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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by crashlander -
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You have to ask what was he doing on the field? We have all this focus on concussion and looking for symptoms, passing tests etc and Elijah clearly wasn't right and even the general public could see he needed help  yet he is allowed to continue.
The AFL should investigate both player and club as it was a serious breach of care imo.
Put yourself in the parents position seeing your son in that state on a football field and it should never happen again...
My only conclusion today EB is that the medical staff thought it best he be out there with his team mates. Up until 3/4 time he spent 84% TOG. They rested him in the forth and ended up on 60%.
That is probably the answer, they thought it would help him. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have been the correct call.
The question then is obvious: was there a better option? Who decides?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Gointocarlton -
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Looks like it was a mental health issue. Heart rate very elevated throughput the game, sleeping an issue. Looks like one issue we have to be sensitive the way we approach it. Looks like it's a real issue. Not sure if he is manic/depressive and we got a manic episode last night. As I said,  I remember Rhett Baynes.
You have to ask what was he doing on the field? We have all this focus on concussion and looking for symptoms, passing tests etc and Elijah clearly wasn't right and even the general public could see he needed help  yet he is allowed to continue.
The AFL should investigate both player and club as it was a serious breach of care imo.
Put yourself in the parents position seeing your son in that state on a football field and it should never happen again...
My only conclusion today EB is that the medical staff thought it best he be out there with his team mates. Up until 3/4 time he spent 84% TOG. They rested him in the forth and ended up on 60%.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by LP -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
You have to ask what was he doing on the field?
I know I've piled on about our headspace issues as a team, but this is just another example that there is something horribly wrong with our sports psychology and health departments.

We are a professional organisation, we probably have tens of university-trained professionals circulating among the players pre-game, and yet EH ends up out there!

I feel the chance that they all failed to notice something is negligible.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by kruddler -
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I agree Lods. The math ain't mathin' wrt Elijah. There's clearly more to the story than meets the eye.

As to the game, another one where we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. A kid barely out of nappies misses 2 shots on goal, the best player in the comp needs to put on a clinic to get his team over the line, we had one player looking out of sorts, and we lose by 5 points to a coach who is supposedly a master motivator and master tactician.

The only reasonable conclusion from this is that we need a new football department. In fact, I would implore the club to create two new football departments, just to be on the safe side.

Best we do a complete cleanout to be sure.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Gointocarlton -
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HTF did it take to late in the last quarter from them to think maybe there is an issue here.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXNV9wrk_wY/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Someone in the stands took this video of the pre-game warm-up, how that slipped through the net beggars belief. 

I watch him in the warm up in the centre when they were practicing ball ups, he had a white vest on and went to handball over his head and completely missed the football. That is totally unlike him. Now that I think back to the Sydney game, didnt he grubber the ball about three times? I remember thinking his foot must be jabbed up due to some sort of injury.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: laj – on
Looks like it was a mental health issue. Heart rate very elevated throughput the game, sleeping an issue. Looks like one issue we have to be sensitive the way we approach it. Looks like it's a real issue. Not sure if he is manic/depressive and we got a manic episode last night. As I said,  I remember Rhett Baynes.
You have to ask what was he doing on the field? We have all this focus on concussion and looking for symptoms, passing tests etc and Elijah clearly wasn't right and even the general public could see he needed help  yet he is allowed to continue.
The AFL should investigate both player and club as it was a serious breach of care imo.
Put yourself in the parents position seeing your son in that state on a football field and it should never happen again...
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by LordLucifer -
Quote from: shawny – on
HTF did it take to late in the last quarter from them to think maybe there is an issue here.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXNV9wrk_wY/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Someone in the stands took this video of the pre-game warm-up, how that slipped through the net beggars belief. 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by LP -
Quote from: shawny – on
Addiction is a mental health issue im told. Just a nicer way of saying it
In fairness, addiction is more often than not the consequence of a long series of problems and events, it's rarely the root cause of a problem but a futile attempt to escape from it. That is why it's often starts with and is identified as mental health.

It's no good guessing about last night.

A while back I talked about scary trends in football, from amateur to professional ranks blokes are/were taking high dose paracetamol 1 - 2 hours before games. Pre-emptive self-medication because it stops the pain from in game collisions. But it leads to problems after the game, the AFL don't talk about it but it's endemic and has been for at least two decades. fwiw, It's endemic in rugby as well and most collision based professional sports. A famous past player has even talked about it in the media and it's just glossed over. The professional sports take it even further, handing out prescription only jabs to numb painful conditions. What happens the night after the game when these things wear off?