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Princes Park => Robert Heatley Stand => Topic started by: ItsOurTime on February 24, 2016, 12:20:02 pm

Title: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: ItsOurTime on February 24, 2016, 12:20:02 pm
Whenever you get a change of coach, you often get a player or two who steps it up under the new regime.

I'm going with Buckley to take it to the next level and flourish under Bolton's more positive approach.

Other suggestions?
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: PaulP on February 24, 2016, 12:33:00 pm
I think sometimes Buckley is a little rough with his ball use. With Bolts coming from the Hawks, Bucks might need time to endear himself to the coach.

I'm going Boekhorst. Reckon he could be a poor man's Isaac Smith if things work out. I dream a lot these days.
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: flyboy77 on February 24, 2016, 12:47:27 pm
Clem Smith.

Looking fit.
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on February 24, 2016, 01:01:37 pm
I'm going Boekhorst...looks well prepared for this season and has the added incentive of being in the last year of his contract and being a controversial Rogers selection I think he will know he needs a big year to stay on the list.
I enjoy watching him play and reckon he can be an exciting player, can take a good mark, can carry the ball with some style and kick a good goal....

Matthew Wright would be my other pick to establish himself in the team and be a favourite with supporters...
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: tonyo on February 24, 2016, 01:55:37 pm

Levi......
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on February 24, 2016, 01:56:54 pm
I'm going Boekhorst...looks well prepared for this season and has the added incentive of being in the last year of his contract and being a controversial Rogers selection I think he will know he needs a big year to stay on the list.
I enjoy watching him play and reckon he can be an exciting player, can take a good mark, can carry the ball with some style and kick a good goal....

Agree 100%. Add Nicky G Banger to the list as well.
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: DJC on February 24, 2016, 02:05:41 pm
I reckon Kerridge will just shade Boekhorst but there could be plenty of competition.
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: Thryleon on February 24, 2016, 02:24:19 pm
We really need it to be Jaksch.

Although anyone will be fine.

Kerridge, Lamb, Boekhorst are the most likely types, and it could even be Whiley based on the game vs Hawthorn.

I think that the 2014 recruitment period is going to be viewed in a different light by the end of it, and people might change their view significantly on what it meant for our footyball club by the time Bolton is finished.
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: shadesy on February 24, 2016, 02:25:49 pm
Clem Smith.

Looking fit.

x2
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: LP on February 24, 2016, 02:32:09 pm
x2

x3

He looks leaner, fitter and hardened,  I wonder if his endurance has improved?

He also looks a lot older, maybe it's the shave, but could this change in appearance be the true price that kids pay for being an AFL player?
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: DJC on February 24, 2016, 02:48:16 pm
We really need it to be Jaksch.

Although anyone will be fine.

Kerridge, Lamb, Boekhorst are the most likely types, and it could even be Whiley based on the game vs Hawthorn.

I think that the 2014 recruitment period is going to be viewed in a different light by the end of it, and people might change their view significantly on what it meant for our footyball club by the time Bolton is finished.

You could be right Thry, but I have one word to say in response: Jones.
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: cookie2 on February 24, 2016, 02:53:33 pm
I would love the big Levi to come storming onto the scene and become a KPF superstar!  8)

Maybe I'm asking a bit much but if he could really start bagging some goals it would be great.

With Jones DJC, sorry mate you're dreamin, (but maybe I am too!)
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: Thryleon on February 24, 2016, 03:13:39 pm
You could be right Thry, but I have one word to say in response: Jones.

Imagine he actually has some sort of payoff?  His deal for pick 47 is coming from a long way back so it doesnt need to be a large one either just a decent contribution for the next 2 seasons before Harry Mckay takes his role.
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on February 24, 2016, 05:54:20 pm
I reckon Kerridge will just shade Boekhorst but there could be plenty of competition.


I think Kerridge is a given...reminds me a bit of the Heath Scotland scenario at Collingwood where he was squeezed out due to strong depth rather than being a poor player.
Boekhorst's career is on the line and I for one will be trying to will him over the line for another contract as I feel he has carried some extra pressure...
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: cimm1979 on February 24, 2016, 06:18:53 pm
Late Friday i said NG might struggle for best 22 but I watched NGs game again and although He's got limitations his vision, decision making and finishing is first class.

