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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by LP -
So Lord is the new whipping for no good reason?

In reality Lord is not really opposed to the likes of Heeney or Warner, and to suggest he's got to be in the same league to avoid a verbal barrage is a tad unrealistic.

Our problem remains ball use, has been for several seasons. It's easy to focus on the B-Graders, but our very best are never going to keep up when they turn it over and it's no use our best pointing fingers when they give off hospital passes and / or miss targets by hand and foot.

We basically run ourselves into the ground in the first half trying to fix up our own errors, our skills are deplorable, and the opposition know if they force us into a long enough chain of disposal we'll fork it up. Because of our team's average lack of pace, we actually have to be better skilled than the opposition not just on a par, in reality we are sub-par.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by laj -
Quote from: MickyO – on
Not a fan of what Dan replayed nor what Doc said.
Stinks of laying into the coach which is unhelpful at this stage. Makes Doc seem disgruntled imo and yea Dan is good mates with those that left last year.

Not cool.
I'm happy to hear it. We complain when we get cliche crap so when we hear something straight up like this we can't complain. Don't worry about shooting the messenger, what about the message. Nothing we didn't know but interesting hearing it from someone inside. Guessing he thought that wasn't going to go to air so expressed his view as you do between two mates.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: kruddler – on


There is the navy blue glasses i speak of.

Cerra....
2020, 2021, 2022 - best 22 under 22
2020-2023, 2025 - top 10 B+F (2024 - 4-5 hamstrings)
2020, 2025 - top 3 in B+F

FYI, in 2020, Cerra was 20.

Lord....
*crickets*

Lord was 20 in 2025.


Again, i've got nothing against him, not everyone will be superstars. I just think he needs to lift his game.....and zero tackles and poor disposal will not endear him to the MC.

The problem is you seem to want them all to be superstars.
It ain't happening.

If Lord was given  a job to do on a Sydney player and didn't do it, he may be in strife, otherwise he'll back up again next week.

FYI he had career high disposals and inside 50s on Thursday night...so yep..he's on the improve.

Its not what Lord was doing imo its what his opponents were doing and that applies to Cripps, Hewett, Walsh and Smith as a collective. The collective got fried after halftime and the reality is the Swans have their superstars in the middle of the ground and you have to have the quality to match them and we dont because our mids cant defend.
You look at Gold Coast and we will have similar problems with Anderson, Rowell, Miller, and now Petracca, its going to be more of the same as what we faced with the Swans, we need more two way players in the middle, those first three GC players rack up the possies but also can defend and rack up the tackle numbers and are quality users/finishers.
The Cripps, Hewett, Walsh one way contested only setup isnt going to deliver consistent results and will fail vs quality two way players. Lord is a two way player but isnt at the same level as those I have discussed but he is a good B grade player who does his job but he isnt there to compete vs Heeney, Warner, Anderson, Rowell etc thats Cripps, Hewett, Walsh and then Smith/Walker down the track...
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: kruddler – on


There is the navy blue glasses i speak of.

Cerra....
2020, 2021, 2022 - best 22 under 22
2020-2023, 2025 - top 10 B+F (2024 - 4-5 hamstrings)
2020, 2025 - top 3 in B+F

FYI, in 2020, Cerra was 20.

Lord....
*crickets*

Lord was 20 in 2025.


Again, i've got nothing against him, not everyone will be superstars. I just think he needs to lift his game.....and zero tackles and poor disposal will not endear him to the MC.

The problem is you seem to want them all to be superstars.
It ain't happening.

If Lord was given  a job to do on a Sydney player and didn't do it, he may be in strife, otherwise he'll back up again next week.

FYI he had career high disposals and inside 50s on Thursday night...so yep..he's on the improve.

Sure, career highs in those areas, because Cerra wasn't there and he has increased minutes.
I'm not fussed about that, i'm watching what he is doing with it.

You put his numbers against Jagga.....watch the difference with ball in hand between those 2 and you'll see why those numbers are not the same like you make them out to be.

For the 423rd time, i'm not expecting him to be a superstar or be as good as any other individual. Just pointing out that he would not be as safe as you make out (long term).

Years gone by Adam Bentick was getting 30+ touches in a game. Averages 5 tackles in his career, up to 6 in his last couple years.
Ratten handed him the #7 as a bright young talent. But.....he was largely average. Not great by foot. Deemed not good enough. 2 years after he got the #7 handed to him, he was delisted.
I don't see anything in Lord that Bentick didn't have.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: PaulP – on
i read a few quotes from Chad Warner saying that Sydney went in with a specific plan of exploiting "our lack of outside run." I'd be curious to know why it took nearly 2.5 quarters to put this plan into effect.

There's a theory going around that they paced themselves in the first half and held a bit in reserve  absorbing the best we could throw at them. It was curious how they held Papley back. The commentators seem to know the minute he would be injected into the game.
We tired noticeably in  the third term and they ran over us. It seemed to align pretty much with Docherty's comments about how we play.
It was the number of interchanges the Swans wanted to make...they only made 23 in the first half and then made 52 after half time
to wear us down with fresh players. It was excellent coaching so Im not convinced Cox had anything to do with it, maybe Goodwin who was praised for his rotation management in 2021 when they won the premiership.
Unfortunately we dont have the innovation or nous in the coaches box imo to be over inventive which you need to be at times to give you an edge..
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: kruddler – on


There is the navy blue glasses i speak of.

Cerra....
2020, 2021, 2022 - best 22 under 22
2020-2023, 2025 - top 10 B+F (2024 - 4-5 hamstrings)
2020, 2025 - top 3 in B+F

FYI, in 2020, Cerra was 20.

Lord....
*crickets*

Lord was 20 in 2025.


Again, i've got nothing against him, not everyone will be superstars. I just think he needs to lift his game.....and zero tackles and poor disposal will not endear him to the MC.

The problem is you seem to want them all to be superstars.
It ain't happening.

If Lord was given  a job to do on a Sydney player and didn't do it, he may be in strife, otherwise he'll back up again next week.

FYI he had career high disposals and inside 50s on Thursday night...so yep..he's on the improve.

Lord ahead of Cerra???
Not in terms of ability but certainly in terms of reliability...which is what I stated.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by PaulP -
Quote from: Lods – on
There's a theory going around that they paced themselves in the first half and held a bit in reserve  absorbing the best we could throw at them. It was curious how they held Papley back. The commentators seem to know the minute he would be injected into the game.
We tired noticeably in  the third term and they ran over us. It seemed to align pretty much with Docherty's comments about how we play.

Seems like a very cocky and very risky strategy, but anyway, good luck to 'em.......

Still not sure if the problem is pace, fitness or planning/structure. The first implicates recruiting, the second fitness/development staff, and the third coaching.