Princes Park => Robert Heatley Stand => Topic started by: crashlander on May 07, 2015, 12:44:29 pm
Title: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: crashlander on May 07, 2015, 12:44:29 pm
This weeks the Baby Blues play Frankston at Frankston on Sunday at 2:00 PM. I used to love going to this fixture, but as it will be up against the Brisbane game at Etihad.... I do not expect the team to be significantly stronger than last week, although Kreuzer is expected to play. I am expected Menzel to get a full game this week, depending on how his injuries pulled up. He basically finished up at 3/4 time last week and was stiff and sore. having got through training during the week I think he will play. I'd be horrified if he played seniors after 8 possessions last round. Next week there should be a number of guys available: Byrne, Sheehan and Yarran to mention just a few. Maybe even Daisy.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: crashlander on May 07, 2015, 08:53:17 pm
Frankston vs. Northern Blues Sunday, May 10 Frankston Oval at 2pm
Frankston
B: Gray Cooper Wilsen HB: Tynan Giobbi Foote C: Pickess Wood Cavarra HF: Pollard B. Irving Mullane F: Wilson* Douglas Gardiner R: Post Hockey Pongracic Int: Valles Clark Sutton Newman Buchan Pridgeon R. Kitchin Soroczynski McPherson
Northern Blues
B: McGuinness Fields Dick HB: Viojo Watson Buckley C: Tutt Walsh Whiley HF: Menzel Johnson Bransgrove F: Ellard Foster Kreuzer R: Warnock Curnow Graham Int: Bolger Russell Dirago Johnston Smith Wilson Holman Gowers Wilkinson Ballard* Cattapan Perry Strachan
We won't line up anything like this.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: crashlander on May 09, 2015, 10:43:51 am
Northern Blues
B: McGuinness Fields Dick HB: Viojo Watson ......... C: Tutt Walsh ......... HF: Menzel Johnson Bransgrove F: Ellard Foster Kreuzer R: Warnock ......... ........... Int: Bolger Russell Dirago Johnston Smith Wilson Holman Gowers Wilkinson Ballard* Cattapan Perry Strachan
As expected, the lineup will be just a tad different to what was listed on Thursday. 2 ruckmen in the team will be very unusual. I hope that works down in the mud at Frankston.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: LP on May 09, 2015, 12:22:08 pm
As expected, the lineup will be just a tad different to what was listed on Thursday. 2 ruckmen in the team will be very unusual. I hope that works down in the mud at Frankston.
The Frankston ground was in immaculate condition when I watched a team play there a couple of weeks ago, no mud to be found!
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: crashlander on May 09, 2015, 03:55:18 pm
Sam Cattapan's father just put a clip up on FB and showed that it is bucketing down at Frankston.
I asked him for a score, he wrote :
"Blues up by 3 goals 3/4 time. Into wind last quarter"
You mean the development team?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: Lods on May 10, 2015, 02:41:50 pm
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Northern Blues FC @NBluesFC · 9m 9 minutes ago
QUARTER TIME: @VFL_Dolphins 0.0.0, Blues 5.5.35. #PJVFL
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Northern Blues FC retweeted Cristian Filippo @C_Filippo23 · 8m 8 minutes ago
Holman on absolute fire early with 1.2 from his 10 touches. Menzel lively with 4 disposals, 4 tackles and a goal for @NBluesFC.
Follow it here https://twitter.com/NBluesFC
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: LP on May 10, 2015, 02:44:16 pm
Must be blowing a gale there, probably 6 or 8 goal breeze based on my location!
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: laj on May 10, 2015, 06:45:58 pm
Kreuzer did pretty well first up. Needs another couple of weeks though. Watson had a good one again with 3 goals. Think he spent alot of time in defence too when we were kicking into the gale.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: DJC on May 10, 2015, 07:18:12 pm
Kreuzer did pretty well first up. Needs another couple of weeks though. Watson had a good one again with 3 goals. Think he spent alot of time in defence too when we were kicking into the gale.
