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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by shawny -
Quote from: DJC – on
Quote from: shawny – on
The goverment prevented a professional tennis player entering the country because he wouldnt take a vaccine but cant find a way to prevent ISIS sympathises who left on their own accord back onto our shores as its un lawfull. really?

Our PM provided his usual lip service after the Bondi terror attack saying he would make any changes needed to keep us safe yet as usual when it comes to the crunch he lies diverts and fails to act.

Yet people are still surprised with one nations rapid support.

The public have had a gutful of the current party.

Sorry Shawny but you’re not the public and I think you’ll find that the sensible centre has had a gutful of extremist claims, be they right or left.

As with the CFMEU $15-30Bn beat up, none of this stands up to scrutiny.  The Government, regardless of its persuasion, has to comply with the law. 


How do you explain one nation which is about as far right wing as you can get rapidly rising in popularity

Or is it another beat up BS story like the 15-30B of our tax payers money going to illegal activities, which as it cant be verified to your liking is now dismissed ?

DJC these are the times when you keep defending and refuse to admit any wrong doing that you lose credibility to me as its obvious your comments are not coming from a balanced view of the situation. Majority of us have a political side we support but most can also call a spade a spade too.

Oh well we shall all see in the upcoming elections what the people think.
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The Sports Desk / Vale Makybe Diva
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Whilst not a sportsperson, Makybe Diva stands comfortably in the Australian pantheon of sporting legends. The Melbourne Cup treble in 03 04 05 as well as the MC / Cox Plate  double in 05 are feats which will remain unequaled for the rest of time in my option. Everyone will remember those races and the words "A champion becomes a legend" will be forever etched into the minds of sports lovers everywhere.
Rest easy big girl.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -
Quote from: DJC – on

Sorry Shawny but you’re not the public and I think you’ll find that the sensible centre has had a gutful of extremist claims, be they right or left.

As with the CFMEU $15-30Bn beat up, none of this stands up to scrutiny.  The Government, regardless of its persuasion, has to comply with the law. 

But let’s celebrate yet another right wing terrorist being arrested by the WA Joint Counter Terrorism Team before he could implement his deadly plan.  I suspect that these wannabe Nazis present a much greater threat than the ISIS brides and their children.  Where’s the outrage at these terrorists?
Never a truer word was spoken, kick the Nazis and the Sovcits out and Australia will probably be a better place, but keep them here under surveillance and they will go extinct!

They are the minority, they only have impact when the majority stays silent. Germany and Japan both learned that, now it's their national shame. The strongest opponents of the radicals come from within.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: shawny – on
The goverment prevented a professional tennis player entering the country because he wouldnt take a vaccine but cant find a way to prevent ISIS sympathises who left on their own accord back onto our shores as its un lawfull. really?

Our PM provided his usual lip service after the Bondi terror attack saying he would make any changes needed to keep us safe yet as usual when it comes to the crunch he lies diverts and fails to act.

Yet people are still surprised with one nations rapid support.

The public have had a gutful of the current party.

Sorry Shawny but you’re not the public and I think you’ll find that the sensible centre has had a gutful of extremist claims, be they right or left.

As with the CFMEU $15-30Bn beat up, none of this stands up to scrutiny.  The Government, regardless of its persuasion, has to comply with the law. 

But let’s celebrate yet another right wing terrorist being arrested by the WA Joint Counter Terrorism Team before he could implement his deadly plan.  I suspect that these wannabe Nazis present a much greater threat than the ISIS brides and their children.  Where’s the outrage at these terrorists?
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by shawny -
The goverment prevented a professional tennis player entering the country because he wouldnt take a vaccine but cant find a way to prevent ISIS sympathises who left on their own accord back onto our shores as its un lawfull. really?

Our PM provided his usual lip service after the Bondi terror attack saying he would make any changes needed to keep us safe yet as usual when it comes to the crunch he lies diverts and fails to act.

Yet people are still surprised with one nations rapid support.

The public have had a gutful of the current party.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: DJC – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Non Violent Offenders/Flight risk?....one from a neighbouring country has connections to a criminal bikie gang and the other main offender is an Indian National, Id view both as risks to leave the country...
The ISIS brides are extremists and a threat to the community imo and the Minister has the power to issue exclusion orders..
 Under section 17 return permits can be revoked "on the Minister's own initiative".
What this means practically is that Australian citizens could, technically, be banned from returning indefinitely which Is what should happen but Tony Burke has promised his Dr mate he will let them back in and wont act in the interests of the country
Paterson was on the money exposing the whole mess but unfortunately it seems NSW and Victoria will be having to re-house and pay for these Terrorist Brides to live amongst us...

So how do you get them to court without a Criminal Justice Visa?

These procedures have been in operation for many years under governments of both persuasions.  Do you expect the current government to ignore the law?

As for Ene, I’m pretty sure that a judge can’t refuse bail on the grounds that the accused’s brother is a bikie.  I’m also pretty sure that (a) Singh isn’t keen on returning to India and (b) the bail conditions will prevent him trying.

I don’t think there’s a one size fits all solution to the ISIS brides and their children.  A child married at 14 probably deserves different treatment to an adult who still supports ISIS.  But that doesn’t change the Australian government’s obligation to provide citizens with replacement passports. 

Furthermore, ASIO would be all over whether any of these women and children present a security threat.  I’m inclined to go with their assessment over Peta Credlin’s.


I don't follow Peta Credlin so I'll have to take your word on that,  ASIO investigated Bondi shooter Naveed Akram but concluded he wasn't a threat so I think we can disregard their assessments as gospel on terrorist threats, that's why they are having an internal review.
Minister Burke of course owes his Sydney GP buddy some payback after his electoral support ..but you knew that...
Sure you need a CJV to get detainees to court but you can still detain them in custody not release them into the community when they were already detainees...
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Name your team for Opening Round
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
We have won 2 of our last 20 games at the SCG vs Syd. Our last win there was when Jesus played CHB for Jerusalem (R17 2019).
This worries me more than anything else (and the fact that I am heading over to watch the game).

History is important, but it doesn’t determine who wins games of footy.  The amount of noise you can generate in support of the boys will be critical 🙂
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Non Violent Offenders/Flight risk?....one from a neighbouring country has connections to a criminal bikie gang and the other main offender is an Indian National, Id view both as risks to leave the country...
The ISIS brides are extremists and a threat to the community imo and the Minister has the power to issue exclusion orders..
 Under section 17 return permits can be revoked "on the Minister's own initiative".
What this means practically is that Australian citizens could, technically, be banned from returning indefinitely which Is what should happen but Tony Burke has promised his Dr mate he will let them back in and wont act in the interests of the country
Paterson was on the money exposing the whole mess but unfortunately it seems NSW and Victoria will be having to re-house and pay for these Terrorist Brides to live amongst us...

So how do you get them to court without a Criminal Justice Visa?

These procedures have been in operation for many years under governments of both persuasions.  Do you expect the current government to ignore the law?

As for Ene, I’m pretty sure that a judge can’t refuse bail on the grounds that the accused’s brother is a bikie.  I’m also pretty sure that (a) Singh isn’t keen on returning to India and (b) the bail conditions will prevent him trying.

I don’t think there’s a one size fits all solution to the ISIS brides and their children.  A child married at 14 probably deserves different treatment to an adult who still supports ISIS.  But that doesn’t change the Australian government’s obligation to provide citizens with replacement passports. 

Furthermore, ASIO would be all over whether any of these women and children present a security threat.  I’m inclined to go with their assessment over Peta Credlin’s.