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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Last post by laj -
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Not dropping off at any time during the 4 qtrs, not falling 8 goals behind like last week, not getting bowled over in the last half like other weeks. Just 4 qtrs. Might not have been a pretty 4 qtrs, as low scorers are, until the last qtr but we were able to keep going the whole game. Controlling tempo with uncontested marks at times, as 124 marks shows, left us with plenty of run when it mattered. We were smarter in that regard.
You're like the MRP, judging things based primarily on outcome and not intent.
Intent, outcome, pretty good. We were at least smarter the way we went about it. Allowed us to run out the 4th qtr after a hard match. That hasn't happened all year. Interesting!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
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There was a period in the game where we'd kicked 1 goal in 45 minutes of football.
They kicked 3.3 in that time.

If that was 5.1 or 6.0 goals instead, would that change your thought process?


Good try. Side do kick 3 goals in a row., Happens every week.  Not sure why you'd use 3 goals in a row as an issue to suit an argument. 5+ goals in a row, as we did every week, doesn't happen so much, and not on a weekly basis. Fact was the game was always close and stayed that way the first 3 qtrs with never a lead of more than 11pts,  until we opened up in the last qtr. That 2nd qtr we did kick one goal, but the Dogs were heading for a goalless qtr  until that very late one, which I guessed you missed. Barely anyone scored in that qtr. Played the 4 qtrs for the first time all year, running the game out.
actually 5 goals happens in most games these days.  Collingwood jumped sydney just the other night, and then sydney did it back.  Geelong put 7 straight on against Brisbane in Brisbane. Lets not discuss hawthorn and Melbourne. 

Scoring 5 without a goal going in the other way is largely irrelevant when you might kick 0.4 from set shots. 

Not all situations are the same. Ive picked my examples from this round alone and I remember having done more analysis into it when teague was coaching, we were often one set shot missed  away from preventing those 5 goal run ons.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
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Not dropping off at any time during the 4 qtrs, not falling 8 goals behind like last week, not getting bowled over in the last half like other weeks. Just 4 qtrs. Might not have been a pretty 4 qtrs, as low scorers are, until the last qtr but we were able to keep going the whole game. Controlling tempo with uncontested marks at times, as 124 marks shows, left us with plenty of run when it mattered. We were smarter in that regard.
You're like the MRP, judging things based primarily on outcome and not intent.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Last post by laj -
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Not dropping off at any time during the 4 qtrs, not falling 8 goals behind like last week, not getting bowled over in the last half like other weeks. Just 4 qtrs. Might not have been a pretty 4 qtrs, as low scorers are, until the last qtr but we were able to keep going the whole game. Controlling tempo with uncontested marks at times, as 124 marks shows, left us with plenty of run when it mattered. We were smarter in that regard.

There was a period in the game where we'd kicked 1 goal in 45 minutes of football.
They kicked 3.3 in that time.

If that was 5.1 or 6.0 goals instead, would that change your thought process?


Good try. Side do kick 3 goals in a row., Happens every week.  Not sure why you'd use 3 goals in a row as an issue to suit an argument. 5+ goals in a row, as we did every week, doesn't happen so much, and not on a weekly basis. Fact was the game was always close and stayed that way the first 3 qtrs with never a lead of more than 11pts,  until we opened up in the last qtr. That 2nd qtr we did kick one goal, but the Dogs were heading for a goalless qtr  until that very late one, which I guessed you missed. Barely anyone scored in that qtr. Played the 4 qtrs for the first time all year, running the game out.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Last post by Lods -
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It irrelevant, if I don’t have your support, I may as well let you get on with the changes that you obviously want to make.
Totally reasonable position.

I tend to agree.

Yes
I also agree
The point is that Voss's departure is being framed as a 'sacking' rather than a failure to renew a contract.
Now, you can argue "little difference" ...the end result is the same.
But there is a difference... in terms of who determined the timing of that decision.
We will write that the club determined that timing, and over the years that will become "we sacked Voss midway through the year," when in fact the timing and method of his departure was determined by Voss.
He went out on his terms, at a time of his choosing.
Which version do you think he would prefer?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
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Strip it all back, new coach, new captain, new leadership group, new List Manager and do it right...

And that is the recipe we've been following since Parko retired  ::)
When Form Fours went out the door and the AFL went down the equalization path having the rich clubs being made to subsidize the poor clubs we never recovered. More Money was what bought our success, our List Management in particular has been horrendous and as I said to you pre season dont get your hopes up with a few fringe players replacing the quality we had leaving.
Wright has already removed the LM and coach so he must see that as a problem area too....
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Last post by kruddler -
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I thought the second half against Brisbane was basically similar to last night, just that last night we went at it a bit longer and didn't allow the Dogs to get the same run on. But a lot of it is Cripps, he has the most dominant game I've seen from him in two years, and was continually driving us forward even when we were wasting the footy.

Other than sticking with the plan better and longer, it was basically the same game tactics we've been trying to implement all season. I do find it odd that many only notice it now, after a win, they must be blinded by hatred at other times! To me it's been obvious we have been trying to implement a Lions style of play, I've been writing as much since about Rnd 3 or 4, just that we have been NBG at it!

I thought the young Dogs were not allowed the same degree of freedom, or were incapable of making the same space, that the Lions could.

If we were truly much better we should have won by 5 or 6 goals, I'm still a little disheartened by our tendency to limp to the end.
Not dropping off at any time during the 4 qtrs, not falling 8 goals behind like last week, not getting bowled over in the last half like other weeks. Just 4 qtrs. Might not have been a pretty 4 qtrs, as low scorers are, until the last qtr but we were able to keep going the whole game. Controlling tempo with uncontested marks at times, as 124 marks shows, left us with plenty of run when it mattered. We were smarter in that regard.

There was a period in the game where we'd kicked 1 goal in 45 minutes of football.
They kicked 3.3 in that time.

If that was 5.1 or 6.0 goals instead, would that change your thought process?

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Last post by Thryleon -
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Strip it all back, new coach, new captain, new leadership group, new List Manager and do it right...

And that is the recipe we've been following since Parko retired  ::)
I cant wait for another 5 years of holding up the ladder.  Whats another 100 games for 20 wins between Carlton supporters?  We might even get another number 1 draft pick whilst we are at it.  We have had the most of any club this century and still cant work out that the cost benefit doesn't weigh up.