They'll be tempted to rush Kreuzer back but, if the club is fair dinkum, he will be given a couple of weeks with the NBs.
Watson should really get a game this week; Jones has had his six weeks and has given very little.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: laj on May 10, 2015, 07:21:51 pm
They'll be tempted to rush Kreuzer back but, if the club is fair dinkum, he will be given a couple of weeks with the NBs.
Watson should really get a game this week; Jones has had his six weeks and has given very little.
So would I. Watson's doing well in the NBs.
Jones I think has some ability but he is simply not big enough to be a key forward. Just have in idea where he should play. Chuck him in the NB's and try him in different spots. He's the type of bloke who'd be a crap player with us but somehow the Swans would find a role for him and make him a good player.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: BluePhantom on May 10, 2015, 07:22:59 pm
Jones I think has some ability but he is simply not big enough to be a key forward. Just have in idea where he should play. Chuck him in the NB's and try him in different spots. He's the type of bloke who'd be a crap player with us but somehow the Swans would find a role for him and make him a good player.
Jones is 1.98cm and 98kg (Casboult is 1.98cm and 99kg) so he is certainly big enough. He just doesn't play to his size and that was the knock on him at the Bulldogs.
I'm not giving up on him yet but I don't think he can play anywhere other than as a key forward.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: Professer E on May 10, 2015, 08:10:10 pm
Jones doesn't play to his size or use his mobility once the aerial contest is over... thus he isn't a KP player and he doesn't work hard enough to be a flanker.
Fair dinkum, DJC, blind freddie's guide dog has more chance of contributing across half forward than Jones. Runs to the wrong places, doesn't hold marks, doesn't recover fast enough, doesn't put any pressure on the defence coming out, and is an inaccurate shot of goal. His 6 games have all stunk, he's had more than enough chances. At least Flash the Labrador might hunt the pill when it hits the deck...
I'm no fan of Watson, but if he was encouraged to lead up at the ball carriers he seems capable enough to do that. He is also a fair chance from up to 55 - which is likely to be where he would be shooting from.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: cookie2 on May 10, 2015, 08:12:43 pm
After today, Watson deserves a 6 week run in the seniors replacing Jone's.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: Mantis on May 10, 2015, 08:35:51 pm
After today, Watson deserves a 6 week run in the seniors replacing Jone's.
Make it 8. Give him a chance to get it right. He will kick more than Jones has for us in 6 games without trying. For starters he can kick a football. That is a good start.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: laj on May 10, 2015, 08:48:48 pm
Jones is 1.98cm and 98kg (Casboult is 1.98cm and 99kg) so he is certainly big enough. He just doesn't play to his size and that was the knock on him at the Bulldogs.
I'm not giving up on him yet but I don't think he can play anywhere other than as a key forward.
Jones 198? He looks way smaller than Casboult. Not doubting you, just surprised.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: flyboy77 on May 10, 2015, 09:42:52 pm
FRANKSTON Goal Kickers: N. Gardiner 2, B. Irving , D. Sutton , D. Clark , J. Pickess , B. Cavarra , J. Pollard , J. Douglas Best Players: , K. Post , B. Cavarra , C. Buchan , J. Newman , J. Tynan , T. Pridgeon
NORTHERN BLUES Goal Kickers: M. Watson 3, M. Kreuzer 2, T. Menzel 2, F. Russell 2, B. Johnson , N. Holman Best Players: , N. Holman , K. McGuinness , J. Perry , B. Bransgrove , B. Johnson , J. Tutt
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 10, 2015, 09:44:51 pm
FRANKSTON Goal Kickers: N. Gardiner 2, B. Irving , D. Sutton , D. Clark , J. Pickess , B. Cavarra , J. Pollard , J. Douglas Best Players: , K. Post , B. Cavarra , C. Buchan , J. Newman , J. Tynan , T. Pridgeon
NORTHERN BLUES Goal Kickers: M. Watson 3, M. Kreuzer 2, T. Menzel 2, F. Russell 2, B. Johnson , N. Holman Best Players: , N. Holman , K. McGuinness , J. Perry , B. Bransgrove , B. Johnson , J. Tutt
Holman been in the best players now for three weeks as a onballer tagger, reckon he might get a game this week...
