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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 17 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by LP -
Tonight we saw the pointless nature of counting hit outs, because if you look at these stats in a year or so you'd probably think Pitto won on the night.
But excluding Hewett, I'd probably have Nankervis and Bolta as 2 of the 3 best on the ground.

But we shouldn't be shocked about this, we just have to go into games with open eyes and an open mind. If you put on the navy blue glasses you'll be disappointed because you be shuttering your eyes to our weakness. Look at the result this way, we were smashed in the ruck, smashed at stoppages and smashed around the ground, the stats might not clearly show it. But we won, despite Cripps, Walsh and Cerra being soundly defeated. Jagga was probably a break even, and Hewett was a win.

Last week we saw some of the early signs of the pre-Fraser Carlton starting to poke it's head out, last night was another step backwards. I hate that this happened but I predicted it, and I predicted Nankervis having that influence, because he's a poison to our Mids. This isn't about OH or Cottrell being in, Acres  or Weiters being out, that is just correlation. It's about the team starting to sit back and hesitate, waiting for the person next to them to do the hard work.

Go back and watch the replay, count how many times two blues get to the footy first and spend precious moments staring deeply into each other's eyes waiting for someone to pick up and give them the footy. The exact opposite of Fraser's "play so we look like a team you'd want to play for!" Partly this is a Nankervis / Balta aggression effect.

Sam Mitchell won't miss this fact, and you can expect next week the Dawks will be in full bruiser mode after that disastrous first half against the Dees.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 17 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Back from the game and not particularly happy. We got the win, but...

[1] I don't want to bag the umpires, but they hurt us tonight. I think we got one holding the ball for the night, and we were lucky to get that one (we kicked a goal from it). The non-free to H ... No, I don't want to go there.

[2] One ruckman works until it doesn't.
I've been happy to have Pitto as #1 banana, with H giving him a chop out, as have most of us. But tonight we didn't have a plan B against Nankervis, who almost won the game for them with his total dominance. Pitto took a couple of good marks, but his inability to even nullify Nankervis almost cost us the match.
I would bring Riley in. He was good today. Hawthorn have two bono fides rucks, and they usually play well against us.
Melbourne showed what a team cam do to Hawthorn when they get thrashed in the ruck. We need to do that next week.
It was one of the reasons why many of our mids were relatively down tonight; they couldn't get first possession.

[3] Nick Haynes come on down!
After probably losing us the game in Rd 1 last year, Nick Haynes was the reason we won it this time. He was magnificent, with 10 marks and 17 disposals. He read the ball in the air really well and didn't fumble.
Kudos also goes to Wade Derksen, who did a great job all night.
For that matter, Lewis Young was playing one of his best games when he was concussed.

[4] Our list lacks talls:
When Young went off, McGovern had to go back. he was pretty good down there, but it really robbed us of forward options. We had nobody to take a grab in the forward line, with Kemp well beaten after half time. Kemp was good early, but after half time, he barely touched it.

[5] Ollie Hollands had a shocker:
We probably made a mistake bringing Hollands in. He was very good before he got injured, but he really struggled tonight. Acres would have been more effective.
We might not drop him though, hoping the run will do him good.
Jack Ison probably needs to go back as well, as he is now fumbling and second guessing himself. Give him a week or two to get his confidence back and he will do what is required.

[6] Jagga Smith and George Hewett:
Both had strong game, particularly considering how badly Pitto was being beaten. George had 26 disposals, 9 tackles, 2 goals and 4 clearances. Jagga had 29 disposals, 5 tackles and 4 clearances. They were huge.
Spot on Crash. nicely and accurately summed up. The non free to H was terrible but we did get the goal from the stoppage that resulted.
The Hayne penalty over the goal line was a disgrace by the ump. That would have lost us the game if the margin was less than 6, why wasnt it reviewed at least? I thought the umps put the whistle away after that last ball up.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 17 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by Sexybronco -
Are the revisionists going to tell us we are remarkably different under Fraser?



Of course we are...........2 points worse!!  :)
We are playing a better game style based on the revised ball movement and positional changes for some players, we’ve also benefited from the improved form of our mature recruits who took a little time (understandably) to find their feet. Fraser has continued to say we have a lot of work to do which I think we all agree is right, more talent is also need in the ruck and forward line. Let’s hope this is the start of a resurrection of sorts irrespective of who our next coach is as the continued cycle of mediocrity we’ve experienced  has us all fatigued and frustrated.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 17 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by Baggers -
Back from the game and not particularly happy. We got the win, but...

[1] I don't want to bag the umpires, but they hurt us tonight. I think we got one holding the ball for the night, and we were lucky to get that one (we kicked a goal from it). The non-free to H ... No, I don't want to go there.

[2] One ruckman works until it doesn't.
I've been happy to have Pitto as #1 banana, with H giving him a chop out, as have most of us. But tonight we didn't have a plan B against Nankervis, who almost won the game for them with his total dominance. Pitto took a couple of good marks, but his inability to even nullify Nankervis almost cost us the match.
I would bring Riley in. He was good today. Hawthorn have two bono fides rucks, and they usually play well against us.
Melbourne showed what a team cam do to Hawthorn when they get thrashed in the ruck. We need to do that next week.
It was one of the reasons why many of our mids were relatively down tonight; they couldn't get first possession.

[3] Nick Haynes come on down!
After probably losing us the game in Rd 1 last year, Nick Haynes was the reason we won it this time. He was magnificent, with 10 marks and 17 disposals. He read the ball in the air really well and didn't fumble.
Kudos also goes to Wade Derksen, who did a great job all night.
For that matter, Lewis Young was playing one of his best games when he was concussed.

[4] Our list lacks talls:
When Young went off, McGovern had to go back. he was pretty good down there, but it really robbed us of forward options. We had nobody to take a grab in the forward line, with Kemp well beaten after half time. Kemp was good early, but after half time, he barely touched it.

[5] Ollie Hollands had a shocker:
We probably made a mistake bringing Hollands in. He was very good before he got injured, but he really struggled tonight. Acres would have been more effective.
We might not drop him though, hoping the run will do him good.
Jack Ison probably needs to go back as well, as he is now fumbling and second guessing himself. Give him a week or two to get his confidence back and he will do what is required.

[6] Jagga Smith and George Hewett:
Both had strong game, particularly considering how badly Pitto was being beaten. George had 26 disposals, 9 tackles, 2 goals and 4 clearances. Jagga had 29 disposals, 5 tackles and 4 clearances. They were huge.

Nice stuff, Captain.

What an ordinary game. Umpiring standard continues to decline - blatant kicking in danger (favouring us) missed in the middle and a late hit on Jagga after disposing of the ball, also missed. H getting his arms chopped with a front on tackle  -- eyes not on the ball -- which even stopped all the players. Just to mention a few howlers.

As you mentioned, Captain, I hope Ollie H is better for the run because his impact was zilch and when he has ball in hand I get very nervous... his disposals can't be trusted.

The Frase audition starts now. Let's see how we do against the Dorks and Rottingwood over the coming fortnight.