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Title: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: crashlander on July 09, 2016, 10:03:41 pm
Well after 2 shocking weeks, the NBs have to show something. The relative lack of spirit, skill and 4 quarter effort has a chance to be reversed, even though the game will be in the mud heap at Eureka Oval. With the works going on there I expect some really ordinary conditions. Hopefully we can show what we want to see.

Game at 1300 at Eureka Oval on Saturday.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: crashlander on July 13, 2016, 10:54:49 am
I know there has been snow and sleet and hail up Ballarat way, but with better weather forecast for the next few days, the ground surface might not be too bad.
I do know that North Ballarat have spent a LOT of money upgrading the ground and they did start with the surface. How it is going is another matter, but with the money gone into it, Eureka Oval should not be the pile of mud it has been.
Then again, I also know that the area for the spectators was not the primary focus: the surface has been until now. The 'outer' may not be fit for humans yet.

As for our on field options, Charlie Curnow may play most of a game. He played a very managed time session last week. He will be better for the run.
Similarly, Harry McKay will probably be over his virus.
Cuningham played half a game in the Development team last week and probably will play a full one this week.
Gorringe is a good chance to play.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: crashlander on July 14, 2016, 07:21:22 pm
North Ballarat vs Northern Blues
Saturday 16th July, 2016
Eureka Stadium at 1.00pm          

North Ballarat

B: 2. T Lockyer 26. A Boseley 25. M Rodd
HB: 34. O Tate 20. R Marshall 11. M Austin
C: 41. N Weightman 9. L George 36. C Perry
HF: 22. T Templeton 10. S Hooper 21. T Schnerring
F: 7. L Kiel 31. M Eagles 19. D Cox
R: 18. O Stephenson 3. N Rippon 4. C Schache
Int: 30. B Edwards 33. M Johnston 24. B Simpson 13. T Taurau 16. L Cassidy 5. J Keeble 43. J Werts 17. J Webster
  
23P: 44. C Lee
    

Northern Blues

B: 26. M Dick 31. J Foster 34. J Glass-McCasker
HB: 38. B Gowers 27. M Jamison 7. D Buckley
C: 67. C Smith 32. N Graham 76. J Tutt
HF: 58. C Curnow 48. K Jaksch 23. H Kerbatieh
F: 18. D Gorringe 14. L Jones 20. A Everitt
R: 36. C Wood 42. M Whiley 1. T Wilson
Int: 50. B Jordan 25. A Brown 12. Z Ballard 4. S Russell 65. D Viojo 60. D Cuningham 45. D Stevens 19. H McKay 6. G Strachan 37. T Jones 80. M Korcheck 21. C Barrett
 
23P 35. K Declase
 
In the past Orren Stephenson has killed us. It will be up to Wood and Korchek to stop that happening for a change. Gorringe and Everitt will probably be our key forwards. Something very strange in that sentence.
Sounds like the powers that be are not that happy with Skittles at the moment: banished to the bench. he does need to step up ad this is a good opportunity for him. For Cuningham as well, assuming either actually plays.
Good to see Smith away from the small forward role. he just doesn't get enough ball or kick enough goals to make that role work. We missed Gallucci in that regard. Kerbatieh is probably the best option there, but he is trying to impress in the midfield to show he can develop the tank to become a senior player.
Good to see Glass-McCasker back.
I would love to see this game, but the probability of that is very low.

The Development Team is having a week off: a bye.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: sandsmere on July 14, 2016, 08:36:41 pm
Looks like DVR might b gone.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: townsendcalling on July 16, 2016, 02:47:02 pm
Looks like Boekhorst is making a statement.  Plenty of possessions and hitting the scoreboard too. 
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: crashlander on July 16, 2016, 03:27:16 pm
I've been out. The Blues made a statement, so far. Not much odea as to what has happened, but the scores at 3/4 time are:
Northern Blues 15 - 6 - 96
North Ballarat 9 - 11 - 65

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cnc5rglVYAAIP_j.png:large)
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: crashlander on July 16, 2016, 03:33:22 pm
Sure enough, I come home and so do North Ballarat: 17 points the difference, 18 minutes into the last quarter. :(

Northern Blues 15 - 8 - 98
North Ballarat 11 - 15 - 81

Goal to the Blues - the go ahead again.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: DJC on July 16, 2016, 03:41:12 pm
It seems that Harry has just kicked the sealer and his second for the game  :)
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: crashlander on July 16, 2016, 03:47:38 pm
Indeed. A 31 point victory at a play where we have struggled in recent times. Considering some of our more pathetic efforts of late, this must be a considerable improvement.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: crashlander on July 16, 2016, 03:53:56 pm
Northern Blues 17 - 10 - 112
North Ballarat 11 - 15 - 81

DISPOSALS: Whiley 38, Wilson 35, Boekhorst 30, Dick 25, T. Jones 23, Kerbatieh 19

In many ways this is worrying: a couple of outstanding performances quickly falls away.

