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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: How does Crippa rank among the panoply of Carlton greats?
Last post by Gointocarlton -
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So who's your top 5 Pauly? (IMO our top 10 to 15 would smash the top 5 of most clubs, we have been blessed over the journey)

In no particular order :
Cripps
Ken Hunter
Bruce Doull
John Nicholls
Sticks Kernahan

The list is restricted to players from my era, except maybe John Nicholls. Several others would also be worthy nominees.


C Judd C Bradley, G Williams S Silvagni (FBOTC) W Johnston, one could go on and on. Naming a Carlton top 5 is THE most difficult and would be the most hotly debated topic in football.
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The Sports Desk / Re: Commonwealth Games-"Is anybody out there"
Last post by Thryleon -
These meets have all lost something by expanding the competitions out too much.  Once upon a time, the Olympics was all about the order of events and the events themselves were to be watched.  Now watching it is like an ADHD Australian supporter.  You go from sport to sport to sport, and end up not being invested in any one thing but watching Australia. 

Its fine I guess, but its not my cup of tea.  I prefer to watch a sport rather than just our athletes.  Gives me no appreciation of the achievement being the best in a field I havent even gotten to know.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -
There is going to be some interesting side-effects with many regional voters apparently flocking to One Nation, or to Nationals deserters, whatever it may be. Many of the voters live regional to escape what Hanson represents which is ironic, but if One Nation gets any traction I fully expect Gina and Clive will be digging up their backyard in a blink.

Talk about selling the farm! o:
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: How does Crippa rank among the panoply of Carlton greats?
Last post by LP -
Doull should have left footy with far more industry wide honours, I think his problem was that he was too boring for the media, the footy equivalent of a metronome, 100% reliable perfect timing, terrific ball use, game after game, rarely if ever genuinely beaten, the standard by which you measure everybody else, that's the tell for me.

 No fanfare, no histrionics, just go out do the job and then get ready for next week.

The media would rave about Southby, similar mould, so reliable, no waste, played on the glamours and usually beat them, terrific player, but 7 out of 10 times the pill never got that far forward because Doull had already killed it.

We've been lucky over the years, we had a swagger back then but it wasn't hubris, it was a confidence, we copped a lot in the media because the media was dominated by Filth and Feral loud mouths. But we never really boasted, we just got on with the job, for example Walls was the antithesis of Sheedy.

To me a lot of this started when Barassi arrived, he set a culture that lasted decades, admirably extended by Parkin.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: How does Crippa rank among the panoply of Carlton greats?
Last post by PaulP -
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
So who's your top 5 Pauly? (IMO our top 10 to 15 would smash the top 5 of most clubs, we have been blessed over the journey)

In no particular order :
Cripps
Ken Hunter
Bruce Doull
John Nicholls
Sticks Kernahan

The list is restricted to players from my era, except maybe John Nicholls. Several others would also be worthy nominees.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: How does Crippa rank among the panoply of Carlton greats?
Last post by tonyo -
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When you think about the rubbish he has put up with, the fact that he basically never misses a game, all the personal awards, captaincy etc, he is IMO indisputably in top 5 greatest CFC players.

It's really quite a remarkable thing to watch a genuine champion of the club ply their trade in real time. Not stories from old timers about players from past decades, not grainy, low res b/w footage on YouTube, not history books, but the actual lived experience of watching one of the greats. Hopefully we all cherish these moments and never take them for granted.
So who's your top 5 Pauly? (IMO our top 10 to 15 would smash the top 5 of most clubs, we have been blessed over the journey)
I'll weigh in on this one, I've been going to games since the mid 60's.....

5:   Stephen Kernahan - a clutch leader and absolutely bleeds Navy Blue (still).

4:   Bruce Doull - I honestly believe he was the prototype of the modern defender.  Rarely beaten and always full-throttle.   

3:   Patrick Cripps - don't have to say any more.  Agree with the observation that he has had to carry the team (so did Nicholls in his early years).

2:   Alex Jesaulenko - could play anywhere and do absolutely mind-boggling things, and he didn't play the game until he was 14!

1:   John Nicholls - an absolute colossus.  His value to the team went far beyond disposals, tap-outs and goals.  He was truly feared by the opposition.

I reckon this sub-topic deserves its own thread!

Honorable mentions to Judd and Diesel (although they arrived at Princes Park as already-acknowledged champions).  And a little begrudgingly, SOS.