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Title: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: PaulP on August 20, 2017, 06:01:11 pm
Saturday Aug 26, 2017
16:35 AEST
SCG


This is it folks - last game for the year.

Clearly flag favorites along with the Crows, they will take some beating on their own ground.

On the one hand, the smaller dimensions of the SCG should suit our negating game style, but more bodies closer together will definitely help the Swans. Bigger, stronger, more experienced all over the park.

Then there's the Mills revenge factor.

Swans by six goals.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 20, 2017, 08:05:35 pm
Not without a chance despite the opposition being the red hot flag favourites. Was it late last year that we got within a goal at the SCG? Never know your luck in the big smoke.
Blues by 3pts.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: PaulP on August 20, 2017, 08:18:29 pm
Not without a chance despite the opposition being the red hot flag favourites. Was it late last year that we got within a goal at the SCG? Never know your luck in the big smoke.
Blues by 3pts.

That would be a huge way to finish the year, and would provide enough "emotional nourishment" to last the whole off season.

Can't see it happening myself. But then, I couldn't see the Hawks victory either.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: cookie2 on August 20, 2017, 09:51:05 pm
I'm actually looking forward to this game now!   :)
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: townsendcalling on August 20, 2017, 10:04:11 pm
Who will the Swans target on our side??  CC?
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on August 20, 2017, 10:08:57 pm
Who will the Swans target on our side??  CC?

Lamb.....reckon they will climb into him at every opportunity and defuse any effect he might have on any player he has targeted...
Ryan Crowley was the master of the heavy tag until the umpires got sick of the sideshow and allowed opposition players to beat up on him...
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: townsendcalling on August 20, 2017, 10:10:02 pm
Zac Jones is one love tap to the guts off suspension (if he doesn't go this week). I'd be niggling the cr@p out of him and reminding him that he can't do anything about it.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: dodge on August 20, 2017, 10:24:14 pm
The round following us beating them was the start of their run.  They will want to demolish us to pay us back for that loss.  Can't see us getting within 5 goals.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: cookie2 on August 21, 2017, 08:15:03 am
The round following us beating them was the start of their run.  They will want to demolish us to pay us back for that loss.  Can't see us getting within 5 goals.

It will be a real test for us without doubt. I can't see us taking a backward step and I'm sure we will see some fireworks.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: blue4life on August 21, 2017, 10:22:31 am
Smedts will probably miss so it most likely comes down to Graham or Cunningham.
Graham kicked a few goals and had 24 touches in the VFL, Cunningham had 20 so it's a toss up.
If Cunningham gets the nod it's not good news for Nick, I'd probably go with Cunningham.
Can't see us winning but confidence is a wonderful thing, I don't think it will be a blow out, looking forward to Liam V Buddy.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: townsendcalling on August 21, 2017, 11:22:04 am
Smedts will probably miss so it most likely comes down to Graham or Cunningham.
Graham kicked a few goals and had 24 touches in the VFL, Cunningham had 20 so it's a toss up.
If Cunningham gets the nod it's not good news for Nick, I'd probably go with Cunningham.
Can't see us winning but confidence is a wonderful thing, I don't think it will be a blow out, looking forward to Liam V Buddy.

Small ground, pace not as big an issue. I'd go with Graham.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: blue4life on August 21, 2017, 11:32:08 am
Small ground, pace not as big an issue. I'd go with Graham.

Cunningham has more upside in my opinion but it's a toss up.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on August 21, 2017, 12:19:43 pm
I'd go with Graham...bit of rumour talk that Cuningham might have got ahead of himself a bit and thought he was an automatic selection each week and the coaches want
to see a bit of improvement in a few areas.
Was a very wild rumour I heard via BigFooty that he might even be up for trade if GWS want something extra for the Kelly/Hopper deal...being Bigfooty I wouldnt put much credence to that rumour and I wouldnt see SOS wanting to trade one of his young picks out...
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: cookie2 on August 21, 2017, 12:46:00 pm
I'd be going with Graham. He is tougher and has far more kent than Cunners IMO. He would relish the prospect of this game and I think we'll need all the kent we can get.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: flyboy77 on August 21, 2017, 01:23:25 pm
It will be a real test for us without doubt. I can't see us taking a backward step and I'm sure we will see some fireworks.

