Not looking forward to this. I don't think I'll be able to see any of the game. The 2nd just got done by North Ballarat, who had been winless on the bottom. Brisbane beat us last year, even though they were lower on the ladder.
This bodes poorly.
However, I try to look on the bright side - pick #2 anyone?
Well first surprise SOJ in the back line?
Sides have been close, but we are 3 goals down.
Need to be better defensively.
Not a good start. I think MBB was right with his prediction.
We are in holiday mode.
Officially not switched on.
I missed that prediction, but Brisbane are now out to 4 goals. We must get a couple on the board
We're getting absolutely smashed in the midfield.
2018 Planning underway, should have started tanking weeks ago when Norp got things on a roll!
Plowman tagging Zorko, really!!!
The problem is that they look like scoring every time they go forward at the moment
Zorko as he seems to every time have a holiday against us. We are struggling to get hold of the ball. Lions delivery into the forward line just killing us.
Any club struggling for form must beg the AFL to play us, because we reinstate their mojo every single time!
Even at VFL level!
6 goals to 0... we are lucky to kick 8 on a good day.... game over
Our blokes have no interest in winning this. Getting smashed everywhere.
I think when you take into account who we are playing.
This is our worst quarter of football of the year.
Did Gibbs run out?
Most disinterested looking players I have seen run out this year
I was just about to post the same thing, we are a rabble.
Footy trip planning weekend session
Bolton being outcoached....Zorko without a man just running wild like he always does when we play Brisbane.
Gibbs being well held by Rockliff...our mids dont man up and Bolton needs to get some mids who will be accountable.
Graham has no left foot and isnt good enough...
What a joke
Gibbs deal must be done the way he is (not) playing.
We stink. Its fine to not score if you can defend well. Hard when 6 goals go sailing through.
Blow the siren, end this now
Spot on.
We look awful everywhere. Zero run, zero effort and zero goals to show for it.
Whole team just plodding around while the lions bust the lines and run forward hard.
Plowman running with him but cant keep up
Yep, had his hat and coat handed to him, shows who the man really was at the Dawks!
Déjà vu. So like this game last year. We let them run amuck, then despite a big turn around, lost.
On track for a repeat at best, hiding from bottom placed ream at worst. Can anyone on the field see Zorko???
Cmon blues. Pitch in.
Well on the board SPF
This is called tanking
I have been behind the club all season, because I have seen a level of intensity I have been happy with, despite results.
A few weeks ago it drifted off against the Tigers, last week against the Bulldogs they we consistently harder at the ball and our tackling was abysmal.
Today they look completely uninterested and I am not sure why supporters should be interested when the club obviously is not.
Bolton has told us we will be judged on our intensity, they is great that is what the Hawks used to do before they started winning.
Well on intensity they are absolutely awful.
Harden the hell up.
10-15 more minutes like this and I am going to find something else to do
If we are tanking, then Norp have tanked!
Nobody is watching MIO, only the tragic fans who sign up regardless!
Lions could get us by 20 goals today, they score every second entry!
AFL team vs VFL team. Worst game if the year.
Feel sorry for young Harry trying to play key forward. First game and side basically doesn't try.
Nice to see Harry getting involved in general play. Casboult drills one. Maybe will give them some heart in a feeble first half
Well, not sure what to say, we picked him as a morale booster not on form. Morale Booster!
Thats enough for me, nighty night kiddies.
U12 stuff, hacking it out of the back-line to 5 unattended opponents!
harry showing some of the green shoots here in a very dead patch
If we have the ball we stand still and wait
If they have it, we stand still in our zone and watch them run away
Ps well done harry
Green shoot.... Harry Mckay
The dismal leadership from senior players is the worst thing about tonight. Murphy and Gibbs should be trade bait to get us into the draft.
McKay lookin good! Nice marks and now a goal
As I've argued before, they won't get us the picks we need, they are valuable to us not to others.
You cannot post about how dismal they are, then claim they are worth low draft picks!
real lack of leadership showing here, no one showing a lot of fight.
There it is, why Graham is NBG!
McKay is looking ok at times when we have the ball.
When they have the ball he is clueless on where to run, who to guard. Showing his obvious inexperience. He needs to do a lot of work in the video room and we should be putting a lot of extra time into him.
He's too good for this level of football though :(
When you think there are players playing for there careers ATM you expect a lot more intensity . This will make it easy to mark a few cards
Wow this is really poor. Looks like the boys have escaped the cold weather to go to Brisbane for a holiday.
Shades of Josh Bootsma skipping the game to go to the beach.
McKay is our highest ranking player after the first half. haha
He is probably close to our best on ground right now. Which is tragic.
BB made the comment that BrisVegas is half a year into a reset and we're 1 1/2 half years into a reset... seems the mentor is giving the rookie coach a lesson.
Their side is younger than ours and their leaders younger than ours... Oh dear. At half time our highest ranked player is H... who's played 2 quarters of senior footy... WTF is going on?
When you have 12 players that have 6 touches or less , and 4 are from our mid field group, you have to question the desire .
Our mids are rubbish, they refuse to man up and its the same every week........only Harry has saved this game from being a total farce....
Must have gone to Robbo's for dinner last night! ;)
Our defensive setup has been dismantled by Brisbane kicking goals from 50+, our game plan dead and it's a big lesson learned! We don't have players fast enough to keep up or setup anyway!
Unfortunately for us, we don't have players who are capable or willing to kick from 50+!
Could someone just tackle Mathieson's head as hard as possible and knock him out.
