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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by DJC -
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The couple metres back is an umpire directive and i cant understand it.

Forever and a day, wherever you take a mark, a player stands on the mark.
This got tricky when a player took a mark on a lead, with the player on the mark asked to come back a bit as his chasing momentum took him over the mark. Fair.

However in the modern game the umpire almost always asks the player to come back off the mark for no reason.

I commented on it in our game. A player took a Mark on the centre square line. The man in the mark was wanted to stand in the 50m arc. Thats a good 3-4m back of not more. This is not an outside 5, or a stand. That's where the umpires marked the line.
Forget who it was but the player kicked a goal, just clearing the players on the goal line.

I think that was the Short goal I mentioned.

Yes, umpires call players back.  Ollie Hollands cribbed about 2m over the mark and the umpire was, "2m back Ollie."  But that's different to when our players scuttle backwards of their own volition.  I think it must be something they're coached to do, and that's fine, as long as they don't give up a cm when an opponent is around the 50m line.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -
In reality if we focus on crime it is as high or even higher in most other locations, crime is a focus of some / many locals but it would be only a part of the assessment, and compared to most competing international locations we have almost no crime. And we certainly have next to nothing compared to New York, London, Edinburgh and Shanghai.

I've spent a lot of time in Shanghai, and the only people killing more individuals than the crooks would have been the authorities, it a demonstrative case that arbitrary capital punishment fixes nothing. If anything, it just makes the crooks more reactive.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Lapses- Physical or Mental
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: Thryleon – on
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Thats half the problem though isn't it.
Players edging into an area past their prime and not enough young talent coming in to bridge the gap.
It is not necessarily about ins vs outs player by player.

This has been a big criticism from me over the journey. Each individual player recruitment in itself is not necessarily a bad idea. You can build a good case for every player recruited vs what they cost us.

However, list building is not about getting a clump of individuals together, instead its about building a fully fleshed out list that is not easily defeated by some injuries.
This is why i've been banging on about our 37 small forward recruits over the journey.
All can play football to different degrees. But they do not make our team/list better when half of them are forced to play 2's because we have too many in the 1's already.
At the same time having only 1 AFL capable KPF on the list, and only somewhat better at the other end.
Agree, but the point was our strong list depth wasn't really strong as soon as the game went to a more precise skilful kicking style.

We lived and died by our good players playing well and our form is coinciding with the top dropping off not the bottom.

Our list was not fully formed, sure, but nobody said it was.
It is more 'out of shape' now than it was though, which is MBBs point.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Lapses- Physical or Mental
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: kruddler – on
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that might be true but our maturing elderly were in their prime.  We've not exactly see our list flourish elsewhere with the exception of Kennedy.

Everyone else is gone from the afl or spare parts player.  The wheels had fallen off by the time Charlie, jsos and tdk moved on.  Every other player who left us is retired, or cant get a game.

Thats half the problem though isn't it.
Players edging into an area past their prime and not enough young talent coming in to bridge the gap.
It is not necessarily about ins vs outs player by player.

This has been a big criticism from me over the journey. Each individual player recruitment in itself is not necessarily a bad idea. You can build a good case for every player recruited vs what they cost us.

However, list building is not about getting a clump of individuals together, instead its about building a fully fleshed out list that is not easily defeated by some injuries.
This is why i've been banging on about our 37 small forward recruits over the journey.
All can play football to different degrees. But they do not make our team/list better when half of them are forced to play 2's because we have too many in the 1's already.
At the same time having only 1 AFL capable KPF on the list, and only somewhat better at the other end.
Agree, but the point was our strong list depth wasn't really strong as soon as the game went to a more precise skilful kicking style.

We lived and died by our good players playing well and our form is coinciding with the top dropping off not the bottom.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Lapses- Physical or Mental
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Quote from: madbluboy – on
The list was stronger a couple of years ago.
that might be true but our maturing elderly were in their prime.  We've not exactly see our list flourish elsewhere with the exception of Kennedy.

Everyone else is gone from the afl or spare parts player.  The wheels had fallen off by the time Charlie, jsos and tdk moved on.  Every other player who left us is retired, or cant get a game.

