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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
2023 did us more harm than good imho, it was a false dawn that allowed the club to continue on the same road to nowhere.
We are not an innovative club but more of a reactive club and like a mug investor usually late to the party when the big money has been made and in our case are trying to play catchup to the modern game with still an old list(6th in the league).
There doesnt seem to be a long term plan just a reactive change of direction every year or when the media decide we are no good again and we need to appease the critics.
Unfortunately Shawny is probably right and we will need another cleanout of sorts and thats going to be difficult with Tassie commanding the draft and probably the trade period with their extra money to tempt off contract players.
Cripps and Harry are players who I would look to cash in on while they still have some value and I think both need a change of scenery anyway for their own careers...Harry in particular might give us a good return if he was interested in Tassie as a good place to make some extra money.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
I would have persisted with Moir and Reidy, both are young and the future, we are probably at an inflexion point of deciding whether to prioritise trying to win games now to save the coach or trying to develop a team that can contend properly in a couple of years time. Players like Acres, Haynes, Fogarty, McGovern wont be long at the club and yep they may help squeeze some wins out vs the Tigers, WC, Nth, Essendon but they really are just roadblocks to younger players developing quicker imo and Id be wanting a focus on youth and that probably means a few heavy defeats.
A player like Chesser who probably doesnt warrant a place at the minute needs to be played and given the chance to develop, I wasnt a huge fan of his recruiting but now we have him he needs to be played and persisted with in a few different roles imo...same with Reidy and Moir who were given the one game vs the Swans then dumped, thats ridiculous imo.


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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: pew2 – on
how Bad is our recruiting first sos and now nick Austin 
Is it the recruiting? Is it the coach?, is it both? or is the off field not right so the onfield will never be right?
You never know with Carlton as its a game of snakes and ladders just up and down, no one can be definitive on what is the major problem. As Clarkson recently said its hard to drag a bottomed out club back up the ladder and we have tried or copied every method and now are in the Collingwood premiership year moneyball plan where we have made a number of list changes on the cheap to initiate change of game style in contrast to fellow perennial strugglers Stkilda who have sold the farm to change their fortunes. There doesnt seem to be a one size plan that fits all that guarantees success....
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: Lods – on
With Tasmania coming in the Draft won't bring us a lot of joy.

Potentially.

I cant remember if the rules are set in stone or not, but i believe part of the deal is that tassie must trade away some of their early picks/ concessions.

This is where we can try and get a leg up.

Trade away a 30yo Harry and get a top 3 pick.....or trades of that ilk.

It SHOULD make it a little bit easier to get top picks.

Now whether you use those picks on kids or other established talent is a later debate, but getting the picks should be a good start.



True...
It's probably a question as to what our 'capital' looks like at the end of 2027 and that;s  bit of an unknown.

Cowan is one name that is often linked to Tassie.
How he goes over the next two seasons would determine his worth.
We may want to keep him and he might want to stay.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: Lods – on
With Tasmania coming in the Draft won't bring us a lot of joy.

Potentially.

I cant remember if the rules are set in stone or not, but i believe part of the deal is that tassie must trade away some of their early picks/ concessions.

This is where we can try and get a leg up.

Trade away a 30yo Harry and get a top 3 pick.....or trades of that ilk.

It SHOULD make it a little bit easier to get top picks.

Now whether you use those picks on kids or other established talent is a later debate, but getting the picks should be a good start.