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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Where will Carlton finish?
Last post by Gointocarlton -
For what its worth, my ladder is:
1   Gold Coast
2   Brisbane
3   GWS
4   Western Bulldogs
5   Sydney
6   Hawthorn
7   Adelaide
8   Collingwood
9   St Kilda
10   Geelong
11   Fremantle
12   Carlton
13   Port Adelaide
14   Essendon
15   Melbourne
16   North Melbourne
17   Richmond
18   West Coast
Id have Fremantle and Geelong in the eight with Collingwood and the WB's just missing...Pies are doing a midfield and forward line rebuild plus have a injury prone backline and the Dogs while having a talented list suffer with Beveridge trying to be over inventive.
12th will see us a with a new coach and rebuild too imho..
Apart from their defence which leaks alot, I rate the Bullies and if Darcy gets up ad going, look out.
Ditto Freo, midfield is scary good and probably warrants a spot as you say.
Gee-long will slide a little I reckon.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Where will Carlton finish?
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
For what its worth, my ladder is:
1   Gold Coast
2   Brisbane
3   GWS
4   Western Bulldogs
5   Sydney
6   Hawthorn
7   Adelaide
8   Collingwood
9   St Kilda
10   Geelong
11   Fremantle
12   Carlton
13   Port Adelaide
14   Essendon
15   Melbourne
16   North Melbourne
17   Richmond
18   West Coast
Id have Fremantle and Geelong in the eight with Collingwood and the WB's just missing...Pies are doing a midfield and forward line rebuild plus have a injury prone backline and the Dogs while having a talented list suffer with Beveridge trying to be over inventive.
12th will see us a with a new coach and rebuild too imho..
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Where will Carlton finish?
Last post by Lods -
With all the troubles we had last year....
We finished with 9 wins including a win over a grand finalist.

We had 8 other games where we finished within 4 goals of the opposition.

Richmond (loss by 13 points)
Hawthorn (20) and (24)
Western Bulldogs (8 )
Collingwood (17)
Sydney (16)
North (11)
Gold Coast (19)

In 5 of those games we led at half time.

Some of those losses were inexcusable...but some were against pretty good opposition.
It was a mediocre season, but there were reasons why the performance was so erratic.

There were probably only three or four games when we weren't really competitive for large parts of the game.

But a loss is a loss.

2026 gives us a fresh slate, and as Paul points out, there are number of areas where we need to be better than 2025
That's what we need to see.
Improve in some of those areas and the two to three goal results may turn in our favour.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Where will Carlton finish?
Last post by PaulP -
What I'm hoping to see this season :

-less injuries and more selection stability
-fixing delivery into F50
-seeing the kids and recent recruits establish themselves as regulars in the senior team.
-our B graders going to the next level. I'm not sure we can expect much more from our A graders. And I'd suggest that guys like Haynes and Hewett have also maxed out. If we can get some/most/all of the other B graders to perform like these two, the season will be very good.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Where will Carlton finish?
Last post by Lods -
...and despite what some might think, things like injuries , luck, the improvement of young players ...isn't the same for every side.
Variables like this make predicting a season with any confidence a pretty tricky exercise.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Where will Carlton finish?
Last post by Thryleon -
there are enough teams that are terrible that even at our worst we wont fall that far. 

West Coast will struggle to win games.  Melbourne will absolutely slide further.  Richmond arent getting good yet, and im pegging another club will slide perhaps on purpose this season, and it wouldn't shock me if it were Collingwood.

Last year we finished 11th with 7 teams below us
We lost to 3 of them - Port, Kangas and Tigers
We only just beat 2 more of them by 8 points - Bombers and Dees
St. Kilda was a 15 point win
West Coast was 34 points.

Of those 7, i expect 4 to improve, with just eagles, dees and bombers to stay crap or go backwards.

I'm not expected the 4 above us to get worse - Dogs, Suns, Hawks and Swans, which means you're hoping for a top 6 to go bottom 4, which is a big ask, more likely to be us than them.

BUT......this is why we play the season because we simply don't know.

I think you think our worst is a lot worse than i do.

Im not hoping on others, im simply looking at our potential.  We actually have a good bunch of players and havent gone back that far.  Sure, last season we didnt cover ourselves in glory, but we absolutely are better than that in my opinion.


Like you say though, this is where we need to play it out.  I went through an exercise reviewing the off seasons of pretty much every team and hardly anyone has actually improved their list.  Gws and gold coast did, but most others treaded water or went backwards on paper, but the sport isnt played on paper.