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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: The EV thread
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
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I saw some random youtube video on BYD and how they are heavily backed by the chinese government and its not sustainable and could potentially go bust if one of a couple things happen.
It was kinda just on in the background, but it seemed theoroughly researched and plenty of facts and figures based on annual figures etc etc.

Was a bit worrying as if any of it came to fruition, it would cause complete chaos to the car market.
BYD get looked after by the Chinese Government with subsidies and cheap state bank loans because they are seen as a national success story, they do have some debt but its not extreme.
Founder led listed business on the HK exchange and the Chairman who runs it is a keen CCP member with an interest in China's strategic position and hasnt had to have his arm twisted to align himself with Xi's directives.
Their sales figures have dropped at home but with Xi helping him out Id expect that to be mitigated and they will stay on top of the  EV heap while the brand stay aligned with the Government..
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: The EV thread
Last post by kruddler -
I saw some random youtube video on BYD and how they are heavily backed by the chinese government and its not sustainable and could potentially go bust if one of a couple things happen.
It was kinda just on in the background, but it seemed theoroughly researched and plenty of facts and figures based on annual figures etc etc.

Was a bit worrying as if any of it came to fruition, it would cause complete chaos to the car market.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: The EV thread
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
 Top 10 selling Automotive Brands in Australia in the 1st half of 2026

Toyota – 95,141 (-21.4%)
BYD – 52,335 (+124.1%)
Ford – 42,296 (-10.6%)
Kia – 41,846 (+2.7%)
Mazda – 40,502 (-17.2%)
Hyundai – 39,590 (+1.6%)
GWM – 30,359 (+20.5%)
Chery – 24,964 (+76.8%)
Mitsubishi – 24,802 (-25.7%)
Tesla – 23,588 (+66.7%)
MG (11th at 23,146, +6.8%) and Isuzu Ute (12th at 20,472, -6.4%) both fell out of the top 10 but will be aiming to return in the months ahead, while some big names accustomed to ‘permanent’ positions among the leading brands have a mountain to climb: Subaru (13th, 14,817, -25.6%), Nissan (14th, 13,854, -32.8%) and Volkswagen (16th,12,333, -16.5%), for example.
Id say all three will be struggling to maintain a presence in Australia in the next few years and look on the way out.
Notably, Chinese newcomer Geely has sold 10,970 cars in the first half of 2026 (+494.6%), placing it on a fast track towards the top 10.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by crashlander -
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Ready for tomorrow night.

Great scott!

We've disrupted the space-time continuum by changing something in our past leading to an alternative timeline where we actuality play collingwood in round 1 this year!  :o

..... otherwise known as...
Can fix the round number in the title.   ;)
My error. I am human ... I think.
Hmmmm ... no pointed ears, no green blood ... yeah, I think I'm human. :)
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Ladies Lounge / Re: VFLW 2026
Last post by DJC -
GEELONG CATS vs CARLTON
Saturday 18 July, 12:05pm, Deakin University

GEELONG CATS
B: M. Walton (49), E. Cook (80)
HB: A. Lee (53), A. Oswald (79), J. Sunderland (52)
C: B. Crabtree (55), M. Morrissy (57), L. Marescuk (63)
HF: N. Harris (81), M. Sexton (56), C. Canavan (47)
F: S. O'Kane (33), F. Qoon (70)
R: H. Peck (37), M. Staunton (39), T. Crabtree (50)
INT: M. Cotten (75), B. Borchard (60), C. Boxer (69), C. Summers (83), J. Hurring (76)
EMG: A. Schlink (48), Z. Kelly (51), O. Wolter (58), B. Lewis (64), L. Massie (65), O. Woods (67), C. Hurn (72)

IN: C. Boxer, J. Sunderland
OUT: S. Nalder (quad), O. Wolter (omitted)

CARLTON
B: M. Fitzgerald (80), L. Burke (74)
HB: A. Allen (63), E. Horne (12), A. Mulvahil (16)
C: O. Di Donato (51), H. Scott (79), S. Demeo (66)
HF: D. Spamer (17), S. McCarthy (54), H. Bowey (71)
F: T. Plunkett (69), N. Morris-Dalton (52)
R: E. Sbeghen (59), A. Turner-Funk (53), E. Elkington (31)
INT: A. Acquaro (78), Z. Larkins (77), L. Stone (70), K. Busuttil (72), M. Meagher (62)
EMG: D. Di Santo (76), C. Van Loon (56), I. Stanley (18), S. Hall (50)

