Start of a new era.
Hopefully the start of the journey upwards.
Go Blues :D
We're paying $17.00 win
Have a shilling on it ;)
LATE CHANGES
Sydney Swans: Heath Grundy (quad) replaced in selected side by Brandon Jack
Carlton: Nil
FINAL INTERCHANGES
Sydney Swans: Tom Mitchell, Harry Cunningham, Jeremy Laidler
Substitute: Brandon Jack
Carlton: Sam Docherty, Jason Tutt, Nick Graham
Substitute: Dylan Buckley
Lucky daisy can kick :/
White you absolute goose.
Oh and Frankiln is a wunker
Put Cripps on Franklin
First move for the new coach. White off Buddy!!!
Not sure White can do much if the Swans are free to deliver the ball like that.
I have gaffer tape over the Ch 7 score graphic. Its better that way :)
We look like a side in need of a "real" match. Have to "re-learn" a running game.
Which is why he shouldn't give away free kicks like that!
Why do our blokes stand so far off opponents when we haven't got the ball, Sydney can just thread the needle and we don't even touch it! Even worse this is the SCG, a small ground!
Franklin straight out shoved Rowe square in the back in front of an umpire and wasn't penalised, Rowe retaliates and Franklin gets a free!
10 tackles already!
He got sucked in, can't afford to, especially at full back.
THat was pi55weak from Bell! Absolutely weak.
Enterprising start. A bit of run and tight around the contest.
Lack class at either end.
Nice build up - Bell misses.
And after 2 years (or is it 3) I get my wish - Walks up forward. Woo Hoo !
Gee the umps know how to kick a side when they are down.
Great tackle by Thomas on Franklin!
Fking Thomas you idiot.
Curnow what a dickhead! Why do we give away goals so late.. ffs
Had to believe that Bell has only played 38 games. Seems to have been around for a long time!!
Ruined what would have been a good quarter..
Umpires are screwing us.
Curnow.. Stupid
But how is that not a push and Cripps gets penalised?
We always play 21 don't we?
Bad work by Curnow, but he pushed him in the back. The not long earlier a perfect tackle by us is a push in the back to them! What's with the phuking umpires. Free kicks 8-3 to them!
We've had 17 tackles!!!
THIS^^^
The frigging AFL need to have a good hard look at how we are treated every Frigging game.
I dont mind losing when it is FRIGGING FAIR not this crap the umps are dishing up every Frigging week. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
So over this Channel seven commentary.
Just see Stuey Dew, future coach
Where do they get those stats?
Cant we man up or cant we kick?
Cant we just play good footy?
Liam Jones is a massive SPUD...no an ONION, it brings tears to your eyes
Tough game to "re-learn" how to play footy again.
Hey I'm impressed with our hard tackling. Let's see if we can keep it up.
We are showing more spunk without our supposed illustrious leaders ::)
Casboult just bereft of any confidence. No longer attacking the marking contest. Playing like a broken man.
This umpiring is so bloody bias are you sure FIFA aren't running this comp?
There's just so much to have to re-develop again. We as rusty as hell.
Our skills are awful but the endeavour is there. Finally.
Cripps and Graham have been great.
Delivery into the forward line embarrassing.
Are you allowed to do two actions in the ruck, a blatant push and then a tap. The Swans do it all the time.
No the umpiring is embarrassing, that Everitt holding ball was just laughable.
Henderson STILL dropping overhead marks with pressure behind him.
Tippet is a spud....
We have to totally re-learn" the ability to run again. Not exactly the side to do that against.
We can't hide White anywhere.
Its watching Netball..... CONTACT
Frees 11-3 swans
We look harder in the centre without murph and gibbs...
This will be evened up after half time once the game is out of our reach >:(
Yeh, playing like Henderson
is Henderson and Walker playing or are they resting with our leaders?
Is yarran playing?
How many laps does Buddy have to do in the tackle before a free is paid.
I don't know which is worse.. the commentary or umpiring!! McAvaney needs the calm down!!
Would we get a first round pick for Hendo?
And people want him Captain....yeh righto.
He would be in the list of Captains coming right after Holman
What did Goodes just do there?
Just no run. Doing most other things but without run one won't go anywhere.
Hendo not match fit and playing like he needs a run.
Cripps is a shining light.
Tutt struggles to get a clear disposal.
Jones wouldn't know how to lead to the ball to save himself.
Did I mention Cripps?
Oh and we can't buy a free kick.
Tutt is scareD
Lucky this is a small ground.
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Simpson is the only one taking overhead marks
True they look like they're running on the spot.
But the skill errors are murdering them. And have the whole year. Which is why the whole we had a great prw season thing is rubbish.
Defensive 1%ers are ok - tackles, pressure acts.
The rest is letting us down.
Some of the Swans free kicks are beyond absurd, and beyond soft.
