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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Under 23 players
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Define 'running'.

As DJC just stated, Cottrell and Hollands are elite runners, and have been for years now. Maybe Binns' beat them in a race here or there, but at best he was on a par with them in that area (i disagree) but was behind in every other area IMO, hence the delisting.

Moving quickly on foot? 😇

Binns got a contract extension on the back of excellent VFL form … and I’ve defended that decision in the past.  Tearing that contract up was a major u-turn and I’d love to know what the thinking behind it was.

Perhaps the bake from Vossy in his 8th and final game is the key - although Binnsy reckons his delisting was unexpected.


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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Under 23 players
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: kruddler – on
Too many similar types and he didn't have any tricks, disposal was average.

O. Hollands, L. Camporeale....even Cottrell play the same role and better.
Certainly, competing for the same roles, but Binns' running was well above the others.

Although I think his physicality was well below those he competed with, and that might not be acceptable for a coach with Voss' history!

Anyway, it's just another speculation, I think the real question is not why he was delisted, but why he wasn't picked up because his running is elite at any level.

Define 'running'.

As DJC just stated, Cottrell and Hollands are elite runners, and have been for years now. Maybe Binns' beat them in a race here or there, but at best he was on a par with them in that area (i disagree) but was behind in every other area IMO, hence the delisting.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: LP – on
I don't get why the MAGA media post this stuff and think it's a positive for RedTrump, or how anybody can read it and think he some sort of righteous clarion.
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The Miami Herald’s Julie K. Brown, probably the foremost reporter on the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, has revealed what Donald Trump told police all the way back in July of 2006, back when the first charges of sexual misconduct against Epstein became public knowledge.

Mr Trump told Palm Beach police commissioner Michael Reiter “everyone has known” about Epstein’s activities. He also called Epstein’s co-conspirator, Ghislaine Maxwell, “evil” and advised law enforcement to “focus on her”. He described her as Epstein’s “operative”.
I read that paragraph and think, this heavily resourced and connected Kent new what was going or in a global paedophile ring back in 2006 and chose to do feck all about it!

I suspect that he was terrified that Epstein would spill the beans ... and still is, albeit posthumously.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Under 23 players
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: LP – on
Certainly, competing for the same roles, but Binns' running was well above the others.

Although I think his physicality was well below those he competed with, and that might not be acceptable for a coach with Voss' history!

Anyway, it's just another speculation, I think the real question is not why he was delisted, but why he wasn't picked up because his running is elite at any level.

Cottrell and Hollands, O are elite runners, they make better use of the pill when they get it, and they play better defence. 

I believe that Binnsy will be playing for Berwick in 2026 but he's also on Essendon's VFL list.  I think that supports our decision to tear up his contract.
 
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by LP -
I don't get why the MAGA media post this stuff and think it's a positive for RedTrump, or how anybody can read it and think he some sort of righteous clarion.
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The Miami Herald’s Julie K. Brown, probably the foremost reporter on the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, has revealed what Donald Trump told police all the way back in July of 2006, back when the first charges of sexual misconduct against Epstein became public knowledge.

Mr Trump told Palm Beach police commissioner Michael Reiter “everyone has known” about Epstein’s activities. He also called Epstein’s co-conspirator, Ghislaine Maxwell, “evil” and advised law enforcement to “focus on her”. He described her as Epstein’s “operative”.
I read that paragraph and think, this heavily resourced and connected Kent new what was going or in a global paedophile ring back in 2006 and chose to do feck all about it!
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: LP – on
Are you saying Bad Bunny should call for RedTrump to be deported as an invader, but then again weren't the Conquistadors invaders also? ;D

Taco's America's problem and it would be grossly unfair to impose him on any other country  :)

I was referencing the hypocrisy of Turning Back and their "All American" lip syncing show.  Bad Bunny is more "American" than any of the folk who "performed" there  ::)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Under 23 players
Last post by LP -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Too many similar types and he didn't have any tricks, disposal was average.

O. Hollands, L. Camporeale....even Cottrell play the same role and better.
Certainly, competing for the same roles, but Binns' running was well above the others.

Although I think his physicality was well below those he competed with, and that might not be acceptable for a coach with Voss' history!

Anyway, it's just another speculation, I think the real question is not why he was delisted, but why he wasn't picked up because his running is elite at any level.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Under 23 players
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Too many similar types and he didn't have any tricks, disposal was average.

O. Hollands, L. Camporeale....even Cottrell play the same role and better.

Chesser's another one, but with a decent sprint in him, if he can get on the park.

Then there's the opposition wingers he would have to match up on in the AFL and opposition VFL coaches working out how to counter his strengths.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Under 23 players
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Quote from: LP – on
Moir has an upside, and obvious AFL level tricks, we shouldn't be burdening him with too many negatives so early in his career.

This time next year would be the time to be more critical.

The U23 category is interesting, because it basically sits on the boundary of who will and who won't.

At 21 it's too early to write many players off, and by the time players are 25 you know if they are going to make it or not. I realise there will be some claim they told us so, "they knew" back when a player was 18 or 20, but that news always arrives retrospectively.

Agreed. It's why I don't understand Binns' delisting.

Too many similar types and he didn't have any tricks, disposal was average.

O. Hollands, L. Camporeale....even Cottrell play the same role and better.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Under 23 players
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: LP – on
Moir has an upside, and obvious AFL level tricks, we shouldn't be burdening him with too many negatives so early in his career.

This time next year would be the time to be more critical.

The U23 category is interesting, because it basically sits on the boundary of who will and who won't.

At 21 it's too early to write many players off, and by the time players are 25 you know if they are going to make it or not. I realise there will be some claim they told us so, "they knew" back when a player was 18 or 20, but that news always arrives retrospectively.

It’s better to set lower expectations than to anoint a youngster as the next Kouta or whoever.

Moir clearly has the skills and physical attributes to play AFL.  Just how well remains to be seen … and I’d like to be pleasantly surprised 🙂

List managers spend a lot of time assessing youngsters and they get it right most of the time now.  Of course, there will be those youngsters that slip through the net - both ways - and those that avoid the net altogether, like Alex Cincotta.