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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Back to the Moon
Last post by Thryleon -
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what part of is it indulgent did you not understand?

I think you missed the point mate. There are many different types of fuels in the world and the one they are using is the most abundant - hydrogen.

In fact, I'm sure that the technology used in such missions is exactly the type of research and development we need more of to solve our energy crisis here on earth.

If we have an issue with resources, the best way around that is to use the most abundant in the universe.... which is exactly what they are using and what we are trying to get up and running.

So ironically, you answered your own question.
so fuel aside, which im happy to say i got incorrect the spaceship is built on hopes and dreams? 

What are goals of the mission?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
We dominated in the ruck with Pittonet and Xerri missing but couldnt take advantage in the clearance/stoppages, you add in the spud factor that Nth have especially down back with Corr, Pink and Comden and I felt we let the game slip away.
Nth are quick just like Essendon are quick but they are not very good as they showed scraping by over Essendon in an error ridden game the previous week and play an error ridden game like we do. Its disappointing to lose to a poor team like Nth and to even be in the situation where we are hanging on, we really should have put them away properly and won comfortably as they were not playing well enough to win.
I noticed the stats were fairly similar except in the marks inside 50 which were 14 -7 in favour of Nth and when I looked at the season stats I see Nth have had 58 marks inside 50 to our 31 in with both teams playing the four games.
We either dont have the method to create marking opportunities for our forwards or we dont have the players capable of taking marks which might be explained with losing Charlie and to a lesser extent TDK.
We cant expect to kick all our goals from stoppages or opposition errors like we saw today and id question if the players have already reverted back to the old bomb it long strategy. Also way to much fiddling with the ball, Hewett in particular goes back every time to take his kick and is way to slow to dispose of the ball.
Ainsworth was serviceable working up the field more, Hayward was terrible and Florent showed us again why Cox had him in the twos. Newman did ok in his return match and was solid, Cowan defended well at times, Derksen had a tough first game....Duursma and Trembath are talented kids and he got a bit lost at times but he did some ok things as well.
Boyd looked a bit rusty after such a long break but used the ball well and Id persist with him....
Kemp kicked 3 goals but I remain doubtful on his future as our Full Forward and I think its a position Id be recruiting for next trade/draft period. Harry played a typical Harry game, couple of goals, some marks further up the ground but never really influential enough to move the dial. Cripps, Hewett and Walsh were mediocre over all and I gave Cerra a pass seeing its his first game back and he probably needs another month of solid footy.
Hollands boys had a good third quarter and Ollie tried hard all day, Elijah teased with some classy stuff but he has no defensive game and a couple of his contests were average especially one half hearted spoil in the last quarter and we cant afford that.
The list needs major renovation and the captain and in particular the coach look defeated from those last shots of him on the boundary line and we need a catalyst of some sort to break the cycle of losses and team malaise.
The Crows losing tonight vs Freo wont make it any easier next game and with Weitering missing with concussion its looking like being another very tough task.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Back to the Moon
Last post by kruddler -
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Are you worried about the amount of 91 ron required to achieve the mission ?
what part of is it indulgent did you not understand?

I think you missed the point mate. There are many different types of fuels in the world and the one they are using is the most abundant - hydrogen.

In fact, I'm sure that the technology used in such missions is exactly the type of research and development we need more of to solve our energy crisis here on earth.

If we have an issue with resources, the best way around that is to use the most abundant in the universe.... which is exactly what they are using and what we are trying to get up and running.

So ironically, you answered your own question.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by shawny -
Our senior group are not on field leaders and have no tactical nous at all when late in the game we need an experienced head. Cripps drop off is alarming and cant play after half time as his lack of leg speed when hes tired absolutely burns us. He was never fast but he looks so far off the pace this year.

Hewitt and even Cerra are only marginaly better and the last quarter when LDU ran out of the centre with Cerra hot on his tail and just kept pulling away and he is not known for his speed speaks volumnes about how much lack of leg speed is destroying us yet we did sfa to address it which is so disappointing.

Pit is having a great year and probably leading our B&F but losing TDK has hurt us and i said it last year that his loss would affect us more then charlie as his loss madean already slow group even slower.

There is so much wrong with the list we have no option but to start again.

Apart from lack of midfield speed we have no tall support for Weitering no good using attacking ball users off half back, no geniune key forwards pls dont say harry or Kemp are both are clueless in their roles. We have numerous small forwards yet none would get a game in any of the top teams.

And every one knows my feeling on the coach.

