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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by Thryleon -
Let me put this to you another way.

Is there a team that consistently has lost the games premier forwards like we have?

How about Tom Boyd, Liam Jones, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, Shaun Higgins, Caleb Daniel, Ryan Griffin, Josh Hill, Jarrad Grant, Jake Stringer?

As well as Callan Ward, Bailey Smith, Jack Macrae, Lewis Young, etc
are you seriously putting Lewis young in with the likes of Eddie betts? 

Bailey smith is the only one of those players that id put in the right company.  Ward and griffen too, but they arent the games star forwards, and left that long ago now it was when the giants were fledgling.  At that time we had tuohy and henderson leave but i dont put them in this conversation because why would you?  jamarra may never reach the dizzy heights scripted for him, sub 70 games played at the bulldogs and with sam darcy half fid them a favour as they had the lucury of seeing him go but perceptions are funny and perhaps mine is a bit off.

Even so, this trend of departures that we suffer with, just drives me spare.  Perhaps its a stability issue, perhaps something else but top draft picks, walk.  Last year we lost tdk, jsos and Charlie all in one go all in or around the prime of their careers.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by DJC -
Let me put this to you another way.

Is there a team that consistently has lost the games premier forwards like we have?

How about Tom Boyd, Liam Jones, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, Shaun Higgins, Caleb Daniel, Ryan Griffin, Josh Hill, Jarrad Grant, Jake Stringer?

As well as Callan Ward, Bailey Smith, Jack Macrae, Lewis Young, etc
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by shawny -


False perception!

The Bulldogs have stuck fat with Beveridge, but they’ve turned their list over as much as we have over the last few seasons.
Maybe, but I started wondering when they lost someone high profile to a competitor and im only coming in with a very much finished Luke dahlhaus. 

And Josh dunkley.


bailey smith goes ok. 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by Thryleon -
Let me put this to you another way.

Is there a team that consistently has lost the games premier forwards like we have?

Fevola, betts, waite, curnow.  All in what, 17 years? 

Waite's not in the same hemisphere as the rest, but the point remains that somehow we lose high profile players who are genuine stars of the competition somehow.


Ive left Josh Kennedy out of it because we had to give up something to get Judd.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by Gointocarlton -


False perception!

The Bulldogs have stuck fat with Beveridge, but they’ve turned their list over as much as we have over the last few seasons.
Maybe, but I started wondering when they lost someone high profile to a competitor and im only coming in with a very much finished Luke dahlhaus. 

And Josh dunkley.

Without any knowledge of the WB, it would appear the environment with Bevo and Grant was extremely toxic. Since Grant has gone, it would appear they have been reinvigorated. Its amazing what happens when there is clean air for everyone.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by Thryleon -
Im watching the Doggies vs adelaide, and whilst im not sure what changes we can and should make, I dont understand how teams like the Doggies can keep their side together, yet every 8 years or so we end up with an exodus. 

Helps you dont chop and change coach all that much, but we change direction like a weather vane.

False perception!

The Bulldogs have stuck fat with Beveridge, but they’ve turned their list over as much as we have over the last few seasons.
Maybe, but I started wondering when they lost someone high profile to a competitor and im only coming in with a very much finished Luke dahlhaus. 

And Josh dunkley.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by DJC -
Im watching the Doggies vs adelaide, and whilst im not sure what changes we can and should make, I dont understand how teams like the Doggies can keep their side together, yet every 8 years or so we end up with an exodus. 

Helps you dont chop and change coach all that much, but we change direction like a weather vane.

False perception!

The Bulldogs have stuck fat with Beveridge, but they’ve turned their list over as much as we have over the last few seasons.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by Thryleon -
Im watching the Doggies vs adelaide, and whilst im not sure what changes we can and should make, I dont understand how teams like the Doggies can keep their side together, yet every 8 years or so we end up with an exodus. 

Helps you dont chop and change coach all that much, but we change direction like a weather vane.