Carlton Supporters Club

It reeks of double standards to make excuses for Clarkson at North, but not Voss. If Vossy's first 3 seasons yielded a W/L of 3-10 (plus 10 straight losses under Ratts as fill-in), 3-20 and 5-1-17, folks on here would not give any coach the BOD, whatever their previous records says. They would be screaming blue murder.

Quote from: shawny – on April 20, 2026, 05:06:20 pm

Thats fine provided the system the coach wants followed can work. Contested inside footy is taxing it slow and not the way the current game is played and hence why we are sitting in 16th spot. 

Good luck getting our ball butchers and slow pokes to play the modern game. That's why we are in 16th spot.

Quote from: PaulP – on April 20, 2026, 05:00:58 pm

Interesting hearing Luke Beveridge after the Geelong game. He said that as coaches, you either mold the game style to the players you have, or you establish a game style that you know will be successful, and you ask everyone to come up to that. He stated he's always tried the latter. It's similar to the old adage of designing / building a house down to a budget, or up to a standard.

Thats fine provided the system the coach wants followed can work. Contested inside footy is taxing it slow and not the way the current game is played and hence why we are sitting in 16th spot. 

Love him or hate him, Clarko has a hefty successful bank account of success to draw upon - Dawks... and he took over an absolute cot-case - Kangabies.

How does Clarkos first 10 years as a senior coach stack up against Vossy's 

Interesting hearing Luke Beveridge after the Geelong game. He said that as coaches, you either mold the game style to the players you have, or you establish a game style that you know will be successful, and you ask everyone to come up to that. He stated he's always tried the latter. It's similar to the old adage of designing / building a house down to a budget, or up to a standard.

W D L

Alistair Clarkson - North Melbourne
15 1 49

Michel Voss - Carlton
47 1 48

Given that some fans believe we are the new St Kilda, Vossy is knocking it out of the park.

Quote from: kruddler – on April 20, 2026, 03:45:41 pm

The only one spinning it is the bloke who refuses to acknowledge that the success of a football team is spread across 100 blokes, not 1.

Maybe, but it starts with the coach. You can have everything else in place, but if the coach isn't doing the job then it won't work. If the end it is all about what happens on the field and right now it is 11 wins from the last 38. If that isn't happening but nothing is happening. Not disagreeing totally with you, you have some points, but that's the bottom line. He has failed to evolve with the changing game, which is pretty obvious.

You can have issues with a crap club generally, which I think beat Teague, and Malthouse made mention of that not long ago in his time here, but sometimes coaching stands out more, as it has here and did going back to Bolton. Have to be aware of which is the greater over-riding issue. Vossy is basically done here. 11 from 38 says so.