Many more years of pain is ahead folks and based on our track record i have no confidence at all we will do it correctly this time around but we have no option now.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Back to the Moon
Last post by crashlander -
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Does anyone else see a manned trip to orbit the moon as indulgent?  What are we hoping to achieve out of it?
The future.
Our planet has limited resources and a biosphere that we are pushing. The rest of our system has more resources than we can ever use, and we're too stupid to go and get them.
[1] It rains hydrocarbons on Titan.
[2] There is more water in the Saturn's rings than on Earth by a factor of 100.
[3] Mining asteroids is easier than mining on a planet's surface. The stuff is easier to access and you don't have to worry about an environment to damage.
[4] The Sun puts out more energy in a day than we can use in a century, and we use less than 0.00001 % of it.

I could go on for a lot longer.
This particular mission is mainly testing stuff for future missions. But the idea is not just to visit the moon, but to use its resources. It has plenty of them. That is the future, and this is just one small step.

Anyone who considers space and indulgent is not thinking about the future. Our future is out there! And the sooner we embrace it, the better!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by Thryleon -
We did it again.

We were trying to lock the game down, and we executed that tactic poorly.

Players hard up against the boundary kicking it out when they should have been wearing pressure and taking the tackle over.  Result out of bounds on the full. 

Pittonet trying to hit the ball out of a pack when we should have been clogging it.  We want repeat stoppages not open it up in the last.

We try to play on quick, and then errant handball rushed kick turnover and then cough up what should have been a comfortable enough 4 quarter win with a slight challenge into a loss that will leave psychological scars.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by crashlander -
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Umpiring was terrible today, 2 weeks in a row we have copped some bad ones in the last quarter.
I wish I could just blame the umpires: they were diabolical. Front on contact ignored, players tripped, guys diving on your back: I could go on, the the litany was considerable. But, in the end, if we were good enough, we wouldn't have lost.

[1] We get out-coached very week and I really hate it.
North had a plan for Cripps and it worked. But with him so thoroughly tagged, did we change the midfield group? No. Just not smart.

[2] Our players are not smart.
Time and again, we make the wrong decisions. Or we do something moronic. Hayworth's giving away goals was simply unacceptable. He needs to be dropped for that.

[3] Our players do not want it enough.
I hate writing this, but it is probably understating the case. When it mattered, our boys didn't want the ball enough: North's guys did.
And when it came for our defenders to punch, it just didn't happen. Too many players not doing enough, not putting on any pressure, not making it difficult for their opponents to get the ball.

[4] Our structure:
Weitering gave Larkey the biggest bath of the season, which was nice. But who other, of our defenders, can say they made a difference?
Our team lacks decent key position players, which was so obvious when you look at our 2's. So, why do we not bother with them?
Our players often don't have advantageous matchups.
And do we have people to kick the ball to? God, no!
Our match-ups don't make sense and help us lose.

[5] Our game plan:
I don't want to go over this again in detail, but I am tired of our guys not making space, not offering leads, not running, not moving the ball quickly and intelligently.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by Gointocarlton -
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Time to make some serious statements at selection. Don't care how big the names are.
Cody Walker would need to be the best mid in the draft otherwise I'd overlook him - we need to totally rebuild the centre square group. 
Florent and Hayward are taking the pi$$
ive been trying to remain calm but after today, it became obvious to me at least, that the senior players are not winning us games that are in the balance, they are costing us games. The most senior of players being the prime offender.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 3 2026 Carlton vs North Melbourne at Arden St.
Last post by crashlander -
Fair dinkum, we are a rabble at the moment. Very disappointing to give up a second winnable game, just like the seniors.

[1] North had 5 of the top 7 possession getters. Yet, do we tag any of them? Not quite a rhetorical question, as we don't use our brains in the seniors, but you understand where I'm coming from.

[2] Liam Reidy so dominated the ruck that it wasn't funny. He had 14 clearances, more than any three other players. And he had 30 taps, better than any two other players. Yet, with a spot in the seniors up for grab, he does something stupid.  :'(  :'(  ???
O'Keefe, on the other hand, seems to have lost all confidence. He didn't get a lot of taps, 8 only, and had less than 10 possessions. I don't know what is wrong with him, but he needs some sort of help. He is just so much better than that.

[3] Ison: 3 goals 2, from 8 possessions. Not sure what to think, but he can do so much more.

[4] Flynn Young should be in the seniors: 21 possessions, 3 goals 2 and 11 marks.
Considering the way some of our smaller players are going at the moment, he should be in. Hayworth, Ainsworth, Frankie Evans: any of these could go back. Frankie hasn't been right since he was injured. He needs to get his confidence back.

[5] Neither Cottrell nor Chesser did anything to impress. 13 possessions each and no scores. Very disappointing, considering what we were hoping to get from them.
Lachie Fogarty: little better. He had 15 possessions and a goal. He has to go.

I'm not seeing the desire, I'm not seeing the commitment, I'm not seeing the game plan and I'm not seeing the any sign of things turning around.
I've got nothing else to say until after I digest the replay. Not looking forward to it.