The Hawks were a real test and far more of a bogey side than the Swans.

i think we can match it very well with them.....
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: Baggers on August 21, 2017, 01:32:26 pm
The Hawks were a real test and far more of a bogey side than the Swans.

i think we can match it very well with them.....

In one respect it's a nightmare for the Fluffy Ducks coming up against a side with nothing to lose. Has the makings of a very close, dour encounter. Our BEST matches it with them.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: cookie2 on August 21, 2017, 01:39:53 pm
The Hawks were a real test and far more of a bogey side than the Swans.

i think we can match it very well with them.....

Do it right and we can beat them. I saw the Hawks do it a couple of weeks ago. We need to strangle them out of the stoppages and limit mistakes that they will quickly and ruthlessly capitalise on, as is their style. All out tackling/harassment pressure on them is also key.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: townsendcalling on August 21, 2017, 02:56:56 pm
Does SOJ have a hairline jaw fracture?? Had scans.  If he has, leave him out.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: laj on August 21, 2017, 07:29:12 pm
Does it help that we were the 2nd last side to beat them?..lol.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: madbluboy on August 21, 2017, 07:56:31 pm
Swans don't like our (and the Hawks) keepings off style. Harder to do at the SCG though.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on August 21, 2017, 08:06:27 pm
Does SOJ have a hairline jaw fracture?? Had scans.  If he has, leave him out.

Didnt play that well vs the Hawks and Luke Hodge actually ran away from him so I figured he must have some problem..
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: LoveNavy on August 21, 2017, 10:31:04 pm
Does it help that we were the 2nd last side to beat them?..lol.

No doubt. Hmmm probably gives us a sizeable 0.00008% advantage ;)
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: LoveNavy on August 21, 2017, 10:33:14 pm
Didnt play that well vs the Hawks and Luke Hodge actually ran away from him so I figured he must have some problem..

In sympathy??
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: deags on August 23, 2017, 03:10:01 pm
I'm heading out for the game.
I am worried it could possibly be the first million point defeat in AFL/VFL history.
Every chance it may turn that ugly for us.
However, I literally had a tear in my eye after last Saturday's game, so I couldn't resist the opportunity to be there when I am wrong.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: Thryleon on August 23, 2017, 03:37:07 pm
I heard roos on a press conference.

I am extremely worried that they will touch us up.

Roos was asked if they would see this match as a chance to boost percentage and he responded that they're just focused on winning the game.

Sounded like he was very aware of what they are up against and what needs to be done to win.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: sydneybluesfan on August 23, 2017, 03:56:06 pm
The last 7 times we have played in Sydney [Swans & GWS] we have been beaten - have to go back 6 years ago in the wet on a Friday night when Judd starred for me to sing the song. I've sat through all of them.

This should be a good game as we have played pretty well the last 2 times we played them, and hopefully the boys are confident after last week. Reckon there will be 40k in attendance.

I am taking my 7 yo son [who is still to see them win live] and we have managed to score tickets into the rooms from a family friend who is a dual Blues premiership player who we will be attending with. Can't wait for Saturday and posting about the experience.

Buddy on Jones will be intriguing. The Reid and Rohan match ups for us are the worry, as is our depth in the midfield. Going to need huge games from Gibbs, Murphy and Kerridge to be any chance. Reckon Cunningham may get a run for Smedts or SOJ to add some more midfield run.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: deags on August 23, 2017, 04:11:03 pm
I remember that night well.
I scored a high five from Juddy after the game, and Eddie Betts handed me a towel that the guys gave to supporters post match.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: DJC on August 23, 2017, 04:29:06 pm
I'm heading out for the game.

I am taking my 7 yo son [who is still to see them win live] and we have managed to score tickets into the rooms from a family friend who is a dual Blues premiership player who we will be attending with. Can't wait for Saturday and posting about the experience.

I hope the boys give you plenty to cheer about!
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: flyboy77 on August 23, 2017, 04:52:01 pm
I heard roos on a press conference.

I am extremely worried that they will touch us up.

