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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by Lods -....and what if the cupboard is so bare we don't have a choice BUT to play him?
It's not...Kemp can go back, Derksen can come in, Young can go forward and Ruck.
Which is what I'd do...
or
Straight swap.
Reidy in, HOK out.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by kruddler -Ah I see, we argued an out on a different definition of slavery to argue we never had slavery even though the evidence runs contrary to that.
So we can argue semantics, you are right, and I am wrong, we never participated in slavery despite the evidence showing otherwise. Is that it?
It's not semantics, it's fact. Australians have never owned other people,
Does the government count as 'Australians'?
They are in charge of prisons.
Are people in prison free?
Are people in prison forced into labour with repercussions if they do not?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by Lods -
Percentage is meaningless after three games.
A heavy loss or a big win can change percentage from a big positive to a big negative in one game.
Do you think Gold Coast will have a percentage of 191% at the end of the year?
Percentages won't settle as an indicator until well into the season.
No....its not meaningless. It very much has meaning and is displaying our form accurately.
Form is fleeting (we hope) and % can and will change throughout the year.
However, nobody in their right mind would say Gold Coast are struggling.
Nor would they say we are flying.
So again, certainly not meaningless.
No, it means nothing at this stage of the year.
And is definitely not comparable to previous years
Different rules
Different opposition
We win a couple of games by 40-50 points at this tme of the year and you shoot past the 100%
Do that at the end of the year with bigger point totals and it doesn't cause the same fluctuations.
Watch Gold Coast's percentage drop, even if they keep winning.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by DJC -Ah I see, we argued an out on a different definition of slavery to argue we never had slavery even though the evidence runs contrary to that.
So we can argue semantics, you are right, and I am wrong, we never participated in slavery despite the evidence showing otherwise. Is that it?
It's not semantics, it's fact. Australians have never owned other people,
Some of the old ladies I worked with early in my career were trained as domestic servants on the missions and were employed on pastoral stations - employed being the operative word. They were paid - not very much - and some of them were treated very badly - but they were paid and could leave if they wanted to.
I'm not arguing that Indigenous Australians and Melanesian indentured labourers weren't treated badly, far from it, but they weren't owned, bought and sold or considered to be property.
Modern slavery may take in slavery-like offences, such as forced labour, debt bondage and human trafficking, as I mentioned previously. However, Australia is still bound by the 1926 International Convention to Suppress the Slave Trade and Slavery and its definition of slavery.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by kruddler -
Chicken and egg.
Did he play the least amount of game time because he was no good?
Was he no good because he didn't get much game time?
Based on previous efforts, i'm going with the first one.
That leaves me with option 2....because we cant agree on anything at the moment
If it was because he was poor he won't be playing next week.
....and what if the cupboard is so bare we don't have a choice BUT to play him?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by Lods -HOK also had the least game time of any Carlton player on the weekend- 44%
Chicken and egg.
Did he play the least amount of game time because he was no good?
Was he no good because he didn't get much game time?
Based on previous efforts, i'm going with the first one.
That leaves me with option 2....because we cant agree on anything at the moment
If it was because he was poor he won't be playing next week.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by kruddler -HOK also had the least game time of any Carlton player on the weekend- 44%
Chicken and egg.
Did he play the least amount of game time because he was no good?
Was he no good because he didn't get much game time?
Based on previous efforts, i'm going with the first one.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by dodge -LP:
Agreed, social media confuses systemic slavery like the USA or UK, with criminal enslavement like prostitution / people smuggling. By the way I think the legal system terms what many on social media call slavery as subjugation.
No, that isn't social media. It is a definition. Easy to look up - the link I posted (Australian Gov. What is Modern Slavery) had this in it:
Modern slavery can take many forms. These include:
human trafficking
slavery
slavery-like practices:
forced labour
forced marriage
servitude
debt bondage
deceptive recruiting.
Modern slavery also includes the worst forms of child labour.
It happens in every country, including Australia.
If you want more, read the Modern Slavery Act 2018 - dunno if it's definition of slavery would be right...
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by kruddler -
I was going to say the same thing as EB.
I think EBs point is that the judgement before a ball was kicked in anger was premature expectations.
After 3 games last year our % was 83.3%
After 3 games this year our % is 72.9%......and we were luckily enough to hold on and win one of them.
Based on form.....i'm taking last year.
Percentage is meaningless after three games.
A heavy loss or a big win can change percentage from a big positive to a big negative in one game.
Do you think Gold Coast will have a percentage of 191% at the end of the year?
Percentages won't settle as an indicator until well into the season.
No....its not meaningless. It very much has meaning and is displaying our form accurately.
Form is fleeting (we hope) and % can and will change throughout the year.
However, nobody in their right mind would say Gold Coast are struggling.
Nor would they say we are flying.
So again, certainly not meaningless.