Our free tally for the qtr leads our goal tally by 1!!!
Edit: Now level.
Tutt seems to always where the ball is
he needs to develop poise
he shows more than jones at least
2 goals up to 1/2 time. Rock n Roll.
Keep your feet Yarran!
Henderson also protecting himself for Geelong next year.
Jones is genuinely trying, but simply doesnt have it.
How is that not an illegal disposal on Goodes??
Aren't you allowed to tackle Goodes? :o
Another HTB to us missed!!!
Barker needs to create history here...burn $5000 for criticising umpires in his first game.
Skill. Skill. Skill.
WTF did they do pre season? How can their skills be below VFL level.
Waaaaaay overrated, has put in a few insipid efforts tonight.
Umpiring un-f-king-believable
This is a joke.
Just as infuriating as watching it is listening to the commentators ignore it.
Second half, just tell the players to run and take it on. If we get pumped so be it. We just have to learn how to get that aspect of our game going again. Haven't seen it since Round 23 last year.
You are right Laj, it must be brought to the attention of everybody.
What is the free kick count?
Tackles up to 34. Think that equals our total 4 qtr "effort" from the last few games.
Commentators r even more insidious now...they completely gloss over umpires now. ...not critical just Endorsement of all umpires decisions and non decisions....
Hard to do against Sydney on that narrow ground - run that is. And I also don't think they have the fitness to sustain a running game.
I had issues with Ratten as a coach but since he left our run has vanished. And the fitness that went with it.
What about Nick Graham getting slung out of a scrimmage without the ball and just ignored?
They've definitely put in. Cripps has laid a good chunk of those.
Macavaney is parodied perfectly by the third man... "Jetta.... Goodes... Budd.....y uh uh uh. Special".
Goodes celebration was a joke.
What a w@nker.
Scoreline flatters Swans. Our blokes their own worst enemy though. Letting themselves down with kicking constantly.
Lots of frees missed for us, mute button ON
Ling is an arse!
I dont even think they are allowed to question the umps.
Pretty clear why people boo Goodes.
Run and flair has been completely lost under Mick. Just have to do it and "re-learn" it again. Not easy.
Fox having a crack over Goodes and his war dance. Thank God for Goodes, no one will be talking about Carlton and its crisis this week.
We have no outside runners and no forwards. Good on the inside, esp. Cripps.
Our basic skill level is atrocious.
Yes it has. There's not much pace in the side either. Yarran. Menzel. Who else? Armfield?
Booing Goodes is stupid... the footy media are going to overlook the obvious and accuse Carlton supporters of being racist. The last thing this club needs right now.
Happy with the effort I think we are really trying, umpires are frustrating and swans a bit cleaner, frustrating to watch G Laidler >:(
Tutt tries but fork me he is awful. With Casboult and Henderson playing so poorly and Jones just being a spud we have no chance even when we do get it forward.
The umpires have given us nothing but we're getting spanked anyway, Sydney are just too slick and have some forwards.
Cripps is a real talent and I've been pleased with Graham, Simmo probably our best so far.
Curnow is sloppy and Bell's made some uncharacteristic mistakes, Jones is beyond bad, it's time we cut our losses with him.
Probably about a 12 or 14 goal loss coming up, which is about what most of us would have expected against a top side missing our three best players.
I agree cookie. perfect summary.
The problem is probably to do with all of our forwards being sucked out into the midfield and backline to try to help out and then when we get it forward you've got Levi one on 4.
Mick would drop him after a game like that BTW.
Cripps 16 possies 12 contested. Imagine he wasn't out there? Clearly captaincy material.
feel better mick has gone...now the spotlight will be firmly on the players...no excuses
welcome to ground zero in bottom out land
It was never going to be easy. Really happy we have matched and entire game tackle score in half a match so far. Especially against close to the best side in the AFL on their ground. Missing Judd, Murphy and Gibbs. Lets take their best 3 mids out for half a game and see how they play. Big difference in the score but a way better attempt by us so far. Take the game on and run as a group in the second half guys.
But it is good fun to boo our Juddy?
Nick Graham needs to greatly improve his core strength because he gets knocked of the ball far too easily.
good summary Rowe is doing OK
I've never heard Judd sook over being booed.
X2 cant get core strength wallowing in the reserves...
4 quarters of that would be good.
Yes. Absolutely. He stands up and won't take crap. I hope though they don't think about it for next year. Let him develop.
If the clown Jones could hold a mark we would be a lot closer.
What Graham has done is good but nowhere near enough of it.
He's become our best defender. Which is frightening if you think about it. But he's been excellent on Franklin.
I'd switch White up forward and play Hendo back. He doesn't want to mark the ball so might as well force him to punch it.
Agree, but there's definitely something there to work with. It may just be a focus thing.
