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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 16 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast
Last post by laj -
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No harmonica this week.

I'd love to know what Davies and Wright are thinking right about now.

You'd have to think we'd be favorites against Richmond. 7 in a row would be sensational.
The way it's going we'll be 2 games from 6th after this weekend unless Adelaide can pluck this one right of  the fire. I'll worry about 10th first though.

After Richmond we have 3 tough games in the run home against Hawthorn, Brissie and Freo, the rest against sides around us in the same position. Hawthorn has been ok lately but nothing great, and hoping by the time we get to Freo they may have peaked and gone over the edge. As long as we beat Richmond and go 8-8, I'd like to win 5 from the last 7, giving us 13 wins. Even 4 gives us 12.

But, as we know, this is Carlton, so only focussing on Richmond and best not get too far ahead of myself.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 17 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Richmond at MCG
Last post by Gointocarlton -
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I think Rich will trouble us more than WC did today. I hope the trend of taking every opponent seriously every week irrespective of where they are on the ladder continues. If we take them lightly or treat them with contempt, we will do so out our peril.
Indeed, Richmond have played their best football against us for the last couple of years, much to my irritation. I don't want us to take them lightly, but I do want us to give them a day they want to forget.

Pitto has struggled against Nankervis in the past, and we have not much of a plan B for that situation. Also Richmond will have Lynch back, and he won't kick that badly again.
If Weitering were playing, Lynch wouldn't get a kick, but Weitering isn't going to play. Dean and Derksen will need to be on their game!
As good as Dean and Derksen have been, I'd imagine Lynch would monster them.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Voting AFL Rd 16 2026 Carlton vs West Coast
Last post by crashlander -
AFL Rd 16 2026   Carlton vs West Coast
Team:      A
I am happy with the result, as we managed to put a team away for a change. Could have been better, but we must always look to improve.

Votes:
As often with a game like this, managing the 15 votes will be a challenge. Most of our top players will not get as many votes as they could have. However, I would rather this problem than the reverse.
[1.5]   Patrick Cripps
[1.5]   Ben Ainsworth
[1.5]   Sam Walsh
[1.5]   Harry Dean
[1]   George Hewett
[1]   Jagga Smith
[1]   Harry McKay
[1]   Billy Wilson
[1]   Lachie Cowan
[1]   Nick Haynes
[0.5]   Talor Byrne
[0.5]   Nic Newman
[0.5]   Ollie Florent
[0.5]   Frankie Evans
[0.5]   Wade Derksen
[0.5]   Mitch McGovern

Explanations:
[1.5]   Patrick Cripps:      31 possessions, 6 tackles and 9 clearances. Another Cripps game.
[1.5]   Ben Ainsworth:   Probably his best game in our colours. He was instrumental in many of our best moves, and his kicking was what we needed. 28 possessions, 2 tackles, 5 clearances and an excellent goal.
[1.5]   Sam Walsh:      33 disposals, 4 tackles and 5 clearances was only the start. The way he ran and made space, his excellent hands and his commitment were excellent.
[1.5]   Harry Dean:      Kept Waterman goalless and provided huge positives for us in defence with his attack on the ball, his spoils, his intercept marking and his ability to smother his opponent.
[1]   George Hewett:   Another very solid game from George. 2 gaols should have been 3.
[1]   Jagga Smith:      Brilliant early and excellent throughout the game.
[1]   Harry McKay:      One of his better games, H was dynamic.
[1]   Billy Wilson:      Another excellent game from Wilson in defence. His run and kicking was excellent.
[1]   Lachie Cowan:   When it was hot, Lachie was excellent. 19 possessions and 9 marks.
[1]   Nick Haynes:      A brilliant game from Haynes, with interceptions, tackles, marks and more.
[0.5]   Talor Byrne:      Not huge numbers, but he got some real reward today. His snap from the picket was elite.
[0.5]   Nic Newman:      Another solid game from Nic Newman.
[0.5]   Ollie Florent:      Florent was fine in defence with his run, his interceptions and his attack on the ball.
[0.5]   Frankie Evans:   Not back to his best, but Frankie got some reward today. More possessions and real impact.
[0.5]   Wade Derksen:   Wade deserves a mention for taking out Shanahan, for making some great interceptions and for some saving marks.

Honourable Mentions:
Brodie Kemp:      A lot of work for little reward. Still Kemp was a contributor.
Adam Cerra:      On many occasions, Cerra would have got votes for his game, but today he has to look on.
Will Hayward:      I couldn’t squeeze Hayward in either. He started pretty slowly, but was dynamic when it was important.
Marc Pittonet:      Pitto may have been beaten in the ruck, but he did a power of work and was very influential in getting the ball moving our way.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 16 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast
Last post by LP -
I think fans are measuring the result against our recent history, so it looks extremely positive, it's like having a meat raffle win when you are a pauper, the win is a feast.