If maintaining possession is crucial he might be just be an important player.

Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: Amers on February 24, 2016, 06:20:40 pm
Whiley is my nomination.

If they can find a way to get Jaksch on the park playing regular senior footy, that would be a huge win too.
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: jeza on February 24, 2016, 07:47:56 pm
While his bum points south Jones won't be a footballer.

NG can kick a goal - not a strength of our team. I like him moving between wing / half forward. An important role.

Kerridge is a no-brainer at this stage but I'd love to see a couple of the GWS boys come good - Jaksch & Lamb.
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: Rational_Expectations on February 24, 2016, 09:08:29 pm
Good thread.

Dale Thomas.
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: DJC on February 24, 2016, 09:27:19 pm
While his bum points south Jones won't be a footballer.

NG can kick a goal - not a strength of our team. I like him moving between wing / half forward. An important role.

Kerridge is a no-brainer at this stage but I'd love to see a couple of the GWS boys come good - Jaksch & Lamb.

I can see Jones doing Jacko style donkey kicks . . . no, on second thoughts I really can't  :(
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: LoveNavy on February 24, 2016, 10:56:42 pm
Clem Smith.

I am hopeful that Dale Thomas will also bolt. now that he's free from the shackles of coach-enmeshment, and fit.
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: Juddkreuzer on February 24, 2016, 11:13:27 pm
Hopefully one of the GWS boys can take the step that thrusts them into the status of an elite footballer. Jaksch, Plowman, Phillips, Sumner, Lamb or Whiley. We get one and it's a win but I believe we can do better than that.
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: sandsmere on February 25, 2016, 05:33:59 am
Daisey and Plowman.

Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: Gointocarlton on February 25, 2016, 07:56:38 am
BB for mine. His run, carry and deliver style will be much suited to Bolts game plan.
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: flyboy77 on February 25, 2016, 08:02:32 am
Daisey and Plowman.

Plowman's an interesting one - and lagely flown under the radar - hip surgery in late '15 - no doubt set him back to a degree.

But taken at #3 in his draft (2012) so must have some serious ability - see below for a list of some others in the 2012 first round eg Wines, Stringer, Menzel, Jaksch. Listed on the Giants' web site at 193cm, 91kg. Good size.

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With a terrific ability to win the contested ball in the air and at ground level, Plowman is a poised player with good decision-making skills.
- See more at: http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/player-profile/lachlan-plowman#sthash.tcfIFV6a.dpuf

So he can play KPP, certainly as 3rd defender. A lot of (hopefully) not career altering injuries thus far in his career.

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He said it: “He's a very, very good player. Key defenders are hard to find and he's just a ripper kid who is very optimistic. He's a good kick and he seems to make impeccable decisions.”

- A GWS scout speaking to the Herald Sun prior to Plowman being drafted.

What we can expect: The highly rated Plowman could slot straight into Carlton’s back six in 2016, particularly given Lachie Henderson’s departure. He has a terrific ability to win the ball in the air and at ground level, along with poise and good decision-making skills. He has drawn comparisons to three-time Geelong premiership player Andrew Mackie.

Will 2016 be cruelled by his late start?

The 2012 top 12 (shows how highly Plowman was rated):

