Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: laj – on May 17, 2026, 04:19:29 pm

Good try. Side do kick 3 goals in a row., Happens every week.  Not sure why you'd use 3 goals in a row as an issue to suit an argument. 5+ goals in a row, as we did every week, doesn't happen so much, and not on a weekly basis. Fact was the game was always close and stayed that way the first 3 qtrs with never a lead of more than 11pts,  until we opened up in the last qtr. That 2nd qtr we did kick one goal, but the Dogs were heading for a goalless qtr  until that very late one, which I guessed you missed. Barely anyone scored in that qtr. Played the 4 qtrs for the first time all year, running the game out.

actually 5 goals happens in most games these days.  Collingwood jumped sydney just the other night, and then sydney did it back.  Geelong put 7 straight on against Brisbane in Brisbane. Lets not discuss hawthorn and Melbourne. 

Scoring 5 without a goal going in the other way is largely irrelevant when you might kick 0.4 from set shots. 

Not all situations are the same. Ive picked my examples from this round alone and I remember having done more analysis into it when teague was coaching, we were often one set shot missed  away from preventing those 5 goal run ons.

Quote from: laj – on May 17, 2026, 03:13:32 pm

Not dropping off at any time during the 4 qtrs, not falling 8 goals behind like last week, not getting bowled over in the last half like other weeks. Just 4 qtrs. Might not have been a pretty 4 qtrs, as low scorers are, until the last qtr but we were able to keep going the whole game. Controlling tempo with uncontested marks at times, as 124 marks shows, left us with plenty of run when it mattered. We were smarter in that regard.

You're like the MRP, judging things based primarily on outcome and not intent.

Quote from: kruddler – on May 17, 2026, 03:30:35 pm

There was a period in the game where we'd kicked 1 goal in 45 minutes of football.
They kicked 3.3 in that time.

If that was 5.1 or 6.0 goals instead, would that change your thought process?

Good try. Side do kick 3 goals in a row., Happens every week.  Not sure why you'd use 3 goals in a row as an issue to suit an argument. 5+ goals in a row, as we did every week, doesn't happen so much, and not on a weekly basis. Fact was the game was always close and stayed that way the first 3 qtrs with never a lead of more than 11pts,  until we opened up in the last qtr. That 2nd qtr we did kick one goal, but the Dogs were heading for a goalless qtr  until that very late one, which I guessed you missed. Barely anyone scored in that qtr. Played the 4 qtrs for the first time all year, running the game out.

Not dropping off at any time during the 4 qtrs, not falling 8 goals behind like last week, not getting bowled over in the last half like other weeks. Just 4 qtrs. Might not have been a pretty 4 qtrs, as low scorers are, until the last qtr but we were able to keep going the whole game. Controlling tempo with uncontested marks at times, as 124 marks shows, left us with plenty of run when it mattered. We were smarter in that regard.

Quote from: laj – on May 17, 2026, 03:13:32 pm

Not dropping off at any time during the 4 qtrs, not falling 8 goals behind like last week, not getting bowled over in the last half like other weeks. Just 4 qtrs. Might not have been a pretty 4 qtrs, as low scorers are, until the last qtr but we were able to keep going the whole game. Controlling tempo with uncontested marks at times, as 124 marks shows, left us with plenty of run when it mattered. We were smarter in that regard.

There was a period in the game where we'd kicked 1 goal in 45 minutes of football.
They kicked 3.3 in that time.

If that was 5.1 or 6.0 goals instead, would that change your thought process?

Quote from: northernblue – on May 17, 2026, 03:05:20 pm

It irrelevant, if I don’t have your support, I may as well let you get on with the changes that you obviously want to make.
Totally reasonable position.

I tend to agree.

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on May 17, 2026, 03:10:55 pm

Strip it all back, new coach, new captain, new leadership group, new List Manager and do it right...

And that is the recipe we've been following since Parko retired 

Quote from: LP – on May 17, 2026, 01:19:49 pm

I thought the second half against Brisbane was basically similar to last night, just that last night we went at it a bit longer and didn't allow the Dogs to get the same run on. But a lot of it is Cripps, he has the most dominant game I've seen from him in two years, and was continually driving us forward even when we were wasting the footy.

Other than sticking with the plan better and longer, it was basically the same game tactics we've been trying to implement all season. I do find it odd that many only notice it now, after a win, they must be blinded by hatred at other times! To me it's been obvious we have been trying to implement a Lions style of play, I've been writing as much since about Rnd 3 or 4, just that we have been NBG at it!

I thought the young Dogs were not allowed the same degree of freedom, or were incapable of making the same space, that the Lions could.

If we were truly much better we should have won by 5 or 6 goals, I'm still a little disheartened by our tendency to limp to the end.

Not dropping off at any time during the 4 qtrs, not falling 8 goals behind like last week, not getting bowled over in the last half like other weeks. Just 4 qtrs. Might not have been a pretty 4 qtrs, as low scorers are, until the last qtr but we were able to keep going the whole game. Controlling tempo with uncontested marks at times, as 124 marks shows, left us with plenty of run when it mattered. We were smarter in that regard.

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on May 17, 2026, 03:10:55 pm

Strip it all back, new coach, new captain, new leadership group, new List Manager and do it right...

And that is the recipe we've been following since Parko retired