Thats half the problem though isn't it.
Players edging into an area past their prime and not enough young talent coming in to bridge the gap.
It is not necessarily about ins vs outs player by player.

This has been a big criticism from me over the journey. Each individual player recruitment in itself is not necessarily a bad idea. You can build a good case for every player recruited vs what they cost us.

However, list building is not about getting a clump of individuals together, instead its about building a fully fleshed out list that is not easily defeated by some injuries.
This is why i've been banging on about our 37 small forward recruits over the journey.
All can play football to different degrees. But they do not make our team/list better when half of them are forced to play 2's because we have too many in the 1's already.
At the same time having only 1 AFL capable KPF on the list, and only somewhat better at the other end.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by kruddler -
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I saw that a couple of days ago.

It seems as though the methodology of that survey is not, shall we say, particularly robust. Possible more for sh1ts and giggles than anything else. What is important IMO, is that across a range of different surveys / analyses from different institutions, Melbourne is constantly ranked near the top, as the 2nd half of this article shows.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/mar/11/time-out-melbourne-best-city-world
living off past glories IMHO.

Perhaps these lists arent what they're cracked up to be.

Yep....hard to get up to the minute information on every city around the world and collate it in a meaningful way.
A lot of the data is reused from days past.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls
Last post by Thryleon -
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Operation Epic Fury, or perhaps that should be Epic Foolishness, is a classic clusterf*ck.

No defined justification, no clear objectives, no exit strategy, no consideration of the vulnerability of the Strait of Hormuz, underestimating the capacity and doggedness of the Iranians, taking the pressure off the Russians, weakening South Korea's air defences, screwing the economy ...

Then there's the human toll.  Apart from death and injury, it's estimated that between 25% and 75% of military personnel serving in the Middle East will suffer from PTSD - and that includes our Wedgetail crew and support staff.

Yes.

I have a view that isnt gully formed and isnt well fleshed out.

I get the idea that this war had started in earnest a long time ago.

The Russian operation in Ukraine is part of it.  That move never really made a lot of sense to me, but we all know whats happening now.  Without that move, Iran couldnt simply close the straight of Hormuz.  There was an alternate path.  This is the cold war.  What started in Libya had progressed to the right on the map, pretty much in a straight line.  Its the war without war, more skirmishes and positioning.

The power balance was flipping so Iran has simply become the next battle line.  One that is proving too difficult an obstacle.  The nuclear thing is rubbish.  Regime change, also rubbish.  That could have been insighted differently without the open aggression.

There is a scenario of perhaps the Israelis were poking the bear to tune their defenses.  I reckon everyone wants to see the drone capabilities, the cluster missiles and how better to get access to the tech than provoking use of them.

Now you get to see it in the field before someone truly goes on the offensive with it. 

Like I said not well fleshed out, and definitely in theory, but I dont think America is too phased by whats happening and israels palestine, hamas, Lebanon thing is just the continuation of what was going on. That attack in Bondi, was simply a message being sent.  You can hit us anywhere we can hit you from your own populace.

Worrying times, but at the same time likely to fizzle out by design.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Thryleon -
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According to Time Out, Shanghai, Edinburgh, London and New York are in the top five for the world's best cites, but the champion of the Best Cities list for 2026 is Melbourne.

Who'da thunk it!

I saw that a couple of days ago.

It seems as though the methodology of that survey is not, shall we say, particularly robust. Possible more for sh1ts and giggles than anything else. What is important IMO, is that across a range of different surveys / analyses from different institutions, Melbourne is constantly ranked near the top, as the 2nd half of this article shows.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/mar/11/time-out-melbourne-best-city-world
living off past glories IMHO.

Perhaps these lists arent what they're cracked up to be.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Lapses- Physical or Mental
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: madbluboy – on
The list was stronger a couple of years ago.
that might be true but our maturing elderly were in their prime.  We've not exactly see our list flourish elsewhere with the exception of Kennedy.

Everyone else is gone from the afl or spare parts player.  The wheels had fallen off by the time Charlie, jsos and tdk moved on.  Every other player who left us is retired, or cant get a game.