1 GWS: LACHIE WHITFIELD, 18, Dandenong Stingrays (Vic), midfielder, 184cm, 77kg
2. GWS: JONATHAN O'ROURKE, 18, Calder Cannons (Vic), midfielder, 183cm, 73kg
3. GWS: LACHIE PLOWMAN, 18, Calder Cannons (Vic), defender, 192cm, 84kg
4. MELBOURNE: JIMMY TOUMPAS, 18, Woodville-West Torrens (SA), midfielder, 182cm, 78kg
5. WESTERN BULLDOGS: JAKE STRINGER, 18, Bendigo Pioneers (Vic), forward, 190cm, 93kg
6. WESTERN BULLDOGS: JACKSON MACRAE, 18, Oakleigh Chargers (Vic), midfielder, 188cm, 78kg
7. PORT ADELAIDE: OLIVER WINES, 18, Bendigo Pioneers (Vic), midfielder, 188cm, 90kg
8. BRISBANE LIONS: SAM MAYES, 18, North Adelaide (SA), forward, 187cm, 78kg
9. RICHMOND: NICK VLASTUIN, 18, Northern Knights (Vic), midfielder/defender, 186cm, 85kg
10. ESSENDON: JOE DANIHER, 18, Calder Cannons (Vic), forward/ruckman, 201cm, 89kg (father-son selection)
11. CARLTON: TROY MENZEL, 18, Central District (SA), forward/midfielder, 186cm, 77kg
12. GWS: KRISTIAN JAKSCH, 18, Oakleigh Chargers (Vic), forward/defender, 194cm, 83kg



Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/2012-afl-draft-the-order-of-selection-20121122-29sad.html#ixzz417ZyA9zs
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Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: DJC on March 07, 2016, 01:55:34 pm
Howard Kotton from AFL.com.au reckons it will be PI2C's Nick Graham:

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  In his fourth season Nick Graham appears ready to take the next step in his development. The blond midfielder has recovered from a foot problem that caused him to miss the last nine games in 2015 and has been impressive in the Blues' two NAB Challenge matches this year. The 2012 Morrish medallist, 21, struggled to have an impact under former coach Mick Malthouse, being one of the emergencies on three occasions and starting substitute once early last season. But he flourished once given an opportunity in the midfield by interim coach John Barker after several superb performances for the Northern Blues in the VFL. The former Gippsland Under 18s player has an excellent work ethic and generally picks the right option. He is out of contract at the end of this season and will be keen to make his mark early. - Howard Kotton 
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: LP on March 07, 2016, 02:04:12 pm
Howard Kotton from AFL.com.au reckons it will be PI2C's Nick Graham:

No doubt if he can get a decent run at it injury free.

I think that is the key for many of our list, get a decent injury free go and we should see form, skills, confidence and consistency improve.
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: cookie2 on March 07, 2016, 02:52:53 pm
Wasn't convinced re. Nick G at first but I really think he has started to show something as his time with us has progressed. I think he will become a very handy player and will complement Cripps very well in our midfield. I also  like the fact that he will not be pushed around and is prepared to fly the flag when needed.

Despite all of that though, I would love our bolter to be Levi as that's where we really need one!
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: sandsmere on March 08, 2016, 09:17:54 am
I certainly agree about Nick Graham.
Starting to look like a very very handy player.
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: LP on March 08, 2016, 01:30:50 pm
I certainly agree about Nick Graham.
Starting to look like a very very handy player.

The last decade has been tough for young midfielders at Carlton. Coached by a previous Carlton midfield great resulting in high expectations, judged relative to Judd, Murphy and Carrazzo, coached by a defensive coach who wanted stoppages and shutdowns.

Now it seems they have a coach prepared to strike a better balance, and have lost that almost unobtainable expectation to match it with Judd.
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: Amers on March 08, 2016, 02:12:41 pm
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2016-03-08/graham-i-need-to-be-brutal

Here's hoping he can have a really good year !!
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: DJC on March 08, 2016, 02:55:44 pm
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2016-03-08/graham-i-need-to-be-brutal

Here's hoping he can have a really good year !!

If reward for effort is any guide, he will.

It's always good to read about our players taking responsibility for improving their footy.
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: ItsOurTime on March 08, 2016, 06:07:28 pm
Bring on the G-Train  ;D
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: LP on March 09, 2016, 08:26:45 am
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2016-03-08/graham-i-need-to-be-brutal

Here's hoping he can have a really good year !!

AFL is a brutal business, but there is a difference between brutal and bastardry, just ask Hodge or Cyril "Chicken Wing" Rioli! ;)
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: Jofo on March 09, 2016, 09:41:14 pm
I like Jesse Glass-McCasker. Ive watched him train and he's a good size and moves very well. I think he will make great key back once his strength and stamina improve.
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on March 09, 2016, 10:11:07 pm
I like Jesse Glass-McCasker. Ive watched him train and he's a good size and moves very well. I think he will make great key back once his strength and stamina improve.

