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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -
Quote from: Micky0 – on
Suffice to say imo most rational empathetic people want betterment for all.  I dont see Poorline or her alcoholic sidekick Barnaby having that in mind.
It's a good policy to have.

Don't wait up too long to hear Hanson sprout a policy that helps everyone without collateral damage, it isn't coming.

The ON policy engine specialises in victimisation and excuses, pointing the finger and distraction.

Are we surprised that "What About Me" was such a big hit in Oz and globally, in a different light it's a piss take about narcissism and must rate well with Looksmaxxers, Influencers and Joe Rogan?

Our society sells it's soul to be married on telly!
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Micky0 -
I wrote a big long post but deleted it because this is my place to read about footy - but
I cant take anyone seriously that will vote ON and cbf with the argument - Im still hurting from a close friend spewing the same pro ON bullcrap she reads in the HS.

Suffice to say imo most rational empathetic people want betterment for all.  I dont see Poorline or her alcoholic sidekick Barnaby having that in mind.


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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by shawny -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: shawny – on


Kruddler, ON may appear to be a risky selection but we have no option with what the current mob haev done to this state. We are in world of pain with debt our great grandkids will still be paying off, essential services that have never been worse crime is off its head, pot holes you can lose a motorbike in, hospital and ambulance waiting times in their worst state and because of what Trump has done in the states we should not support PH? Its a defeatist attitude the current mob are fking useless and anyone even considering voting for them should book in with a neurologist to have their brain examaned 

Its like staying with a partner that belts you as the new guy may strangle you.

Enough is enough time for a change and like it or not its going to happen!

Be careful what you wish for is all i'm saying.

I'm not saying there is a magic button to fix everything, but one way or another it will get worse before it gets better. How much worse is up for debate and time will tell.

Kruddler, theres risks in every change and of course whatever you have may not be as bad as what you can get - that's life and if that's your way of thinking stay in bed pull the covers over yourself and stay there all day.

Voting for Labour is endorsing the current state we are in and why it just cant happen and i dont think it will. 
   
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: shawny – on
Quote from: kruddler – on


Some people cannot learn by watching other people make mistakes, they need to make those same mistakes themselves.

Thats us, with ON. Sure, we could learn from Trump and USA, but no.....we 'know' better.

Labour and Liberals.....both have their flaws....and numerous ones at that.
However, it won't be until one nation get in, that we realise how bad things can actually get....and by then we'll be begging for labour or liberal to come back into power.



Kruddler, ON may appear to be a risky selection but we have no option with what the current mob haev done to this state. We are in world of pain with debt our great grandkids will still be paying off, essential services that have never been worse crime is off its head, pot holes you can lose a motorbike in, hospital and ambulance waiting times in their worst state and because of what Trump has done in the states we should not support PH? Its a defeatist attitude the current mob are fking useless and anyone even considering voting for them should book in with a neurologist to have their brain examaned 

Its like staying with a partner that belts you as the new guy may strangle you.

Enough is enough time for a change and like it or not its going to happen!

Be careful what you wish for is all i'm saying.

I'm not saying there is a magic button to fix everything, but one way or another it will get worse before it gets better. How much worse is up for debate and time will tell.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Rumour mill starting to suggest that the government is searching for ways to fill the holes in the public purse, and some genius is floating a 15% GST.

Yeah, trust these guys.

They remove transparency around the 1% EFT surcharge.  Then ive heard remove the capability of using a credit card to pay.  Wouldnt want to create the impression we lifted prices would we?
Increase taxation on everything under the sun, trying to create a "level playing field" by failing to hit the root cause of a lack of supply, lets smash demand!
Meanwhile, they spend like there is no tomorrow whilst somehow still failing to fill the needs of today.
Then, they blame joe average for inflation when every tom dick and harry know that Trumps war in Iran has more to do with it, than anything else.  Oh there isnt fuel shortages, but we are now paying on average 70 cents a litre more at the pump than we did this time last year and what did they do?  We cut the fuel excise for a couple of months there to help.   Im lucky I get away with filling up my car once a month on average.  My Mrs?  Not so much.  She has to go into 3 different offices across 4 days.  So she is filling up once a week to once a fortnight.   Oh get an EV.  Yeah, we didn't budget for an expedited out of pocket cost of the car, the charging and the solar panels to really make it viable.  Electricity still costs money.
Then what do we hear?  People are still spending money...

