Sunday is the first time I have really noticed Nick Duigan's run up when kicking for goal.
When he walked back for his first shot I thought that he was going back a long way but that is not unusual among current day players. When he commenced his run up I was surprised at how quickly he built up speed and he was travelling considerably faster than most players when he kicked.
I watched his other three shots at goal ( note shots at goal, not on goal ;) ) and his method was consistent and effective. I noticed that his run up was fluid, relatively straight ( with just a slight movement to the right ) and clearly provided good momentum for his kicking action. The ball drop was controlled and the kick was well-timed.
At this point I should admit that I was a very average kick for goal and probably one of the last people to critique goal kicking. However, I would be interested in others' assessment of Duigan's run up.
Sunday is the first time I have really noticed Nick Duigan's run up when kicking for goal.
When he walked back for his first shot I thought that he was going back a long way but that is not unusual among current day players. When he commenced his run up I was surprised at how quickly he built up speed and he was travelling considerably faster than most players when he kicked.
I watched his other three shots at goal ( note shots at goal, not on goal ;) ) and his method was consistent and effective. I noticed that his run up was fluid, relatively straight ( with just a slight movement to the right ) and clearly provided good momentum for his kicking action. The ball drop was controlled and the kick was well-timed.
At this point I should admit that I was a very average kick for goal and probably one of the last people to critique goal kicking. However, I would be interested in others' assessment of Duigan's run up.
Goes against everything I've seen recently by Hall, Reiwolt, Plugger and Dunstall where they limit the build up to a walk with three or four quicker steps just before the ball drop. Chris Mayne from Freo does the same.
But it meets the number one criteria i.e. go with what works.
Sunday is the first time I have really noticed Nick Duigan's run up when kicking for goal.
When he walked back for his first shot I thought that he was going back a long way but that is not unusual among current day players. When he commenced his run up I was surprised at how quickly he built up speed and he was travelling considerably faster than most players when he kicked.
I watched his other three shots at goal ( note shots at goal, not on goal ;) ) and his method was consistent and effective. I noticed that his run up was fluid, relatively straight ( with just a slight movement to the right ) and clearly provided good momentum for his kicking action. The ball drop was controlled and the kick was well-timed.
At this point I should admit that I was a very average kick for goal and probably one of the last people to critique goal kicking. However, I would be interested in others' assessment of Duigan's run up.
Shultz from PA does the same thing, prick doesnt miss.
If he kicks another four goals he can tumble in gymnast style and I won't give a crap!
Sunday is the first time I have really noticed Nick Duigan's run up when kicking for goal.
When he walked back for his first shot I thought that he was going back a long way but that is not unusual among current day players. When he commenced his run up I was surprised at how quickly he built up speed and he was travelling considerably faster than most players when he kicked.
I watched his other three shots at goal ( note shots at goal, not on goal ;) ) and his method was consistent and effective. I noticed that his run up was fluid, relatively straight ( with just a slight movement to the right ) and clearly provided good momentum for his kicking action. The ball drop was controlled and the kick was well-timed.
At this point I should admit that I was a very average kick for goal and probably one of the last people to critique goal kicking. However, I would be interested in others' assessment of Duigan's run up.
Shultz from PA does the same thing, prick doesnt miss.
Couldn't agree more, it's a carbon copy of Jay Shultz
That guys the best kick for goal in the comp
From the biomechanical point of view, 5-7 steps is all that's needed. But there's no worries about adding steps before that as a kind of pre-run-up. At AFL level, adding some walking steps as Fev used to do or as Saad did helps because as soon as those little steps start, the umpire's 30s countdown to a play on call stops. No doubt, for some the pre-run-up helps them gather their thoughts too. JK's horsey gallop isn't really part of his run-up, but it seems to do him some psychological good as a pre-run-up routine.
Once it comes time for the fair dinkum 5-7 step run-up to start, however, the idea is to build up momentum and the strides lengthen with the last stride being as long as the kicker can comfortably manage. That's what provides the power as long as the kicking foot rises well above the knee and towards the bum. If you take too few steps, then it's much harder to maintain balance and there's a risk of the leg swinging across the body, and there's also a risk that the kicker will lean back which usually means a hooked kick.
The most important thing, however, is that a player has a routine which he uses for every shot at goal.
If he kicks another four goals he can tumble in gymnast style and I won't give a crap!
Agree. Don't see Weagle supporters complaining about JK's Fred Flinstone twinkle toe run up. ;D
I think he runs in fast because he is not confident covering the distance, he is not experienced as a forward so probably rightly so.
But most of his kicks went into the crowd so he should relax a bit!
When I was playing years ago I recall if I tried too hard I lost heaps of distance, my best kicks came out at about 90% effort.
I think he runs in fast because he is not confident covering the distance, he is not experienced as a forward so probably rightly so.
But most of his kicks went into the crowd so he should relax a bit!
When I was playing years ago I recall if I tried too hard I lost heaps of distance, my best kicks came out at about 90% effort.
