Just getting this thread ready for Thursday Night. I won't b getting onto the computer until Good Friday, so, if we win, people may have some joy to share. If we lose people usually take their time.
Remember:
[1] At least 3 players need to get a mention.
[2] No more than 10 votes for any one player.
[3] Give a rating of team performance. It can be anywhere from A+ to F.
[4] Votes must add up to 15.
Team B
3. Murphy
3. Docherty
3. Cripps
2. Gibbs
1. Wright
1. Kerridge
1. Phillips
1. Weitering
Team B
5.Murphy
3.Cripps
3.Simpson
2.Gibbs
1.Kerridge
1.Weitering
4 : Murphy
3 : Cripps
2 : Docherty
2 : Graham
2 : Gibbs
1 : Wright
1 : Casboult
Team : A-
Team B
4 - Murphy
3 - Cripps
2 - Docherty
1 - Wright
1 - Kerridge
1 - Gibbs
1 - Weitering
1 - Curnow
1 - Graham
Team : B , (B+ if we played 4 quarters instead of 3)
4 - Murphy
3 - Cripps
3 - Gibbs
2- Simpson
1- Kerridge
1- Weitering
1- Wright
Team A-
8 Bolton
2 Cripps
2 Murphy
1 Weitering
1 Boekhorst
1 Docherty
Team: D+
5 - Murphy
4 - Gibbs
3 - Cripps
2 - Wright
1 - Graham
Everyone is rating Gibb's game, but I didn't see it that way.
He was still tooooo cruzey and didn't put his body on the line and seemed like he was just after the easy balls.
He needs to play with a harder more aggressive edge for my liking.
For a player of his ilk, he floats in and out of games too often and doesn't demand the footy.
Need better from him and I think we always will want better. Will never achieve the highs we expect of him for a no.1 pick. For a pick 55 he played well.
Team B+
Better team effort & game plan than any other over the last two years by a mile.
3 - Murphy
2 - Cripps
2 - Gibbs
1 - Kerridge
1 - Wright
1 - Graham
1 - Docherty
1 - Simpson
1 - Casboult
1 - Kreuzer
1 - Weitering
Team B
Cripps 4
Murphy 4
Simpson 2
Kerringe 1
Kruezer 1
Gibbs 1
Weitering 1
Docherty 1
Cruzey, didn't put his body on the line.
7 tackles begs to differ.
And he only looked cruzey because he ran his arse off to get time & space.
Team - B-
Murphy - 3
Cripps - 3
Gibbs - 3
Docherty - 2
Simpson - 2
Kreuzer - 1
Weitering - 1
Yes, we played three quarters and didn't win.
Never said he didn't do anything, I said he needed to more and more often. :o
He was extremely soft on numerous occasions. No passengers.
5 - Cripps
5 - Murphy
3 - Weitering
2 - Graham
Team D
6: Murphy
4: Cripps
2: Simpson
1: Weitering
1: Wright
1: Docherty
People rating the performance with a 'D'.......FMD, are you serious? Based on that, I'm guessing a win would only rate maybe a 'B' at best?
Staggering appraisal and more than a tad absurd to be honest.
I am serious and I dont see its as absurd..I usually rate a loss as a E.......I understand most would see last night as a honorable loss but I was disappointed as I see the Tigers as crap
and thought we should have won the game.
I am not about to give bouquet's to a team that misses easy goals that had the same players making the same mistakes when it counted......the difference from E to D was based around the excellent game from the likes of Weitering etc , continued great form of Cripps and handy contrubutions from newbies like Kerrdge, Wright, Philips...plenty to like but at the end we got knocked over by the likes of Lambert, Lloyd etc...you happy with that and want to give A+ for losing to the Tigers 3rd string players?
Sorry, but I can't accept the coach, no matter how good a job he did.
Team B-
3 - Cripps
3 - Kreuzer
3 - Murphy
2 - Gibbs
2 - Wright
1 - Phillips
1 - Weitering
Honourable mentions: Graham, Simpson, Docherty and Kerridge (would have been in the better players had it not been for his lack of 'clean hands').