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: crashlander on May 10, 2015, 10:07:13 pm
They'll be tempted to rush Kreuzer back but, if the club is fair dinkum, he will be given a couple of weeks with the NBs.
Watson should really get a game this week; Jones has had his six weeks and has given very little.
Absolutely. It is no good promoting guys without form or fitness. Once Kreuzer starts showing some of both, then we can promote him.
As for Watson, he has to get a game. Jones has had a good run and produced very little. He had his chance today and he couldn't make a go of it.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: Mantis on May 10, 2015, 10:10:48 pm
Which is funny you say that Crash. mick dropped Levi because he had what Mick thought was little form. Yet Jones plays every game with little to offer. Mick said he doesn't choose favourites, yet Mick was part of the decision to get jones in the first place. Mick needs to have one rule for all the playing group. IMO. Am I wrong to say this ?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: crashlander on May 10, 2015, 10:35:07 pm
Which is funny you say that Crash. mick dropped Levi because he had what Mick thought was little form. Yet Jones plays every game with little to offer. Mick said he doesn't choose favourites, yet Mick was part of the decision to get jones in the first place. Mick needs to have one rule for all the playing group. IMO. Am I wrong to say this ?
Malthouse must see something in him that I do not. I cannot think of any other reason for Jones still being there. Mind you, Casboult probably did need some time in the VFL. As it was, he was probably lucky to be selected this week, given his form in the VFL last week. However, he took his chance in a big way: big marks, some nice goals and a decent effort in the ruck. He still doesn't do enough, but he showed he wanted to be out there. He deserves his pay check this week.
Jones is a conundrum: he has pace and a good set of hands, but he doesn't hold enough marks and he misses goals he needs to kick. He probably won't get a better chance this season to impress than he did today, but he didn't take his chances. He took a couple of very nice marks, but made no impression on the scoreboard and did nothing on the ground (even with his pace and strength). I can understand that Malthouse may have given him an arc of 6 games or so to show his wares. But that is now up. Watson deserves a go, issues that he has not withstanding. If there is any other reason for Jones to be playing, then Malthouse and the MC have made a serious error. It would suggest favouritism that I would prefer not to see. It is time to finish this iteration up and try the next one.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: MilkIt on May 10, 2015, 11:33:38 pm
I think Jones has more leniency because he's new to the team. I think he's had a fair go and now Watson needs to come in.
Shame really, after first hearing we were into Jones I thought it was a terrible move, then after hearing comments from the club and watching some highlights I changed my opinion and thought he could be very good.
I'm starting to think I was right the first time.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on May 11, 2015, 06:43:05 am
In hindsight, we could've got more games into Watson and picked up a promising youngster with pick #42.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: DJC on May 11, 2015, 08:14:24 am
He needs to play CHB for the NBs and learn how to work.
Important detail added.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: cookie2 on May 11, 2015, 09:16:41 am
Jone's should go to the NBs and be encouraged/assisted to improve his marking and kicking for goal. When he has reached the required standard then he can again be considered for senior selection. Jone's needs to be a leading forward IMO, he's better suited to that rather than a body on body type.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 11, 2015, 09:20:56 am
Jone's should go to the NBs and be encouraged/assisted to improve his marking and kicking for goal. When he has reached the required standard then he can again be considered for senior selection. Jone's needs to be a leading forward IMO, he's better suited to that rather than a body on body type.
I'm with JH and IOT on Jones...reckon he needs to play CHB and learn some work ethic....Watosn has improved going forward and Jones may have the tools to play CHB as he is athletic. Jordan Roughead at the Bulldogs was/is similar to Jones....started his career forward and was inconsistent due to work rate but now being played back and has blossomed.....
