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Princes Park => Robert Heatley Stand => Topic started by: bratblue on May 14, 2015, 02:21:12 pm

Title: Bell for Captain
Post by: bratblue on May 14, 2015, 02:21:12 pm
I've been tossing up between Bell and White for a new captain and settled on Bell as he gets on the park more often for a start.

Bell's improvement has been one of the few highlights of the year. If he keeps that going then he'll be a real weapon with that big body of his.  He's showing. plenty of aggression and would make a lot of his lighter team mates stand taller. He's strong enough to take the extra attention that captaincy brings which Murf struggles with.

For vice captain I'll have White and deputy vice Cripps.
Title: Re: Bell for Captain
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 14, 2015, 02:52:23 pm
Bell? Dunno if he is vocal enough or extroverted enough. We dont want to go down the track of appointing another mute. I would be more inclined to pick White who has mongrel, seems vocal (at training at least) and doesnt take a backward step. One thing I know for certain, Murphy is not the man for the job.
Title: Re: Bell for Captain
Post by: cookie2 on May 14, 2015, 03:24:10 pm
No doubt Bell has improved his on field performances but he's a retiring type IMO and he doesn't seem to relish the square ups. White would be my choice of those two but I'm not even sure about him tbh.
Title: Re: Bell for Captain
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 14, 2015, 04:01:30 pm
I would go White if he can stay on the park with Bell and Cripps as my VC's .....Brad Walsh when he makes it onto the senior list would also be on
my future leaders list.
Title: Re: Bell for Captain
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 14, 2015, 04:10:15 pm
I would go White if he can stay on the park with Bell and Cripps as my VC's .....Brad Walsh when he makes it onto the senior list would also be on
my future leaders list.
Yep.
Title: Re: Bell for Captain
Post by: cimm1979 on May 14, 2015, 04:49:47 pm
Given the skipper is the face of the club and does a crap load of media, I don't think Tom is the man for the job.

Poison chalice I reckon.

Just let him play footy, he's getting much, much better. His last few games have been bordering on a B+ midfielder, something I never thought he'd achieve.
Title: Re: Bell for Captain
Post by: Lods on May 14, 2015, 05:04:47 pm
The captain needs to be an established player.
There can be no doubt about him holding a position in the clubs best 22.
If all players are available they still need to fit that criteria.

You could argue both Bell and White are well on their way to establishing themselves in that position, based on this season's form...can they maintain it, is the question?

Cripps on the other hand strikes me as the ideal candidate.
Give him another 12 months.
He could be a 10 year+ leader for us.




Title: Re: Bell for Captain
Post by: ItsOurTime on May 14, 2015, 05:16:29 pm
The captain needs to be an established player.
There can be no doubt about him holding a position in the clubs best 22.
If all players are available they still need to fit that criteria..

We're like that person who comes out of a relationship and couldn't stand a couple of the things their partner used to do. They are so focussed on those particular short comings that as long as someone exhibits the opposite of what they have the hung up over, they're blind to striking problems.

Anyway, I have to run. Prison visiting hours close in an hour, it's a half hour drive and I'd like to see the new gf today.

 ;D
Title: Re: Bell for Captain
Post by: Baggers on May 14, 2015, 05:27:45 pm
The captain needs to be an established player.
There can be no doubt about him holding a position in the clubs best 22.
If all players are available they still need to fit that criteria.

You could argue both Bell and White are well on their way to establishing themselves in that position, based on this season's form...can they maintain it, is the question?

Cripps on the other hand strikes me as the ideal candidate.
Give him another 12 months.
He could be a 10 year+ leader for us.

Yep, agree with Principal LODS. Cripps in a year or two... with Hendo as the other potential future Skipper.
Title: Re: Bell for Captain
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on May 14, 2015, 05:30:27 pm
White as skipper oh dear God what have we become. No offence, especially to Elwood.
Title: Re: Bell for Captain
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 14, 2015, 06:10:58 pm
Yep, agree with Principal LODS. Cripps in a year or two... with Hendo as the other potential future Skipper.
Not Hendo. No different to Murphy IMO, just too bloody nice for what our group needs.
Title: Re: Bell for Captain
Post by: Thryleon on May 14, 2015, 07:24:27 pm
I reckon Docherty is the only youngster we have capable of being captain if we made the decision today.

Aside from him it's Henderson.

The others look more like down the track captains.
Title: Re: Bell for Captain
Post by: madbluboy on May 14, 2015, 07:40:16 pm
The average supporter has no idea who would make a good captain.
Title: Re: Bell for Captain
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 14, 2015, 07:50:56 pm
White as skipper oh dear God what have we become. No offence, especially to Elwood.

Thats ok Carrots, cant agree on everything...I'm working on the Nick Maxwell/ Tom Harley ordinary player/better captain theory......your mate Mick had to turn to Maxwell given
the factions at Collingwood, Harley was a similar story at Geelong.
While White isnt everyones idea of the pin up captain I think the idea has merit while we develop some young leaders...dont think it will happen though as I dont see the present admin
allowing a Blue Collar captain as its face of the club especially with White transgressing with that night club incident...both Maxwell and Harley were cleanskins when appointed..
Title: Re: Bell for Captain
Post by: Amers on May 14, 2015, 08:20:57 pm
Cripps would be my choice for our next captain. Maybe a bit early right now, but in a year or two ....
Title: Re: Bell for Captain
Post by: Mantis on May 14, 2015, 08:21:48 pm
Bell or White would be good for now, and definitely Cripps in a couple of seasons. Let him get his confidence high and ready for the responsibility. ;)
Title: Re: Bell for Captain
Post by: townsendcalling on May 15, 2015, 02:04:49 pm
Malthouse today:

'We wanted White back in because of leadership and his experience and his strength, so someone has to make way," Malthouse said.'

He must see something there.