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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Back to the Moon
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: Thryleon – on
@kruddler im creating the conversation and being somewhat told off for it.

Forgive me for me lack of patience and/or tolerance on the matter.
But in a world where flat earthers are getting louder and a bigger following and humans are getting more ignorant and uneducated as a result....im over it.
I can forgive a lack of patience.  My questioning is always a philosophical one.

Just because we can do something doesnt mean we should. 

Space has its issues.  Some say minerals in space are abundant, but the cost benefit analysis to harvest those resources and bring them to earth is real.

Ecologically it might be sound but it needs a dose of reality and logistics to go with it.

The moon mission could be explained as simply as these guys are practising something that is planned on being repeated umpteen times.  Thing is, we dont do well on our own planet as is.

Finally the moon has very real consequences to life on earth.  Tides, and various other things that we have only scratched the surface of understanding.  

If we start bringing space rocks home what ecological issues could they conceivably cause? 

The moon is said to be slowly drifting out of orbit of the earth.  Will putting people there impact it?  What about we start exploding things on it?  If there is no moon how does that impact life on earth?

All good questions.  None of it flat earth based.  We are scratching the surface of our understanding of ecological systems on our own rock.  The impact of other planes is a known unknown.  We dont know how balanced everything needs to be before we start having additional impact we dont understand.

Finally question everything.  Flat earthers behave as you have here.  Shut down opposing thought and ideals because declaring right or wrong is more important than expanding their own thought processes.  Im willing to say I dont know, and am curious but Eratosthenes experiment with shadows and the sun plus the Coriolis effect means a flat earth model doesn't really work well unless there is something that isnt understood.

Science has been written and re written across generations and ive become a bit more concious of the fact that if we dont question the status quote thats the only time that you work against science.  Had Galileo not worked to prove what he observed in spite of what society of the time held as truth, how would we look at our planet today?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: JonDorotich – on
Enough has been said about our problems, but what about solutions? We’re clearly on track for a spoon and need to act, without having the luxury of a change in personnel..

Some left field ideas to consider
(1) Ainsworth as a back pocket/lockdown small forward defender . We don’t have one and I don’t really rate him as a great high HF.
(2) Hayward to HB? We need some pace and class off HB and for whatever reason, he’s not getting a touch in our system. I’d also be hoping that Billy Wilson comes on as we lack leg speed coming out of defence
(3) McKay back - let’s face it he’s not a great forward and we need to find a way to purge the Yoings/Derksens from our side. He has some pace and can surely follow his man around?
(4) Cripps full forward? He’s 195cm and playing about as badly as I can recall. Need to freshen him up and work with him to improve his kicking. HOK & Reidy don’t really strike me as great options but are also worthy of consideration at this stage.
(5) Hollands x2 - I keep saying if, but their good is outweighed by their bad. Critical turnovers or poor decisions cost us so dearly with these two. I’d be dropping both permanently and finding others to play their role.
(6) Florent/Saad into a new roles - both are sadly out of form. Can we find a way to freshen he other up, pinch hitting up forward or at centre bounces?

Would love to hear others views on changes that we can make. As a starting point I’d suggest that removing Young/Derkson & both Hollands is a step in the right direction & I know lots will disagree with me in Elijah’s case, but that’s my view.


Certainly left field JD. At the end of the day, anything might be worth a try. Cripps would need some serious work on his kicking if he is to play FF.
Harry back would be a concern for me, you need abit a crap about you to play down back, thats not in H's DNA unfortunately. It seems to me those issues he faced last year which forced him to have time off might not be fully resolved, he isn't a patch on Coleman H, its actually quite sad as he should be in the prime of his career and should be taking games apart.
As I said, anythings worth a go.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by bratblue -
Therer are two phases to our game. We're ok at the first which is contended with fresh players.  In the second phase we are dismal, thats when the big slow bodies in the center really hurt us and the opposition have known that for a number of years.

The coaching staff have't got a plan for that second phase other than to try to repeat the first and it never works, thats on Voss not the slow players. We need those change up a gear players, some who have done some bench time and are fresh for the onslaught while the big body players do some bench time and go foward in Cripps case. Thats the time to send Harry back and Young/Derkson forward.  Derkson was lost out there yesterday.

Voss won't do something like that as he cannot.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 3 2026 Carlton vs North Melbourne at Arden St.
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: Lods – on
Just as an aside...
The Devils have gotten good pretty quickly.
78 points over Frankston
Notice that we're next on the chopping block.
another afl propped up club to try beat to a flag.  Yay.

Its like fighting with one arm tied behind your back to play catch up and the decisions of the past 15 years have cemented our inability to compete.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by MickyO -
I was too furious to pay proper attention in the last - if we were trying to run the clock down as it seemed, did we throw mcg or harry down back or change anything at all? Or was it a ‘stick to the plan’; which id thats the case and it continually fails them, no wonder the players panic.

Change has to happen - coach, or game play/tactics, or match ups need to be moved around.