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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -
You can see how easy it is for the lunatics to cross the line beyond reason, they incapable of separating emotion from fantasy.

But the problem isn't resolved by normal politics or public discussion, because much of what is rally against is fantasy, and the ultimate driver is rooted in the professional media. Sycophants like the Karl, Kyle and Joe who beat a drum for obscene profit. Then you get the absurdity of social media, which will often attack those who call out the sycophants by labelling the critics "Jones pedo sympathisers", incapable of seeing that the problem exists in the extremities.

That is a little window into the mind of the nutter. Perceiving a world which to them appears that 'everyone else' is an extremist, a Andrew Tait or an Alan Jones, with someone like themself and Kyle Sandilands in the middle ground! :o

The fix is to hold the media and social media giants to account, make them responsible for the riots they incite, make them pay fines in billion$ not just million$, much as some regions have already started doing with the likes of Apple and Microsoft. The only language they understand is cash.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Lods -
Folks are free to vote for who they like.
And naturally we gravitate towards those parties that reflect our own views and values.

I suspect the big issue facing Victoria once the election is over will be stability.
If no party has an absolute majority they are going to need the support of a secondary or minor party to govern. The combinations available probably suggest there is little chanc of that being a stable or sustainable relationship.

One of the problems One Nation faces, and we saw it in the SA election, is that their support probably wont be even across the board. They'll be strong in some areas but poor in others, and that won't necessarily translate to a lot of seats...but it might, as their support is fluid and their influence increases with the current impotence of the LNP.

A One Nation-LNP coalition wouldn't last as long as a snowball in hell and any relationship is likely to be one decided on individual pieces of legislation.

You would probably be back at the polls next year.

Then there's the loose cannon that is One Nation's leader. Who will probably want to have some influence in Victoria.

You can see Barnaby Joyce, (who's  bit of a loose cannon himself, but a little more politically aware) standing beside Pauline and it's almost like he's thinking to himself..."Please don't say anything stupid that I'm going to have to go out and explain or defend."

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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Micky0 -
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: DJC – on
Independent MP Helen Haines was attacked outside her Wangaratta electorate office this afternoon.  A white 4WD did a u-turn before pinning Ms Haines against the boot of her car.  Bystanders intervened and detained the 43 year old driver of the 4WD who was apparently armed with a knife and was subsequently arrested by police. 

By all accounts, Ms Haines is a serious, decent and grounded regional MP who is genuinely admired both within and beyond her electorate and by people who wouldn't normally vote for independents.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has confirmed that counter-terrorism police are investigating the attack.

Information is still sketchy at this stage but, if the reports are accurate, it is an appalling act by a person who doesn't deserve to live in our country.

As is the usual case we need to wait for the details behind this...
Some will guess at motives, which really helps no-one at this point.
The fact that counter-terrorism police are involved probably increases speculation.

Hopefully Ms Haines recovers well, but there seemed to be a real seriousness in the tone of Albanese when he was talking about it, that suggests she's not in a good way.
I had a work colleague caught between his boot and a car crashing into the rear of his car...the 'crush' injuries were severe.
Latest is she is in a very grave situation and will likely lose both legs, at the very least.

I cannot imagine why she might be politically targetted, shes an independent with a background in nursing ffs!

As for that dire piece of excrement Poorline, its better I say nothing at all 🤐
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -
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There's already too many of these Hanson types on the world stage, and they are taking an already struggling, teetering planet and making it worse. The track records of Orban, Milei, Erdoğan, Trump and others are appalling.

But I have been given assurances that if elected, she will close all borders and deport many brown people, which will see crime rates plummet to basically zero.

The problem is that, regardless of the flavour of government, the rich get richer and ordinary folk slip further behind. They are ripe for the picking by populist politicians with slogans rather than policies.  Ignorance and xenophobia don’t help 🙁
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by PaulP -
There's already too many of these Hanson types on the world stage, and they are taking an already struggling, teetering planet and making it worse. The track records of Orban, Milei, Erdoğan, Trump and others are appalling.

But I have been given assurances that if elected, she will close all borders and deport many brown people, which will see crime rates plummet to basically zero.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -
I’m sure that there have been politicians lower than Pauline “workers are lazy” Hanson but I can’t think of any.  Her disgraceful mocking of Jacqui Lambie’s condition and, by extension, women’s health generally, is lower than sharksh1t.

Lambie might be a loose cannon but she’s a veteran who served her country.  All Hanson has done is spend 30 years getting paid for hardly ever turning up for work.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: DJC – on
Independent MP Helen Haines was attacked outside her Wangaratta electorate office this afternoon.  A white 4WD did a u-turn before pinning Ms Haines against the boot of her car.  Bystanders intervened and detained the 43 year old driver of the 4WD who was apparently armed with a knife and was subsequently arrested by police. 

By all accounts, Ms Haines is a serious, decent and grounded regional MP who is genuinely admired both within and beyond her electorate and by people who wouldn't normally vote for independents.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has confirmed that counter-terrorism police are investigating the attack.

Information is still sketchy at this stage but, if the reports are accurate, it is an appalling act by a person who doesn't deserve to live in our country.

As is the usual case we need to wait for the details behind this...
Some will guess at motives, which really helps no-one at this point.
The fact that counter-terrorism police are involved probably increases speculation.

Hopefully Ms Haines recovers well, but there seemed to be a real seriousness in the tone of Albanese when he was talking about it, that suggests she's not in a good way.
I had a work colleague caught between his boot and a car crashing into the rear of his car...the 'crush' injuries were severe.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Baggers -
Quote from: shawny – on
Quote from: Baggers – on


You're a funny one, MBB. Though it is important for malcontents to have their representatives. Better to have them in full view and out in the open ;)  ;D

Baggers her popularity has skyrocketed on the back of people being sick and tired of the inept current mob that have ran us to the ground.

Like her or despise her she doesn't back down and is not afraid of the backlash on tough policies that benefit all Australians even if she is labelled a racist.

Her policies on tough border control has been a major positive and a hell of a lot on non pauline likers have gotten on board. People are afraid, afraid of the crime and the state of whats happening in other Christian countries where Mass immigration was allowed is only supporting her push in popularity. 

Then you have the state of our health system, the roads, essential services, serious crime and the cost of living - none are where they should be and the current debt levels will soon have to be subsidized federally as the hole old mate and his pals left is bigger then any can get out of without help. 

Change must come.    

Geez i miss EB posts on this sort of stuff - i really do :(


Uniting people, using anger and fear, is a recipe for disaster.

If you're looking for leaders, real leaders, you won't find them in politics.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -
Independent MP Helen Haines was attacked outside her Wangaratta electorate office this afternoon.  A white 4WD did a u-turn before pinning Ms Haines against the boot of her car.  Bystanders intervened and detained the 43 year old driver of the 4WD who was apparently armed with a knife and was subsequently arrested by police. 

By all accounts, Ms Haines is a serious, decent and grounded regional MP who is genuinely admired both within and beyond her electorate and by people who wouldn't normally vote for independents.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has confirmed that counter-terrorism police are investigating the attack.

Information is still sketchy at this stage but, if the reports are accurate, it is an appalling act by a person who doesn't deserve to live in our country.