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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by shawny -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: shawny – on


Scare tactics which you used in the sacking Voss debate. I wont go further on that one..... 

Only the most staunch labour voter would use that argument and it won't work on election day as majority of voters can judge things without that level of bias. Victorians will cast their vote based on understanding the sad condition our state is now in with the current party governing for the last 12 years. Regardless of the fact we dont have a crystal ball to see how the Libs will fare you simply cannot reward the current inept party with another term.

The same 'scare tactics' were mentioned before Trump took over. I won't go further on that one....

Fraser is by far the exception, not the rule.

I think all politicians are corrupt and inept and only out for themselves and their bank balance.
Labor, Libs, ON....whoever.

Nobody gets anything for free.
You want to fix the current problems, go ahead, but it will be at the expense of something else instead. As i said, pick your poison.

yeah nah. If they are not doing the job they were elected to do they must be taken out of that position. Rewarding poor governing with extra terms is saying ok we accept the corruption, we accept the 200B debt, we accept the pot holes, the waiting lists, the crime etc etc etc. Unless you want the country to turn into the 3rd world you have to replace them and trust the new leadership will improve things. If they dont they are replaced as well.

To try and down play that by throwing in the alternative could be worse is simply showing your bias to a particular party.

Based on your thinking the yanks should re-elect Trump too cause the alternative could be worse ;)

Pick your poison.... ::) 
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Lods -
The problem for any government is always about priorities and balance.
A government can improve outcomes in something like "law and order" by allocating extra resources to that area.
But that money has to come from somewhere else, and another area goes underfunded.
Advocates for that area then get upset.

If you have a change of government in Victoria some areas will receive a boost.
But other areas will then come under scrutiny as resources are reallocated
And a whole different set of people will be expressing dissatisfaction.

It's a rare group that gets that balance right at a state level for an extended period....and it is always complicated and affected by national and international influences.
Those influences are very much in play at the moment.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -
Quote from: Thryleon – on

tend to agree.

I see this as a see saw.

Labor one side, liberal the other. 

Too many years of either is no good.
Agreed, success in politics has now become a reward for skilled misdirection, as opposed to good fiscal and social management.

But it's not really the politicians or bureaucrats who are ultimately at fault, they are just working in the theatre modern media has created, until media and social is made accountable for publishing deception and misdirection nothing can possibly change.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: shawny – on


Scare tactics which you used in the sacking Voss debate. I wont go further on that one..... 

Only the most staunch labour voter would use that argument and it won't work on election day as majority of voters can judge things without that level of bias. Victorians will cast their vote based on understanding the sad condition our state is now in with the current party governing for the last 12 years. Regardless of the fact we dont have a crystal ball to see how the Libs will fare you simply cannot reward the current inept party with another term.

The same 'scare tactics' were mentioned before Trump took over. I won't go further on that one....

Fraser is by far the exception, not the rule.

I think all politicians are corrupt and inept and only out for themselves and their bank balance.
Labor, Libs, ON....whoever.

Nobody gets anything for free.
You want to fix the current problems, go ahead, but it will be at the expense of something else instead. As i said, pick your poison.
tend to agree.

I see this as a see saw.

Labor one side, liberal the other. 

Too many years of either is no good.



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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: shawny – on
Quote from: kruddler – on


Choose your poison.

No matter which way you go, you won't be pleased with the result.

Scare tactics which you used in the sacking Voss debate. I wont go further on that one..... 

Only the most staunch labour voter would use that argument and it won't work on election day as majority of voters can judge things without that level of bias. Victorians will cast their vote based on understanding the sad condition our state is now in with the current party governing for the last 12 years. Regardless of the fact we dont have a crystal ball to see how the Libs will fare you simply cannot reward the current inept party with another term.

The same 'scare tactics' were mentioned before Trump took over. I won't go further on that one....

Fraser is by far the exception, not the rule.

I think all politicians are corrupt and inept and only out for themselves and their bank balance.
Labor, Libs, ON....whoever.

Nobody gets anything for free.
You want to fix the current problems, go ahead, but it will be at the expense of something else instead. As i said, pick your poison.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: shawny – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
If one is to believe the polls, we here in Victoria might finally rid ourselves of these corrupt and incompetent bunch of buffoons.

