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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by DJC -
Well, that was disappointing but probably inevitable after we lost Harry.

What rubbed salt into the wound was the glib way that the commentators announced that Nick Daicos, with his 35 disposals and 10 score involvements was BoG over Crippa with just 30 possessions and only seven score involvements.  Despite having a losing ruck, and taking some ruck contests himself, Crippa had more clearances, twice as many contested possessions, more marks, more tackles and he kicked two goals; a Herculean effort not padded by dinky little handball give and goes.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Baggers -
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: madbluboy – on
I was at the match. Front row seats. We controlled most of the play but they cut us to shreds on the rebound. Same old story.

That was my impression too.
We were quite good in a lot of aspects but it seemed to go to pieces once we entered the forward area.
No structure and a lot of poor choices resulted in turnovers and bang...they cleared it out and went straight to the other end where their forward line was open and presented multiple options.

Yep. Plenty to like but still a way to go. No doubt we really wanted to win... but... crucial errors and loss of important personnel.

Just finished watching the game again. We didn't handle their pressure well. Often better, but lacking persistence for the whole 120 minutes. Our hunger for the contest and pressuring the opposition (take a bow The Byrner, Deano & Cow) was 'spasmodically' really good.

Also, I wouldn't underestimate lack of reward for effort. The inconsistent connection to our forwards, haphazard delivery and lack of good options presenting really undermined and sabotaged reward for effort... And that saps and wastes energy.

Some chose to highlight negatives... that Rottingwood was missing key players and so would have really belted us without them. I would remind those critics - Weitering, Pitto, HOF, Mots & Carroll. Compounded by loss of H & Cez and Hewey clearly hampered.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by keogh -
Need big changes
It’s a culmination of so many things.
We get average performance over 25 years because the wrong people at the top
I’m a big fan of Wright but he has his hands full
With this being the last draft trade period that’s uncompromising will
Be fascinating what he does and equally fascinating how much the board and the powerbrokers interfere
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by tonyo -
OK, now it's time to find out about our list before we get out the axe at the end of the year.

Next week, swap Kemp and Derksen.  We badly need a second marking option in F50, and besides, Kemp just cannot kick for goal.  Derksen played a lot of forward time for GWS seconds.  Kemp can play in defence.

Bring in Camporeale boys, even Charleson.

Play Riley.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: madbluboy – on
I was at the match. Front row seats. We controlled most of the play but they cut us to shreds on the rebound. Same old story.

That was my impression too.
We were quite good in a lot of aspects but it seemed to go to pieces once we entered the forward area.
No structure and a lot of poor choices resulted in turnovers and bang...they cleared it out and went straight to the other end where their forward line was open and presented multiple options.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Lods -
Just a bit of ruck trivia.

When we played Collingwood earlier in the year Pittonet and Cameron split the hitouts 20 a piece.
Hit outs to advantage were 5-2 in favour of Pittonet.

Oscar Steene (15- HTA 6 )and Lewis Young (7 -HTA 3) also did  bit of ruck work.
So all up it was Collingwood 35 -HTA 8 v Carlton 27-HTA 8

Last night they were 39-18 in Cameron's favour but Reidy won the HTA 8 to 5
Mc Stay also had 10-HTA 1 but no other Carlton player registered  a hit out
So 49-18 in terms of first hands but 8-6 our way in terms of HTAs

But in terms of
Clearances...41-39 our way
Centre Clearances...16-11 our way
Stoppage Clearances 28-25 their way.

All pretty even.

Cameron had 18 disposals to Reidy's 16
Cameron took 3 marks Reidy 0
Cameron made 2 tackles Reidy 6
Cameron had 8 clearances to Reidy's 6
Both had 4 inside 50s
Reidy had 4 centre clearances to Cameron's 2
Cameron had 18 contested possessions to Reidy's 12
...so a bit for each of them in  those stats...

The question from all that is.... was Reidy all that bad or have we concentrated too much on 'first hands' on the ball.