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Ladies Lounge / Re: AFLW Season 2026
Last post by kruddler -
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WEST Coast has emerged as a potential suitor for contracted Carlton forward Keeley Skepper.

Skepper, a former first-round pick, has been told to explore her options away from the Blues after a frustrating campaign where she played just nine games.

West Coast holds an interest in Skepper, who is contracted at Carlton through until 2027, though talks around a potential trade are yet to progress.

This I still don't understand.
Not sure if there is more to the story, but i rate her above ahandful of players that were in our finals side and she plays the way you need to play to win finals as well.

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Experienced Blues ruck Jess Good and young forward Mia Austin have also had interest from rival clubs across the last month.
Doubt Good is going anywhere. Mates with Kez who got her across to the club.
Austin....i'd be open to a trade for the right price.

Also....
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JUST a few days after North Melbourne secured its second premiership in two years, the Roos have secured another boost in Kristie-Lee Weston-Turner nominating the club as her preferred trade destination.

Former pick 1 wants to go to the powerhouse club who doesn't lose games.  ::)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by kruddler -
@Thry.....

I get that, but at the end of the day, all we needed was points. You can get that a million ways....as we saw.

Had we done literally nothing, we could've ended up with the same exact players....just without maybe some future picks.

Yes, i'm aware of the benefit of future picks, but similar to this year, those picks are as much about points as it is about the actual picks. With future less important for points than this year (and any other year previous). So how important they will be is yet to be determined.

I'm much more impressed with someone like Essendon preying on someone desperate for points and bringing in top end talent at the expense of later picks. Something we fail to take advantage of. In fact i suggested we do exactly that with Gold Coast prior to draft night after i highlighted that they screwed up by not giving themselves enough picks. They did multiple trades on draft night to counteract that, i think we got a future 3rd out of it which we probably won't use as is anyway.


For teams, like us, and gold coast who know what talent they are getting, its simply a numbers game. Get as many points as possible and try and sell off any excess later and take whatever is left later in the draft.

I would've liked to have worked our way into using a pick 20-ish on some more a-grade talent, than a pick 47 on a small forward and some future picks.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by kruddler -
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Doesn't see why they are getting so much praise when all they did was draft blokes we knew we were getting.

You don't think all list managers go into a draft knowing which players they will draft or, if not, the players they are most likely to draft?

The only difference is that we had to announce the two players we were targeting rather than keeping shtum.
Yeah, which took all the guesswork out of it.
Yet they are hailed as great leaders and innovators.....and added a small forward to the mix.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Doesn't see why they are getting so much praise when all they did was draft blokes we knew we were getting.

You don't think all list managers go into a draft knowing which players they will draft or, if not, the players they are most likely to draft?

The only difference is that we had to announce the two players we were targeting rather than keeping shtum.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by kruddler -
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I think he's agreeing with me Lods. Doesn't see why they are getting so much praise when all they did was draft blokes we knew we were getting.

I'd be a hypocrite if i agreed with it wouldn't I?

I've been pretty consistent on this for the better part of a decade now i reckon.
Every year i hear that 'you need to give them time, or results want show for a few years etc', well i'm still waiting.
I think there would need to be a minor miracle occur this year for me to be proven wrong as i think the slide will continue with only minmal injuries (very unlike us) likely to overcome that slide.

But hey, this thread is about different ways to do things and they are executed what they set out to do which i've given them credit for. Just saying i wouldn't be going down the same path as them.

I respect the fact that you've been consistent.
Nothing wrong with that.
The only issue with consistency is that at some point we may have to change our minds regarding a fixed position.
It then becomes a case of flexibility.
A bit of give in a set position.
You're not there yet...You may never be, and in fact you may end up being right.
As Baggers points out the wheeling and dealing on draft night was a bit more complicated than just securing Dean and Ison.
If it had been Silvagni we'd probably be giving him kudos for his pick swapping

I've given them kudos for what they did. Thats what they wanted to do. They had a plan and acheived it. Its my issue with the plan itself, always has been.

I still think we should've gone a different direction, both last year and this year.

Fun fact, if we didn't do what we did last year, we wouldn't have had to do what we did this year. We had to do all these trades to dig us out of the hole they traded us in to last year. ;)

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: kruddler – on
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Kruddler gave them 'faint praise' for having a plan.
He also said he didn't agree with it.
So it was pretty faint :D

I think he's agreeing with me Lods. Doesn't see why they are getting so much praise when all they did was draft blokes we knew we were getting.

I'd be a hypocrite if i agreed with it wouldn't I?

I've been pretty consistent on this for the better part of a decade now i reckon.
Every year i hear that 'you need to give them time, or results want show for a few years etc', well i'm still waiting.
I think there would need to be a minor miracle occur this year for me to be proven wrong as i think the slide will continue with only minmal injuries (very unlike us) likely to overcome that slide.

But hey, this thread is about different ways to do things and they are executed what they set out to do which i've given them credit for. Just saying i wouldn't be going down the same path as them.

I respect the fact that you've been consistent.
Nothing wrong with that.
The only issue with consistency is that at some point we may have to change our minds regarding a fixed position.
It then becomes a case of flexibility.
A bit of give in a set position.
You're not there yet...You may never be, and in fact you may end up being right.
As Baggers points out the wheeling and dealing on draft night was a bit more complicated than just securing Dean and Ison.
If it had been Silvagni we'd probably be giving him kudos for his pick swapping
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by Baggers -
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Praise for what Lods? We selected a father son and our acedmy pick.

It's not that we got Harry and Jack, we were always going to get them as you pointed out, but it was the way we did it - swapping picks and going further back into the draft yet keeping necessary points, then being able to secure a future 2nd and 3rd in the process of getting our targets + Taylor Byrne.