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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda
Last post by Baggers -
Whatever Vossy is selling, the players aren't really buying it. His coaching record at the CFC is looking suspiciously like his tenure up north. Being out coached by Ross didn't help - Tore us open after half time with a change of tac, especially in the midfield.

Poor on-field leadership - conditional and fragile. Weiters looks bored, H is a shell of his former self (a year or more ago), Crippa & Walshy try to do hero stuff when the heat is on and stuff up - saps confidence... the antithesis of leadership. Cerra? Pfft. Saad? Why was he there? Why was an underdone Cotters persisted with? Positives: Cowan trying his guts out (handed a poisoned chalice), ZW never stopped working hard, Kemp - gave his all, Newman - a real leader, Carroll, Dean - yep, he got frustrated but at least he plays like he gives sh*t.

Our turnover game, especially under heat, is appalling (worst in the AFL) and that's coaching.

Images of Crippa on the bench later in the game laughing, galls me.

Soulless and spiritless when heat and/or change happens in game.

Our identity and brand is at its lowest in our once proud history.



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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda
Last post by BlackRooster -
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What were the ruck frees for?

Crossing the line i think.
Put a toe on the line and its a free kick.
Seems fair and reasonable given how huge of an advantage that is.  ::)

Apparently you cannot cross the line until the ball is touch. The StKilda ruckmen would not contest and our ruckmen would step ovet the the line. Like you said big advantage.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda
Last post by Thryleon -
As much as there was a sub plot of ex Carlton players vs Carlton they actually weren't that good.

Stocker was rubbish.
Jack is the same player he was with us.  A few good moments not much else. 
Marshall was the best ruckman on the ground kicking 3 and id question the pay packet if I were him.  Is tdk as effective without him?  Kicked 2, was dominant in hit outs but benefited from some dodgy frees.

Ironically jack carroll played a very handy game.  Probably his best ive seen at afl level.   Hes still noting flashy, and therein shows why we are where we are.  Our ex players are hardly setting the world on fire even if corey durdin has kicked 2 goals a game since he left.

Jack martin is probably performing the best but look where hes at and hes really not playing superior footy to what we have seen before hes just another contributor in a good outfit.

Matt Kennedy.  Solid but unspectacular.   Not a needle mover and a liability with the pace of today's game.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Last post by Thryleon -
I know everyone wants to see youth, but whats the point of putting kids out to the slaughter?

We need to stop thinking of putting players out there to expose them and find out about them, but rather to play a role and learn how to play afl footy. 

Last night:

Matt Carroll
Jagga smith
Lachie cowan
Ollie hollands
Harry dean

Inexperienced but mature:
Liam reiddy.
Frankie evans

Ollie hollands the most experienced of the lot having played 71 games now, the rest are all sub 50 games.

Play too many more and what are they learning?

2 of this lot went off injured fwiw.  Dean with a groin and cowan went off for concussion test (and it may have changed the game).

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
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I told you we wouldnt respond. This group doesnt know how to when challenged.
Surely Byrne being a country lad has a paddock and dam we can borrow for a few days for some camp fire soul searching.
As Mark McClure said "good teams train, poor teams meet"...