Roos was asked if they would see this match as a chance to boost percentage and he responded that they're just focused on winning the game.

Sounded like he was very aware of what they are up against and what needs to be done to win.

The Hawks beat them a few weeks back....

blues by 20.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: deags on August 23, 2017, 05:48:59 pm
I hope the boys give you plenty to cheer about!

Thanks. Me too, I f'ing hate the Swans!
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 23, 2017, 07:14:23 pm
As long as we on for 4 qtrs and make it difficult for them, we are in with a chance. Games like this agains teams like Syd at this time of the year are invaluable. Have faith, one more round fellas.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: Pratty on August 24, 2017, 09:24:10 am
Smedts out and Cuningham in for mine.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: DJC on August 24, 2017, 09:34:27 am
Smedts out and Cuningham in for mine.

Smedts would be stiff to miss out if he's fit.  Eight tackles was a fair effort and we'll need to apply the same sort of tackle pressure as we did against the Hawks.

Fraser gave Cuningham a decent review and his 'bigger body' comment is interesting.  Cuningham would seem to be the logical replacement if Smedts doesn't come up.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: Professer E on August 24, 2017, 10:08:08 am
Smedts has had enough chances.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: maxm68 on August 24, 2017, 10:13:39 am
I heard roos on a press conference.

I am extremely worried that they will touch us up.

Roos was asked if they would see this match as a chance to boost percentage and he responded that they're just focused on winning the game.

Sounded like he was very aware of what they are up against and what needs to be done to win.


Longmire  ;)     I would let it slide if you said it once... but twice and I have to call you out :D
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: LP on August 24, 2017, 10:52:54 am
No ACoS this time around, no Rowe, ACoS played a super game of Franklin last time.

I think the Swans will be set for revenge, but you never know what a little confidence against an opponent will bring.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: Bear on August 24, 2017, 12:11:12 pm
Hopefully we can stay in the match early, grind away and annoy the crape out of them.

Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: PaulP on August 24, 2017, 12:21:37 pm
Hopefully we can stay in the match early, grind away and annoy the crape out of them.

Yes. Whilst a win against a team like the Swans on their own dung heap would be huge, and an awesome way to finish, my realistic best hope is that we do our usual sneak ahead in the last and lose by a narrow margin.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: DJC on August 24, 2017, 12:29:34 pm
No ACoS this time around, no Rowe, ACoS played a super game of Franklin last time.

I think the Swans will be set for revenge, but you never know what a little confidence against an opponent will bring.

Yes, but Buddy hasn't had the Energiser Bunny treatment yet  :)
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: laj on August 24, 2017, 06:35:55 pm
CARLTON'S ROUND 23 TEAM:
Backs 20. Lachie Plowman 14. Liam Jones 15. Sam Docherty
Half-backs 6. Kade Simpson 23. Jacob Weitering 38. Ciaran Byrne
Centreline 25. Zac Fisher 5. Sam Petrevski-Seton 12. Blaine Boekhorst
Half-forwards 46. Matthew Wright 30. Charlie Curnow 39. Dale Thomas
Forwards 13. Jed Lamb 41. Levi Casboult 33. Jarrod Pickett
Followers 8. Matthew Kreuzer 4. Bryce Gibbs 3. Marc Murphy (C)

Interchange 27. Dennis Armfield 11. Sam Kerridge 16. Billie Smedts
31. Tom Williamson

Emergencies 32. Nick Graham 18. Kristian Jaksch 28. David Cuningham


SYDNEY
In: N.Newman, H.Cunningham
Out: D.Hannebery (hip), T.Papley (knee)

CARLTON
In: D.Armfield
Out: J.Silvagni (shoulder)
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: cookie2 on August 24, 2017, 06:36:36 pm
Army gets a gig! More farewells than Nellie Melba. Jack out (shoulder).
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: Baggers on August 24, 2017, 06:37:37 pm
CARLTON'S ROUND 23 TEAM:
Backs 20. Lachie Plowman 14. Liam Jones 15. Sam Docherty
Half-backs 6. Kade Simpson 23. Jacob Weitering 38. Ciaran Byrne
Centreline 25. Zac Fisher 5. Sam Petrevski-Seton 12. Blaine Boekhorst
Half-forwards 46. Matthew Wright 30. Charlie Curnow 39. Dale Thomas
Forwards 13. Jed Lamb 41. Levi Casboult 33. Jarrod Pickett
Followers 8. Matthew Kreuzer 4. Bryce Gibbs 3. Marc Murphy (C)

