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Last post by Gointocarlton -I worked with masina halvagis mum back at kmart in Burwood.
She was stabbed at the cemetery if anyone remembers. I reckon people are more fearful.
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Last post by Lods -If you want to punish kids for crimes all you will achieve is the production of “better” criminals…
Younger kids in particular need intervention and diversion to steer them back to productive lives.
To pull a figure out of my butt there’s probably 1% that should be incarcerated for life, the rest can be constructive humans but money and programs need to be funded now, in the long term they are heaps cheaper than building more prisons that take us back to the “better” criminals.
Nailed it.
The cost of keeping someone in prison each day is quite steep when you account for all the factors that go into that incarceration.
Prisons can essentially be "schools of crime".
Education and diversion programs are the way to go.
Catch them before they enter the 'system'
You won't save everyone but you'll possibly save some money and grief and set the kids on a different path.
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Last post by LP -Even when you know about it, the exposure still changes the decisions you make, the perspective you take and your conclusions. It's why science and engineering use double blind testing.
The numbers never lie, it's the perceptions and conclusions the people get wrong.
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Last post by DJC -Anxiety is higher now because the crims are winning and the laws favour rehabilitation over punishment.
I suspect that most folk have experienced crime and have suffered as a result.
One of my brothers and I were lucky to survive being stabbed many times, my sister in law was murdered, my sister was raped, another brother was king hit while walking on St Kilda pier, my buck’s night was disrupted by an all in brawl … and all of those incidents occurred last century.
This century has been relatively quiet in contrast, and that’s confirmed by the statistics.
Anxiety about crime is higher now and that’s down to the law and order agenda pushed by the media and politicians - when it suits their electoral ambitions.
You add the shortfall in Police numbers Australia wide and crime is now a career choice...
Once again, a claim that is not borne out by the facts. Incarceration rates have increased from about 100 per 100,000 people in the late 1960s to over 200 per 100,000 by 2021 and that's despite crime rates not increasing significantly.
There was a shortfall of more than 4,500 police officers Australia wide in 2024 but just 800 vacancies in Victoria. The situation isn't helped by lucrative superannuation schemes that encourage early retirement.
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Last post by northernblue -Younger kids in particular need intervention and diversion to steer them back to productive lives.
To pull a figure out of my butt there’s probably 1% that should be incarcerated for life, the rest can be constructive humans but money and programs need to be funded now, in the long term they are heaps cheaper than building more prisons that take us back to the “better” criminals.
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Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -Yep. You just gotta love stats. You can prove almost anything with them.
I suspect that most folk have experienced crime and have suffered as a result.
One of my brothers and I were lucky to survive being stabbed many times, my sister in law was murdered, my sister was raped, another brother was king hit while walking on St Kilda pier, my buck’s night was disrupted by an all in brawl … and all of those incidents occurred last century.
This century has been relatively quiet in contrast, and that’s confirmed by the statistics.
Anxiety about crime is higher now and that’s down to the law and order agenda pushed by the media and politicians - when it suits their electoral ambitions.
You add the shortfall in Police numbers Australia wide and crime is now a career choice...
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Last post by DJC -It’s a 21st century phenomenon; the facts don’t matter because uninformed punters know better.
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