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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Where will Carlton finish?
Last post by Lods -
...and despite what some might think, things like injuries , luck, the improvement of young players ...isn't the same for every side.
Variables like this make predicting a season with any confidence a pretty tricky exercise.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Where will Carlton finish?
Last post by Thryleon -
there are enough teams that are terrible that even at our worst we wont fall that far. 

West Coast will struggle to win games.  Melbourne will absolutely slide further.  Richmond arent getting good yet, and im pegging another club will slide perhaps on purpose this season, and it wouldn't shock me if it were Collingwood.

Last year we finished 11th with 7 teams below us
We lost to 3 of them - Port, Kangas and Tigers
We only just beat 2 more of them by 8 points - Bombers and Dees
St. Kilda was a 15 point win
West Coast was 34 points.

Of those 7, i expect 4 to improve, with just eagles, dees and bombers to stay crap or go backwards.

I'm not expected the 4 above us to get worse - Dogs, Suns, Hawks and Swans, which means you're hoping for a top 6 to go bottom 4, which is a big ask, more likely to be us than them.

BUT......this is why we play the season because we simply don't know.

I think you think our worst is a lot worse than i do.

Im not hoping on others, im simply looking at our potential.  We actually have a good bunch of players and havent gone back that far.  Sure, last season we didnt cover ourselves in glory, but we absolutely are better than that in my opinion.


Like you say though, this is where we need to play it out.  I went through an exercise reviewing the off seasons of pretty much every team and hardly anyone has actually improved their list.  Gws and gold coast did, but most others treaded water or went backwards on paper, but the sport isnt played on paper.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Where will Carlton finish?
Last post by Gointocarlton -
For what its worth, my ladder is:
1   Gold Coast
2   Brisbane
3   GWS
4   Western Bulldogs
5   Sydney
6   Hawthorn
7   Adelaide
8   Collingwood
9   St Kilda
10   Geelong
11   Fremantle
12   Carlton
13   Port Adelaide
14   Essendon
15   Melbourne
16   North Melbourne
17   Richmond
18   West Coast
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Where will Carlton finish?
Last post by kruddler -

So anywhere other than bottom 4. lol
there are enough teams that are terrible that even at our worst we wont fall that far. 

West Coast will struggle to win games.  Melbourne will absolutely slide further.  Richmond arent getting good yet, and im pegging another club will slide perhaps on purpose this season, and it wouldn't shock me if it were Collingwood.

Last year we finished 11th with 7 teams below us
We lost to 3 of them - Port, Kangas and Tigers
We only just beat 2 more of them by 8 points - Bombers and Dees
St. Kilda was a 15 point win
West Coast was 34 points.

Of those 7, i expect 4 to improve, with just eagles, dees and bombers to stay crap or go backwards.

I'm not expected the 4 above us to get worse - Dogs, Suns, Hawks and Swans, which means you're hoping for a top 6 to go bottom 4, which is a big ask, more likely to be us than them.

BUT......this is why we play the season because we simply don't know.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by crashlander -
New depths reached over the Obama heads on the bodies of monkeys.
Not by Trump for sharing....we knew what he was.
The behaviour is not surprising in his case.

But by those who are actually trying to excuse the abhorrent images as taken out of context and part of a larger jungle theme. ::)  ::)  ::)
Sad. What can you say about people who think this is acceptable?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Where will Carlton finish?
Last post by Thryleon -
Sorry im a fence sitter.  My range is, wheels fall off as low as 14th.  Things go swimmingly premiership from 2nd to 4th.  Things go average, and results not going our way, probably around 8th.
So anywhere other than bottom 4. lol
there are enough teams that are terrible that even at our worst we wont fall that far. 

West Coast will struggle to win games.  Melbourne will absolutely slide further.  Richmond arent getting good yet, and im pegging another club will slide perhaps on purpose this season, and it wouldn't shock me if it were Collingwood.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Where will Carlton finish?
Last post by northernblue -
Sorry im a fence sitter.  My range is, wheels fall off as low as 14th.  Things go swimmingly premiership from 2nd to 4th.  Things go average, and results not going our way, probably around 8th. 

I think if the wheels do fall off the cellar is the limit.
I also think 8th should have every member reaching for their fly… 😎
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by Lods -
New depths reached over the Obama heads on the bodies of monkeys.
Not by Trump for sharing....we knew what he was.
The behaviour is not surprising in his case.

But by those who are actually trying to excuse the abhorrent images as taken out of context and part of a larger jungle theme. ::)  ::)  ::)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Where will Carlton finish?
Last post by Thryleon -
Sorry im a fence sitter.  My range is, wheels fall off as low as 14th.  Things go swimmingly premiership from 2nd to 4th.  Things go average, and results not going our way, probably around 8th.