Interchange 27. Dennis Armfield 11. Sam Kerridge 16. Billie Smedts
31. Tom Williamson

Emergencies 32. Nick Graham 18. Kristian Jaksch 28. David Cuningham


SYDNEY
In: N.Newman, H.Cunningham
Out: D.Hannebery (hip), T.Papley (knee)

CARLTON
In: D.Armfield
Out: J.Silvagni (shoulder)

Den Den replacing SOJ, I like it. Gives us two good defensive forwards who can also impact the scoreboard.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: kruddler on August 24, 2017, 06:51:49 pm
No swansong for KJ.

Bye.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: sydneybluesfan on August 24, 2017, 06:59:46 pm
2 good sized outs for the swans. Papley is a difficult match up for us and Hannebery is a very consistent ball winner.

SOJ has looked to be playing under duress with that shoulder for weeks so I don't see him as a massive loss for this game.

Den Den will leave nothing behind. Play him on Rampe and Lamb on Mills to try and make them accountable and slow them down out defence.

I have a sneaking good feeling about this one, but I think that is blind hope that we finally get to see a win in Sydney after 6 long years more than anything. Just reckon the boys might be up for this after such a great win last week and wanting to put an exclamation mark on the season.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: Bear on August 24, 2017, 07:00:32 pm
Yes, but Buddy hasn't had the Energiser Bunny treatment yet  :)

Batman v Superman.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: cookie2 on August 24, 2017, 07:02:50 pm
2 good sized outs for the swans. Papley is a difficult match up for us and Hannebery is a very consistent ball winner.

SOJ has looked to be playing under duress with that shoulder for weeks so I don't see him as a massive loss for this game.

Den Den will leave nothing behind. Play him on Rampe and Lamb on Mills to try and make them accountable and slow them down out defence.

I have a sneaking good feeling about this one, but I think that is blind hope that we finally get to see a win in Sydney after 6 long years more than anything. Just reckon the boys might be up for this after such a great win last week and wanting to put an exclamation mark on the season.

I think you've just about nailed it SBF.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: PaulP on August 24, 2017, 07:07:38 pm
No swansong for KJ.

Bye.

Yes, sure seems like it.

I wonder if he's interested in an AFL career, and if another club will pick him up ?
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: kruddler on August 24, 2017, 07:13:12 pm
Yes, sure seems like it.

I wonder if he's interested in an AFL career, and if another club will pick him up ?

If he can't get a game in a side that has struggled for key forwards for 2 years now, he's done at AFL level.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: PaulP on August 24, 2017, 07:15:05 pm
If he can't get a game in a side that has struggled for key forwards for 2 years now, he's done at AFL level.

Yes, that's a fair point.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on August 24, 2017, 07:37:25 pm
2 good sized outs for the swans. Papley is a difficult match up for us and Hannebery is a very consistent ball winner.

SOJ has looked to be playing under duress with that shoulder for weeks so I don't see him as a massive loss for this game.

Den Den will leave nothing behind. Play him on Rampe and Lamb on Mills to try and make them accountable and slow them down out defence.

I have a sneaking good feeling about this one, but I think that is blind hope that we finally get to see a win in Sydney after 6 long years more than anything. Just reckon the boys might be up for this after such a great win last week and wanting to put an exclamation mark on the season.

Both their ins are ok, Cunningham plays well against us and Newman is a player I wanted from Frankston a couple of years back and he is a great kick of the footy, saying all that we are a chance IMO and if it was in Melbourne a real good chance but I guess the Swans have plenty to play for and are the form team and will start warm favourites.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: laj on August 24, 2017, 07:50:22 pm
Interesting point. Both Chris Judd and Dennis Armfield will finish with 145 games at Carlton, fitting given Armfield was the sneak knives in the Judd trade.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: laj on August 24, 2017, 07:52:51 pm
If he can't get a game in a side that has struggled for key forwards for 2 years now, he's done at AFL level.

