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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Where will Carlton finish?
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: kruddler – on
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Sorry im a fence sitter.  My range is, wheels fall off as low as 14th.  Things go swimmingly premiership from 2nd to 4th.  Things go average, and results not going our way, probably around 8th.
So anywhere other than bottom 4. lol
there are enough teams that are terrible that even at our worst we wont fall that far. 

West Coast will struggle to win games.  Melbourne will absolutely slide further.  Richmond arent getting good yet, and im pegging another club will slide perhaps on purpose this season, and it wouldn't shock me if it were Collingwood.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Where will Carlton finish?
Last post by northernblue -
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Sorry im a fence sitter.  My range is, wheels fall off as low as 14th.  Things go swimmingly premiership from 2nd to 4th.  Things go average, and results not going our way, probably around 8th. 

I think if the wheels do fall off the cellar is the limit.
I also think 8th should have every member reaching for their fly… 😎
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by Lods -
New depths reached over the Obama heads on the bodies of monkeys.
Not by Trump for sharing....we knew what he was.
The behaviour is not surprising in his case.

But by those who are actually trying to excuse the abhorrent images as taken out of context and part of a larger jungle theme. ::)  ::)  ::)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Where will Carlton finish?
Last post by Thryleon -
Sorry im a fence sitter.  My range is, wheels fall off as low as 14th.  Things go swimmingly premiership from 2nd to 4th.  Things go average, and results not going our way, probably around 8th. 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Where will Carlton finish?
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: Lods – on
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Its also a little about the ranges highlighted. Many a person, myself including, are over a couple ranges.

Its all guesswork anyway so hardly the end of thw world, but one thing i should add is that doesnt take into accoubt the carlton bias. You coukd almost shift down half a step/a full step of each vote to take that into account.

Bias will impact everyone's predictions  ;)  :D
If you've convinced yourself and argued for a good or bad season you'll tend to gravitate and give weight to a range that fits your forecast.

Individually, perhaps, as a group, no. It will all average it as favourable towards the club you support, for all 18 teams.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Where will Carlton finish?
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: kruddler – on
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It's interesting looking at the poll
We've had the "Chicken little" predictions and some "pie in the sky" predictions over the off-season, but inthe end mostly we're settling into expecting a ladder position that is either a few spots up or a few spots down from 2025

And those sort of fluctuations will almost solely be determined by luck and injury.

Its also a little about the ranges highlighted. Many a person, myself including, are over a couple ranges.

Its all guesswork anyway so hardly the end of thw world, but one thing i should add is that doesnt take into accoubt the carlton bias. You coukd almost shift down half a step/a full step of each vote to take that into account.

Bias will impact everyone's predictions  ;)  :D
If you've convinced yourself and argued for a good or bad season you'll tend to gravitate and give weight to a range that fits your forecast.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Where will Carlton finish?
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: Lods – on
It's interesting looking at the poll
We've had the "Chicken little" predictions and some "pie in the sky" predictions over the off-season, but inthe end mostly we're settling into expecting a ladder position that is either a few spots up or a few spots down from 2025

And those sort of fluctuations will almost solely be determined by luck and injury.

Its also a little about the ranges highlighted. Many a person, myself including, are over a couple ranges.

Its all guesswork anyway so hardly the end of thw world, but one thing i should add is that doesnt take into accoubt the carlton bias. You coukd almost shift down half a step/a full step of each vote to take that into account.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Where will Carlton finish?
Last post by Lods -
It's interesting looking at the poll
We've had the "Chicken little" predictions and some "pie in the sky" predictions over the off-season, but inthe end mostly we're settling into expecting a ladder position that is either a few spots up or a few spots down from 2025

And those sort of fluctuations will almost solely be determined by luck and injury.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Where will Carlton finish?
Last post by Baggers -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Voss hasnt changed since his Brisbane days, same game plan, same player exodus issues and Daniel Bradshaw was reincarnated as Matt Kennedy before he received his holy marching orders and was excommunicated from the flock  . Its Dejavu so far with only the ending to come, will it be any different than 2013?
I have noticed that a few of the Voss and List spruikers are now lowering the bar and happy to accept missing finals in 2026, what happened to the new improved list, new football manager and new director of coaching? Surely there are no more excuses?
I have spent the last few months reading on the forum how TDK, Charlie and Jacks leaving was a blessing and they were holding back the club and how the new players have made us a much better team but that all seems to be changing since we are getting closer to the first round and those ultra positive supporters caught up in the hype are now in full retreat...
 

This optimistic supporter is not in full retreat, EB1 old son. Nuh. Not bullish though. Powder dry, kind of optimistic... sprinkled with an acknowledgement of the unknown. And that's what we are now, somewhat an unknown entity due to strong change in personnel and what will be a change in some aspects of our game plan.

Our weakness under Vossy is as you point out - "contest and pressure is all you need, then kick it to the two tall forwards and everything will magically fall into place."

Change has been forced upon us with the departure of 'the three.' It seems we've adapted to that change well... got some leg speed, disposal skills and a multi-dimensional forward set up.

Though not in the prediction business, I would not be at all surprised to see us jump up the ladder and be a much better side than last year. In fact, I renewed my membership optimistically!