GOALS: Boekhorst 3, Wilson 3, Whiley 2, Kerbatieh 2, McKay 2, Barrett, Gorringe, Gowers, T. Jones, Viojo-Rainbow

No goals to Liam Jones or Everitt: did they actually play? They were named.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: crashlander on July 16, 2016, 04:03:22 pm
Looks like Cuningham had a bit of it early. He must have drifted out of the game.

Peter Jackson VFL 2016
North Ballarat   1.4  3.7  9.11  11.15 (81)
Northern Blues   4.4  8.5  15.6  17.10 (112)
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: DJC on July 16, 2016, 04:08:46 pm
No goals to Liam Jones or Everitt: did they actually play? They were named.

Liam Jones was mentioned once in the Twitter feed.  He marked a kick from Korcheck but missed the shot at goal.

Everitt wasn't mentioned - but that doesn't mean much.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: crashlander on July 16, 2016, 04:09:44 pm
Hopefully some good soul was at the game today and can fill us in with a strong report.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: Baggers on July 16, 2016, 04:31:58 pm
Damn, almost went but the 2 hour drive put me off!

Glad that Boekhorst stepped up.

Can't wait to find out more.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: crashlander on July 16, 2016, 06:21:12 pm
Peter Jackson VFL 2016
North Ballarat   1.4  3.7  9.11  11.15 (81)
Northern Blues   4.4  8.5  15.6  17.10 (112)

GOALS:
North Ballarat: Hooper 2 Cox 2 Edwards  Stephenson  George  Kiel  Templeton  Keeble  Rippon
Northern Blues: Boekhorst 3 Wilson 3 McKay 2 Kerbatieh 2 Whiley 2 Gowers  Gorringe  Viojo  Jones  Barrett

BEST:
North Ballarat: Tate Kiel Keeble Austin Lockyer Rippon
Northern Blues: Wilson Whiley Boekhorst Jones Korcheck Jones

Very interesting that Liam Jones was put in the best players when he didn't kick a goal. Very nice to see Korchek mentioned for the 2nd week in a row!
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: MilkIt on July 16, 2016, 07:41:43 pm
Peter Jackson VFL 2016
North Ballarat   1.4  3.7  9.11  11.15 (81)
Northern Blues   4.4  8.5  15.6  17.10 (112)

GOALS:
North Ballarat: Hooper 2 Cox 2 Edwards  Stephenson  George  Kiel  Templeton  Keeble  Rippon
Northern Blues: Boekhorst 3 Wilson 3 McKay 2 Kerbatieh 2 Whiley 2 Gowers  Gorringe  Viojo  Jones  Barrett

BEST:
North Ballarat: Tate Kiel Keeble Austin Lockyer Rippon
Northern Blues: Wilson Whiley Boekhorst Jones Korcheck Jones

Very interesting that Liam Jones was put in the best players when he didn't kick a goal. Very nice to see Korchek mentioned for the 2nd week in a row!

Different "Jones" I think.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: DJC on July 16, 2016, 08:27:03 pm

Do we have three in the team  ;)
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: MilkIt on July 16, 2016, 10:30:15 pm
Do we have three in the team  ;)

Was T. Jones no good either?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: DJC on July 16, 2016, 11:24:49 pm

There are two Jones in the best players  :)
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: MilkIt on July 17, 2016, 09:50:05 am
There are two Jones in the best players  :)

So there is! Carry on.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: blue4life on July 17, 2016, 10:10:02 am
Very nice to see Korchek mentioned for the 2nd week in a row!

It wouldn't surprise if he was playing VFL reserves given his experience of the game, being mentioned in the best players in the seniors is very encouraging.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: bratblue on July 17, 2016, 10:10:17 am

Gotta keep up with the Jones
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: RiverRat on July 17, 2016, 10:34:43 am

Very interesting that Liam Jones was put in the best players when he didn't kick a goal.

Perhaps he didn't play as a forward.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: DJC on July 17, 2016, 10:51:30 am
From the game report on the NBs website:

Quote
NORTH BALLARAT 1.4       3.7       9.11     11. 15. (81)
NORTHERN BLUES  4.4       8.5       15.6     17. 10. (112)

GOALS
Northern Blues: Boekhorst 3, Wilson 3, Kerbatieh 2, McKay 2, Whiley 2, Barrett, Gorringe, Gowers, T. Jones, Viojo-Rainbow

BESTS
Northern Blues: Wilson, Whiley, Boekhorst, T. Jones, Korcheck, L. Jones

It's not a typo  :)
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: DJC on July 17, 2016, 12:07:10 pm
Jamison isn't mentioned in the final lineup and presumably didn't play  ???
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: MilkIt on July 17, 2016, 12:34:10 pm
Jamison isn't mentioned in the final lineup and presumably didn't play  ???