His own fault. He's been  good in the VFL but if your attitude is bad you get what you deserve. He'll learn the hard way that you get one career if you don't make the most of it then it's gone.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: madbluboy on August 24, 2017, 07:57:47 pm
Interesting point. Both Chris Judd and Dennis Armfield will finish with 145 games at Carlton, fitting given Armfield was the sneak knives in the Judd trade.

We have lost that trade big now.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: DJC on August 24, 2017, 08:11:16 pm
We have lost that trade big now.

Why?
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on August 24, 2017, 08:18:12 pm
We have lost that trade big now.

Thought it was a win for both clubs...
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: PaulP on August 24, 2017, 08:22:12 pm
His own fault. He's been  good in the VFL but if your attitude is bad you get what you deserve. He'll learn the hard way that you get one career if you don't make the most of it then it's gone.

Over 3 completed seasons, he's played 7 games for us. His attitude must be beyond appalling. No games this season, and 1 in 2016. I mean, not even getting a gig on the interchange, not even getting a half of senior footy, not even a quarter ?

Is there more to it than just bad attitude ?
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: blue4life on August 24, 2017, 08:24:15 pm
I'm surprised that Armfield got a game because his last was nothing to write home about, maybe sentiment played a part.
If I was Rhys Palmer I'd just go through the motions next season, pick up the year's wages and retire.
Hannebery and Papley are handy outs for us but we'll still struggle I reckon, Sydney by 4 or 5 goals.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 24, 2017, 08:25:15 pm
Over 3 completed seasons, he's played 7 games for us. His attitude must be beyond appalling. No games this season, and 1 in 2016. I mean, not even getting a gig on the interchange, not even getting a half of senior footy, not even a quarter ?

Is there more to it than just bad attitude ?
Whats worse is that he has failed to impress 2 coaches, 2 MCs. There is something seriously wrong here.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: laj on August 24, 2017, 08:33:01 pm
Over 3 completed seasons, he's played 7 games for us. His attitude must be beyond appalling. No games this season, and 1 in 2016. I mean, not even getting a gig on the interchange, not even getting a half of senior footy, not even a quarter ?

Is there more to it than just bad attitude ?

Not on VFL form as it actually very good. Anyone else would've been in the side long ago on that form so it has to be attitude, which i've heard is pretty bad
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: PaulP on August 24, 2017, 08:35:14 pm
Whats worse is that he has failed to impress 2 coaches, 2 MCs. There is something seriously wrong here.

I guess if you count MM, Barker and Bolts, that's 3 coaches, which unfortunately, makes it look worse.

At a stretch, you could probably forgive 2015 - the club was in a bad place, and apart from that, maybe they wanted KJ in the 2's as a KPP for his own development.

But after that..........
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: PaulP on August 24, 2017, 08:36:12 pm
Not on VFL form as it actually very good. Anyone else would've been in the side long ago on that form so it has to be attitude, which i've heard is pretty bad

Thanks Jim.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: laj on August 24, 2017, 08:57:41 pm
I guess if you count MM, Barker and Bolts, that's 3 coaches, which unfortunately, makes it look worse.

At a stretch, you could probably forgive 2015 - the club was in a bad place, and apart from that, maybe they wanted KJ in the 2's as a KPP for his own development.

But after that..........

With MM he played 7 games then got injured for most of the year so never had a chance with Barker. He was young and there for development at that point. After that it was Bolton. Remember going to a VFL game here in Geelong in 2016 and he was simply outstanding with his leading, contested marking and goal kicking. Some players though simply don't want to help themselves and then work it out when it's too late. Apparently his attitude outside was poor as was his attitude at team meetings, which was very bad, at least from what i've heard.

On another note Carlton is going live tomorrow with a major announcement at 9.30am.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: LP on August 24, 2017, 09:00:49 pm
With MM he played 7 games then got injured for most of the year so never had a chance with Barker. He was young and there for development at that point. After that it was Bolton. Remember going to a VFL game here in Geelong in 2016 and he was simply outstanding with his leading, contested marking and goal kicking. Some players though simply don't want to help themselves and then work it out when it's too late.