Team C
Cripps 3
Murphy 3
Docherty 2
Gibbs 2
Kruezer 2
Wright 1
Phillips 1
Boekhorst 1
Team: C+
Yes, we lost, but we probably deserved to win. We played 3 distinctly better quarters than Richmond and had the better players on the night.
I liked our new game plan.
Votes:
[3] Gibbs
[2.5] Murphy
[2.5] Cripps
[2] Docherty
[1.5] Simpson
[1] Weitering
[0.5] Kerridge
[0.5] Rowe
[0.5] Graham
[0.5] Tuohy
[0.5] Phillips
Explanations:
[3] Gibbs: Just got the 3 votes. His ability to kick to a man surrounded by players and hit the target was probably the difference. He had 7 tackles and ran hard.
[2.5] Murphy: Good effort from the Captain, with lots of ball and very few turnovers.
[2.5] Cripps: His ability to make the play was excellent.
[2] Docherty: Lots of hard running: he played in a way that suited our game plan perfectly.
[1.5] Simpson: Strong and steady across half back.
[1] Weitering: 1st game? No worries! Just take a few fine marks and get 17 possessions.
[0.5] Kerridge: Not as good as he has been, but a useful contributor. He mucked up several kicks that were costly in the end.
[0.5] Rowe: Played pretty well in defence and can be happy with his effort, in all except that his man kicked goals with his few touches.
[0.5] Graham: Not quite as good as he was last year, but solid and dangerous.
[0.5] Tuohy: A solid and hard running game.
[0.5] Phillips: Showed something in the ruck and managed a goal. His ability to beat Hampson in the middle was crucial. He really showed a bit.
Honourable Mentions:
Wright: His goals were excellent, but he didn’t a lot otherwise. Still, a start he can work on.
Casboult: Had he been able to convert, he would have been the difference between victory and defeat. He was the only forward on the ground who marked consistently, but he couldn’t hit the side of a barn.
Boekhorst: Almost vote – worthy. Not quite as good as last time (against Sydney), but so much better than anything he did last year.
Curnow: Worked hard and did a fine job.
5 Murphy
4 Gibbs
3 Wright
2 Cripps
1 Docherty
If we are grading based on our current list and where our club is, then a D is harsh. However if we are grading them on where we want them to be, that's different. If the hawks were playing last night and came away with the same result a D or E would be a correct mark.
I grade them on where our club is at the moment otherwise it has little meaning IMO and you might as well pencil in D and E every week this season.
Well, at least you didn't over-exaggerate in justifying your still absurd 'D' ::) , as I don't see any A+'s in this thread and just because you think the Tigers are crap doesn't mean they are does it? They may well be, but way too early to make that call.
I based the D on what I saw and what I saw was slightly better than last season only and that was from several of our new players who gave me some hope but if you watched the game you would see.......same players still cant kick, same disposal errors, same tackles missed, same mistakes being made by kicking across the ground and having the ball picked off, same players still not contesting in the proper manner, if you are satisfied by being done over by Lambert, Lloyd, Townsend...watching Boekhorst and Everitt pull the handbrake on when they thought they would get hit then you are in for a very enjoyable season and you will be able to pull that B+ out each week...
As and Bs for a loss to an undermanned opposition? Folk must really be starved of success!
Anyway, I was under the impression that there wasn't to be any discussion of votes or team ratings. If people want to be overly generous and dish out extravagant ratings for losing a game we should have won, then go right ahead. I won't lose sleep over it.
Team B
3 - Murphy
2 - Cripps
2 - Gibbs
1 - Kerridge
1 - Wright
1 - Graham
1 - Docherty
1 - Simpson
1 - Curnow
1 - Weitering
1 - Phillips
C+
5: Murphy
4: Gibbs
3: Cripps
2: Docherty
1: Simpson
HM: Weitering,Curnow,Wright,Kerridge, Graham
Sheesh Brettie.....grumpelstiltskin bro lol.
