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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by laj -
Madden and Allen in 95 worked well. Was surprised we didn't stick with but it obviously didn't matter.
Yes, agree there. By the time finals came though Harry was on his own with Sticks helping out. Allan was a  younger bloke then and missed out when the time came. Allan was a dangerous man up forward. When you have that then 2 rucks works alot better. Actually both Harry and Allan were good up forward. To me, that's the only time two rucks work. No good having 2 rucks if they are useless lumps when not on the ball.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by LP -

The fact there is a need for a defence lawyer at all is the problem.
They create their own oxygen and they do so for highly profitable reasons, they profit more by the lack of evidence and no definitive answer. In many cases they make evidence inadmissible, that consigns the plaintiff to the long drawn out and expensive loss.

Even so, it's unrelated to the issues of slavery, and closer to the subjugation I discussed earlier.

In this case the plaintiff is subjugated by his defense team via a mind f#$k!

What's the great example of the concept of systemic abuse, certainly it's nothing from a podcast? Most of the very high profile cases that have resulted in reversals are ruled on technicalities, not innocence.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by kruddler -


Someone has got the message i've been spouting for years!  ;D
Outside of a couple of finals when TDK did ok forward I have never seen 2 rucks work at Carlton. Can't remember the last time it was successful. Fitzpatrick/and both Jones? Nicholls and Perc? Harry and Sartori gave us good value as Sartori gave us great value up forward. We just barely saw Sartori on the park.

Can't think of much since.

In the modern game where its all about run run run.....having any amount of extra talls blokes who limit that is a curse more than a blessing.

You could accept it up forward if your 2 blokes are kicking you bags of goals between them.
But 2 blokes in the ruck when you can only ever use 1 ruck at a time, that is, there is only ever 1 ballup, 1 throw-in etc at a time.
I've done the figures while we were using SOS as our 2nd ruck.
At best, we'd get maybe 1 extra hitout to advantage a game by playing a second ruck.
The flipside is that we expect our midfielders to play an extra 50% gametime between them to compensate, clearly making them more fatigued as a result. Given they are more fatigued, their output would drop. It could drop to the point where we get less hitouts to advantage as a result negating any perceived benefit.

Now we are more setup to handle a 2nd ruck.....but if that is HOK playing there and FF and he gets 3 touches a game and spends over a half on the bench.....then output wise its even worse than playing 2 rucks.......which yields no actual benefit anyway.

If you had unlimited players on the bench, 100% you play an extra ruck.....hell, play 4!
But thats not how it works.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by LP -
One or two rucks is not a tactical plan set in stone, you have to pick and choose when, in AFL no plan can be set in stone as you leave yourself exposed.

It's not different to having an extra KPP in D50 sometimes, you do it sometimes because of opposition strengths or your own weakness.

Last weekend Pitto shadowed Gawn, I think we need Pitto to push forward more as an alternate to Harry. We would not want the likes of Pitto and HOK dropping into D50 taking Gawn with them, anybody asserting a structure that causes that is a lunatic! If Pitto had been solo, that is exactly what Gawn would have done, drag him into our D50, because Pitto isn't capable of running solo off Gawn for four quarters. Gawn would have pushed deep at both ends and been largely unopposed.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by laj -
No 2nd ruck. Prefer a runner. No point having a slow ruck when you can have a runner in. Young or Harry can have those duties. Young forward though, yes.

Someone has got the message i've been spouting for years!  ;D
Outside of a couple of finals when TDK did ok forward I have never seen 2 rucks work at Carlton. Can't remember the last time it was successful. Fitzpatrick/and both Jones? Nicholls and Perc? Harry and Sartori gave us good value as Sartori gave us great value up forward. We just barely saw Sartori on the park.

Can't think of much since.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by kruddler -
Get the conviction....bleed them dry and hope they run out of money to clear their own name.
It's the defense lawyers that bleed clients dry, not the government or police.

Those podcasts all have one thing in common, one side of the story.

Way to miss the point.

The fact there is a need for a defence lawyer at all is the problem.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by cookie2 -
My day at the footy:

I left home at 1300 and caught the VLine train from South Geelong.  It was a leisurely trip, so leisurely that I missed our first two goals.

One of the things I noticed walking from the station to the G was how few cars were parked in Yarra Park; fuel prices are biting.

I haven’t listened to any commentary on the match, read any reviews or posts here, watched replays and I haven’t seen any stats or votes.  What follows are my own impressions, as flawed as they may be.

We played damn good footy in the first quarter and it seemed that we were going to give the Dees an old-fashioned shellacking.  The only concern I had was that Max Gawn was all over Pitto and Skull.

The second quarter was much the same, although we weren’t getting the results on the scoreboard and big Max stepped his game up a notch.

I braved the crush in the Legends’ Lounge at half time and enjoyed a glass of Balter XPA.

At the start of the third quarter two thirds of the G was bathed in sunlight and it looked magnificent.  I thought that you couldn’t get a better day in Melbourne, if only our team could continue on. Half way through the third quarter, the sun began shining directly into my eyes and my shady seat was roasting.  Mistakes were creeping into our game and Gawn had stepped up another notch.  Kosi Pickett was making his presence felt too.

We started the last quarter well and my confidence was restored ... momentarily!  Melbourne lifted again and it was like we’d lost all confidence and cohesion and were resigned to losing.

It’s probably unfair to single players out but I thought that Kemp had an absolute shocker.  He seemed to be far more concerned about his opponent than he was about leading and making his defender work.  Our youngsters – Dean, Smith, Carroll, Byrne and Skull - all made rookie errors.  That’s to be expected but it’s still momentum sapping.  And, speaking of momentum sapping, the holding the ball free against Hewett was critical … and the Dees seemed to get more than their fair share of critical frees.

Lij Hollands was mercurial at times and the usual suspects plugged away, but we had no answer to big Max and Kosi.

Forget about Daicos and the Bont, Max Gawn is the best footballer going around now.  Apart from his ruckwork, the outcome of virtually every kick down the line was a foregone conclusion.   

The train trip home was morose and strangely quiet.  I spoke to a Melbourne supporter who was getting off at South Geelong too and he said, “I can’t work out how we won, or how you lost.”  I think the answer is between the ears.

I got home just after 2030; a long and pretty dismal day.

Just about nails it DJ. I watched it on tv and felt similarly morose at the end. Not encouraged to make the effort from the Yarra Valley to attend anytime soon.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by LP -
If you want a modern day conspiracy, you can ask the media to investigate why the authorities are putting speed cameras in twin cab utes and parking them outside building sites alongside the tradie vehicles.

A colleague reported the other day a camera in a sedan with "Green P" plates parked on the si.de of the road with the indicator on.

On the peninsula, they have been putting two speed cameras just a couple of hundred metres apart, of course people pass the first and then speed up.

Victims, something for the Sovereign Citizens to complain about, or are you just stupid for speeding?