Well KJ full of potential but delivered nothing!
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: laj on August 24, 2017, 09:02:01 pm
Well KJ full of potential but delivered nothing!

Playing well is one thing, wanting to is another.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: PaulP on August 24, 2017, 09:02:10 pm
With MM he played 7 games then got injured for most of the year so never had a chance with Barker. He was young and there for development at that point. After that it was Bolton. Remember going to a VFL game here in Geelong in 2016 and he was simply outstanding with his leading, contested marking and goal kicking. Some players though simply don't want to help themselves and then work it out when it's too late. Apparently his attitude outside was poor as was his attitude at team meetings, which was very bad, at least from what i've heard.

On another note Carlton is going live tomorrow with a major announcement at 9.30am.

Thanks Jim.

Wonder what the major announcement is ? Signing Dusty ?
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 24, 2017, 09:04:58 pm
With MM he played 7 games then got injured for most of the year so never had a chance with Barker. He was young and there for development at that point. After that it was Bolton. Remember going to a VFL game here in Geelong in 2016 and he was simply outstanding with his leading, contested marking and goal kicking. Some players though simply don't want to help themselves and then work it out when it's too late. Apparently his attitude outside was poor as was his attitude at team meetings, which was very bad, at least from what i've heard.

On another note Carlton is going live tomorrow with a major announcement at 9.30am.
I got a message via the app saying they are partnering up with Uber and UberEats.

Its on the website but tomorrow could be something else.
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2017-08-24/uber-and-ubereats-deliver-new-partnerships

Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: PaulP on August 24, 2017, 09:07:14 pm
I got a message via the app saying they are partnering up with Uber and UberEats.

Its on the website but tomorrow could be something else.
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2017-08-24/uber-and-ubereats-deliver-new-partnerships

Thanks GTC.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: blue4life on August 24, 2017, 09:17:35 pm
I got a message via the app saying they are partnering up with Uber and UberEats.

Its on the website but tomorrow could be something else.
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2017-08-24/uber-and-ubereats-deliver-new-partnerships

It's on their Facebook page as well, but there's another post saying that the club will be making a major announcement tomorrow at 9:30AM so I don't think it's got anything to do with Uber.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 24, 2017, 09:26:17 pm
It's on their Facebook page as well, but there's another post saying that the club will be making a major announcement tomorrow at 9:30AM so I don't think it's got anything to do with Uber.
Roger that.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: LP on August 24, 2017, 09:28:34 pm
I suspect Bolton is getting his long term deal.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: PaulP on August 24, 2017, 09:35:58 pm
I suspect Bolton is getting his long term deal.

It's a reasonable theory.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: madbluboy on August 24, 2017, 09:40:06 pm
I suspect Bolton is getting his long term deal.

You mean an extension of his 3 year non contract? ;D
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: cookie2 on August 24, 2017, 09:42:40 pm
A retirement?
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: crashlander on August 24, 2017, 09:52:12 pm
Carlton

B: Lachie Plowman, Liam Jones, Sam Docherty.
HB: Kade Simpson, Jacob Weitering, Ciaran Byrne.
C: Zac Fisher, Sam Petrevski-Seton, Blaine Boekhorst.
HF: Matthew Wright, Charlie Curnow, Dale Thomas.
F: Jed Lamb, Levi Casboult, Jarrod Pickett.
R: Matthew Kreuzer, Bryce Gibbs, Marc Murphy.
Int: Dennis Armfield, Sam Kerridge, Billie Smedts, Tom Williamson.

Emg: Nick Graham, Kristian Jaksch, David Cuningham.

In: Dennis Armfield
Out: Jack Silvagni (Shoulder)
 
I always have a few questions about our selection. This week is no exception. I am a bit surprised to see Smedts named, but there are already rumours he may miss. Fair enough.
I think Graham is a bit stiff not to get a game, as he was very good last week.
I was hoping that Caleb Marchbank would get up, but I guess we've seen fit to allow him to properly recover.