Carrolls list of election promises to fix the pot holes, cut hospital waiting times, tougher sentencing to youth offenders, more police at stations proves (not that we needed any more) what a lying 2 faced clown he and his inept party is.

They disputed all those very concerns time and time again and span them everytime they were questioned yet now miraculously they promise to fix it all as long as you vote them in of course.

This corrupt party has fooled the Victoria people for the last 12 years so i understand their planning in trying the same winning tactic.

It won't work and they will be smashed in this election.



I dont recall ever being someone who advocates for change for the sake of change, but if ever there were reasons for it here in Victoria is candidate numero uno. I am sick to death of these pollies taking the piss with their BS rhetoric. Tonight on the news, you had some Senior Police Official at a presser (with that fwit of a Lord Mayor standing behind her) stating categorically how safe Melbourne is. Enough FFS, the Melb CBD is farken Ghetto and thats during the day let along at night. The are violent, drug affected fwits on every second corner, I have worked in the heart of the City for the best part of 15 years and the last 2.5 to 3 years has seen a deterioration like never before. Tell the wife of the poor man who lost his life two nights ago that Melb is safe. I couldnt care less about the state of mind of the dirt bag who did, point is he should never have been on the streets. We can continue to dance around these issues and others like the state of our finances but enough is enough. And Ill tell you one thing, who ever comes in to replace these idiots will be under 100 fold the pressure because its one thing to talk the talk during an election campaign, can you walk the walk when youre handed the keys. We'll all be watching and listening and expecting action  from day one. The minute I start hearing "well the previous Government did this" and "the previous government did that", may as well take the keys off them and get someone else in. Now is the time for clear and decisive leadership in the State. I'll be writing to Miss Wilson and stating these very facts. No more pissing down our backs and telling us its raining.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by shawny -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
If one is to believe the polls, we here in Victoria might finally rid ourselves of these corrupt and incompetent bunch of buffoons.

Choose your poison.

No matter which way you go, you won't be pleased with the result.

Scare tactics which you used in the sacking Voss debate. I wont go further on that one..... 

Only the most staunch labour voter would use that argument and it won't work on election day as majority of voters can judge things without that level of bias. Victorians will cast their vote based on understanding the sad condition our state is now in with the current party governing for the last 12 years. Regardless of the fact we dont have a crystal ball to see how the Libs will fare you simply cannot reward the current inept party with another term.
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Ladies Lounge / Re: AFLW 2026 Qualifying Final Carlton vs North Melbourne at home
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: Micky0 – on
Its funny you said that about the run and pick up as a NM player did it in the 4th quarter and it really stood out to me that her skillset was higher than most of our girls!

I get really frustrated watching them run towards the ball then hover Putting their bodies btw oppo and ball - its too slow and just then creates a pile on. Not impressed with that - maybe coaching? - at all.


Not confident against the Hawks, they were tough last time we played.
Spot on Micky. 
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by shawny -
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
If one is to believe the polls, we here in Victoria might finally rid ourselves of these corrupt and incompetent bunch of buffoons.

Carrolls list of election promises to fix the pot holes, cut hospital waiting times, tougher sentencing to youth offenders, more police at stations proves (not that we needed any more) what a lying 2 faced clown he and his inept party is.

They disputed all those very concerns time and time again and span them everytime they were questioned yet now miraculously they promise to fix it all as long as you vote them in of course.

This corrupt party has fooled the Victoria people for the last 12 years so i understand their planning in trying the same winning tactic.

It won't work and they will be smashed in this election.


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Ladies Lounge / Re: AFLW 2026 Qualifying Final Carlton vs North Melbourne at home
Last post by Micky0 -
Its funny you said that about the run and pick up as a NM player did it in the 4th quarter and it really stood out to me that her skillset was higher than most of our girls!

I get really frustrated watching them run towards the ball then hover Putting their bodies btw oppo and ball - its too slow and just then creates a pile on. Not impressed with that - maybe coaching? - at all.


Not confident against the Hawks, they were tough last time we played.