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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls
Last post by Lods -
Thankfully in Trump, we have an intelligent, reasonable, diplomatic leader, not prone to excesses and emotive language.
I'm sure his latest message will strike a chord with the Iranian leadership and they will understand he wants nothing but the best for their country and a peaceful resolution to the conflict.
Nobel peace prize certainty now. ;D

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"Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! "Open the F***in' Strait, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in Hell — JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah."

I'm heading off to the fact checkers...it can't be real...can it? ::)  ::)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by LP -
Quote from: madbluboy – on
In the last two weeks we have appeared to have almost put the game away half way through the final term. What is Voss supposed to do from there? Surely that's on the leaders on the field?
We have a few who are yet to get their head around the new rules, under pressure they can revert to the old ways.

I don't get the pile on OH, I think fans remember the turnover at the end of a chain of otherwise unrewarded efforts, or even when he turns it over after being illegally tackled, I think it happened to him twice, otherwise he went at pretty good efficiency by AFL standards.

But the real contrast for me in that game was Walsh being pinged for holding in the last quarter. 50 tackles a game must happen like that, when a player takes the footy and drops it stone cold as they are tackled, and it's play on every time. If anything the error should be the other way, they should be pinged for incorrect disposal. Don't tell me they "didn't take control of the footy", it's just the modern version of Bartlett's throw. These blokes can swoop in onehanded at full tilt and scoop the footy up to dispose of it before they are upright, and fans and officials argue they fumbled a pill that hit them in the belly.

Dropping the footy when tackled has become a plague, a plague of the AFL's own making with stupid rules and stupid rule interpretations!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: cookie2 – on
Quote from: madbluboy – on
In the last two weeks we have appeared to have almost put the game away half way through the final term. What is Voss supposed to do from there? Surely that's on the leaders on the field?
We should have on field generals/leaders who are capable of marshalling the troops in these situations to lock games up and go on to win. That ability seems to be completely absent, we become a rabble and fall apart. If this doesn’t get fixed then we would be wasting our time changing the coach. IMHO the leadership group’s, including the captain’s, actual leadership performances need to be closely monitored and fixed. On field generalship and coaching seems to be sadly lacking and it has been a problem for a long time.
Amen
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by cookie2 -
Quote from: madbluboy – on
In the last two weeks we have appeared to have almost put the game away half way through the final term. What is Voss supposed to do from there? Surely that's on the leaders on the field?
We should have on field generals/leaders who are capable of marshalling the troops in these situations to lock games up and go on to win. That ability seems to be completely absent, we become a rabble and fall apart. If this doesn’t get fixed then we would be wasting our time changing the coach. IMHO the leadership group’s, including the captain’s, actual leadership performances need to be closely monitored and fixed. On field generalship and coaching seems to be sadly lacking and it has been a problem for a long time.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: madbluboy – on
In the last two weeks we have appeared to have almost put the game away half way through the final term. What is Voss supposed to do from there? Surely that's on the leaders on the field?
one handball from cripps resulted in the sheezel goal that put them up.

Our inability to have done more in critical situations hurt us more than any one thing the north players did.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by northernblue -
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: Baggers – on


 :))  :)) Yep, I had a good laugh too... but the point remains that the long game is 2027/8 and beyond. As supporters, we're impatient for success ...right now. Yours truly included. With the appointment of Vossy we were meant to make it to the top of the tree... but never really have looked like it. Perhaps a glimmer in 2023... and that's it. And remember that in 2023, the players met without coaches and took charge themselves... with impressive results.

Vossy commented at the 2025 JNM that we "culturally defeat ourselves." As one of the most important leaders at the club, Vossy should ask himself, "How did I participate in, or allow, that?" It happened on your watch, Vossy... after four years at the helm. Mmm... full length mirror time.


To be fair Baggers, there is plenty of documented evidence that Voss has always owned the bad (and the good for that matter). One person IMO who doesnt need a full length mirror is M Voss, he knows better than anyone he is in the firing line. I'd hazard a guess and say no one is working harder than him to turn the ship around.  I cant say the same for many other senior figures at the club.

Who are these …”senior figures…” ?
And what are they doing and not doing in your opinion ?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: Baggers – on
Quote from: kruddler – on


Yeah, their long game is 25+ years and counting.

As best as i can tell their best option is to hope all 18 other teams fold.

 :))  :)) Yep, I had a good laugh too... but the point remains that the long game is 2027/8 and beyond. As supporters, we're impatient for success ...right now. Yours truly included. With the appointment of Vossy we were meant to make it to the top of the tree... but never really have looked like it. Perhaps a glimmer in 2023... and that's it. And remember that in 2023, the players met without coaches and took charge themselves... with impressive results.

Vossy commented at the 2025 JNM that we "culturally defeat ourselves." As one of the most important leaders at the club, Vossy should ask himself, "How did I participate in, or allow, that?" It happened on your watch, Vossy... after four years at the helm. Mmm... full length mirror time.


To be fair Baggers, there is plenty of documented evidence that Voss has always owned the bad (and the good for that matter). One person IMO who doesnt need a full length mirror is M Voss, he knows better than anyone he is in the firing line. I'd hazard a guess and say no one is working harder than him to turn the ship around.  I cant say the same for many other senior figures at the club.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by Baggers -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: Baggers – on
Seems to me the club had the long game in mind...

Yeah, their long game is 25+ years and counting.

As best as i can tell their best option is to hope all 18 other teams fold.

 :))  :)) Yep, I had a good laugh too... but the point remains that the long game is 2027/8 and beyond. As supporters, we're impatient for success ...right now. Yours truly included. With the appointment of Vossy we were meant to make it to the top of the tree... but never really have looked like it. Perhaps a glimmer in 2023... and that's it. And remember that in 2023, the players met without coaches and took charge themselves... with impressive results.

Vossy commented at the 2025 JNM that we "culturally defeat ourselves." As one of the most important leaders at the club, Vossy should ask himself, "How did I participate in, or allow, that?" It happened on your watch, Vossy... after four years at the helm. Mmm... full length mirror time.