Time to play the Drug Cheats. Hopefully with the slightly fitter list.
Time to play the Drug Cheats. Hopefully with the slightly fitter list.
Its a good time to get them. Battered, bruised and ripe for the picking.
Of course its about as good of a chance as we'll get for a win for a while...
Trains are back and I will be there!
Good chance to break the duck.
In a strange kind of way, in parts of the game last night, we were impressive against a quality team who despite injury, have depth and experience. If we can bring that for longer, we are a chance this week. Of course, we seem to always get teams back on track, I hope thats not this week. We aren't at "bring the mouth guards to training" like they were, at least as our fellas seem to be cracking in. We are just so messy with football, especially fwd of the centre. The number of grubbers (ie bounced at the feet of players) we executed last night was ridiculous. Commentators use the term "lower the eyes", our guys need to raise them a little. I would just like to see us get a game on our terms for longer periods. We did it in Q2 and parts of Q4 last night, Q1 and Q3 we were just spent chasing butt. As I said in another post, our fwds need to work to the front position more. If you get mauled, you are are every chance for a free. Casboult will miss, I would bring Kerr in. Didnt start the game weel yesterday but worked his way into it and made opportunities for himself by getting to right spots. Reminded me of Whitnall. Plow will more than likely miss, Weiters would come in. I doubt Charlie and Marchy will be risked.
I liked Kruze and Flip working in tandem to be honest so I hope they go again with it.
Its all about attitude, keep your heads up and keep cracking in boys.
Go Blues.
Not sure on the status of Casboult, but give him the week off. Brink in Kerr and keep 2 rucks.
McKay, Kreuzer/Phillips and Kerr will be a forwardline we never thought would happen at the start of the year....with or without Curnowfides.
Kennedy is a worry. He reminds me of Kreuzer the way he moves around, both speed and agility. Problem is he is 4 inches smaller than him and should be moving a lot quicker and be more agile! Needs to be fit.
Lang might finally be ready for his debut.
Weiters in for Oshea.
Maybe SOJ against the old enemy will find another gear.
Kerridge and Graham will be thankful the cupboard is bare....at least filled with injured players.
Ditto Mullett.
Not sure on the status of Casboult, but give him the week off. Brink in Kerr and keep 2 rucks.
McKay, Kreuzer/Phillips and Kerr will be a forwardline we never thought would happen at the start of the year....with or without Curnowfides.
Kennedy is a worry. He reminds me of Kreuzer the way he moves around, both speed and agility. Problem is he is 4 inches smaller than him and should be moving a lot quicker and be more agile! Needs to be fit.
Lang might finally be ready for his debut.
Weiters in for Oshea.
Maybe SOJ against the old enemy will find another gear.
Kerridge and Graham will be thankful the cupboard is bare....at least filled with injured players.
Ditto Mullett.
Forgot about Oshea in my post, he must go. Problem is if Plow misses, we will have no choice.
Id go
FB 11 14 6
HB 23 17 39
C 25 9 4
HF 5 36 16
FF 21 10 46
R 8 35 7
INT 2 34 32 37 or 13
IN 23 16 36 37 or 13
OUT 20 41 24 18
Abit radical, 6 5 46 cant count themselves lucky IMO
Forgot about Oshea in my post, he must go. Problem is if Plow misses, we will have no choice.
Unfortunately O'Shea looks to have reached his level of incompetence. Does not look comfortable at all.
Kennedy isn't fit enough. He was gasping for air early in the game and in no shape to play AFL.
Kennedy isn't fit enough. He was gasping for air early in the game and in no shape to play AFL.
He did a few things that I thought were OK but as you say, just cannot live with the pace of the game atm. Unfortunately not many options to replace him with atm but he certainly would benefit from a spell to improve his fitness level. We may have decided he will do that by just keep playing him?
With Levi likely to be out the door may open for Kerr... hope so. And with Plowman also likely to miss you'd suspect Weitering to get a call up. As others have noted, Weitering and Jones in the same defence is a real worry.
I hope Kennedy is injured or underdone, because if he isn't and this is what he brings... well, we've been duped (he was about the 4th choice afterall, gulp).
