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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
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How are you and others being tolerant of Shawny's views? This thread was created to mock him.
I understand this thread was created to enable @shawny to post his political views here without cross posting on pretty much every thread. No different to the RedTrump thread, of the EV thread, they are nothing more than a filing cabinet? But even so, that doesn't give license to anyone to post fake news or false claims without opportunity for others to redress.

So how are we being intolerant?
Its a football forum where fake news, rumours and innuendo reside comfortably and multiply in number because its all part of the landscape of public forums. It seems we can all agree and disagree on football matters and none of it is taken too seriously and posters move on but Politics seems to be a sensitive topic that is extra divisive.
FWIW I enjoy Shawny postings and see nothing fake about what he draws attention too and Political Parties do get elected in many cases imo based on the personalities/leadership/selling of rather than the policies.
eg How many people could tell you what One Nations major Policies were? but I bet they could tell you who is their leader and what was his/her previous employment...
Jacinta Allan was democratically elected to Parliament as the member for Bendigo East but became Premier as she was chosen unopposed as Leader of the Labor Party after Andrews stepped down. She wasnt elected as Premier Elect initially which I think is the point Shawny was trying to make.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by dodge -
Shawny raised a perfectly legitimate about the kwality (sic) of the current Vic Labor government.  This has actually prompted some interesting commentary and discussion, however, it is a turn off when personal accusations fly.

It is interesting I don't really see a hammering of the Vic government - there should be a greater scrutiny, but everything seems to get shut down pretty quickly, or just run out of steam.  It is there, but not as loud as it could be considering there is an election this year.

The major thing that I would disagree with Shawny about is that the current government wasn't legitimately elected as Jacinta wasn't the leader at election time.  We all have a dilemma at times about whether to vote for a good local member, or a party that you may be more aligned with.  Yes, the 'known' leader at the time may attract/deflect votes, but everyone knows that outside of the leaders' electorate we're not voting directly for them.

It is going to be hard for a lot of people this election - it is hard to argue that the current gov is good, but the LNP or PHON?  Yes, we typically throw out a government rather than vote the opposition in - could be anyone's game.

Saw an interesting article that it could be hard for VEC to determine who the 2 party's are - Labor & LNP or PHON, which could then delay the results.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -
Quote from: madbluboy – on
How are you and others being tolerant of Shawny's views? This thread was created to mock him.
I understand this thread was created to enable @shawny to post his political views here without cross posting on pretty much every thread. No different to the RedTrump thread, of the EV thread, they are nothing more than a filing cabinet? But even so, that doesn't give license to anyone to post fake news or false claims without opportunity for others to redress.

So how are we being intolerant?
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by northernblue -
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Quote from: LP – on
@madbluboy So you think there are other football forums that are more open and tolerant, can you offer some examples?


How are you and others being tolerant of Shawny's views? This thread was created to mock him.

It would seem to have been created for him to voice his thoughts and project some possible solutions but respectfully to Shawny, it reads more as I’m not happy raging/venting.
His articulation of his understanding of our voting system for eg.

And as for tolerance, you, me and everyone else, maybe not Lods… but the rest of us have all been intolerant boofheads at least once… some are BoG in that space.
Overall this place is very tolerant and respectful to thoughts and opinions *backed up with data* as opposed to trumpian fact devoid outrage.
Thats why I like this place.

Speaking of facts and data based thought and analysis, has anyone here tripped over Carrick Ryan and Mr Cucumber ?
They’re accessible through the fb platform, intelligent, thoughtful analysis of world and Australian politics and debunking social media ragebait.
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The Sports Desk / Re: Track and Field
Last post by Lods -
It's a judgement thing.
There are probably advantages to competing in either competition.

Gout's best event is arguably the 200.
He takes a bit of time to get going.

In 2025 he was the 9th fastest 200 metre runner in the Commonwealth over that distance.
In the U/20 200 metres he was the equal fastest (with an American) in the 'world'.

The Comm games and the U/20 championships run basically back to back at the end of July early August.
Very difficult to do both, so a choice has to be made.

It probably comes down to making a decision between possibly making a Commonwealth games final or winning an u/20 Gold medal.
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The Sports Desk / Re: Track and Field
Last post by Thryleon -
Follow the money and you'll make sense of the decision is something I have run with when I have not figured out the reason behind something that seems to be a logical fallousy.

There might simply be a financial reason to do so?  Or perhaps there is something else to it like timing?

The under 20 world champs are on in the USA between the 5th and 9th of August.
The commonwealth games are on in glasgow July 23 to August 2nd. 

The fifa world cup final will be on july 19th in New york.  If its a process to acclimatise to your new location a couple of weeks before hand, gout gout may intend to attend the fifa world cup final before his event?  Plausible?  Not sure.  I dont know enough about this stuff.


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The Sports Desk / Re: Track and Field
Last post by LP -
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Then there's the fact that it will be Gout Gout's last World U/20 but he should be at the peak of his powers at the next Commonwealth Games ... and his team have always been very selective/conservative with his development.
Yes, it reminds me of the 90s era video games which have you collect all sorts of sh1zen along the journey, if you are to succeed you can't miss even a tiny bit, you have to hover up everything along the way.