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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by kruddler -
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Victoria's Crime Statistics Agency provides pretty comprehensive data that's easy to access:

https://www.crimestatistics.vic.gov.au/

Be interested to see what makes up those stats.
"The number of criminal incidents recorded by Victoria Police in the year to 31 March 2026 was 468,711, down 1.0% from 473,518 incidents recorded in the same period last year."

June 2025: 15,909 police officers (Total workforce: 21,332)
June 2024: 16,059 police officers (Total workforce: 21,715)
June 2023: 15,842 police officers (Total workforce: 21,326)

I found estimates of 15,600 police this year.

Those numbers are 'whats recorded'.
The number of police officers available to record these crimes are going the opposite way to the number of crimes.
I suspect that a large part of the 'drop in crime' is simply things are not being recorded.

I suspect if there was 0 police officers around to record things, crimes recorded would magically disappear too. ;)
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by crashlander -
I was 14 when I got bashed by some thugs after a [practice game at Princes Park. I hate to think what they would have done today, as similar thugs would be armed.
Mind you, it was the spark that made me learn karate. I got to brown with 2 black stripes (1 grading away from black in my style) before injury ruined that.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by Milhanna13 -
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Again, there are lots of good reasons for people to leave (weather being one)

Another couple of good reasons are trying to avoid the public transport crush and trying to avoid being out in public any later than necessary in crime-riddled Melbourne.

i was grateful for the early max-exodus,  as it made the trudge to richmond station a million times easier than last week....  smoothed the exit out over 45mins, rather than all at once.    not sure id seen brunton ave like it was last week, it was insane.  this week (after the final siren) was a bit more normal
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: The New Joke Thread
Last post by DJC -
Karl Marx was a world famous philospher, but nobody ever mentions his sister, Onya, the inventor of the starting pistol  ::)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by RiverRat -
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Mate I was sitting there in the rain in row G on level 1 for 75% of the game, and when we fell 50 points behind, that was my signal to go because me and the Mrs were getting wet, and whilst we all support the club, every single club has fans that leave early once the game is gone. 
Again, there are lots of good reasons for people to leave (weather being one)

Another couple of good reasons are trying to avoid the public transport crush and trying to avoid being out in public any later than necessary in crime-riddled Melbourne.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by RiverRat -
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The fact the government thought a buy back system of machettes was needed says it all.


Surely that's no evidence of anything but Governments responding to a perceived crisis?


That's not evidence of anything but a state government wasting more money in a scheme that was intended to suggest that it was doing something useful.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -
Coincidentally, I have just finished a long phone call with an author who is researching a book on violence in Coburg and surrounding suburbs during the 1960s-80s.  It's surprising when you realise how many schoolmates (and I use "mates" advisedly) came to violent ends.  The number of thugs who joined VicPol is also surprising.

We were genuinely scared of the cops back then; they'd beat the crap out of you just because they felt like it  ::)
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Baggers -
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A couple of months before my 15th birthday, my 23 year policeman brother and I were stabbed multiple times by a random 28 year old about 30 metres from our home in Coburg.

That was around the time of the Vic Market murders and the Ustaše terror attacks but before the likes of the Crevally Street Boys had us scared crapless.

But yeah, there was no violence back in the day.

Glad you and your brother got out of that situation with your lives, David.

Violence in Victoria today is just more reported on, and then pounced upon by opportunistic pollies and journalists with an agenda. And their answer: more punishment and incarceration. Sheesh, hasn't that worked well over the centuries.

One easy example of Victorian crime on the streets of Melbourne from the past... Razor gangs, and that was the 1920s! Numerous examples through the decades... and that's just the last century in Oz.

Disaffected and disenfranchised individuals have been around since time immemorial... and they congregate in gangs, then movements and so on.

Just a simple dive into human history and you'll find horrors on the streets and cities and towns over the centuries. And that's not to mention the prolific violence occurring in the family home, with so much not reported. The most dangerous creature in the animal kingdom is, humans.