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Quote from: northernblue – on February 07, 2026, 12:02:52 am

Unless they think we can do well in our first 4-8 games and want to make an announcement then…?
Be smarter to do it now.

I can sorta understand but don’t agree with the decision to allow Voss to coach into 26 but I think tactically they’ve missed the chance to make this 12 month extension.
Maybe if Davies was on board earlier it may have happened this way Krudds.

I was fine with voss getting the right to coach or his contract.
Either way, once we showed him to stay and we cut the list the way we did, the only fair thing to do is give him the extra year. The expectations from supporters and media alike will fixate on his contract to the detriment of the club. So contract him and get that our of the equation.

I don't expect results to be favourable early on, so dint risk it. Sign him now.

This sound also help with talent aquisition as the unknown about who will coach is removed.

Quote from: kruddler – on February 06, 2026, 07:43:38 pm

He is contracted for 2026 already, i am suggesting adding 2027 now.

Are you suggesting adding in 2028 also??

Unless they think we can do well in our first 4-8 games and want to make an announcement then…?
Be smarter to do it now.

I can sorta understand but don’t agree with the decision to allow Voss to coach into 26 but I think tactically they’ve missed the chance to make this 12 month extension.
Maybe if Davies was on board earlier it may have happened this way Krudds.

Quote from: kruddler – on February 06, 2026, 07:43:38 pm

He is contracted for 2026 already, i am suggesting adding 2027 now.

Are you suggesting adding in 2028 also??

No
I'm agreeing with you.
Just the extra year -2027
A one year extension, but don't wait to do it.
If we wait to do it 2026 results become a factor.

Quote from: Lods – on February 06, 2026, 07:36:56 pm

I actually think that's a better idea.
Give him the two years now.
And emphasise the tranistional nature of this year....because I think even the most optimistic of us don't see us going deep into the finals.
Improving yes, but not dramtically.

If we do go really low on the ladder that extra year becomes a much harder sell at the end of the year.

The two problems I see are
- we're getting some really positive messages out of the club, rather than dampening expectaions they're raising them.
- have we already sounded someone out for 2027 and are keeping our powder dry to see what eventuates.
(the club isn't seen to be sacking a coach prior to contract end, but has someone lined up once Voss's contract finishes.)

He is contracted for 2026 already, i am suggesting adding 2027 now.

Are you suggesting adding in 2028 also??

Quote from: Lods – on February 06, 2026, 07:36:56 pm

I actually think that's a better idea.
Give him the two years now.
And emphasise the tranistional nature of this year....because I think even the most optimistic of us don't see us going deep into the finals.
Improving yes, but not dramtically.

If we do go really low on the ladder that extra year becomes a much harder sell at the end of the year.

The two problems I see are
- we're getting some really positive messages out of the club, rather than dampening expectaions they're raising them.
- have we already sounded someone out for 2027 and are keeping our powder dry to see what eventuates.
(the club isn't seen to be sacking a coach prior to contract end, but has someone lined up once Voss's contract finishes.)

He is contracted for 2026 already, i am suggesting adding 2027 now.

Are you suggesting adding in 2028 also??

Quote from: kruddler – on February 06, 2026, 07:24:36 pm

You literally quoted me in a post where i said 'drop a couple' positions....so thats what i was responding too.

It doesn't matter.

Giving him a 1 year deal if we finish bottom 4 is not realistic.....in your eyes. I, and some others, will disagree.

If i was the one who was making the call, i'd come out and give him a year now and say that....
"Whilst we will not be a ceiling on this year, we are mindful of some big changes in the off-season. This year will be a year of transition and with a bit of luck, the transition will be completed before Round 1, but more than likely some further time will be required. We are not conceding anything, but we are also mindful that unrealistic expectations can lead to unneccesary knee jerk reactions. Its for this reason that we want Vossy to develop this team for sustained success and not have to worry about if he has a job each week"

Puts it all out there.
Hope for the best, plan for the worst.

I actually think that's a better idea.
Give him the two years now.
And emphasise the tranistional nature of this year....because I think even the most optimistic of us don't see us going deep into the finals.
Improving yes, but not dramtically.

If we do go really low on the ladder that extra year becomes a much harder sell at the end of the year.

The two problems I see are
- we're getting some really positive messages out of the club, rather than dampening expectaions they're raising them.
- have we already sounded someone out for 2027 and are keeping our powder dry to see what eventuates.
(the club isn't seen to be sacking a coach prior to contract end, but has someone lined up once Voss's contract finishes.)

Quote from: Lods – on February 06, 2026, 07:08:10 pm

No
You're the one changing the goal posts there.
I've been arguing all day based around MBB's prediction of a bottom 4 finish.

That's the basis of what I've written.
You've come late to the argument.

Giving him one year after a bottom 4 finish is not realistic.
Around 13 he may be a chance, but even then a slim one.

One thing we do agree on is that 2027 will be a year where we will be better, but we're bouncing from different starting points.
I have us a few places ahead of you this year.
And I expect Voss to be the coach.

You literally quoted me in a post where i said 'drop a couple' positions....so thats what i was responding too.

It doesn't matter.

Giving him a 1 year deal if we finish bottom 4 is not realistic.....in your eyes. I, and some others, will disagree.

If i was the one who was making the call, i'd come out and give him a year now and say that....
"Whilst we will not be a ceiling on this year, we are mindful of some big changes in the off-season. This year will be a year of transition and with a bit of luck, the transition will be completed before Round 1, but more than likely some further time will be required. We are not conceding anything, but we are also mindful that unrealistic expectations can lead to unneccesary knee jerk reactions. Its for this reason that we want Vossy to develop this team for sustained success and not have to worry about if he has a job each week"

Puts it all out there.
Hope for the best, plan for the worst.