Everyone has something that works best for them. Agree with the 90% effort thing, timing was everything for me. I also liked to keep my head over the ball and eyes straight at it. Never took my eyes off the ball or my boots or looked up till the follow through was well and truly done. Straight as a die 9 times outa 10. I guess for some kicking for goal on the run (ie with fwd momentum) works better for them that set shots. Hence if you can modify the set shot by carrying momentum, it a cross btw set shot and on the run, best of both world. Works for Shultz, worked for Duigs on the weekend. As LP said earlier, they can do backflips with their wangs out for all I care, as long as they kick 18.8 instead of 8.18, I will be happy.
I wonder if this is the way to go for some of our guys who seem to have no problem hitting targets around the ground but baulk in front of goals.
I am no kicking coach though...
DJC,
Listen to some of Malcolm Blight comments on shots at goal. He stated that being at running pace is best for a shot because that is how most of the kicking during a game is done. He doesn't like these slow and short run ups
I tend to agree Mantis; the closer to kicking on the run the better.
I guess the Fev slow and steady walk and kick has become the model for many players.
If Duigan has a quiet or shocker game this week do we all think that one glory game last week is enough to save his career.....?
If Duigan has a quiet or shocker game this week do we all think that one glory game last week is enough to save his career.....?
Hoping guys who rarely produce will come good and be consistent contributors is exactly what sold us into trouble.
If Duigan has a quiet or shocker game this week do we all think that one glory game last week is enough to save his career.....?
He's been good for three weeks EB.
If Duigan has a quiet or shocker game this week do we all think that one glory game last week is enough to save his career.....?
He's been good for three weeks EB.
Cimm...do you think thats enough given Mick didnt want to know him during the season?....if we get hammered by the Swans he might go back to the bad Mick and want to wipe out the list again...
If Duigan has a quiet or shocker game this week do we all think that one glory game last week is enough to save his career.....?
He's been good for three weeks EB.
Cimm...do you think thats enough given Mick didnt want to know him during the season?....if we get hammered by the Swans he might go back to the bad Mick and want to wipe out the list again...
He might, but like someone else mentioned Duigan might also be a poster boy for MM's philosophy (whatever that is ) plays a game early, gets dropped, works his way back and when he gets a game he performs in a final no less.
Anyway, I don't know but I like a confident Duigan in the side. His best does lift the side.
If he's kicking goals he's eating rolls.
Tell you who im quite impressed with. Ty Vickery. Very fluent set shot and i reckon i'd almost have him over Reiwoldt.
Vickery V Kruezer?
If he's kicking goals he's eating rolls.
Tell you who im quite impressed with. Ty Vickery. Very fluent set shot and i reckon i'd almost have him over Reiwoldt.
Vickery V Kruezer?
Kreuzer is a better ruck, Vickery is the better forward currently, but Kreuzer has had about 2 years where he cant get his body right, and the yips set in with his kicking.
Vickery sleeps with the lights on, Kreuzer makes everyone a bit antsy at ground level around the packs, and there is a reason why they are calling him tractor.
At the end of the day, you would want them both as they would be an ideal pairing, with Vickery pinch hitting for Kreuzer in the ruck.
Vickery V Kruezer?
Ty "The Fugu Kick King" Vickery is more like Hampson than Kreuzer, but The Fugu Kick King is not as good in the ruck as either Kreuzer or Hampson and kilometers behind Warnock.
At ground level I see The Fugu Kick King as being closer to Warnock once the ball hits the deck, or at least the way Warnock "was" before the last 5 or 6 quarters we have seen him play. (Why did we have to wait so long 206?)
Nothing worse than seeing a big guy stand and watch mids run around them without even trying to lay a tackle or try a shepherd.
The Fugu Kick King thinks his job has finished once his feet either hit the ground or the face of an opponent, whichever comes first!
Watched Vickey hit Paddy Ryder with a good right cross one day near the boundary line.....better mark and kick than Kruezer but is more of a specialist goalkicker than ruckman....when he rucks the Tigers mids dont get the ball...
If Duigan has a quiet or shocker game this week do we all think that one glory game last week is enough to save his career.....?
He's been good for three weeks EB.
Cimm...do you think thats enough given Mick didnt want to know him during the season?....if we get hammered by the Swans he might go back to the bad Mick and want to wipe out the list again...
He might, but like someone else mentioned Duigan might also be a poster boy for MM's philosophy (whatever that is ) plays a game early, gets dropped, works his way back and when he gets a game he performs in a final no less.
Anyway, I don't know but I like a confident Duigan in the side. His best does lift the side.
I reckon Duigs and Laids will both survive the cull. MM is similar to Phil Jackson on the Bulls and Lakers. Plays the mind games with the senior players to keep them mentally fresh, but is cut throat with rookies or younger players. Players like Joseph and Davies and probably O'Keefe who have been around for a while are at the front of the cull queue IMO.