He gets dropped too often to gain enough self confidence and belief IMO.
I'll never understand booing Judd. Unless it was for that chicken wing thing he did on North.
The pointless thing about booing Goodes is he's pretty much irrelevant these days. Faded. That dance thing he did tonight was complete w@nk though. If he comes out and says it is for some racist fan I'd be skeptical.
He is indeed, our only contributor over 6'3".
Jamison and Kreuzer would help a bit but until we get some quality big blokes we won't be going anywhere.
He could do more, but to be fair the guy never gets a chance to get used to the speed of AFL. He's been good around the ball, but has mentioned above has been a scragged as well. Interesting to see if he goes missing in the second half.
We need to find ways of keeping the play in our F50. God knows how ATM, our pressure there is poor and the Swans get it out so easily. On the other hand we have to work like Trojans to get it past our HB line.
Sack Barker, he put Henderson down back and we looked solid in the second half of the first quarter, then he goes back forward in the second quarter as we get sweet FA. Henderson is not a forward.
Tutt looks scared to bend down, we got rid of Garlett for the same thing. Carrazzo looks old.
Cripps and Simpson playing well Rowe doing his best.
Menzel, Yarran again doing an impression of invisible men.
With Yarran, first let me say how much I love watching Chris play, my son asked me for a number and he got 13 on his jumper, but FFS Yazz use your pace. It seems that when ever another team has quick players he won't take the game on.
Graham ok, but nothing different to any of his games so far, get some possies but doesn't hurt the opposition with them.
No outside run is killing us. With run skill level improves alot due to space created. Makes being a forward very tough without run and carry.
Mick Martin must love seeing Liam Jones out there knowing he's now not the worst Carlton recruit.
Wood flukey goal, but we'll take it.
The swines don't pick up the ball, they feel the tackle and sort of throw/flip the ball out in front, normally to their supreme advantage....
Wood held at every single ruck contest, but the guide dogs are asleep... on the few occasions he wins a knock out we look dangerous.
Mcavaney just left a white smear in his pants over Buddy's goal.
Just shows the commentators don't have any idea or choose to ignore that we are number 1 for clearances in the AFL.. why do they sound so surprised?
Another nice build up. good mark by Cripps. Goal.
Cripps is massive
Cripps, you are da man.
nice throw Goodes.
Geez Everitt is soft as butter.
Casboult must kick 50 even if he marks it in the goalsquare...lol!
Nice mark and goal Cas.
Cas on Laids. Nice to see a mismatch in our favour for a change.
Did Menzel get on the plane??
Woods winning in the centre... now we look better.
Yarran...no impact at all.
Armfield needs to go. He puts in and is quick but he's an up and under kicker. You can't rely on him to deliver into our forward line.
Craey repeated digs at Tippett.
Menzel is lazy...no intensity. ...
He's really struggling. Gets sucked up the ground far too much.
Casboult is definitely a confidence players. Key is to get him on the ball, take a few grabs and he plays well both in the ruck and up forward. If he's stuck forward and not much happens the confidence can go from him very quickly.
Like to somehow lose by less than 5-6 goals. Be a step.
Another regulation mark dropped by Henderson.
Weak as piss buddy, Carrots not small enough for ya?
Confidence is phuked. Play him back and White forward. Can't be any worse.
By why are we kicking to the pocket all the time. Why didn't Levi centre that?
Sydney boys just sucked us in fir that free
Are these umps serious?
Another weak 50.
Rowe ok as acting captain.
Carey has picked Tippett as a flat track bully.... dodgy knees and a big contract...
Umpires won't let us bridge the gap, must be worried about the swines' percentage.
Yep...henderson is weak with his hands...
I guess he kicked to where Hendo led. Old gameplan said stick to the boundary.
Sydney get a free, half a dozen swans push our player on the mark, Carlton players come in. 50 meter penalty.
Umpires are really taking the PxxxS trying hard but up against 24 at Caz is kicking straight :) :)
These umpires are phuked.
How is Goodes on his own like that. The heads have dropped. But again the frees against us have been rubbish.
Ridiculous state of affairs that seems to get worse rather than better.
Another throw out the middle.
Swine smust think Cripps is good - they're targeting him.
Looking at that you could start a cricket match in our forward 50. No-one there.
Booooo
Score differential creeping up. See if the boys can keep their heads.
Idiot Touhy. Just handball it straight to him next time why don'y you.
Our concentration as dropped after an encouraging period.
Would rather invest with Sheehan and Byrne back there.
Why isn't Jaksch having a crack?
Look at our forward 50...empty!
Why do our blokes always fall over!
3/4 time can't come soon enough. Boys look like they're starting to unravel.
I've been asking that same question for years.
Showed something for a while but lost it completely in the last 15 min.
Yep.
Menzel subbed out, apparently his leg is no good.