Sydney Swans

B: Nick Smith, Heath Grundy, Dane Rampe.
HB: Zak Jones, Lewis Melican, Jarrad McVeigh.
C: Isaac Heeney, Josh P. Kennedy, Jake Lloyd.
HF: Gary Rohan, Lance Franklin, Harry Cunningham.
F: George Hewett, Kurt Tippett, Sam Reid.
R: Callum Sinclair, Luke Parker, Kieren Jack.
Int: Will Hayward, Callum Mills, Nic Newman, Dean Towers.

Emg: Jordan Foote, Jeremy Laidler, Daniel Robinson.

In: Harry Cunningham, Nic Newman.

Out: Dan Hannebery (Hip), Tom Papley (Knee)

3 key forwards look interesting. Next year, when our list is fit. They may not try that trick. Not even sure it will work this time. But it is something we will have to be aware of. We do have only 3 tall defenders named, which means that Plowman may have to play tall this week.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: blue4life on August 24, 2017, 09:58:27 pm
I suspect Bolton is getting his long term deal.

That would suit me, he knows what he's doing and Collingwood might be in the market.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: PaulP on August 24, 2017, 10:01:24 pm
Carlton

B: Lachie Plowman, Liam Jones, Sam Docherty.
HB: Kade Simpson, Jacob Weitering, Ciaran Byrne.
C: Zac Fisher, Sam Petrevski-Seton, Blaine Boekhorst.
HF: Matthew Wright, Charlie Curnow, Dale Thomas.
F: Jed Lamb, Levi Casboult, Jarrod Pickett.
R: Matthew Kreuzer, Bryce Gibbs, Marc Murphy.
Int: Dennis Armfield, Sam Kerridge, Billie Smedts, Tom Williamson.

Emg: Nick Graham, Kristian Jaksch, David Cuningham.

In: Dennis Armfield
Out: Jack Silvagni (Shoulder)
 
I always have a few questions about our selection. This week is no exception. I am a bit surprised to see Smedts named, but there are already rumours he may miss. Fair enough.
I think Graham is a bit stiff not to get a game, as he was very good last week.
I was hoping that Caleb Marchbank would get up, but I guess we've seen fit to allow him to properly recover.


Sydney Swans

B: Nick Smith, Heath Grundy, Dane Rampe.
HB: Zak Jones, Lewis Melican, Jarrad McVeigh.
C: Isaac Heeney, Josh P. Kennedy, Jake Lloyd.
HF: Gary Rohan, Lance Franklin, Harry Cunningham.
F: George Hewett, Kurt Tippett, Sam Reid.
R: Callum Sinclair, Luke Parker, Kieren Jack.
Int: Will Hayward, Callum Mills, Nic Newman, Dean Towers.

Emg: Jordan Foote, Jeremy Laidler, Daniel Robinson.

In: Harry Cunningham, Nic Newman.

Out: Dan Hannebery (Hip), Tom Papley (Knee)

3 key forwards look interesting. Next year, when our list is fit. They may not try that trick. Not even sure it will work this time. But it is something we will have to be aware of. We do have only 3 tall defenders named, which means that Plowman may have to play tall this week.

I guess we could quibble about a couple of players, but that's close to our best 22 at the moment, allowing for injuries, club policy of playing youth etc.

Bloody hell, that Swans team looks good on paper.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: Thryleon on August 25, 2017, 01:26:17 am

Longmire  ;)     I would let it slide if you said it once... but twice and I have to call you out :D

Guilty as charged.

I did mean longmire.

I was posting whilst waiting for the Mrs to do some shopping.

Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: bratblue on August 25, 2017, 08:07:06 am
Guilty as charged.

I did mean longmire.

I was posting whilst waiting for the Mrs to do some shopping.

That could unhinge anyone
 :)
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: maxm68 on August 25, 2017, 11:02:03 am
Guilty as charged.

I did mean longmire.

I was posting whilst waiting for the Mrs to do some shopping.


I'll let u off the hook this time.........  as a spooky coincidence ? or you may have physic powers.. Roos.. yes Roos ;)  was talking percentage ( Sydney needing a boost ) last night on Foxtel league teams so u might be of been onto something all along
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: madbluboy on August 25, 2017, 12:31:28 pm
You could be forgiven for thinking Roos was still coaching Sydney, he certainly seems to get credit for all their success long after he left.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: laj on August 25, 2017, 06:01:53 pm
Matt Thompson
‎@MattThompson

Could be a big out for Carlton. We didn't see Levi Casboult at airport this morning, and now hearing he wasn't spotted at SCG this arvo.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: sydneybluesfan on August 25, 2017, 06:16:42 pm
Just got back from the open training.

