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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 20 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Gold Coast at Marvel
Last post by Baggers -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: Lods – on
My concern with Moir is more around the 'selection integrity'.
Is the one or two  goals a game worth as much as someone running, chasing providing pressure and turnovers.
How do you justify giving him a game ahead of someone who might be busting a gut to get an opportunity and performing much better in the VFL.
Blokes like Ben C and Charleson would have to wonder.

I go back tp fogarty. Bustjng a gut did not help us win.

Winning justifies selection.

Now that's just a peculiar logic and rationale, K.

I don't believe we can summarize Fog as just a gut-buster and non-contributor to wins. He played his role, often times, pretty well but the game has moved on with leg speed being, probably, his real issue now.

Selection integrity is fundamental to strengthening club values. Moir presents selection with a quandary. He seems to only want to take 'speccies' and kick miracle goals. His defensive work rate is ordinary, lacking intensity and intention. Sure, he may kick 2 or3 but if I was an opposition coach I'd be instructing the bloke on Moir to run off him creating links and opportunities up the ground. So, Moir kicks his couple but his opponent launches and links to create even more! The Lizard would have a day out on someone like Moir.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 20 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Gold Coast at Marvel
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: Lods – on
My concern with Moir is more around the 'selection integrity'.
Is the one or two  goals a game worth as much as someone running, chasing providing pressure and turnovers.
How do you justify giving him a game ahead of someone who might be busting a gut to get an opportunity and performing much better in the VFL.
Blokes like Ben C and Charleson would have to wonder.

I go back tp fogarty. Bustjng a gut did not help us win.

Winning justifies selection.

Fogarty played a role as a defensive forward and while he may not have hit the scoreboard he was deemed worthy of a place in the side for a long time.

He played in 12 games for 10 wins in 2023
He played in 15 games for 10 wins in 2024
Not so great last year with 20 games for 7 wins
This year he's only played 2 games for a win and a loss.

So you could probably argue for a long time that Fogarty's efforts did help us 'win'.

Is that worth more than a player who gives you a goal a game and precious little else.
In fact if it came down to a choice between who would give you better value between Fogarty and Moir based  on 'current' VFL form it's Fogarty first and daylight second.

But...and it's a big but.
Like you I can see the 'potential' in Moir and playing Fogarty ahead of him probably doesn't make a lot of sense in terms of the future.
But Moir needs to show us something more than a cameo.
If given a chance we need to see a bit more than a goal and half a dozen possessions.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 20 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Gold Coast at Marvel
Last post by LP -
I've got a problem with Campo's lads, when they arrived they looked pacey relative to our existing jar of treacle, but it's only taken a coule of newbies to show some leg and now they look a bit off the pace.
 
With their run of injuries I'd be giving them more VFL time, they don't look ready to me, they look VFL dominant but not AFL competitve  as silly as that sounds.

Brave footbllers, smart footballers, but what is their AFL trick, can they survive on brains alone? Will they displace Smith or Wilson?

Excluding the big names this season so far Wilson is a win, Byrne a future, Evans gets everything he can out of himself.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: The EV thread
Last post by LP -
Quote from: kruddler – on

Rangers became the options because alternatively you were paying 10k more for a vehicle that had less. Thats an expensice badge the toyota were selling.
I think the Landcruisers are still the performance leader, but the price is the killer as @Gointocarlton points out, I think it's about a 30% premium. The new Landcruiser hybrid claims greater performance and load capacity than the traditional, this is typically the reverse of most hybrid models, so I'll be keen to see a genuine independant review.

You can build a car to ace any industry standard test, as Volkswagon proved! ;)
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: The EV thread
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: LP – on
In our area Tritons have become increasingly more popular with tradies, I see them on job sites everywhere. Rangers are now popular with the weekend warriors, they seem to have replaced the Landcruisers and Patrols as the weekend vehicle of choice.
It comes down to what you can afford, with cost of living pressure, people aren't buying Toyotas just because they are Toyotas like the old days. I personally think they are superior bits of equipment (I am biased as I have owned Landcruisers and Prados for years) but they are not worth the difference in price nowadays. At the end of the day, they all do their job. I recently watched a video of a test some blokes did with some GVM vehicles at a place called "Beer OClock Hill". The GVM tank absolutely swallowed this hill up like no other car they have tested. The two different spec GVM Utes they tested were  the first 4 door Utes to make it up this particular hill. Believe me it's doozey. I wouldn't have a GVM if you gave it too me for free but they are beasts and I'm an unabashed Toyota snob.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 20 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Gold Coast at Marvel
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: Lods – on
My concern with Moir is more around the 'selection integrity'.
Is the one or two  goals a game worth as much as someone running, chasing providing pressure and turnovers.
How do you justify giving him a game ahead of someone who might be busting a gut to get an opportunity and performing much better in the VFL.
Blokes like Ben C and Charleson would have to wonder.

I go back tp fogarty. Bustjng a gut did not help us win.

Winning justifies selection.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: The EV thread
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: LP – on
In our area Tritons have become increasingly more popular with tradies, I see them on job sites everywhere. Rangers are now popular with the weekend warriors, they seem to have replaced the Landcruisers and Patrols as the weekend vehicle of choice.

Tritons are sonmuch cheaper than the holux and rangers, thats whybthey are popular.
But they drive like a boat.

Rangers became the options because alternatively you were paying 10k more for a vehicle that had less. Thats an expensice badge the toyota were selling.

Everests are the same as the ranger, just for people who want to carry more 'inside things' (like kids) conpared to outside things (like tools)
Mate took one on a 9 week holiday up central Australia with a caravan. Did its job.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: The EV thread
Last post by LP -
In our area Tritons have become increasingly more popular with tradies, I see them on job sites everywhere. Rangers are now popular with the weekend warriors, they seem to have replaced the Landcruisers and Patrols as the weekend vehicle of choice.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 20 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Gold Coast at Marvel
Last post by Lods -
My concern with Moir is more around the 'selection integrity'.
Is the one or two  goals a game worth as much as someone running, chasing providing pressure and turnovers.
How do you justify giving him a game ahead of someone who might be busting a gut to get an opportunity and performing much better in the VFL.
Blokes like Ben C and Charleson would have to wonder.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: The EV thread
Last post by Professer E -
I wanted to buy a Prado but an Everest suited my requirements at the time and was substantially cheaper, even though I have always had Toyotas for their bush usability.  So, yes, price was a big factor.