There is some seriously warped interpretations of what people are actually saying.
So far off the mark it's ridiculous.
Lost the plot completely.
I suspect some need a cup of tea, a Bex and a good lie down.
Saying Ollie may give us good service is nowhere near saying he's better than Charlie Curnow.
Its not about like for like though Lods. Its about what it gives to the team.
Charlie was a lone ranger.
Ollie is a team player.
If you asked chat GPT to rate these players based on what is said on these forums, it'd come to the same conclusion.....which would be opposite to the rest of the world.
I'm just highlighting that what is being said is also absurd.
There is some seriously warped interpretations of what people are actually saying.
So far off the mark it's ridiculous.
Lost the plot completely.
I suspect some need a cup of tea, a Bex and a good lie down.
Saying Ollie may give us good service is nowhere near saying he's better than Charlie Curnow.
Doesn't work that way Kruddler, we take the traitor's worst and our new player's best, even Chesser's 4 games lol.
I just said similar in another thread.How can you measure a players Average output?
All outgoing players are now no good.
All incoming players have never played a bad game or missed a game through injury.
Its hypocrisy.
Take them all at 'average' levels and go from there.
You'll come up with the same conclusion if you are honest.
I.e. Hayward? His formline stacks up over 3 years. Florent was sidelined by his coach, not his ability. So not sure its fair to do that with him, and Ainsworth had a solid year.
We are saying all these guys have to do is back up 2025 form, vs the outgoings 2025 form. Thats 11 games without being subbed off injured for JSOS.
Charlie went bog average by key forward standards. 18 games for 32 goals. 1.8 goals a game. Sure he kicked 27 behinds, but we wont miss those. All we need is Kemp to chime in for 18 games and kick 30. That will cover Charlie. Hayward and Ainsworth might make up the rest, if Kemp falls short, and Skull is a wildcard here. Played 5 games, kicked 3 goals.
TDK the ruckman is more of a unicorn than not. Thing is, you yourself @kruddler have stated that Pittonet shades him. So if Pittonet Shades him, TDK's 2025 was a mixed bag, where he was generally good for half the season and then came back to the field. Rucks are easier to cover, you just need a competitor. I.e. Is Cameron a better ruck than Grundy? Probably not. Cameron has played better footy than Grundy more often. Collingwood didnt miss him. Maybe we will have Pittonet finally have a consistent run.
JSOS. I love the guy. Is a competitor, hates being beaten. Thing is, he played 13 games, and missed 2024 completely. He was also not present for most of our best footy in 2023, and hasnt even played a final yet for us. Are we really going to pine about that now?
It reeks of agenda. What happened to being measured?
I said the debate centred around whether we would improve stay the same or go backwards in 2026 compared to 2025.
And on that basis you can only judge on what was on display in 2025
Florent didn't have a great year compared to his previous year.
I don't think I've mentioned him much.
Defence wasn't really a concern...our issues stemmed more around entry to the 50 the ability to keep it there, and forward efficiency.
Anyway, we'll see how Ollie goes this year.
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/1941089/micd-up-ollie-florent-at-training?videoId=1941089&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1765440286001
Ollie played as well as his coach allowed him to. Inexplicable coaching from someone who seems out of their depth.
I think that Ollie will make quite an impression next season both on the field and with his energy and leadership at training.
You said we are only judging on 2025.Defence wasn't really a concern...our issues stemmed more around entry to the 50 the ability to keep it there, and forward efficiency.
13 - Carlton
If it weren't for Jacob Weitering, the Blues would be much worse on the list.
The All-Australian defender not only held his own, but also assisted his teammates in their matchups.
Nick Haynes was shaky early but found his groove in the end and proved vital to the club's intercepting ability.
Ollie Hollands and Matt Carroll showed their skillset across half-back as the Blues' go-to ball users, while Adam Saad, despite playing 21 games, took a backwards seat.
The retired Sam Docherty and emerging Lachlan Cowan struggled with form and injury, contributing to the defensive woes, which were heightened when Mitch McGovern was in the backline.
Jack Silvagni and Lewis Young played 13 matches each, and the former will be sorely missed after joining St Kilda in the off-season.
Harry O'Farrell showed plenty, but will likely miss the majority of 2026 due to an ACL injury.
Whilst I understand your viewpoint I don’t share your enthusiasm Lods.
Doesn’t matter how many pigs ears we’ve got, we ain’t going to be a high end supplier of silk purses.
But it is what it is and we’ll see what we can make of it.