I found out recently my 75 year old widow mother is unable to get a pension due to means testing.  She owns her home outright you see, so she is self funding her retirement.  Not even pensioner discounts, despite having worked, taken 12 to 15 years off to raise 3 kids, and then going back to work as a secretary.   Her reward for losing her life partner early at age 56 was a one off payment into her super and a consolidated super amount.   Sure, it has to be means tested, but not even getting pension discounts on stuff like electricity, insurance, registration and gas?  Meanwhile, my inlaws get a pension from their country of origin because they moved here in 1990 and worked there until age 40.  Guess what they also get, an Australian Pension, and all the discounts.  2 cars for them, 50% off.  A pension from a european nation, and an Aussie one.  Mum?  Shes been here since she was 2.  You pay full price.  Make it make sense please, oh here it is.  her parents emigrated here.  Worked hard.  Raised two daughters.  They had kids.  The parents passed 8 years ago, and their modest old family home that sold for less than 1 million, is fueling her retirement (split between 2 daughters).  Ah gotcha.   She's affluent now.    Unlucky for her my dad died from cancer at age 56, she would have been a pensioner otherwise as they would have had 2 people splitting that capital rather than 1.  Thats ok, she will run out of money in 5 years, but she might die before then anyway.  If she needs care though...  stuffed.  They will eat whatever she has saved, and we might inherit a few bucks at the end. It will get taxed no doubt.

Thats alright, there is a G8 summit around the corner.  No doubt the polis will fly their way around to gather shake hands and take some photos whilst calling it working.  Microsoft teams not a thing for you guys?  The people actually doing the jobs will likely be stuck in offices here trying to feed the 5000 with the equivalent of a loaf of bread and two fish. 

That sucks Thry, it aint right or fair. We share remarkably similar stories, mums a little older at 87 and came here when she was 17. Dad passed away from cancer at 59 in 1992 so she's been alone for a long time. She owns her home and little else other than some modest savings, its hard but she makes ends meet. She gets a partial Euro pension (hers and dads) and a reduced Aussie pension. At least she gets a discount on the utilities and rego (not sure how long she'll drive for) which all helps. I feel like the elderly in this country are the least looked after demographic out of all Aussies. There is also zero common sense around how they decide who gets what.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by shawny -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: Lods – on


That's quite true.
And given the failure of the traditional major parties you can see that some may look to something different.

It may be that the attraction of an alternative needs to be tested by a spell in power before folks understand the ramifications of that choice.
It's possible that experience would put the alternative to rest once and for all.

But the major problem I'm guessing at is that the Victorian election will throw up a dog's breakfast...and stability will be difficult to achieve.

Some people cannot learn by watching other people make mistakes, they need to make those same mistakes themselves.

Thats us, with ON. Sure, we could learn from Trump and USA, but no.....we 'know' better.

Labour and Liberals.....both have their flaws....and numerous ones at that.
However, it won't be until one nation get in, that we realise how bad things can actually get....and by then we'll be begging for labour or liberal to come back into power.



Kruddler, ON may appear to be a risky selection but we have no option with what the current mob haev done to this state. We are in world of pain with debt our great grandkids will still be paying off, essential services that have never been worse crime is off its head, pot holes you can lose a motorbike in, hospital and ambulance waiting times in their worst state and because of what Trump has done in the states we should not support PH? Its a defeatist attitude the current mob are fking useless and anyone even considering voting for them should book in with a neurologist to have their brain examaned 

Its like staying with a partner that belts you as the new guy may strangle you.