B-
5: Murphy
4: Cripps
2 Weitering
1: Docherty
1: Wright
1 Gibbs
1 Curnow
Team - C+
5 - Murphy
4 - Gibbs
3 - Cripps
2 - Docherty
1 - Wright
Team. C
5. Murphy
3. Cripps
3. Gibbs
2. Docherty
1. Simpson
1. Wright
Good thing Craig Bradley is not still playing ;)
Undermanned? They were only without Deliedo, Maric and Grigg. They would've only have triuly missed Deliedio of that lot.
Everything has to be taken in context. We were expected to be no good and pumped with our list and very nearly won. If we were a gun side and lost then a D or E, as a cellar dweller nearly beating a top 5 side, worth a B-. That's my best possible score for a loss.
I really don't care what rating you give the team. I happen to believe that losing is unacceptable and, while I may go to a C for a hard fought loss, that's my limit.
What's a 10 goal win worth, A++++++? How about about a 20 goal win in a grand final?
We could debate this ad nauseum, not to mention folk who refuse to give Gibbs votes, but that's not the purpose of this thread. We all have our own way of voting and rating teams, it's subjective, and there's no right or wrong way and nothing to gain by arguing about it.
5 Murph
4 Gibbs
3 Cripps
2 Simpson
1 Doc
Team B
Not far below my B- maximum. When you're a poor team though playing a finals team some losses are "more acceptable" than others, without at all being accepted as that will turn you into a $hit team quick smart. If we lost to Hawthorn by a point I could push to a B. If we lost to Essendon by a point we'd get a Z. Hence I use the word "context" before as not one size fits all. A 20 goal grand final win? Think I would just lose the whole load...lol.
x2...I thought this thread was for votes only ...not to critique and ridicule others because they saw the game different...
I suppose if we are ridiculing then our club isn't travelling too badly.
I'm only an observer of this thread so pardon my comment but if you disagree on the criteria what's the point of arguing about the ratings? ???
3 - Gibbs
3 - Murphy
3 - Cripps
2 - Simpson
2 - Graham
2 - Docherty
Team B-
Gibbs was sensational on Friday night as was the soft poor leader in Murphy.
It's easiest just to shake your head at these Muppets that will always find something to criticize a player like Gibbs. Yeah he is never going to play like Mark Ricciuto but neither did/or do a lot of great players
Team C
Murphy 4
Cripps 3
Gibbs 3
Kruez 2
Phillips 1
Walker 1
Weitering 1
HM Doc, Simpson, 2E, Rowe
Team - C
5 - Murphy
4 - Gibbs
3 - Cripps
2 - Simpson
1 - Doherty
Well said. Likewise, B- is my maximum losing grading.
But maybe, like others have suggested, this particular topic should be for ratings etc only and not questioning the validity of another's rationale. Just thoughts...
Team C
5 Murphy
4 Gibbs
3 Cripps
2 Simpson
1 Wright
Team, C+
5 - Murphy
4 - Cripps
3 - Gibbs
2 - Simpson
1 - Wright
Team c+
Murphy 5
Cripps 3
Gibbs 3
Wright 2
Docherty 1
Phillips 1
No wonder Graham struggles to get a game, if this threads votes are anything to go by he must be almost invisible! :o
C
5 Murphy
4 Cripps
3 Gibbs
2 Weitering
1 Wright
It's because I rate him so highly, that's an instant turn off for a few posters who would rather bend over in the Blue Oyster Bar rather than agree with me. ;D
FWIW I rate him, didn't have him in my top 5 though.
Same here, just outside my top 5.
+1 only hurt by a rather quiet first half.
Graham is a fairly Vanilla player that we have a short supply of. Competant footballer at AFL standard who has no major tricks but will always be a valuable contributer.
If we had 3 or 4 more of him, we would be a much better outfit.
In a nutshell. Will never be a superstar but can certainly play 150-200 games for us.
Gibbs 5
Murphy 4
Cripps 4
Docherty 1
Wright 1
Team C+