But it's the wrong relative measure, it should be measured against competition wide results, we aren't supping on lobster just yet, really it was the sort of minimal result we should be expecting if we are any good at all!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 16 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast
Last post by kruddler -
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Cmon Paul, its West Coast.

2026 - 4 wins, 11 losses
2025 - 1 win, 22 losses
2024 - 5 wins, 18 losses
2023 - 3 wins, 20 losses
2022 - 2 wins, 20 losses

15 wins, 91 losses
14% win loss record over their past 106 games. Even Pagan managed a 25% win rate with us.

Oh they beat essendon did they? The team that has 1 win from their past 27 games? What an achievement.

Lets celebrate the win, but lets not overstate the opponent to make ourselves feel better.
We were poor for half a match. They have been poor for 5 years.
I think the Weagles aren't going to be the rabble they have been. They seem to be on the right track. That is why I am happy we managed to put the foot down when we did.
If we played the Weagles of, say, 2024 today, we'd have won by over 100 points, even without a Charlie Curnow kicking 10. They have been awful, but they are not any longer. Hopefully, we can see them stumble, rather than come on. That way, we might be able to convince Reid that being on the east coast is a better alternative (especially in a dark blue guernsey).

No, they are not the same, but they are still a poor side.

They havent won a game in Melbourne since 2023.....against any team!

They've had 3 bigger losses than today, this year already.

Sure, better form. Still crap;

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 16 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast
Last post by laj -
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Cmon Paul, its West Coast.

2026 - 4 wins, 11 losses
2025 - 1 win, 22 losses
2024 - 5 wins, 18 losses
2023 - 3 wins, 20 losses
2022 - 2 wins, 20 losses

15 wins, 91 losses
14% win loss record over their past 106 games. Even Pagan managed a 25% win rate with us.

Oh they beat essendon did they? The team that has 1 win from their past 27 games? What an achievement.

Lets celebrate the win, but lets not overstate the opponent to make ourselves feel better.
We were poor for half a match. They have been poor for 5 years.
I think the Weagles aren't going to be the rabble they have been. They seem to be on the right track. That is why I am happy we managed to put the foot down when we did.
If we played the Weagles of, say, 2024 today, we'd have won by over 100 points, even without a Charlie Curnow kicking 10. They have been awful, but they are not any longer. Hopefully, we can see them stumble, rather than come on. That way, we might be able to convince Reid that being on the east coast is a better alternative (especially in a dark blue guernsey).
Yes, remember beating then 2nd last game in 2024 in Perth by 65pts with literally 19 blokes out of the side.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 16 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast
Last post by Sexybronco -
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Not sure people know how to react given our horrendous start to the season, me included. This teams performance is a far cry from the one that ran out at the start of the season so hard to know what to believe. Games against bogie teams in the coming weeks will be telling but let’s all enjoy this resurgence as it so probably where we should have been all along in 2026.

That's fair enough I guess. I'm not sure I would call the recent performances a far cry, although this is clearly a contentious issue. I think what has happened in recent weeks is that we have turned the winnable games earlier in the season into winning games. That in itself is a great achievement, for which Fraser deserves considerable credit. But I'm not seeing the quantum leaps that others are. It's a progression IMO.
Far cry may be a stretch but we don't look like going missing for a quarter or more which had become embarrassingly predictable. The St Kilda game was the worst I’ve seen live for a long time, hopefully those days are behind us.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 16 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast
Last post by laj -
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I am somewhat surprised at the lukewarm positivity on here. This is a big deal. Not many teams win 6 on the trot.

We monstered West Coast in very facet : in the air, ground ball, attack, pressure, effort, defence. We led the entire game. All the stats are significantly in our favour. They've been in close games in recent weeks and managed to jag a win against Essendon. I know despite their song, West Coast are not exactly flying high, but it's been several weeks since they lost by over 5 or 6 goals (in fact R7 against St Kilda).

Camarades, encore un effort !

Cmon Paul, its West Coast.

2026 - 4 wins, 11 losses
2025 - 1 win, 22 losses
2024 - 5 wins, 18 losses
2023 - 3 wins, 20 losses
2022 - 2 wins, 20 losses

15 wins, 91 losses
14% win loss record over their past 106 games. Even Pagan managed a 25% win rate with us.

Oh they beat essendon did they? The team that has 1 win from their past 27 games? What an achievement.

Lets celebrate the win, but lets not overstate the opponent to make ourselves feel better.
We were poor for half a match. They have been poor for 5 years.
Eagles had a decent 5 weeks leading to . Beat GWS, lost by a goal to Port, after beating them early in the year in Adelaide, lost to North by a point, beat them early in the year, and had a very close one against the Pies on Pendles record game. Of course, beat Essendon as we all do, as you said. Bar a couple of real super stinkers, they have been better than other years.

Nothing to trouble us though. 9 goal win that felt like 5 but should have been 15.