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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pick our team in parts - Part 4 - 5 on the bench
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: madbluboy – on
You said we are only judging on 2025.

I said the debate centred around whether we would improve stay the same or go backwards in 2026 compared to 2025.
And on that basis you can only judge on what was on display in 2025
Florent didn't have a great year compared to his previous year.
I don't think I've mentioned him much.
Defence wasn't really a concern...our issues stemmed more around entry to the 50 the ability to keep it there, and forward efficiency.

Anyway, we'll see how Ollie goes this year.

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/1941089/micd-up-ollie-florent-at-training?videoId=1941089&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1765440286001

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pick our team in parts - Part 4 - 5 on the bench
Last post by Lods -
See that's emotive nonsense that 'it's dud, out stars in'

No one ever said all players going out were duds
We lost some valuable players.
Even at their reduced output and injury most were best 23 and even Durdin and Elijah (who we still haven't lost for sure) were right up there.

No one ever said all players coming in never played a bad game.
Florent didn't have great year and he seemed to be out of favour...but he did have his best year in 2024 and has proven to be pretty durable.
All our new players have their limitations...and I suspect some strengths we haven't even considered yet.
Chesser is one that may surprise.

Tom, Jack and Charlie for various reasons all had their minds elsewhere during this year.
I have a greater appreciation for Jack's struggles given recent revelations.
When he did play he still gave 100%
Tom was made an offer he really 'couldn't refuse' to consider.
And who knows what was going on with Charlie.

What we're after and need is depth, versatility, role players and a committed group working together.
Time will tell how that plays out.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pick our team in parts - Part 4 - 5 on the bench
Last post by madbluboy -
Quote from: kruddler – on
I just said similar in another thread.
All outgoing players are now no good.
All incoming players have never played a bad game or missed a game through injury.
Its hypocrisy.

Take them all at 'average' levels and go from there.
You'll come up with the same conclusion if you are honest.

We're only to judge Charlie on this year but not Florent.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pick our team in parts - Part 4 - 5 on the bench
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: kruddler – on
I just said similar in another thread.
All outgoing players are now no good.
All incoming players have never played a bad game or missed a game through injury.
Its hypocrisy.

Take them all at 'average' levels and go from there.
You'll come up with the same conclusion if you are honest.
How can you measure a players Average output?

I.e.  Hayward?  His formline stacks up over 3 years.  Florent was sidelined by his coach, not his ability.  So not sure its fair to do that with him, and Ainsworth had a solid year. 

We are saying all these guys have to do is back up 2025 form, vs the outgoings 2025 form.  Thats 11 games without being subbed off injured for JSOS.

Charlie went bog average by key forward standards.  18 games for 32 goals.  1.8 goals a game.  Sure he kicked 27 behinds, but we wont miss those.  All we need is Kemp to chime in for 18 games and kick 30.  That will cover Charlie.  Hayward and Ainsworth might make up the rest, if Kemp falls short, and Skull is a wildcard here.  Played 5 games, kicked 3 goals.

TDK the ruckman is more of a unicorn than not.  Thing is, you yourself @kruddler  have stated that Pittonet shades him.  So if Pittonet Shades him, TDK's 2025 was a mixed bag, where he was generally good for half the season and then came back to the field.  Rucks are easier to cover, you just need a competitor.  I.e.  Is Cameron a better ruck than Grundy?  Probably not.  Cameron has played better footy than Grundy more often.  Collingwood didnt miss him.  Maybe we will have Pittonet finally have a consistent run.

JSOS.  I love the guy.  Is a competitor, hates being beaten.  Thing is, he played 13 games, and missed 2024 completely.  He was also not present for most of our best footy in 2023, and hasnt even played a final yet for us.  Are we really going to pine about that now? 

It reeks of agenda.  What happened to being measured?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by Thryleon -
For mine Kemp is the wildcard addition.  Played 5 games in 2025.  If he can get anywhere near 15 games and 30 goals, we are well on our way to covering the absence of Charlie's 2025.  Only need to have Hayward and Ainsworth chime in to cover the rest and goal output could very well improve.  Ditto Skull who only played a handful of games and kicked 1 or 2 goals. 