Can confirm their was No Levi, and KJ and Graham were both in attendance and trained with the group.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: cookie2 on August 25, 2017, 06:17:35 pm
Matt Thompson
‎@MattThompson

Could be a big out for Carlton. We didn't see Levi Casboult at airport this morning, and now hearing he wasn't spotted at SCG this arvo.

Job interview?
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: Robblues on August 25, 2017, 06:26:30 pm
Mmmmmm hope it's not a sign?
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: PaulP on August 25, 2017, 06:29:36 pm
Just got back from the open training.

Can confirm their was No Levi, and KJ and Graham were both in attendance and trained with the group.

Thanks sbf. If he doesn't play, it will be interesting to watch the game and then check a few stats, just to see how the anti v pro Levi debate shapes up, with even a small sample space.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: laj on August 25, 2017, 06:34:03 pm
Wonder if he has informed that club of his decision hence we left him out.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: PaulP on August 25, 2017, 06:34:49 pm
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/sydney-swans/best-friends-gary-rohan-jed-lamb-square-off-in-sydney-swans-carlton-blues-match-20170825-gy4bnf.html

A very small sub plot, but a nice read IMO.

Probably plenty of stories like this throughout the AFL.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: laj on August 25, 2017, 06:57:24 pm
Apparently a couple have said Levi took a later flight. Apparently his Mrs is 39 weeks pregnant.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: cookie2 on August 25, 2017, 07:06:20 pm
Apparently a couple have said Levi took a later flight. Apparently his Mrs is 39 weeks pregnant.

Good. Hope all goes well for them! :)
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: LP on August 25, 2017, 07:06:34 pm
That's good, he been a good servant and if he's already told them he's going they should give him a chair off.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: Thryleon on August 26, 2017, 01:52:39 am
Mrs Casboult is 39 weeks and 4 days pregnant.

Given where we are at it says a bit about his importance to us and him to play.

Otherwise we could easily have stated give it a miss and we'll play someone else.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: LP on August 26, 2017, 06:36:24 am
Mrs Casboult is 39 weeks and 4 days pregnant.

Given where we are at it says a bit about his importance to us and him to play.

Otherwise we could easily have stated give it a miss and we'll play someone else.

He's playing for a contract!
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: DJC on August 26, 2017, 08:41:36 am
Mrs Casboult is 39 weeks and 4 days pregnant.

Given where we are at it says a bit about his importance to us and him to play.

Otherwise we could easily have stated give it a miss and we'll play someone else.

He has been following Lods' "Goaltracker" and wants a chance to double last year's goal tally  ;)

One reason why I'd like to see him in navy blue next season is that after 6 more games the father/son rule will kick in  :)
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: crashlander on August 26, 2017, 03:35:51 pm
He has been following Lods' "Goaltracker" and wants a chance to double last year's goal tally  ;)

One reason why I'd like to see him in navy blue next season is that after 6 more games the father/son rule will kick in  :)
Indeed. Always look for F/S's! Always.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on August 26, 2017, 03:55:44 pm
One change..The Plow is out and NickyG in....
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: cookie2 on August 26, 2017, 04:06:55 pm
One change..The Plow is out and NickyG in....

A pretty good "in" v. The Swans. Won't stand for any cr@p.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: kruddler on August 26, 2017, 04:29:35 pm
A pretty good "in" v. The Swans. Won't stand for any cr@p.

Graham, could be playing for his career today.

If true, he could not have asked for a better game to do so. Against sydney @ SCG means there will be a lot of stoppages in a smaller field, which is perfect for him.

He should end up with 30 today.
Title: Re: Rd 23: Pre Game Thread: Carlton vs Sydney
Post by: Professer E on August 26, 2017, 04:41:52 pm
Graham goes missing against physical opponents, would love to see him get 30 decent possies, but I ain't holding my breath.....