We're a crap team no matter who coaches us.
I know, he's young and needs to be played. Have to be better than Jones.
See why he's been no good tonight.
Doesn't feel like a belting, umpires clearly favouring Swannies just need to hang tough which they have done so far tonight, Good effort so far given the outs Hendo is rusty will get better, Thomas OK tonight I thought
I think Carrazzo is finished, one goal in his last 30 games and he has no impact at all these days.
With Cripps, Bell and Graham coming through I think Carratts should get the tap on the shoulder.
Did it take 3 quarters to work that out? ;)
Watson certainly wasn't better than Jones and that's saying something.
Carrots was finished 2 years ago...
It's never a good game in Sydney of a night time, the ball and ground are always greasy.
Henderson must go the the backline, next week. Bring KJ in for Jones, then play him forward.
How bad are we with the footy in our hands??? Fecking terrible......got a sore neck from constantly shaking my head.
Get ready for party time with the Swans in this quarter.......
If Mick didn't get sacked no one would be calling this a good effort.
Good ones Buckley. Nice to see him playing up forward.
Have to regain some run and flair that was murdered unmercifully under Mick. Won't come for a while and certainly not against Sydney.
Three prime mids out, a couple coming in after long lay offs.
Pity that out of all the Irishmen we've got on our list, the worst one is the only fit one......
Any positive thoughts about our players??? bit sick of the doomsayers, sorry the ump s don't count
Armfield legged but its HTB...WTF???
No excuses. Malthouse is gone and we still get embarrassed.
Will happen when you get 35 tackles for a whole game as it has been. Much bigger count tonight.
We're awesome, you should totally watch this game if you get the chance, you don't know what you're missing. So many fine users of the footy, I don't know where to start......
Happy?
It's a scandal. Nothing more, nothing less.
FCUK
Cripps best, Everitt has been effective, a lot of triers like Casboult, Bell, Rowe, Simmo, Wood, Dennis etc but absolutely nothing from Touhy, Menzel, Yarran, Henderson, Jones, Walker, Tutts ( F up merchant); Thomas ok I guess but overall not enough class..... but they had a go. Unrewarded but they had a go.
Hey Brettie
I watch every week every game for the last 30 years what's your point
You can almost feel MBB barracking for Sydney. Forgets it'll take absolute weeks to undo the terrible damage that Mick did.
Embarrassing!!!!!
DELIBERATE!
Whit what
As second halves go this has been one of our better ones this year.
Bring Back Mick!
makes you wonder if this effort was brought against Richmond and Brisbane.
9 goals - wow.
Great effort tonight!
Geez - Bruce got a lot of support in the box when he said it was the best we've played for 5 weeks.....nada!!! I completely agree with him btw......
You're a bigger fool the way you're carrying on. If you think Mick was going to do any good for us then you know nothing about football or you're related to him. We were totally phuked. Now we have to spend weeks fixing his mess. Not that I'd expect you to be even remotely capable of seeing it. And you call other's fools! Maybe you embrace losing.
Embarrassing!!!
Not call others fools, just you.
Henderson has been bloody poor tonight.
Goodes celebration was something ridiculous. No wonder people boo him. No other players celebrate like that towards opposition fans.
Didn't get to see the game, but sounds like we did ok.
Henderson looks mighty disinterested.
We won the final 1/4 - sky's the limit.
Daisy Thomas should hand back his cheque....
He's never been more than an average footballer but at Carlton he looks like a champ.
I'm completely over Jones, it's like playing a man short every week.
WHY IS HENDERSON USELESS I UNDERSTAND WHY LIAM JONES IS BUT I AM AT A LOSS COULD SOMEONE EXPLAIN WHY HE CAN NOT MARK KICK OR KICK FOR GOAL EFFECTIVELY""..........."............................l....l..ll.llll.ll............
Henderson can't play forward against good defenders. Make him a permanent CHB.
Who cares...if hes not interested. ..trade him..
Doesn't want to mark the ball enough to actually mark it. No hunger.
Cast your mind back, can you remember him taking a big pack mark at any time?
We think he's a good player because most of our big blokes are hopeless, compared to Watson and Jones he's a gun.
If a non aboriginal did something as aggressive as that they would at least be fined.
Leave Henderson alone guys. Its obvious we will be getting picks for him to move to Geelong. It couldn't be more obvious. I am really excited we actually got the tackle rate above 60 for the game. Although we looked very fatigued in the 2nd half. Jones needs to be packed in bubble wrap and boxed up. Sent to Taiwan and left there to grow rice, dig holes, or become a giggalo. He has no use at our club. Never liked him. Dogs never felt they lost anything. Thanks Mick for a real steal there. Can we please have the bag of peanuts back that we used for the trade. It better at least be a half full bag, or we are at a loss.