Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: kruddler – on April 20, 2026, 02:46:43 pm

Jimbo, how many results would be turned simply by kicking straighter at goal?
Vossy isnt kicking the ball, nor is he picking the guys who is kicking the ball.

Suddenly you see how wins and losses is more than just the coach.
Past history should tell you that changing the coach hasnt solved our problems, so why do you think this is any different?

In fact his results are in line with the strength of the list we have.

I predicted a down year and told everybody to prepare for some poor results. After the chicken little / sky is falling jibes stopped, even my expectations have been let down. None pf our recruits have loved up to expectations and none cone close tp covering what we lost in the off season.

So why is vossy to blame if those things are outside his control?

You can spin it, but no. We are alot better than 11 out of 38. The only result that matters. Times up. Enjoyed the ride for most of 3 years, we appreciate that, but to fall off so much, not hard  to work out. 11 from 38 is 11 from 38. Vossy has struggled to evolve with the changing game. At some point the coach stops getting his message through. Happens to most coaches at some stage.

Vossy can't even see when one of his player is off his nut on game day or is that not his department either 

Quote from: laj – on April 20, 2026, 02:38:09 pm

Only have to watch football and look at the results. Pretty easy for most to work out. 11 wins from 38 probably tells a story in itself. Take the agenda away and you will see that. In the end it is wins and losses. That's the best story. Can't be argued.

Jimbo, how many results would be turned simply by kicking straighter at goal?
Vossy isnt kicking the ball, nor is he picking the guys who is kicking the ball.

Suddenly you see how wins and losses is more than just the coach.
Past history should tell you that changing the coach hasnt solved our problems, so why do you think this is any different?

In fact his results are in line with the strength of the list we have.

I predicted a down year and told everybody to prepare for some poor results. After the chicken little / sky is falling jibes stopped, even my expectations have been let down. None pf our recruits have loved up to expectations and none cone close tp covering what we lost in the off season.

So why is vossy to blame if those things are outside his control?

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on April 20, 2026, 02:15:58 pm

You assume or suspect  "he is not resonating", you don't know it to be fact.

Only have to watch football and look at the results. Pretty easy for most to work out. 11 wins from 38 probably tells a story in itself. Take the agenda away and you will see that. In the end it is wins and losses. That's the best story. Can't be argued.

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on April 20, 2026, 02:15:58 pm

You assume or suspect  "he is not resonating", you don't know it to be fact.

Only have to watch football and look at the results. Pretty easy for most to work out. 11 wins from 38 probably tells a story in itself. Take the agenda away and you will see that. In the end it is wins and losses. That's the best story. Can't be argued.

Quote from: laj – on April 20, 2026, 02:10:06 pm

We've won 11 from  38. Sometimes you time up simply up and his message isn't resonating anymore. Gave us a thrill for 2 years and 16 games,  and may have got a flag in 2023 if we didn't have to go to the Gabba or we went to Ed's place 5 weeks earlier, but once you've stopped resonating with the players with you message, that it's. Happens to many coaches, some after 5 years, some after 15 years. Hardwick worked that out in his dying days at Richmond and was smart enough to get out. When your times up, your times up.

You assume or suspect  "he is not resonating", you don't know it to be fact.

Quote from: Thryleon – on April 19, 2026, 11:34:14 am

we've appointed a list manager as boss.

We've seen this before with ratten. 

Our club was once known as the professionals. We've been asleep at the wheel since dick pratt died. 

Sure sack the coach, our problems run deeper, and we'll be here in 5 years again.

We've won 11 from  38. Sometimes you time up simply up and his message isn't resonating anymore. Gave us a thrill for 2 years and 16 games,  and may have got a flag in 2023 if we didn't have to go to the Gabba or we went to Ed's place 5 weeks earlier, but once you've stopped resonating with the players with you message, that it's. Happens to many coaches, some after 5 years, some after 15 years. Hardwick worked that out in his dying days at Richmond and was smart enough to get out. When your times up, your times up.

Quote from: shawny – on April 19, 2026, 10:50:05 am

Agree and standing front and square IMO is Voss. Considering he coaches from the bench (or plays solitare on his laptop from the bench) you seriously would have to be brain dead to not pick up on the young man's condition. Lij has a history of substance abuse and yet our head coach is oblivious to his state till half-way through the last quarter. Any half component coach would have looked into his state when the stats said he was zero touches in a half and if he did that but didn't notice then he should resign. 

Yet another cross against him and hopefully the final nail and he is not up it like many on our list.

we've appointed a list manager as boss.

We've seen this before with ratten. 

Our club was once known as the professionals. We've been asleep at the wheel since dick pratt died. 

Sure sack the coach, our problems run deeper, and we'll be here in 5 years again.