He was withdrawn with "illness" again.  :-\
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: crashlander on July 17, 2016, 07:49:20 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/a2bzNRH.png)
Some interesting numbers. A few points of interest:
[1] Whiley and Boekhorst both had BIG days with goals and 30+ possessions. But they had 2 tackles between them: one each. Tom Wilson had 7. Therein lies the difference between BOG and just playing well.
[2] Korchek had 26 taps out - more than Stephenson even though he had little more than half the ruck time. That bodes well.
[3] Cuningham had 17 possessions - on the way back.
[4] Gowers had 18 possessions - not as good as he has been, but he might still be in the picture for a senior game. Skittle, on the other hand does not. Smith had 8 possessions and was ineffective.
[5] Not enough of our players do enough at VFL level. That bodes poorly for their futures.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: crashlander on July 17, 2016, 07:57:01 pm
https://youtu.be/HM1BUJtcJ00 (https://youtu.be/HM1BUJtcJ00)
Some nice highlight.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: Gointocarlton on July 17, 2016, 08:13:35 pm
From what we have seen this year, surely Kerbatieh will get rookie listed.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: DJC on July 17, 2016, 09:03:48 pm
https://youtu.be/HM1BUJtcJ00 (https://youtu.be/HM1BUJtcJ00)
Some nice highlight.

Some very good efforts there!  Boekhorst will have to get a spot in the 22 next week.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: LoveNavy on July 17, 2016, 10:17:27 pm
https://youtu.be/HM1BUJtcJ00 (https://youtu.be/HM1BUJtcJ00)
Some nice highlight.

Thank you.
Gee the big MK is taking to this gig like a duck to the proverbial ^-^
Whiley and Boekhorst look focused and poised
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: MilkIt on July 17, 2016, 11:46:58 pm
3 rebound 50s for Gorringe? Did he spend time in defence?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: townsendcalling on July 18, 2016, 06:48:53 am
Some nice involvement from Liam Jones as well.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: Jeffy38 on July 18, 2016, 12:42:21 pm
Thanks for posting. That 2ng goal from big Harry is encouraging, burned off his defender. Surprisingly quick and agile
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: cookie2 on July 18, 2016, 12:51:39 pm
Thanks for posting. That 2ng goal from big Harry is encouraging, burned off his defender. Surprisingly quick and agile

Agree, Young Harry Mk 2 looks like he could be a very handy addition. Thanks for the link Crash.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: Amers on July 18, 2016, 01:41:29 pm
From what we have seen this year, surely Kerbatieh will get rookie listed.

I've been thinking the same but shhh, let's keep him quiet, til he is actually on our list! ;)
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: Jeffy38 on July 18, 2016, 03:28:54 pm
Agree, Young Harry Mk 2 looks like he could be a very handy addition. Thanks for the link Crash.
I wonder how his brother is doing
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: townsendcalling on July 18, 2016, 03:49:48 pm

From the Nth website's half season review:

Ben McKay

"He's been fantastic. (It's been a) steep learning curve for Ben, who came in off a very short talent pathway because he only played 10 games of TAC Cup footy until he got drafted.

"There was so much to like about Ben when he came in but every area had the possibility to be developed – his strength, his kicking, his marking.

"His learning curve was steeper than everyone's for the first six weeks. He went back to the development (league) and played a couple of weeks in development, he's come back (to the VFL) and his last two games have been quite impressive as a key forward."

Last couple of week's stats:
Ben McKay (4 kicks, 3 handballs, 3 marks, 2 tackles)
Ben McKay – 9 disposals, three clearances, three inside 50s


He'd have to be a significantly further down the track than Harry, given that I would think that he's been injury free.

Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: Jeffy38 on July 18, 2016, 04:00:45 pm
From the Nth website's half season review:

Ben McKay

"He's been fantastic. (It's been a) steep learning curve for Ben, who came in off a very short talent pathway because he only played 10 games of TAC Cup footy until he got drafted.

"There was so much to like about Ben when he came in but every area had the possibility to be developed – his strength, his kicking, his marking.

"His learning curve was steeper than everyone's for the first six weeks. He went back to the development (league) and played a couple of weeks in development, he's come back (to the VFL) and his last two games have been quite impressive as a key forward."

Last couple of week's stats:
Ben McKay (4 kicks, 3 handballs, 3 marks, 2 tackles)
Ben McKay – 9 disposals, three clearances, three inside 50s


He'd have to be a significantly further down the track than Harry, given that I would think that he's been injury free.

Cheers Townsend but our Harry has been playing for a lot longer so is more of a natural (hopefully)
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: townsendcalling on July 21, 2016, 06:49:15 am
Coaches notes are interesting!

http://cfcblu.es/VFLReviewRd15

Jones and Everitt both pumped up!
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: DJC on July 21, 2016, 09:37:33 am
Coaches notes are interesting!

http://cfcblu.es/VFLReviewRd15

Jones and Everitt both pumped up!

Very positive for Jones!

It was interesting to read that Skittles was off the ground after a heavy knock and Harry didn't play in the first quarter.  It gives some context to the stats and highlights.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 15: Northern Blues vs North Ballarat in Ballarat
Post by: Baggers on July 22, 2016, 12:34:19 pm
Coaches notes are interesting!

http://cfcblu.es/VFLReviewRd15

Jones and Everitt both pumped up!

Thought the pumping up of Everitt was over the top... Jones deserved it.