IN: A. Acquaro, A. Allen, M. Meagher, H. Scott, L. Stone
OUT: L. Baxter, K. Bischa, L. Keck, G. Pound (unavailable), C. Van Loon (omitted)
NEW: Alli Allen, 17, 172cm, Northern Knights/Lower Plenty; Maddison Meagher, 17, 164cm, Northern Knights/Diamond Creek Women's; Lola Stone, 18, 172cm, Northern Knights/Heidelberg

Head-to-head: Geelong 6-4; At Deakin University: Tied 1-1; Streak: Geelong 1; Last time: Carlton 2.2 (14) def by Geelong Cats 8.8 (56) – Round 9, 2025, IKON Park
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG
Last post by Gointocarlton -
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Reidy looked aggressive and like he had a mean streak in the preseason. Sadly he as demonstrated none of that in the season proper. Like HOK, he is all bark and no bite I'm affraid.
I hope Reidy can step up this week, not just because we really need him to, but because his career really needs him to respond. He wasn't the guy I would have recruited, but that doesn't mean I don't want him to succeed.
Stop gap and not the answer for us. I hold more hope for Riley, either way we need to do some work on our no 1 ruck position in near future.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG
Last post by crashlander -
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Bit of a mean streak! Let's just say I hope Pitto is recovering well... If anyone runs the potential of getting reported if the game gets hot, it'd be Reidy.
Reidy looked aggressive and like he had a mean streak in the preseason. Sadly he as demonstrated none of that in the season proper. Like HOK, he is all bark and no bite I'm affraid.
I hope Reidy can step up this week, not just because we really need him to, but because his career really needs him to respond. He wasn't the guy I would have recruited, but that doesn't mean I don't want him to succeed.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Voting AFL Rd 18 2026 Carlton vs Hawthorn
Last post by crashlander -
I just realized I hadn't voted yet. Not that it would be a fun process after last week's capitulation, but ...

AFL 2026 Rd 18   Carlton vs Hawthorn

Team:   E
Our last half was pretty ordinary, very disappointing. Our first half wasn’t that bad: without the umps we would have been inn the game.
Unfortunately, our structural deficiencies and lack of skills were very much on show.

Votes:
[5]   Sam Walsh
[3]   Adam Cerra
[2]   Jagga Smith
[1]   Mitch McGovern
[1]   Nic Newman   
[1]   Harry Dean
[0.5]   Talor Byrne
[0.5]   Francis Evans
[0.5]   Nick Haynes
[0.5]   Wade Derksen

Explanations:
[5]   Sam Walsh:      Easily our best player, Sam managed a game high 35 possessions to a losing ruck, 4 tackles and 7 clearances.
[3]   Adam Cerra:      Adam went into the midfield when George went off (after George started very strongly) and managed 27 possessions and 14 tackles.
[2]   Jagga Smith:      A good game from Jagga without being dominant. 20 possessions, 6 tackles and 3 clearances.
[1]   Mitch McGovern:   Our only reasonably effective forward for the night, Mitch managed to get marks and kick goals when others couldn’t get a kick.
[1]   Nic Newman:      Not Nic’s best game, but he was one of our better players. 27 possessions and 6 tackles.   
[1]   Harry Dean:      Harry was more than decent in defence.
[0.5]   Talor Byrne:      Talor showed more than a little, he was dangerous when others just weren’t. His kicking needs serious work.
[0.5]   Francis Evans:   A big effort from Frankie that was generally unrewarded.
[0.5]   Nick Haynes:      Not as good as he has been, but still one of our better players.
[0.5]   Wade Derksen:   Did a pretty good job.

Honourable Mentions:
Flynn Riley:      Flynn was badly beaten by Meek, but he wasn’t embarrassed. His goal was brilliant and he was reasonable in the air. Showed that he had a future, even though he was beaten.
Lachie Cowan:   Like a lot of our defenders, Lachie was reasonable without being as dominant as he has been.
Billy Wilson:      Not as much run and carry, and a couple of bad disposal errors, but Wilson did a pretty good job defensively.
Patrick Cripps:      21 possessions and 7 clearances would normally not be that bad. However, for Crippa he was definitely down. The ball was not being tapped to anywhere where he could get it. 9 tackles.