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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by Thryleon -
On the post game celebrations,  we have some young kids tasting their first win in navy blue.

Perhaps we are trying to focus on the wins rather than the negatives because living in that space is rather depressing.

Weve been doing it for a long time.  Weve been flaky for a long time.  We wont turn that around in one off season.  The sad part is, we finished last year having turned the corner in that regard.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by Gointocarlton -
how Bad is our recruiting first sos and now nick Austin 
Is it the recruiting? Is it the coach?, is it both? or is the off field not right so the onfield will never be right?
You never know with Carlton as its a game of snakes and ladders just up and down, no one can be definitive on what is the major problem. As Clarkson recently said its hard to drag a bottomed out club back up the ladder and we have tried or copied every method and now are in the Collingwood premiership year moneyball plan where we have made a number of list changes on the cheap to initiate change of game style in contrast to fellow perennial strugglers Stkilda who have sold the farm to change their fortunes. There doesnt seem to be a one size plan that fits all that guarantees success....

How do you solve a problem like Carlton (sung to the old Sound of Music song)?
There is no club like ours, EOS. Our problems are deep rooted, our history is there for all to see. Pick a topic and we trump everyone.
- We have the equal most premierships, we were once the kings of the jungle.
- We cheated the salary like no other and like we were above the law, we paid the price.
- We have had rich benefactor board members who have treated the club like their play thing. Presidents who were billionaires and mixed with kings, presidents and shieks.
- We have had more coaches since around 2003 than almost every team. We have sacked legends of the game in the blink of an eye.
- We have had some of the biggest recruiting coups in VFL/AFL history (Barassi, Judd to name the biggest).
- We have had favourite sons come and go (and come back again only to leave unceremoniously).
- We have lost players to the biggest deals in history.
- We didnt have a wooden spoon until 2002, since then we have won 5. This is only category of things we are the best at.
- Our high profile supporters have consisted of Australia's greatest prime ministers and the world's greatest music stars.
- We used to have a positive winning record agains EVERYONE.
- Our Club had the most reps in the AFL TOC, our club has been represented by the best players to play the game.
All the above creates pressure, some can handle it, many can't (players, coaches, board members, supporters).
All the above creates rivalry because every team dreamed about being us, now that they the they want to kick us when we are down and make sure we stay down (players, coaches, board members, supporters).
So here we are again, on the ropes with the world against us.
Challenge accepted...again.
Despite what I say and type from time to time, I love you CFC with all my heart and soul, always have, always will.
Go Blues.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by Blue Moon -
Not sure Fogarty can hold his place after missing that goaThe fact Carlton didn't give up forced Richmond to win and they faulted. You can win from in front, you can win coming from behind or you can win in a topsy-turvy game, but in the end it is who wins that count. Carlton tends to fear winning so not giving up is a first step in developing a winning culture.
With Smith and Lord I am not sure what Cripps role is in the midfield. In the past he has been the one who has hunted the ball. With Walker coming next year and Walsh how do all the parts fit together.
I think they need to back in what they are doing and keep running and be willing to take the hand ball receives.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by BlackRooster -
I remember when we used to be a great / feared club and we would win these ugly games everyone was relived and happy.  Now that we are irrelevant and kind of a joke amongst the AFL, we are now complaining about winning. Not sure what to take away from last night except for that we will not be selling the farm to get Cody Walker.

Enough from me.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by Lods -


Im the opposite - i have no fear no expectation anymore.

I know where we sit and any win this season will be hard earnt and apart from the bottom 3 sides of WC, North and Rich we wont be troubling any of the teams above and will be some big hidings as well in this season.

This is basically what ive been saying all b offseason.

People need to lower their expectations this year. Do that and your mental health will thank you.

Some players will improve.
Some players will get worse.
Some players will get injured.
Some players will retire.

Overall, our list is weaker, and all other things being equal, our results will be worse.
Sure a great run with injuries may help, but looking at our current injury list, that looks unlikely.

So expect poor results and youll sleep at night.

Now, doesnt mean we need to blow up the place. With some young additions and extra draft picks banked....i expect to improve in a year or 2.....just not now.

.....that is of course if we can hold our crap together and not blow up the place in the meantime......which im not confident on, but if everyone lowered expectations itd be more likely.

You know that won't happen.
 ;)  :D

The season will go one of two ways.
We'll improve  or by mid season the coach will be informed he won't be requires for 2027.

You see even if we enter the season optimistic we don't necessarily 'lose sleep' or worry excessively over results. It's a whole of season approach. The knowledge that if it goes pear shaped things won't be the same next year with a new coach and a new approach, and we start again...not from scratch, because we have some good youth.

Alternatively things start to gel and after a shaky start we come home like a house on fire.
Lapses become a thing of the past and Voss gets an extension.



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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by Baggers -
Perspective. We went into that game with everything to lose, and the Tiggers went into the game with nothing to lose.

We were also copping a pile-on from critics, media and disgruntled, loud fans.

We're also changing game style. And positional changes for some.

We're also blooding many newbies.

We also had a few critical passengers, Chesser, Fogarty and Ollie in particular, last night.

When serious pressure comes, individuals and groups, 'resort to type.' For years this has been on display... third qtr debacles the resultant symptom. That's going to take time, plenty of time, to eradicate. Moving from sh*tting yourself under pressure to inviting and being hungry for pressure is a great task and shift. Between the lugholes. I saw a small step forward in that final qtr. The goal would be to thrive on pressure.

I really don't feel as negative as many. We're a work in progress to change many bad habits and create many great habits. This is a new Carlton and a big paradigm shift. Starting again, in some respects. We'll know so much more in a month or two, so, personally my expectations are shelved ...so as to see, objectively, how we're progressing well down the track.

Our boys needed that win, and got it. Yes, a 'great escape' but a win nonetheless. Any side with their collective tails up is hard to beat.
I was expecting a big rebound,we had the advantage of already playing one game unlike the Tigers who were having their first hit out. A media pile on should have generated a real response but that lasted a quarter and our second half was putrid.
Celebrating that win vs a bunch of kids and  and carrying on like we were premiers was something a bottom team would do.
Robert Walls would have had the boxing  gloves out this week...it's just hard watching a Carlton team struggling to play a decent brand and now acting like a bottom club as well.

Going back to enable moving forward sure is tough to endure as a supporter, especially after years of finals expectations. Seems quite apparent that, at this stage, we do not have finals aspirations.

It seems to me the club has a strategy to move the on-field game into the modern era, after years of falling short for all manner of reasons. The focus is on the 'new' and probably having a good look at the list capable of delivering on this 'new.'

I get that players celebrating enthusiastically an unimpressive win is galling. But understandable to give the group something to feel good about. They need to feel good about themselves, for something, for anything! I'm sure all the players and coaches are not content with the manner of our win for one moment.

After 2 games, we're not contenders. But a lot can change in a long season.