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: Baggers on May 11, 2015, 09:21:46 am
Which is funny you say that Crash. mick dropped Levi because he had what Mick thought was little form. Yet Jones plays every game with little to offer. Mick said he doesn't choose favourites, yet Mick was part of the decision to get jones in the first place. Mick needs to have one rule for all the playing group. IMO. Am I wrong to say this ?
No, you're not wrong to say this, Green Stick. Not wrong at all.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: Blue Moon on May 11, 2015, 09:23:57 am
I think they should think about playing Jones down back. We are a little small down there at the moment and I do not think Jacsk is the answer down there yet. Plenty of forwards have gone down back and made a success and it would give him a chance to just run forward in a straight line. It would also give us a chance to play Watson. If he is going to delisted at the end of the year we should at least give him the opportunity to make his case.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: cookie2 on May 11, 2015, 09:28:34 am
I'm with JH and IOT on Jones...reckon he needs to play CHB and learn some work ethic....Watosn has improved going forward and Jones may have the tools to play CHB as he is athletic. Jordan Roughead at the Bulldogs was/is similar to Jones....started his career forward and was inconsistent due to work rate but now being played back and has blossomed.....
Could be right, worth a try I guess but we are desperate for good forwards. We are desperately lacking ones that lead/mark or have goal kicking accuracy. I guess there was a bit of light via Casboult this week. I would like to see Hendo focus on CHB personally, that's his best performed role.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: Baggers on May 11, 2015, 09:46:03 am
I'd agree, also, but apparently the bloke doesn't have much of a tank so any forward he played on would just run him around until he's knackered.
The bloke needs to go back to the NBs and spend many weeks being the no. 1 lead up forward. We got him in as the third tall... because he was no good with any greater responsibility!!! FMD. ::)
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: jeza on May 11, 2015, 10:07:12 am
Agree with the sentiment that Watson needs an extended run in the 1s.
Dropping Cas before Jones was laughable in the first place. Mick totally screwed up selection for the Pies game - not for the first time. Warnock! Really - Warnock???????
Having said that - we are not losing because of Cas, Jones or Hendo. We're losing because we have the worst skill level in the comp across the entire team - most notably in the mids and half back. Confidence is at absolute rock bottom. The focus needs to be on handball and run - not bomb long to a 3 on 1.
Having Simo, Yarran, Menzel, Kreuze and Hendo back might help. Watson is also a very good kick. As is Sheehan - maybe even Byrne could help in this department. We'll have to find a spot for Jamo the panic merchant also I guess.
Right now we look like certainties for the spoon which is bad but the skill level looks like we'd get done by the U12s.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: cookie2 on May 11, 2015, 10:20:56 am
Agree with the sentiment that Watson needs an extended run in the 1s.
Dropping Cas before Jones was laughable in the first place. Mick totally screwed up selection for the Pies game - not for the first time. Warnock! Really - Warnock???????
Having said that - we are not losing because of Cas, Jones or Hendo. We're losing because we have the worst skill level in the comp across the entire team - most notably in the mids and half back. Confidence is at absolute rock bottom. The focus needs to be on handball and run - not bomb long to a 3 on 1.
Having Simo, Yarran, Menzel, Kreuze and Hendo back might help. Watson is also a very good kick. As is Sheehan - maybe even Byrne could help in this department. We'll have to find a spot for Jamo the panic merchant also I guess.
Right now we look like certainties for the spoon which is bad but the skill level looks like we'd get done by the U12s.
Think you're on it Jeza! Just for starters, we need to find a new captain that provides on field inspiration and leadership and let Murph just worry about his own midfield role as just a senior player, we need to do something about Gibbs who is just pleasing himself atm, and we need to either move Walker forward or let him go. There are plenty of other moves also, but I think they're the ones at the core of our malaise and must be fixed if we are to even start moving forward.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: crashlander on May 11, 2015, 10:37:09 am
I'm with JH and IOT on Jones...reckon he needs to play CHB and learn some work ethic....Watosn has improved going forward and Jones may have the tools to play CHB as he is athletic. Jordan Roughead at the Bulldogs was/is similar to Jones....started his career forward and was inconsistent due to work rate but now being played back and has blossomed.....