TDK isnt coverable as a like for like, but as Kruddler has written, his output is shaded by Pittonet.  So a servicable ruck backfilled is all we need to break even there.

JSOS.  11 games played without going off early (and thats not including Geelong where he ended up with a hand injury.

We played as much good footy without him as we did with him.

See, this isnt a like for like comparison coverage, but an example of the outgoing of 2025 has star quality, but not necessarily star output in our 2025.  So to finish near the wildcard spots, we just need a little improvement on 2025 and ill point out, that form across the board was very patchy.



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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread
Last post by laj -
Reckon their rest Boland for the Boxing Day Test and play Neser.

Cummins in for Boland, Lyon in for Doggett, and have Webster in for Inglis. After McSweeney's unbeaten double hundred for Australia A, on top of recent good form, I thought he may have made the squad.

Loved to have played Richardson but I don't think playing 2 fast bowlers lacking match practice is a great idea, despite Richardson ripping through England A on day  1.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by LP -
For all the things people worry about regarding the internet and AI, this stuff being done in the USA is far more worrisome, it's literally the genesis of the grey goo as they are already working on self-assembling versions.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/scirobotics.adu8009

This stuff will make Drone, Nuclear or Chemical Warfare look like a Sunday Picnic.

For all the good it could potentially do, think about your pepper grinder, sauce on your McBurger, herbs on your focaccia, dust on your carpet, dirt on your shoes, and now think of it in the hands of a Putin, Xi or RedTrump, a failed heart valve, a stroke, pneumonia, blindness, a headache.

Winds farms, 5G, EM, Infrasound, they are a freaking walk in the park by comparison!

What would this guy think, gravy for the mind?

Is your arm itching?
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Ladies Lounge / Re: AFLW List Management 2026
Last post by crashlander -
After trad week our situation lies like this:

Ins:
[1]   Brooke Boileau
170 cm   28/01/2005      Originally from South Adelaide
Traded from Adelaide, Brooke is a young inside-mid who really broke out this season.

[2]   Lauen Bella
188 cm   12/09/2000      Originally from Sarina (near Mackay)
Traded from Gold Coast where she was one of the competition’s premier rucks. Will bolster our talls leading into the future.

[3]   Claudia Whitfort:
171 cm   31/07/1999      Originally from Casey Demons
Traded from Gold Coast, Whitfort is an excellent athletic defender. We are her 4th AFLW club! Not bad for someone as young as she is.

Outs:
 We traded out 3 players, had one retire and did not renew the contracts on two players who replaced the 3rd. Sounds messy, but we’ve actually only got 2 free list spots at the moment. There may well be further changes, as we have our 1st, 2nd and 3rd round selections for this draft.
On the other hand, we don’t appear to think much of next year’s crop, as we have basically traded out of it.

[1]   Kerryn Peterson
Our former Captain, it was a big call not to renew her contract. Not sure what her plans are at this point, but she remains one of the clubs Physios.

[2]   Eliza Wood
The injury replacement player for Kez, she did an ACL and never got on the field. She was our VFLW Captain, so I’m not sure what is going to happen there, but she may miss the next season if her knee is slow in responding.

[3]   Charlotte Brewer
The injury replacement player who replaced the injury replacement player, Charlotte didn’t get a game this year and was delisted. She’s since been recruited to Collingwood.

[4]   Tarni Brown
The former Collingwood F/D who was good when she came over to us. She has some ‘off-field issues’ which have led to her retirement.

[5]   Mia Austin
Even though she played her best season so far, Mia left to go to Melbourne for more opportunities.

[6]   Keeley Skepper
Keeley had a poor year by her standards. Considering that we swapped with West Coast for next to nothing, neither teams seems to think she has much of a future. A pity, as she was really good only a couple of seasons back.

[7]   Maddison Torpey
Maddy left seeking more opportunities at North. She felt that she was our #4 ruck now.