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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: cookie2 – on
Yep. You just gotta love stats. You can prove almost anything with them.

I suspect that most folk have experienced crime and have suffered as a result.

One of my brothers and I were lucky to survive being stabbed many times, my sister in law was murdered, my sister was raped, another brother was king hit while walking on St Kilda pier, my buck’s night was disrupted by an all in brawl … and all of those incidents occurred last century.

This century has been relatively quiet in contrast, and that’s confirmed by the statistics.

Anxiety about crime is higher now and that’s down to the law and order agenda pushed by the media and politicians - when it suits their electoral ambitions. 

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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by cookie2 -
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Quote from: cookie2 – on
We were confronted by an intruder in our house about a year ago now. Long story but my partner was traumatised at the time and has only recently begun to get back to normal. We must get these thugs out of society but we have little confidence in our present state government.

Tell your partner they will be fine, the numbers are good.

Yep. You just gotta love stats. You can prove almost anything with them.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by PaulP -
It would certainly be interesting to compare crime rates over the last 20 or 30 years, and also to compare our crime rates to other developed countries. The psychological aspects would also be interesting to look at. There has never been, nor will there ever be, any place that has a 0% crime rate, so there must be some emotional or practical trigger that would cause people to feel worried or unsafe, and conversely some state of affairs that would make people feel safe.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by Thryleon -
I worked with masina halvagis mum back at kmart in Burwood.

She was stabbed at the cemetery if anyone remembers. I reckon people are more fearful.

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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by DJC -
You can look at the Crime Statistics Agency website to see Victoria's crime rates and trends.  With the exception of property and deception offences, criminal incident rates have stayed remarkably stable over the last five years.

I think that Thry is on the money with his analysis.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Not trying to make light of anything there DJC but a decrease in homicide rates could simply be down to better medical knowledge and care as well.

Less people dead, doesn't necesarily mean less people attacked.

Yes it does, because the figures relate to "homicide and related offences" and that includes unlawfully killing another person, attempting to do so, or conspiring to do so.  There doesn't have to be an attack, let alone a death, to register as a "homicide and related offence".
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by kruddler -
Not trying to make light of anything there DJC but a decrease in homicide rates could simply be down to better medical knowledge and care as well.

Less people dead, doesn't necesarily mean less people attacked.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by DJC -
Phil Cleary is writing a book about growing up in Coburg in the 1960s and 1970s and one of the key issues he is addressing is the routine violence that we experienced way back then.  We had a long discussion about schoolmates and neighbourhood identities who were murdered or committed murders, and who were involved in senseless acts of violence.  Of course, Phil's sister, Vicki, was stabbed to death by an ex-partner in 1987.

Unfortunately, it's not easy to find crime statistics going back to the 1960s. According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS), the number of victims of homicide and related offences (eg attempted murder) in Australia has decreased from 697 recorded victims in 1993 to 416 victims in 2019.  The ABS says "the victimisation rate for homicide and related offences remained relatively low across the time series and ranged from about 4 victims per 100,000 persons to about 2 victims per 100,000 persons. This means that after accounting for population change, the victimisation rate for homicide has halved."

Assault victimisation rates are not published for Victoria, Queensland or the ACT but the other States and the NT recorded increases from 1993 to 2019, except for SA which remained stable.

Over the last ten years, on a national level, there has been a decrease in the victimisation rates for physical assault (from 2.3% to 1.7%), face-to-face threatened assault (from 2.7% to 2.1%), and robbery (from 0.4% to 0.2%).  Over the same period, the victimisation rate for sexual assault (persons aged 18 years and over) increased from 0.3% to 0.6%.

So, yeh, nah, it's not way worse!