I wouldn't complain if we tried. It makes some sense, especially as he has been found wanting as a forward. But let's do it at VFL level first. We can't afford to have too many guys learning the trade while in the seniors.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: crashlander on May 11, 2015, 11:22:01 am
2015 AFL Victoria Development League Frankston 3.0 5.2 7.3 10.6 (66) Northern Blues 4.2 5.5 10.9 12.14 (86)
Nice to know who did what, but details are minimal at this point.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: shadesy on May 11, 2015, 03:07:25 pm
Walsh Watch?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: laj on May 11, 2015, 03:21:38 pm
I think they should think about playing Jones down back. We are a little small down there at the moment and I do not think Jacsk is the answer down there yet. Plenty of forwards have gone down back and made a success and it would give him a chance to just run forward in a straight line. It would also give us a chance to play Watson. If he is going to delisted at the end of the year we should at least give him the opportunity to make his case.
McKay said over summer that Jaksch is earmarked to play forward but initially he'll develop by playing 3rd tall down back. So playing back is temporary.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 11, 2015, 03:56:56 pm
They are grooming him for another run with player though, that is my only concern.
We are the only senior side that seems to employ a tagger anymore and we have Curnow and now using Whiley.
Been getting more of the footy has Holman and I think he is less negative than Curnow or Whiley...kicked a pressure goal the week before and being a leftie I think he is a bit more constructive with the football..
Agree we dont need any more taggers but we do need some kids who can find the footy and be discplined......Holman can also play off the half back flank and is a decent size at 189cm......the way Walker was using the footy I'd take anyone back there ...
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: bigblue on May 11, 2015, 07:19:54 pm
Footballers are very lean these days, even the solid looking ones are skinny next to the average guy.
Very true! My son in law pointed out Cameron Wood to me when he was at Collingwood and I couldn't believe that he was an AFL footballer.
My son was being fitted for a suit when Hamish McIntosh came in for a fitting. My son, who is officially a centimetre or two shorter than McIntosh, made him look quite small.
A couple of seasons back, most players tried to put on a few kgs but they have all shed that weight now. If I remember correctly, Levi was well over 100kg but has now dropped to 99kg.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 12, 2015, 03:58:19 pm
Very true! My son in law pointed out Cameron Wood to me when he was at Collingwood and I couldn't believe that he was an AFL footballer.
My son was being fitted for a suit when Hamish McIntosh came in for a fitting. My son, who is officially a centimetre or two shorter than McIntosh, made him look quite small.
A couple of seasons back, most players tried to put on a few kgs but they have all shed that weight now. If I remember correctly, Levi was well over 100kg but has now dropped to 99kg.
Hawks went leaner and everyone else followed.......
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on May 12, 2015, 04:22:03 pm
It's always been the case. I remember standing next to Scott Burns at Colombo's Pizza House when he was still playing and he was quite runtish. He looked like a tank on field as well.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: ItsOurTime on May 12, 2015, 04:42:56 pm
Was standing next to Richo and he was tall but a stick insect. Kouta was big but not exactly Arnie.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 12, 2015, 05:56:52 pm
Met David Rhys Jones buying a coffee and we are both around the same height but Rhys is one bloke who looks way bigger across the shoulders in person and isnt the thin bodied winger who started at the Swans...
I'd be more than happy to see Rhys back at Carlton as I reckon he did some good work at Frankston and would be a big improvement on Luke Webster...
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: Mantis on May 12, 2015, 09:03:06 pm
Met David Rhys Jones buying a coffee and we are both around the same height but Rhys is one bloke who looks way bigger across the shoulders in person and isnt the thin bodied winger who started at the Swans...