Enough is enough time for a change and like it or not its going to happen!
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by shawny -
Quote from: Professer E – on
See this is the point that some are making. It's easy to rite off ON as "populist" or call them whatever names you like, but it's a choice, which is about the only thing we have left.  Who is actually worth voting for and can form a viable, effective government - in for example Victoria?  Labour is clouded in a miasma of corruption and incompetence, and the Libs haven't been an effective opposition for years. Plus they couldn't be trusted to run a chook raffle. In the end it's personal choice, the only part of the Democratic process left to us.

Sounds a little like the discussion on the Voss coaching debate.  The replacement may be worse so maybe we should just continue with the same - Its BS. If they dont perform get them out. 

Labour have ran this state to the ground - are as corrupt as any party in history with long union ties not to mention underworld figures and even though they deny, divert, lie and shift blame whenever challenged everyone with even a half functioning brain knows it.

The people are over the BS verbal spin and want action. They want a party who is willing make decisions on what's best for us the tax paying law abiding hard working citizens and in the process stop with the handouts to those who contribute F all and wont assimilate and not roll over to the woke left.  

Enough is enough. November election cant come quick enough
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Thryleon -
Rumour mill starting to suggest that the government is searching for ways to fill the holes in the public purse, and some genius is floating a 15% GST.

Yeah, trust these guys.

They remove transparency around the 1% EFT surcharge.  Then ive heard remove the capability of using a credit card to pay.  Wouldnt want to create the impression we lifted prices would we?
Increase taxation on everything under the sun, trying to create a "level playing field" by failing to hit the root cause of a lack of supply, lets smash demand!
Meanwhile, they spend like there is no tomorrow whilst somehow still failing to fill the needs of today.
Then, they blame joe average for inflation when every tom dick and harry know that Trumps war in Iran has more to do with it, than anything else.  Oh there isnt fuel shortages, but we are now paying on average 70 cents a litre more at the pump than we did this time last year and what did they do?  We cut the fuel excise for a couple of months there to help.   Im lucky I get away with filling up my car once a month on average.  My Mrs?  Not so much.  She has to go into 3 different offices across 4 days.  So she is filling up once a week to once a fortnight.   Oh get an EV.  Yeah, we didn't budget for an expedited out of pocket cost of the car, the charging and the solar panels to really make it viable.  Electricity still costs money.
Then what do we hear?  People are still spending money...

I found out recently my 75 year old widow mother is unable to get a pension due to means testing.  She owns her home outright you see, so she is self funding her retirement.  Not even pensioner discounts, despite having worked, taken 12 to 15 years off to raise 3 kids, and then going back to work as a secretary.   Her reward for losing her life partner early at age 56 was a one off payment into her super and a consolidated super amount.   Sure, it has to be means tested, but not even getting pension discounts on stuff like electricity, insurance, registration and gas?  Meanwhile, my inlaws get a pension from their country of origin because they moved here in 1990 and worked there until age 40.  Guess what they also get, an Australian Pension, and all the discounts.  2 cars for them, 50% off.  A pension from a european nation, and an Aussie one.  Mum?  Shes been here since she was 2.  You pay full price.  Make it make sense please, oh here it is.  her parents emigrated here.  Worked hard.  Raised two daughters.  They had kids.  The parents passed 8 years ago, and their modest old family home that sold for less than 1 million, is fueling her retirement (split between 2 daughters).  Ah gotcha.   She's affluent now.    Unlucky for her my dad died from cancer at age 56, she would have been a pensioner otherwise as they would have had 2 people splitting that capital rather than 1.  Thats ok, she will run out of money in 5 years, but she might die before then anyway.  If she needs care though...  stuffed.  They will eat whatever she has saved, and we might inherit a few bucks at the end. It will get taxed no doubt.

Thats alright, there is a G8 summit around the corner.  No doubt the polis will fly their way around to gather shake hands and take some photos whilst calling it working.  Microsoft teams not a thing for you guys?  The people actually doing the jobs will likely be stuck in offices here trying to feed the 5000 with the equivalent of a loaf of bread and two fish.