His kicking is his problem...thats why he didnt get drafted...I like him as well and reckon with some maturing his kicking and decision making will improve
and he can make it as a  senior player. Takes a good mark and has some agility for a bigger player....
I thought SOS did well picking him first up in the rookie draft and he is a player to watch and get enthused about...
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: flyboy77 on March 10, 2016, 09:50:37 am
His kicking is his problem...thats why he didnt get drafted...I like him as well and reckon with some maturing his kicking and decision making will improve
and he can make it as a  senior player. Takes a good mark and has some agility for a bigger player....
I thought SOS did well picking him first up in the rookie draft and he is a player to watch and get enthused about...

Agree with all that. Looks like a player....not sure that the knock on his kicking is justified - not when compared to the CFC list anyways!  :o ;)

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45. Hawthorn - Jesse Glass-McCasker (198cm, 95kg defender from Swan Districts)

One of the more promising tall defenders, outside of the first round obviously. Glass-McCasker was arguably Western Australia's best player at the Championships, and was unlucky to not be in the All Australian squad. He had a good battle with Schache in one of the matches. Not a big factor in terms of rebounding and intercept marks yet, but he's a big kid and has also been swung forward in the WAFL Colts.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/47-jesse-glass-mccasker-r.1118379/ (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/47-jesse-glass-mccasker-r.1118379/)
Title: Re: Bolton's Bolter?
Post by: flyboy77 on March 10, 2016, 09:57:11 am
From the same link above, from Quigley:

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Quigley said: ↑
38. Jesse Glass-McCasker

Ht – 196 Wt – 92


There is going to be a lot of KP talent around in the latter part of this draft who have shown glimpses of some serious talent. Picking which ones who are going to succeed and which ones are going to flop is to largely be a function of luck but get it right and the recruiters are going to look like geniuses. Glass-McCasker is right in that basket. He has the potential to be a top tier defender but the risk is high and he could just as easily bust altogether.


Glass-McCasker can play at both ends and has done this year. Personally I think this has not helped him. He is still a very raw prospect and it would have been better to settle him into one position and let him learn the nuances of that position rather than throwing him from one end to the other. I see him as a defender. He has good size already and when his frame fills out he is going to be a beast. He does not get into too many body on body contests at the moment but when he does he shows good ability to hold his position. He has pretty good hands and a nice vertical leap. He will punch but he does need to refine his decision making about when to mark and when to punch. Like many junior KPDs he does tend to go for the mark a bit more often than he should.


As mentioned above he is still a very raw player and his positioning at the back leaves a fair bit to be desired. Smart forwards would eat him up at AFL level early in his career and I see him playing a couple of years in a State league side before he develops the game sense to make use of his physical talent to the full extent. People should remember how lost Rance looked for his first 2 or 3 years before he finally got things together. Expect similar from Glass-McCasker.


Athletically there is a lot to like with Glass-McCasker. He was in the top 25% of the jumps at the Combine and was 6th overall in the agility test which is great for a big bodied defender. Being able to change direction quickly when a forward makes a move is an underrated physical trait for a defender. His 20m testing was not as good as I was expecting at the Combine but it was still pretty good. From watching him he just looked a bit quicker than he tested. His endurance is the big hole in his athletic profile and I doubt he is ever going to make a wide ranging CHB. More likely he will be a FB type. Like Rance though I think he could contribute nicely in the offensive side of the game.


Glass-McCasker runs off nicely when he gets the chance. He is nicely balanced and has a good burst of pace that surprises for defending forwards. He has a really nice long handball and is a decent kick of the ball. His kicking technique is okay and he is a bit of a feel kick. He does need to work on his weighting but he is not far away and with work in an AFL environment I think he could turn out to be a quality kick coming out of defence. He can get excellent penetration and can kick over a zone if they are a bit bunched.


He has been compared to Rance in body size and athleticism and I do think he has that kind of upside. He is well worth a punt in the second or third round.