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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide
Last post by LP -
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Thilthorpe had a pretty ordinary game but still had twice as many disposals, twice as many marks and double his supercoach score.
Harry was poor last night.
Thilthorpe was paid marks for attempts that were less than what H was called to play on for, multiple times one of them at the top of the goal square was seconds after the very same mark had been denied to H on the wing, and that's not counting the chest mark Thilthorpe was paid that basically come off the ruckmen's fingers, yet no Review. In the end even BT became embarrassed about it which forced him to later utter his "umpires have become lenient" remark, and BT hates us with a passion, he was probably holding back a giggle as he said it. I think at one stage, I can't recall if it was Fox or 7 because I've watched one live and the other as a replay, said something like "They better hurry up and kick before the review happens."

btw., I thought the AFL was supposed to be reviewing the whole scoring chain in 2026!

Nothing but silence on Haynes taking the footy in the air over the boundary line, goal Crows, imagine if that had happened to Pendles or Dangerflog, it would be front page news.

None of this is a conscious decision being made by anyone, it's the result of subconscious anticipation of events, and we're fostering that environment.

Shhh, don't mention the war!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide
Last post by Lods -
One of the interesting features of this thread is that there are some very different assessments of individuals.

If Harry had marked everything he got his hands to last night he would have just about set league marking record.
And that's the thing.
Do we praise him for leading up and presenting well, or do we criticise him for not taking possession.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Not as bad as Florent who had another 7 turnovers and is the leading turnover merchant in the comp.
His disposal is killing us and we got sold a lemon by the Swans...
I know he had two bad clangers at critical times, but 7 turnovers isn't a genuine thing, I think you are exposing some bias.

Even if he did he was far from our worst, I'd be more focussed on the spectators than the blokes winning the footy and not using it. For example, Boyd went into full terrier mode, running around the back of the big dogs barking like a goalkeeper snapping at heels from behind, while leaving SF opponents free to snap goals from front and square roving. You know front and square, the basics, the very same thing absent from H's contests at the other end!
Leading the turnover count in the comp and calling it bias and nothing to worry about is a bit like saying Erin Patterson had a bad day in the kitchen when she knocked off her inlaws.
Florent was brought in to improve our run and carry off half back not make it worse and we now have him on a long term contract.
This is what happens when you get ok role players from good clubs then expect them to be able to lift the standard at lesser struggling clubs ie Florent and Haywood and they get exposed at their new club.
I never thought much of Dean Cox as a coach but he has played us like a fiddle...
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide
Last post by LP -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Not as bad as Florent who had another 7 turnovers and is the leading turnover merchant in the comp.
His disposal is killing us and we got sold a lemon by the Swans...
I know he had two bad clangers at critical times, but 7 turnovers isn't a genuine thing, I think you are exposing some bias.

Even if he did he was far from our worst, I'd be more focussed on the spectators than the blokes winning the footy and not using it. For example, Boyd went into full terrier mode, running around the back of the big dogs barking like a goalkeeper snapping at heels from behind, while leaving SF opponents free to snap goals from front and square roving. You know front and square, the basics, the very same thing absent from H's contests at the other end!

If we had Rankine and Rachele do we think they'd be absent from the front and square on H?

For me this started years ago, fans and media turned Charlie into a hero for being Joe the Goose and snapping cheap goals off the back of the pack, now we have an entire list of forwards who all think they can do the same!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: Professer E – on
And another bloke who gets away with it on this site is Cerra.  Sure the numbers look ok, but when can anybody ever remember him cutting a side up or being damaging?  150 AFL games...when are we going to see what we paid for?
Not as bad as Florent who had another 7 turnovers and is the leading turnover merchant in the comp.
His disposal is killing us and we got sold a lemon by the Swans...
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide
Last post by LP -
Quote from: Professer E – on
I think his resilience is underated given the way he continues to front up with the numpties "delivering" the ball to him.
Our running HBFs and BPs miss targets on barely legal kick lengths kicking form the open when the target is 5m in the clear, and we miss 35m targets by 5m on running disposals.

Our opponents kick better than that from inside stoppages.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide
Last post by Professer E -
Gees I reckon Harry gets tough treatment, fancy being a marking forward on a wet night, fronting the worst ball using side in memory.
For example, last week,  "Mensa" Hayward, under minimal pressure, gets clear at half forward and misses Harry by metres when he has his opponent cold....not once but Twice.  Yes, I know it was last week but clear example of what Harry has to deal with. I think his resilience is underated given the way he continues to front up with the numpties "delivering" the ball to him. 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide
Last post by LP -
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Harry was better in the last term but he was close to worst on ground for the first 3 quarters.
Sorry, but he wasn't out marked once that I can recall, and was continually flying against 2 or 3 opponents in non-ideal conditions for KPPs.

In terms of game impact the difference between H and Thilthorpe wasn't that great on the night, but Thilthorpe had below average opponents and mates blocking for him to get a free run at every opportunity. In that respect, Young didn't do such a bad job and most of our blokes got stuck one on one. Furthermore, give H someone like Tex to work besides and the scenario changes dramatically.