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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Under 23 players
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: LP – on
Moir has an upside, and obvious AFL level tricks, we shouldn't be burdening him with too many negatives so early in his career.

This time next year would be the time to be more critical.

The U23 category is interesting, because it basically sits on the boundary of who will and who won't.

At 21 it's too early to write many players off, and by the time players are 25 you know if they are going to make it or not. I realise there will be some claim they told us so, "they knew" back when a player was 18 or 20, but that news always arrives retrospectively.

It’s better to set lower expectations than to anoint a youngster as the next Kouta or whoever.

Moir clearly has the skills and physical attributes to play AFL.  Just how well remains to be seen … and I’d like to be pleasantly surprised 🙂

List managers spend a lot of time assessing youngsters and they get it right most of the time now.  Of course, there will be those youngsters that slip through the net - both ways - and those that avoid the net altogether, like Alex Cincotta.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Under 23 players
Last post by tonyo -
Quote from: Sexybronco – on
Quote from: shawny – on
Moir reminds me very much of Troy Menzel.

Their cameos look great but like many players of this mould they struggle to add more strings to their bow and can be a bit pigeon holed - maybe they just don't work as hard as they should as their glimpses of brilliance gets them brownie points other less flashy players are not afforded 

As a fan i get very excited with these sorts but have been disappointed more times as only a few go on to play long careers.

Time will tell.
I fear you’re right but obviously hope he can develop into a solid contributor.
Moir reminds me a lot of Izak Rankine - if he can develop an engine, and rotate through the mids occasionally, he will become far more dangerous.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by LP -
Quote from: DJC – on
Divided?  One audience was around 3% of the other!
Are you confusing this with a RedTrump rally?

I've a business associate in Chicago, he tells me that region is generally a red state but even so it has started to call out the sh1zen and grow tired of the rhetoric. At a recent RedTrump rally the organisers packed almost everybody in the venue into the stage behind him and he spoke to camera with a mostly empty auditorium behind them. You can apparently tell which events this happens because RedTrump can't stop himself from involuntarily trying to turn around and face the live audience behind him, he apparently looks quite awkward speaking at funny head twisted angles. GOP blamed the weather.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Under 23 players
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Quote from: LP – on
Moir has an upside, and obvious AFL level tricks, we shouldn't be burdening him with too many negatives so early in his career.

This time next year would be the time to be more critical.

The U23 category is interesting, because it basically sits on the boundary of who will and who won't.

At 21 it's too early to write many players off, and by the time players are 25 you know if they are going to make it or not. I realise there will be some claim they told us so, "they knew" back when a player was 18 or 20, but that news always arrives retrospectively.

Agreed. It's why I don't understand Binns' delisting.

Someone has to get the chop somewhere. 

Once you start having an abundance of players for any one role, and an abundance that can cover them in absence, they need to be a needle mover/difference maker to persist with.  Binns was neither, but had some decent attributes, without being an outstanding player. 

The fact he hasnt made himself back onto an AFL list is probably the tell that everyone had a similar opinion of him.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Under 23 players
Last post by madbluboy -
Quote from: LP – on
Moir has an upside, and obvious AFL level tricks, we shouldn't be burdening him with too many negatives so early in his career.

This time next year would be the time to be more critical.

The U23 category is interesting, because it basically sits on the boundary of who will and who won't.

At 21 it's too early to write many players off, and by the time players are 25 you know if they are going to make it or not. I realise there will be some claim they told us so, "they knew" back when a player was 18 or 20, but that news always arrives retrospectively.

Agreed. It's why I don't understand Binns' delisting.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Under 23 players
Last post by LP -
Moir has an upside, and obvious AFL level tricks, we shouldn't be burdening him with too many negatives so early in his career.

This time next year would be the time to be more critical.

The U23 category is interesting, because it basically sits on the boundary of who will and who won't.

At 21 it's too early to write many players off, and by the time players are 25 you know if they are going to make it or not. I realise there will be some claim they told us so, "they knew" back when a player was 18 or 20, but that news always arrives retrospectively.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Under 23 players
Last post by Sexybronco -
Quote from: shawny – on
Moir reminds me very much of Troy Menzel.

Their cameos look great but like many players of this mould they struggle to add more strings to their bow and can be a bit pigeon holed - maybe they just don't work as hard as they should as their glimpses of brilliance gets them brownie points other less flashy players are not afforded  

As a fan i get very excited with these sorts but have been disappointed more times as only a few go on to play long careers.

Time will tell.
I fear you’re right but obviously hope he can develop into a solid contributor.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Under 23 players
Last post by shawny -
Moir reminds me very much of Troy Menzel.

Their cameos look great but like many players of this mould they struggle to add more strings to their bow and can be a bit pigeon holed - maybe they just don't work as hard as they should as their glimpses of brilliance gets them brownie points other less flashy players are not afforded  

As a fan i get very excited with these sorts but have been disappointed more times as only a few go on to play long careers.

Time will tell.