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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 12 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
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Blokes like Cinc and Lord just go out and do exactly what is asked of them for the good of the team. A coach cannot ask for more than that.
Really enjoy watching the constant effort of both of these guys.

Good for Binns to be in the coaches votes.

Someone said earlier we are hell boring to watch - absolutely totally agree.  It seems surreal after years of being on Friday nights and being howled down, that we turned it around and became an exciting team to watch! Thank god we’re not on Friday nights much anymore 🥱
Good Carlton teams have always been exciting to watch and played innovative football, we have shown we can play modern footy for a quarter or two this season with players like Saad, Ollie Hollands and Lord providing run and carry and lacing some passes to our forwards but then we default to this horrible slow  Soviet cold war brand as I like to call it which invites errors and the opposition to take us on more and we become paralysed and stop to a walk. Its a consistent theme nearly every game and its so bad a lot of fans switch off and wont watch because you know where its heading if we are playing anyone decent.
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
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I think Marnus has been unfairly blamed, Khawaja is years past his best and it looks like they're going to have to pry him out with a crowbar.  Green is over rated - way over rated and needs a kick up the ar$e.  Head bats like it's the world cup and has to start giving a F about test batting.

Hazelwood didn't do enough to justify being selected over Boland either.

Konstas has done very little to justify selection, yet another NSW-centric selection.

The one who really has no clue is Bailey, constantly goes conservative and picks the same old names.  Has faith in the same hacks for too long and needs to look at players from outside NSW. Time to go George.
Couldnt agree more....though I think Marnus has been worked out if you keep it tight around off stump and just outside eventually he will spar at one and edge to the keeper/slips. Seems to have lost that ability to work the ball for a single and get off strike vs the class quicks who get him on the back foot defending and the pressure gets to him.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 12 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast
Last post by Micky0 -
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Shows how much we've missed Cincotta, just seems to be one of the types who finds himself in the right place at the right moment.
Blokes like Cinc and Lord just go out and do exactly what is asked of them for the good of the team. A coach cannot ask for more than that.
Really enjoy watching the constant effort of both of these guys.

Good for Binns to be in the coaches votes.

Someone said earlier we are hell boring to watch - absolutely totally agree.  It seems surreal after years of being on Friday nights and being howled down, that we turned it around and became an exciting team to watch! Thank god we’re not on Friday nights much anymore 🥱
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread
Last post by LP -
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Head bats like it's the world cup and has to start giving a F about test batting.
I don't mind Head batting that way, he is the current version of Doug Walters and it works, bit only as part of a balanced in form list.

I don't think we can have Head and Konstas in the same team, for Head to do his stuff you need a rock solid base to build off, and Konstas is a similarly a 50/50 type at best, maybe 30/70, I've never been a fan of openers who are continually all in. Hayden was similarly attacking but off a solid base, with Langer as some Yang, the balance pays off.

I bet they blame Carey and bring in Inglis, while Labuschagne, Green and others retain their spot. But in reality Carey should stay with Inglis and some of the duds should be getting the chop.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 12 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast
Last post by kruddler -
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I understand the need to experiment.
I'm all for going full bore on experimentation once our season is out of reach.
Play kids, or fringe players who may be on one last chance.
Play around with structure
Try players in different positions.
I'm not sure in a senior match where you are still a finals chance though is the best time or place.

If it was in fact a deliberate move...
We didn't gain much from changing things up, if anything...
-For a start the side we put on the field (and ended up on the field) is probably well short of our best 22 so any learning opportunity only applies to those playing>
-we lost an opportunity to improve on our percentage.
-we may have re-inforced doubts amongst our players about our ability to play out a game.
(that's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy...if they doubt... when one or two things go wrong it can get into their heads. Maybe that's what is happening already
-it didn't work, and a team labelled as pathetic by their coach at quarter time is suddenly competitive.
-it may work against a West Coast. Try it against a Collingwood and they'll run all over us. Different opposition-different tactics.

Not sure how much we changed and if it was planned or if it was something we did because of injuries.
However, there COULD be a need to 'experiment' a little bit.
If nothing else, you try this stuff against a hack team so that you have it nailed by the time you need it for a good team. Not sure how often we've tried it, but if its something we've been attempting all year, with the amount we've been overrun, it clearly needs more training.

At the end of the day, we won the game.
At the end of the day, our percentage is not something we need to worry about.

Hopefully we learned something and it helps us in the future.