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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by kruddler -
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We allowed him to continue his contract.
Took away his top liners.
Now want to sack him after 4 games?
What the hell did you expect to happen??


We didn't take away his topliners
His topliners left of their own accord.
They wanted to go.
...and there may have been some disaffection with the coaching direction that  contributed to those decisions.

Poor choice of words..
We didnt replace his top liners.
Result is the same though.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by madbluboy -
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The thing is, its now happened so many times that surely nothing is now ‘kneejerk’.

We allowed him to continue his contract.
Took away his top liners.
Now want to sack him after 4 games?
What the hell did you expect to happen??


I don't understand how anyone thought this was not a rebuild.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by LP -
I'm think fans are deluded if they think these guys will arrive as match winners from day one, they weren't match winners at the club they came from and at our club in a new team and environment they'll need at least 1/2 a season to settle.

In the long term they won't be bad, but they won't be any better than they were, they aren't going to turn into Judd just because the switched clubs.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by MickyO -
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Watching the replay, if you ignore all the late pressure induced errors and the obvious umpiring blunders, we still missed multiple shots at goal from within a 25m range and ultimately that was a big contributor to the events that cost us the game.
Yeah hitting the post multiple times from
Close range is just a killer.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by MickyO -
Yeah I didnt expect to be near the top
But i dod expect us to be able to account for richmond Melbourne and North!

CC was crap last year. Yes hes missed because he got the best defender. We miss TDKs hard work and athleticism, but what could we do there, thanks to SOS targetting him and giving him millions.

But we have Got talent and imo hayward was a liability yday and frankly played like hes a dickhead, florent seemed so slow but did work hard -
Maybe he shouldve been
Moved forward? I do recall Hayes was terrible in his first game so hopefully Florent will improve.

Newman and Elijah ran out of puff unfortunately and Weiters’ off injured, crap umpiring all going their way etc etc

Now the anger has dissipated I agree re Voss.  BUT changes need to be made when the game changes!  Even if it doesnt work its become a fail so to correct a fail you need to do something else.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by LP -
Watching the replay, if you ignore all the late pressure induced errors and the obvious umpiring blunders, we still missed multiple shots at goal from within a 25m range and ultimately that was a big contributor to the events that cost us the game.

Fundamental errors, like missing because they ultimately kicked in the direction they were heading but they weren't heading for goal.

On a separate issue, I watch Kemp and think what a waste. This bloke rolled up to our club as a player who was capable of forward play and midfield rotations, and we basically burnt him by wasting his capabilities on the HBF. Now towards the end we want him to learn the F50, it's like resetting to day one and he seriously looks out of his depth.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Back to the Moon
Last post by LP -
The "high cost" of this or that which is the typical media message is really a drop in the ocean. Media always talk total$ because the big number seems alarming or scary, but the reality is it's something like $0.05 per person per annum and the payback is many times that.

I've heard on the radio the other day RedTrump dropped the equivalent of one full year of a NASA budget in the first week of the assault on Iran and got nothing to show for it other than debt!

btw., When the US media bang on about waste and how much the US spends, and why aren't others helping, they ignore to inform the US audience that about half of the bill is being footed for the Artimis project comes from foreign governments or investment. Yet when a foreign government or entity uses inclusive language about "us" or "we" the US media will claim it's all America.

Did you know if you want to sell IP into the USA, the IP must conform to US law, meaning no matter who holds that IP it has to be in a single name and they have to effectively sign over right of access to the US government, and they have the gall to assert China are crooks! If the IP has any use at all to the US military they will develop local capability and chop out foreign supply, and they have done on items as wide ranging as food packaging and CAD software. I know a person in Melbourne who developed CAD software used in advanced manufacturing, he held the IP globally but the US used it's law to develop a local capability with a contract handed out to a big US company. The Melbournian still made good money out of it, tens of million, but the US company made billion$.

The same thing with the US assault on Iran, some significant percentage of the US munitions come from other countries including Israel, ironic isn't it that Israel profits by dragging others into the fight, the US media just claim it's all America. Some of the air defence systems they use cost US$20M per round fired, and they spray them around like air freshener! Keep that in mind when you hear RedTrump begging for assistance!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: kruddler – on


We allowed him to continue his contract.
Took away his top liners.
Now want to sack him after 4 games?
What the hell did you expect to happen??


We didn't take away his topliners
His topliners left of their own accord.
They wanted to go.
...and there may have been some disaffection with the coaching direction that  contributed to those decisions.

Now I agree, now is not the time to sack him.
We want a careful consideration of who we want coaching us in 2027 and that will be clearer at the end of the year in terms of availability...(if a decision hasn't already been made)...the closer we can get to that the better.
Round 4  is too long for a caretaker coach to maintain any sugar hit.
There's also the danger an interim coach make a claim for the job full-time and prove to be a false saviour in the long run...so the  longer we delay that move the better.
And as I mentioned before we have a run of three or four games which will give us a much better idea.
But I suspect around mid-year the decision on Voss will have been made...if not made public.

What's the best move in the short term.
In some respects it might be a case of Wright coming out and saying "regardless of results, we've contracted Michael until the end of the year and we will be honoring that contract...so everyone else can get stuffed."
Wright wont be going public saying that.

It leaves no wiggle room.