If he's going to milk frees anyway at least make him earn it.
Bolton needs to show leadership and not catch phrases.
Sigh..... ???
Well done big H. Some nice marks and after a couple of practice shots, your first goal in AFL.
The end, and I hate sad endings :'(
This is what you get taking a bus full of piss to Brisbane!
He's a Geelong Falcons player - as one of the commentators called it, the Geelong genuflection.
Our setup is failing because we have too many inexperienced kids playing.
They are still learning the setups and where to go....and when.
Already pointed out Harry looks lost on defensive structures and setups, he's not alone (but being 2m+ tall he does stand out).
Not sure what difference it would make (some I'm sure) but....
Gee we miss Cripps :(
We miss Ed Currnow as well,
So lods...am i still a pessimist?
While watching a game on a phone is hard going, the defensive style we play is showing its limitations. The last few weeks have shown we can organise when we don't have the ball. But when we gain possession we struggle other than switching. Players seem to look frozen.
Imagine this will change into 2018, but its tough to watch. Collectively we are clueless.
Might be close to the end for Simpson. His pace has dropped the past month. Hope not. Desperate for more run off half back
Is Gibbs hurt or just having another of his CBF days?
No Cripps, no Carlton. We all know who the real captain is.
So maybe we're building our case for a compo pick. The bottom side thrashes us year after year, and gets themselves a compo pick :o go figure.
Cmon Blues.
Captains who dont get stuck in throw an elbow and hurt the opposition in situations like this and show grunt is not a captain. You need to show this is not acceptable and we dont have anyone capable of doing that. Maybe Kreuzer is close.
Will be a real rest of character for some of our leaders
Gibbs. 1 handball in a half of football. (no kicks)
While watching a game on a phone is hard going, @ vivien.
I think its fair to say it's hard going period......
Can't believe we were that bad in the first half, call me over hopefull, but we can earn a little respect back. Murphy on the bench injury?
Late to come out from half time.
Given his game so far, i suspect he's definitely carrying something.
Thanks guys re Murphy
Fair point. At least I can get a beer at anytime
Some are reporting hip injury.
Gibbs 1st kick half way point of q3......
Now that is TRAGICOMEDY
The boundary rider on the radio reckons he had Murphy right in front of him. Who knows.
Lions find so much space so easy we couldnt find a free man with a map
For once commentary is spot on.... Carlton are dishevelled behind the ball. I'd add to that. Carlton are dishevelled with the ball and in front of the ball. :'(
Something positive. Lambs tackle..
Nice snap from Wright
Nope you predicted it accurately....but my argument and line of thinking was that we couldn't afford this ladder position and we couldn't afford big losses
Support would evaporate very quickly.
Supporters will start to wonder whether they've been "snowed" again.
Anyway...game still has a bit to go and being an optimist we'll finish strongly ;)
Show a little better, holding the Lions at least and adding a little on the scoreboard
Nice bullet i50 Williamson and goal
At least we know Harry McKay goes ok although he probably feels like he's in the VFL again right now given the NBs recent form.
How dumb is zorko?
Hilarious. Zorko hits Samo and big Zac runs to his rescue
Our ability to react to pressure has been shown up here today. Missing basic shots at goal just highlights this .
Lions have stopped , Bolts finding something in his bag?
Samo... dammmmo
Happy for someone to sacrifice 4 weeks to fix up that d$&khead Mathieson
Strange game , if we had taken some chances we could have been right in this .
There is no question that we have been awful, but the umpiring is just appalling today.
13-7 to 7-13, if we could kick straight we could somehow be in with a chance despite the whole team stinking today
Watch now for the huge finish and fall short by 3 points.
Agreed, they lost control of the game, there should be a couple of them VFL bound.
Too little too late... but at least we didnt completely roll over and die.. back with a sniff if we can kick the 1st two in the last.... but it will be highway robbery if we pinch this
Like this game last year, we finally come to play after it's been won.
Cmon boys. Let's rewrite history and put this mob on their art...
Williamson great return from injury. There lies our future. He can preserve against the odds and hit a target - tick ^-^
Just couldn't find a goal in that last 5 mins despite 3 or 4 entries. Those two 50m penalties were rubbish!
24 pts down now it is possible?
Correction 18 pts down
Ladies and Gents... we have a sniff
Make that 12 pts
Charlie....take a bow
At this rate we'll have another honourable loss!
Door closed unfortunately
Just a tease, maybe a peep hole, never really an open door!
When it's against Brisbane it's as dishonourable as it gets. First time i've been disappointed in them all season
Zorko over mark twice, once slapped out of Plows hands. Not 50... Why
Some very strange umpiring today , odd decisions
Seeing the effect of too many umpires and rule changes. Mistakes, indecision and confusion.
Oh well... got to within 11 pts and gave them a scare.
Different team after half time.... That 1st half was pathetic.
Charlie and not gibbs, having a blinder.
Dear AFL.
Please give Carlton a priority pick. They can't beat the bottom side.
We were bad in the first half and deserved what we got. Umpires were even worse in the second half. Snuffed out our comeback with bs decisions.
Post match thread is open
http://www.carltonsc.com/index.php?topic=3568.0
Move the discussion there and we'll lock this one up.
How does Zorko get away with hitting Samo and Plowman???
Plowman could hardly breathe and had tears in his eyes... And Casboult gives out 1/4 of that impact and gets 50 + mrp.
They were the better side - no doubt. But fair dinkum, he came over the mark twice in second half, slapped ball out, and no penalty. Is he playing to a different rule book? Unfathomable.