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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by dodge -
Jacinta's fight won't be due to great opposition quality. If Jacinta gets up, it is because there is even less hope in the opposition - labour has 56 of 88 seats. LNP needs to work very hard still (although I think there are some pretty tight seats, which helps)

The now ex-coalition don't want to be in federal government - liberals hold 27 seats, nats 31 (out of 150). Going it alone won't get them anywhere.  Nats/PHON is curious, as Hanson has no lower house seats (and never has).  Surely it would be impossible to get to 76 seats for them.

LNP whinge no immediate action from Labor after Bondi, when it happens, whinge that it is too fast.  Nats tell Libs that three shadow cabinet members are going to vote against the proposed consequences knowing that they will be kicked out from s/cabinet. Nats then threaten to have all other s/cabinet members resign if Libs do kick the 3 out - Libs call them out, Nats resign. Don't know if Utopia/Working Dog could have come up with this.

Hanson is gaining traction as she is seen as an opposition, because LNP have no idea how to be a coalition anymore.  Read the One Nation policies, certainly not going to win global citizen of the year, a couple of pie in the sky thought bubbles, a couple of OK ideas  and some rubbish (all parties would have a similar mix) - but really with no legislative experience, and if they got in a whole bunch of MPs with no idea as to how parliament works.  May depend on preferences but have a stronger Senate presence.

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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by LP -
You mean I can’t take the engine out of my land cruiser and put it into a commodore ?
Bummer.
No you have made a false inference.

I can purchase parts and even whole engines from 3rd party suppliers that are price and performance competitive, it's not a captive or closed marketplace.

The average motorist does about 40km a day in Oz, ev have plenty of range for most, esp when after 8-10 years they will still retain 70% SOC. No shortage of ev that have clocked up 300/400 and 500kms+ and are still rolling along fine.
Yes, the bulk of that average is made up within 35kms of a CBD, as accurate as it is it is also very deceptive.

Of course when an 8 year old ICE runs low on fuel you can fill it up and get full range for my longer than average trip, the EV owner can recharge that 8 year old battery stack as much as they like but they'll never get the same range as a new one! ;D

You make it sound like ice vehicles are produced with no emissions from manufacture, zero pollution and running costs and last forever without breaking down and don’t ever run out of dinosaur juice, perpetual motion !
No that's another false assertion, you expose your own desperation.

ICE vehicles like the EVs or other alternatives that will replace them, are not carbon neutral by any measure. All technologies have inherent advantages and weaknesses, wherever the carbon debt occurs, either in use or in manufacture, it's still a carbon debt.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by northernblue -
You mean I can’t take the engine out of my land cruiser and put it into a commodore ?
Bummer.

The average motorist does about 40km a day in Oz, ev have plenty of range for most, esp when after 8-10 years they will still retain 70% SOC.
No shortage of ev that have clocked up 300/400 and 500kms+ and are still rolling along fine.

You make it sound like ice vehicles are produced with no emissions from manufacture, zero pollution and running costs and last forever without breaking down and don’t ever run out of dinosaur juice, perpetual motion !

There’s still plenty of improvements to be made to batteries.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by LP -
LP, what do you mean about people being locked into ev batteries ?

With power tools having removable batteries all being proprietary fits, you’re correct that once you go AEG you are locked in.

Ev do not currently have exchangeable batteries, with the exception of some heavy trucks and buses.
Early on there were 2 types of charging connectors but I believe that is well and truly consolidating, so I’m really not sure what you’re saying ?
The battery is half the price of the car and there are no 3rd party solution, owners are locked in whether you like it or not because it's the manufacturer / vendor that controls your choice. There was an effort several years ago to push for a global standard but the car makers knocked in back in favour of proprietary solutions.

FWIW, a car battery is really thousands of individual cells bundled into parrel battery strings. MTBF of such a large unit quantity means that from day one batteries and the associated strings are degrading. No matter what the marketing spin says, you are going to have to replace them to maintain range and performance. I get that if Joe Average drives 5km a day around the inner city suburbs then range and performance are irrelevant, but 20% of Australia's population live in regional areas and range in particular matters.

There are new battery designs coming, some that last longer, charge faster and are safer, but the car manufacturers are being led kicking and screaming into the change as they already have a large investment in an obsolete technology. The only way this will happen is for governments to legislate, but they won't because the big corporations and billionaires hold countries to fiscal ransom.

By analogy, can you imagine the complaints if somebody invented a new 100% green fuel that was proprietary to a specific brand of vehicle?
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by northernblue -
LP, what do you mean about people being locked into ev batteries ?

With power tools having removable batteries all being proprietary fits, you’re correct that once you go AEG you are locked in.

Ev do not currently have exchangeable batteries, with the exception of some heavy trucks and buses.
Early on there were 2 types of charging connectors but I believe that is well and truly consolidating, so I’m really not sure what you’re saying ?
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -
The structure of politics has changed, being a State Politician use to be a full career, no less than being Prime Minister.

Now being in state politics is just a stepping stone to Federal politics, the gulf between the roles has grown too big as more and more government get's centralised, ironically while they spend their time telling people and industry to decentralise!