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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by kruddler -
I wouldn't be paying much attention to predictions and betting odds. These things can turn on a dime. We were flag favorites after R3 in 2012 and we were flag favorites at the end of '23 and into '24. The season is so long - teams with bad starts can have good finishes and vice versa. Whatever mojo we need to win the flag has nothing to do with Charlie, De Koning or Silvagni - last year's results make that clear.

Its a prediction rather than a crystal ball.
But, there is something to be said about the wisdom of the masses and also putting money on the line. Its the best indication of what is expected that there is.

There are clearly a lot of variables. Everything from injuries to young talent development to older players falling off a cliff to shear luck and many more which will ultimately have a lot of sway in final positions.

But all things being equal, thats about right.
Things are never equal, and were probably due some luck.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by PaulP -
I wouldn't be paying much attention to predictions and betting odds. These things can turn on a dime. We were flag favorites after R3 in 2012 and we were flag favorites at the end of '23 and into '24. The season is so long - teams with bad starts can have good finishes and vice versa. Whatever mojo we need to win the flag has nothing to do with Charlie, De Koning or Silvagni - last year's results make that clear.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by kruddler -
Didn't we fundamentally have such a thing years ago in primary school with the old CBA bank books?

At least once a week we'd all have to bring in our bank books and have the teacher bundle them up with some pennies to deposit as a learned savings scheme.

I can't see how that would work now, if it's online it'll be a target scheme for hackers, millions of less secure low value accounts that banks do not give a stuff about.

Dollamiite accounts.

I had one and it was the best account you could have in terms of fees/interest benefits.

You had your little deposit book, which we used to put a gold coin in every week and off they went through the school.
Looking back, you couldn't get away with that now, some bugger would steal it before it ever got deposited, but it was good at the time.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by LP -
A mate of mine made a comment the other day about our list management decisions, and how we seem to rotate certain utility types far more frequently than others.

He said, "It's like Carlton has a leaky sink full of holes, and we keep blaming the plug!"
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by LP -
If wealthy families won’t invest, it’s dead in the water because most families won’t be able to afford to.
The RedTrump scheme is not really targeted at the wealthy, it's intended for Mum & Dad investor types.

It seems innocuous on the surface, but I suspect the devil is in the detail and you can't trust RedTrump. He appears to have a long history of building a cash reserve based on defaulting creditors. My understanding is that the only thing saving him at the moment is his political position, with creditors are in no doubt he'll use his position to strike against those he owes money to, it's a house of cards that somebody will end up paying for and history says it won't be RedTrump.

I'd almost guarantee once enough people are signed up he'll have RedTrump coin added to the certified safe investment list.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by DJC -
I cant see wealthy families investing money for their kids in a scheme that invests in ETF's that track the index etc and produces modest returns inline with what the S&P500 returns each year...

Maybe EB, but $742K isn’t bad return on $90K over 18 years, if Taco’s number crunchers have got their sums right.

If wealthy families won’t invest, it’s dead in the water because most families won’t be able to afford to.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Economists don't seem too impressed with Taco Accounts.

Despite its limited life - children born in the next three years - the US economy simply doesn't have the capacity to fund the direct fiscal cost of over $3 billion per year and the money will most likely have to be borrowed. While these payments are a direct cost to the US government, they are a benefit to the lenders through interest. In other words, the payments and receipts cancel each other out.

However, the $1,000 grant is just a redistribution from taxpayers and lenders to newborns, and is neutral in terms of efficiency. The opportunity costs are not neutral though; when the US government borrows, it issues bonds. The investors who buy those bonds aren't investing that money in other, more critical areas of the economy like infrastructure, health, education, housing, energy, etc.

The affordability crisis means that the vast majority of American families won't be able to make contributions.  Most beneficiaries will receive $1,000 plus 18 years of compound interest and the administration reckons that will be worth $15,000.  The administration calculates that children from families that can afford to invest the maximum will have $742,000.  In other words, "It will make wealth inequality significantly worse, because it favors those who have resources to begin with,” according to David Radcliffe, from The New School’s Institute on Race, Power, and Political Economy.

William Darity, an economist at Duke University, says "Allowing those who are richer to put more in than those who are poor runs counter to any notion that there's any kind of redistributive justice taking place.”  And this is an economy where the bottom 50% of American households hold just 2.5% of the wealth.





I cant see wealthy families investing money for their kids in a scheme that invests in ETF's that track the index etc and produces modest returns inline with what the S&P500 returns each year...
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by PaulP -
Economists don't seem too impressed with Taco Accounts.

Despite its limited life - children born in the next three years - the US economy simply doesn't have the capacity to fund the direct fiscal cost of over $3 billion per year and the money will most likely have to be borrowed. While these payments are a direct cost to the US government, they are a benefit to the lenders through interest. In other words, the payments and receipts cancel each other out.

However, the $1,000 grant is just a redistribution from taxpayers and lenders to newborns, and is neutral in terms of efficiency. The opportunity costs are not neutral though; when the US government borrows, it issues bonds. The investors who buy those bonds aren't investing that money in other, more critical areas of the economy like infrastructure, health, education, housing, energy, etc.

The affordability crisis means that the vast majority of American families won't be able to make contributions.  Most beneficiaries will receive $1,000 plus 18 years of compound interest and the administration reckons that will be worth $15,000.  The administration calculates that children from families that can afford to invest the maximum will have $742,000.  In other words, "It will make wealth inequality significantly worse, because it favors those who have resources to begin with,” according to David Radcliffe, from The New School’s Institute on Race, Power, and Political Economy.

William Darity, an economist at Duke University, says "Allowing those who are richer to put more in than those who are poor runs counter to any notion that there's any kind of redistributive justice taking place.”  And this is an economy where the bottom 50% of American households hold just 2.5% of the wealth.

Lol. Who would've expected that. A policy for show.