I'd be more than happy to see Rhys back at Carlton as I reckon he did some good work at Frankston and would be a big improvement on Luke Webster...
I have heard from a few people that have watched him coach. The key thing that keeps coming up is that he knows how to keep things simple. Keep his instructions on the things that count the most. Along with he has a very good way of getting his point across, and making his instructions understood. He doesn't confuse young players as he doesn't make a process appear complicated. He also knows how to use his "I mean business voice" when needed. I haven't heard him address players myself,, but my friends have said that if he was their coach they would do what ever it takes to see his exact instructions are followed. Isn't that something we could use at our senior club at the moment.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: Thryleon on May 12, 2015, 10:29:44 pm
Kreuzer's first goal was possibly the first time I have seen a bloke deliver a footy laces out to advantage of a leading forward in a Carlton shirt in God knows how long.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: Baggers on May 13, 2015, 10:37:03 am
I have heard from a few people that have watched him coach. The key thing that keeps coming up is that he knows how to keep things simple. Keep his instructions on the things that count the most. Along with he has a very good way of getting his point across, and making his instructions understood. He doesn't confuse young players as he doesn't make a process appear complicated. He also knows how to use his "I mean business voice" when needed. I haven't heard him address players myself,, but my friends have said that if he was their coach they would do what ever it takes to see his exact instructions are followed. Isn't that something we could use at our senior club at the moment.
I've heard him address sides at various stages of games... very, very impressive. Knows how to communicate effectively.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: cookie2 on May 13, 2015, 10:43:31 am
Keeping it simple must be the key to good coaching. Out there in the heat of battle at AFL level, trying to remember too many instructions is probably futile with opposition pressure often at very intense levels. Thinking time would be minimal and often instincts take over, as they do in real battles.
Simple instructions without too many options or need to think too deeply would be the most effective for all but the most gifted players.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: jeza on May 13, 2015, 03:02:36 pm
Kreuzer's first goal was possibly the first time I have seen a bloke deliver a footy laces out to advantage of a leading forward in a Carlton shirt in God knows how long.
Smith did one in the first quarter last week. I remember thinking the same thing. Not a common occurrence.
Kreuze second goal - the big grab was a cracker.
Makes me nervous that they'll want to play him as a permanent forward though. Which has been tried - and failed.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: Mantis on May 13, 2015, 08:01:50 pm
Kreuzer will have to be tried up forward to see if anything has changed with him now that he is older.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: Thryleon on May 13, 2015, 10:54:32 pm
It's better for his body anyway. Until he gets his fitness up and rebuilds confidence he might as well play as a forward and do the ruck work at that end of the ground.
I wonder if there is a correlation between Kreuzer's availability and Casboult's accuracy...
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: DJC on May 13, 2015, 11:04:18 pm
I would prefer to see Kreuzer have another couple of runs in the NBs; at least one more with a good percentage as a key forward, then one doing the bulk of the ruck work.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: Juddkreuzer on May 14, 2015, 12:15:51 am
I would prefer to see Kreuzer have another couple of runs in the NBs; at least one more with a good percentage as a key forward, then one doing the bulk of the ruck work.
I respect the notion, but K-man is better than a Warnock or Casboult in the ruck everyday of the week.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: DJC on May 14, 2015, 01:03:18 am
I would prefer to see Kreuzer have another couple of runs in the NBs; at least one more with a good percentage as a key forward, then one doing the bulk of the ruck work.
Likewise. Reckon the club will give him play him in the NBs again and see how he pulls up before deciding on the next step.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs. Frankston on Sunday
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 14, 2015, 01:49:45 pm
Mumford is the form ruckman of the competition... Wood is going to have to be specially prepared for this one, he'll need some mongrel as well.
Spot on Baggers. Its a real shame Kruze got re-injured and isn't ready. This would be the type of contest he would relish, two competitive animals going at it is what both these two live for.