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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by LP -
Quote from: Thryleon on
Trump statistically has been a very successful president.

He's not respectable, but I have to say he's actually done the job better than anyone is giving him credit for.

Their economy is flourishing.  Unemployment is down.
It will be interesting to see the long term effects, while nearly all are happy with the short term some in business I deal with claim he's burning the future and betting that future technology will be able to "fix" whatever is the outcome of his short term dealings. It's quite hard to gauge the short term as his trick is changing how things are measured and represented. The net result is that you get reports like unemployment is down, without being able to verify the figures, will this come about at the expense of wealth, health and lifestyle?

Some say the US Economy still hasn't even regained the ground lost in the government shutdowns, and that the reporting is bogus.

Are they still printing money(Quantitative Easing) faster than you can shuffle it?
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by Thryleon -
Trump statistically has been a very successful president.

He's not respectable, but I have to say he's actually done the job better than anyone is giving him credit for.

Their economy is flourishing.  Unemployment is down.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Bush Fires
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: Thryleon on
I agree too.

HOWEVER.

Its important we understand a few things.

The running of our nation, requires resources X.

The actual resources we have is Y.

Y is actually a much smaller number than X.

The results are as follows.

Raise Y.

Decrease X.

To increase Y means that we need to pay more tax or we need better foreign deals.

To decrease X, means to neglect things.

What the governments and Politics is all about, is trying to minimising raising Y, whilst trying to decrease the gap between Y and X.

The problem?  They dont spend Y wisely enough as an overt Generalisation.  They spend it flippantly on crap that doesnt matter in the scheme of things (like a marriage equality referendum) meaning we have less of Y left over to spend on the real X's that matter.

Had the government had a back bone, perhaps there would be more funds available to undertake those tasks such as the burning mentioned by this indigenous fella.  The problem?  These idiots are too busy feeding from that trough, to actually do it appropriately.

This isnt about over politicising things either.  Its about ensuring we hold the politicians accountable, and I for one have had a gutful of politicians riding the gravy train for life at the expense of Joe Average, and the next generations fire policies.
Good work Thry. The bottom line is still that they are are incompetent and to blame for the the problem.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by PaulP -
Quote from: Lods on
Unfortunately for the Democrats...Hilary's best is also better than any of their three front running candidates (Biden, Warren and Sanders) this year.
The more impressive debate performers have been Klobuchar (probably a good Vice President choice), Yang and Mayor Pete.

I lost interest in US politics when Trump was elected, but back in 2016 I liked Sanders. He had quite a lot of popular support, especially when you consider he had no money and no budget. As Chomsky has observed, elections in the US are basically bought. He mentions studies that show a very strong correlation between election spending and victory.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: PaulP on
I'm not really a Hilary fan, but even the worst she has to offer is better than anything coming from Trump.

Unfortunately for the Democrats...Hilary's best is also better than any of their three front running candidates (Biden, Warren and Sanders) this year.
The more impressive debate performers have been Klobuchar (probably a good Vice President choice), Yang and Mayor Pete.

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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: flyboy77 on
Trump won because of Killary (who is loathed)

Scomo won here because of Bill (Bill loves Bill).

Boris won in the UK because of Corbyn (a commie nutter on a good day)

Was mainly Bill with ScoMo but the Labor party made poor policy on the run and shot themselves in the head with older voters as well as rural voters who were doing it tough.
Boris won because he looks like an English Trump and yep agree on Comrade Corbyn. Mr Free, everything he promised was going to cost nothing, the State will provide by taking all the wealth back from the wealthy, he was/is a communist Robin Hood.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Bush Fires
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: Jack Burton on
Couldn't agree more. Most people are spending too much time blaming politics of every side. Let's just listen to the people who understand the land and know how to manage it, and start managing it!

I agree too.

HOWEVER.

Its important we understand a few things.

The running of our nation, requires resources X.

The actual resources we have is Y.

Y is actually a much smaller number than X.

The results are as follows.

Raise Y.

Decrease X.

To increase Y means that we need to pay more tax or we need better foreign deals.

To decrease X, means to neglect things.

What the governments and Politics is all about, is trying to minimising raising Y, whilst trying to decrease the gap between Y and X.

The problem?  They dont spend Y wisely enough as an overt Generalisation.  They spend it flippantly on crap that doesnt matter in the scheme of things (like a marriage equality referendum) meaning we have less of Y left over to spend on the real X's that matter.

Had the government had a back bone, perhaps there would be more funds available to undertake those tasks such as the burning mentioned by this indigenous fella.  The problem?  These idiots are too busy feeding from that trough, to actually do it appropriately.

This isnt about over politicising things either.  Its about ensuring we hold the politicians accountable, and I for one have had a gutful of politicians riding the gravy train for life at the expense of Joe Average, and the next generations fire policies.