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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Election 2025 (Poll added)
Last post by DJC -
The latest election shenanigans:

Neo-nazis wearing crude Hasidic Jew costumes turned up at pre-polling station in Kew and handed out pamphlets with a manipulated Liberal Party logo and anti-Semitic messages.  The pamphlets were also widely distributed to homes across Caulfield.  Election billboards for both Labor and Liberal candidates were defaced with red Stars of David.  The pamphlets are authorised by Joel Davis, a prominent neo-nazi who incited violence against Jewish people from the steps of Victoria’s Parliament House and who is out on bail in South Australia for displaying a Nazi symbol. 

While it is unlikely that the pamphlets and pre-polling station antics will have any bearing on the election, State Liberal MP David Southwick is spot on with his statement; “Let me be crystal clear: this is not politics. This is hate. And it has no place in our community.”

In other news, on Tuesday, witnesses reported a man in a Collingwood jumper lobbing an estimated half-dozen eggs at the One Nation candidate and his supporters as they handed out how-to-vote cards at the Wills pre-polling station in Brunswick.  Sitting Labor member for Wills, Peter Khalil, has had his posters defaced with "Zio Dog", "Fully Cooked" and other slogans.  Activists are unhappy with Khalil for what they say is his lack of action on climate change and the conflict in Gaza.  Khalil could lose his seat to the Greens and, in this case, the vandalism and pre-polling station tensions could impact the outcome.

Finally, activists have gone to a lot of trouble to vandalise a Clive Palmer billboard in Brunswick.  It now reads "Vote 0 Rump Riot”, with cartoon buttocks pasted over Palmer’s face, and "nonsense solutions to reduce the living."

All of these incidents are corroborated by several sources and backed up by photographs and video.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by DJC -
An interesting observation from the bench cam footage.

Charlie had moved himself into defence late in the last quarter.  Carroll was on the bench and Greaves instructed him to go back on, tell Charlie to go back to the forward line, and ensure that all seven defenders were in defence. 

While Charlie’s ability to go back and pluck a mark in defence has been game saving, our priority was to have the seven defenders working together as a unit and as they have been drilled.

It’s interesting that Aaron Greaves is the bench coach now. 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Voting 2025 AFL Rd 7 Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by LP -
Not much love for Elijah Hollands in these votes......
He does a lot of the sacrificial stuff that brings those around him into the game, he compliments Cripps and Walsh magnificently because he has the speed and strength to play a disposal beyond the stoppage and not be beaten in the contest. Good user, makes great decisions.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2025 Pre Game Carlton v Adelaide in Adelaide
Last post by tonyo -
Rankine plays more midfield and Saad wont play there. Keays dines out on us, pencil him in for 4 goals now irrespective of who plays on him. Thilthorpe is there best and biggest fwd hence Weiters. They were saying on Fox Gov seems to do better agains the taller quicker more mobile fwds, dont know whether you'd call Fogarty to Walker quick and mobile.
I 100% trust Haynes (now) to do a defensive job on either. Young is too flaky to play on Thilthorpe IMO.

Thilthorpe has a hand injury which might negate his marking and help a player like Young who has the height to match him.
First marking contest, the spoiler should be aiming directly for that finger.....
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Election 2025 (Poll added)
Last post by Thryleon -
@DJC  its not about giving up, its about seeing all this crap for what it is.

That is, its designed to ellicit a response.  In this day and age, with no footage, and some flaky online articles, not susbstantiated on TV is all you need to consider.

IF you want me to believe it all, I will, but it matters nought what I believe.  The MAGA hat is perhaps the single most useless bit of information out of all this stuff.

Make America Great Again has nothing to do with us, and is as tenuous a link to what happens if you vote red (or in our case blue) as it gets.

You can choose to ignore what’s before your eyes or put any spin on factual reporting if that suits your agenda. 

It is a fact that a 79 year old man wearing a MAGA hat was punched out by a 17 year old boy  after the older fellow knocked over ALP signs at a pre-polling station.  It is also a fact that the 79 year old was hospitalised and the 17 year old is in custody and will appear in the Children’s Court.

A friend of mine has a MAGA and wears it when he wants to take the p1ss.  The 79 year old may have been taking the p1ss too but the fact that he was kicking ALP signs over suggests otherwise.

It’s interesting that you’re focusing on the MAGA hat.  I would have thought that the actions of the 17 year old are more significant.

Similarly, the actions of the Monique Ryan supporter who threw a punch at the right wing protesters are more significant than the protests.

But, yes, it’s all propaganda cooked up by a bunch of conspirators from most of the political parties, independents, so-called eye witnesses, police, the AEC, hospital staff, and the media, both mainstream and social media influencers and podcasters. 
sorry I misread the article.  I thought the kid was the one damaging coreflute and wearing the maga hat based on dodgy reading.

Not really sure what to make of it.  What's the 17 year old worrying about punching an old man for?

My own focus was largely on the other incident Paul was talking about but this is where this stuff becomes flaky for mine.

As for the kid being in custody and an expedited hearing my care factor is low.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2025 Pre Game Carlton v Adelaide in Adelaide
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -

I think Young might play....don't trust Haynes either on any of those physical type forwards.Walker would get my best defender. Saad on Keays from memory hasn't worked out too well either...prefer Saad on Rankine
I'd be hoping our mids dominate and supply is minimal to the Crows forward line.
Rankine plays more midfield and Saad wont play there. Keays dines out on us, pencil him in for 4 goals now irrespective of who plays on him. Thilthorpe is there best and biggest fwd hence Weiters. They were saying on Fox Gov seems to do better agains the taller quicker more mobile fwds, dont know whether you'd call Fogarty to Walker quick and mobile.
I 100% trust Haynes (now) to do a defensive job on either. Young is too flaky to play on Thilthorpe IMO.
Not sold on Haynes as a defender or his kicking, prefer Weitering on Walker.
Thilthorpe has a hand injury which might negate his marking and help a player like Young who has the height to match him.
Fogarty will be an interesting watch given his shoulder will be sore still and I'd be testing it out.
Going to miss Jack and the Crows are a more difficult matchup for us than most teams and I think this game will be tougher than the Cats and a win will be a convincing sign we are a serious finals contender.