easily held a knife or machete? Do they expect the guards to find out the answer to that question before neutralising the situation?

One of the areas I visit have taken to employing athletic giants as checkout security. Male and female, Amazons, Africans, all well over 190cm, physically impressive, imposing, one of the girls looks like a 195cm African Brook Shields, and they are not afraid of apprehending kids and they are actually capable of apprehending the kids as opposed to the older style discount security. I got to talking to them and they tell me at first they only hired men, but the crooks stated sending teenage girls in the lift mechanise, so now they employ both male and female guards. They said the kids aren't too bright, often rolling up to the stores in oversized puffer jackets on 34°C days!

I hope the authorities look after the security for just doing their job, and yes I think they should be able to use reasonable force to defend themselves, protect the public and uphold the law.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by DJC -
ANZAC Day

I had the honour of being the marshall for the march that kicks off our local ANZAC Day commemoration.  I think it was a matter of not stepping back when volunteers were asked to step forward.

Anyway, the highlight of the march was having Jack, a 101 year old Second World War veteran marching with us.  Jack had family members there to support him but he waved them away and completed the march under his own steam.  Truly inspirational!

Lest we forget!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Last post by LP -
Quote from: Milhanna13 – on
Bolton always creeps forward of the stoppage and is always seemingly on his own if they win the ball.  Surely we should have known this, and always had someone goal side of him.
Well I think the intent was to try and make sure the pill didn't get to him in the first place rather than try to compete with him in a 50/50. More than once he only got the pill because of dead set luck. If not for a severe crooked bounce or a massive ricochet we would have prevented it successfully several times, we did prevent it several times but not every time. Even so Bolton's use of the ball once he gets it was impressive, to me that justifies the coaching votes. I can't tell you if that was normal for Bolton or a night out.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Award 2026
Last post by crashlander -
AFL 2026 Rd 6:   Carlton vs Collingwood
I've left the voting thread open for longer, because of the short week. But, losing turns voters off, and another fail hurts. Especially as we managed to grab defeat from the jaws of victory yet again.

Trends:
[1]   There were 10 voters this round, which is the same as last round. Nichevo. When we lose, it is difficult to get voters to care enough to vote, especially when we don't show that we've learnt anything from those losses.
 Please do voteplease do vote, win, lose or draw: it is something we appreciate and it makes our statistics a lot more reliable. And our statistics hold up pretty well when it comes to John Nicholls Medal night!

[2]   The rating was a 7.7, which represents a C-, is the best we've managed for the year and we still lost.
Our rating of the Richmond game, our only win, was 7.69.

[3]   18 players managed a mention again this week. Clearly, almost everyone of doing something, enough to get noticed, just not enough to get us over the line. :(

[4]   The average vote this week was 25, which is also our equal best of the year. Scores are around 30 when we win, so read into that what you will.

[5]   5 players managed 100 votes or more. That is excellent, I don't think we've managed better.

[6] Sam Walsh was BOG for the 4th time this season with 196 votes. He was followed by Carroll, Florent, Newman and Williams.

[7]   No player managed votes from everyone this week, This is another thing without Precedence and shows why we aren't winning.

[8]   It was hard to determine a trend among the vote getters this week, as so many of our players did something.

[9]   Matt Carroll was probably our most effective youngsters on the night.

Votes:
Walsh, Sam   196
Florent, Oliver   146
Carroll, Matthew   135
Newman, Nicholas   127
William, Zac   127
Hayward, Will   85
McGovern, Mitchell  73
Pittonet, Marc   54
Ainsworth, Ben   54
Cripps, Patrick  35
McKay, Harrison  35
Weitering, Jacob  23
Cowan, Lachlan  23
Young, Lewis  12
Haynes, Nicholas  8
Evans, Francis  8
Smith, Jagga  8
Kemp, Brodie  8

Progressive Voting:
Walsh, Sam  1173
Pittonet, Marc  696
Patrick Cripps  481
Mitch McGovern  458
Hollands, Elijah  426
Smith, Jagga  409
Weitering, Jacob  362
Matthew Carroll   327
William, Zac  249
Florent, Oliver  240
Hollands. Ollie   232
Newman, Nic   218
Ainsworth, Ben  202
Lord, Cooper  144
Haynes, Nick  122
Will Hayward  93
Kemp, Brodie  87
Young, Lewis   81
Hewett, George  75
Harry McKay  64
Dean, Harry  51
Cowan, Lachie  47
Byrne, Talor  34
Boyd, Jordan   27
Evans, Francis  23
Cerra, Adam  16

Looking at the voting and a number of things really stand out:
[1] Sam Walsh has easily been our best player so far this year, yet he hasn't really been as good as he can be. And he is our most effective mid by far.
[2] The rest of our midfield has really struggled to make an impact. Pittonet is 2nd, yet he has struggled to dominate opponents. Cripps is usually over a 100 votes by the this time, yet he is not half that. Cerra barely rates a mention. George is little better.
[3] Jagga Smith is 6th, and he has struggled to make the same impact that he did to start the year.
[4] Other than Marc Pittonet, few players have improved their scores. Elijah Hollands was good, but his career is now under a cloud. Matt Carroll is making a much bigger contribution, as had Mitch McGovern. And that's about it.
[5] Some of our senior players are not even on the list. Saad, Acres and Cottrell don't have a vote. George and Adam Cerra barely have any. H, our key forward, hasn't even managed 100 votes yet.
[6] Our replacements for de Koning, Silvagni and Curnow have struggled to make much of an impact. Ainsworth has been the pick of them, with 202 votes.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Last post by Milhanna13 -
Quote from: LP – on
Watching the replay there was more than a fair bit of luck regarding Bolton's last quarter of winning the footy, actually more than once it ricocheted off other players to fall in his lap. But in contrast to us, when he got the lucky possession he used it, he did not waste it.

Bolton always creeps forward of the stoppage and is always seemingly on his own if they win the ball.  Surely we should have known this, and always had someone goal side of him.