I would definitely bring in Shaw for O'Shea, lethal left foot actually hits targets - how novel!
I hope we resist the temptation to bring in SOJ as it'd be great for him to keep learning inside mid stuff in the Magoos where he is really showing something re reading the aggott and imposing himself on the contest.
Lang probably needs another week in the twos for fitness but I likes what I saw early on yesterday when his tank was full. Not a star, but does bring composure and acceptable leg speed and strength in the contest. Might be too much of a temptation to bring him in at the expense of Graham though.
It would be shameful to lose to cheats.com.au ...who no doubt will be really pumped to get their season back on track and beat up on us.
Levi's out for 4 weeks with a fractured rib and an injury to the lining of his lung. Drop a ruckman and bring Kerr in. We don't want this 2 ruck thing happening. Phillips works hard buts has only had 20 touches in 3 weeks. If you're a 2nd ruck you have to give something up forward both on the scoreboard and applying defensive pressure, the latter not the domain of a lumbering ruckman. Much better with a smaller runner. McKay's capable of relieving now. If not Rowe might fill-in.
Levi's out for 4 weeks with a fractured rib and an injury to the lining of his lung. Drop a ruckman and bring Kerr in. We don't want this 2 ruck thing happening. Phillips works hard buts has only had 20 touches in 3 weeks. If you're a 2nd ruck you have to give something up forward both on the scoreboard and applying defensive pressure, the latter not the domain of a lumbering ruckman. Much better with a smaller runner. McKay's capable of relieving now. If not Rowe might fill-in.
McKay is next to useless in the ruck, it's not something he does by default and he's got no idea, plus he's still green in regards to his back issues.
Charlie should be back next week, he'll cover Casboult's loss comfortably. What we need next week is McKay using his bulk inside F50 to create opportunities for the smalls, instead of looking for cheap marks out that back which pays off only once or twice a game!
We may drop Phillips as it was a very ordinary game by his standards, but my SA mate tells me Kreuzer had an injury moment late in the game not captured on TV so do not be surprised if he is out again. Plowman and SPS also had some problems late in the game.
We can't go just with Kreuzer without Levi.
If he doesn't survive four quarters we are left without ruckmen except for Rowe.
Phillips has to play.
Kerr isn't a four quarter player yet, neither is McKay. It's tough work in our MC at the moment. What we don't want is too many underdone players. I reckon Lang isn't ahead of jsos for a midfield role.
We can't go just with Kreuzer without Levi.
If he doesn't survive four quarters we are left without ruckmen except for Rowe.
Phillips has to play.
Don't forget Jones, he's is capable of doing the Phillips/Casboult role if we want to give him the opportunity.
Kerr isn't a four quarter player yet, neither is McKay. It's tough work in our MC at the moment. What we don't want is too many underdone players. I reckon Lang isn't ahead of jsos for a midfield role.
Based on yesterday, Polson was well ahead of both of them. SoJ is miles away from AFL level midfield, Lang either isn't right in body or mind, or we've been dudded with another Handbagger's plodder!
The problem we have is that Polson won't be much use if we are only getting 1/2 a game from SPS or Kennedy.
I thought Kerridge was disappointing last night, that was a big opportunity to show what he had to offer against a better side. Some said he was limping, but I didn't notice him significantly hampered in any way when he was in the clear!
I like the idea of Jones in the Casboult role.
I'm interested to see whether he may have learned a few things covering some of the League's best forwards....and he has played a bit of ruck at VFL level.
The other thing is it takes a bit of pressure off deciding which of the tall defenders to play....we're still going to have a glut.
Kerr won the NB's the game IMO, he is physical, kicks goals and changes games....a quarter of Kerr being on is all you need, why he cant get a game is beyond me.
Get him and Harry working together, thats development....the goalkicking needs to be Mckay and Kerr leading the way, not Casboult and Wright....
Kerr is the closest player we have had in terms of giving us what Fev gave us on the field.....
Levi's out for 4 weeks with a fractured rib and an injury to the lining of his lung. Drop a ruckman and bring Kerr in. We don't want this 2 ruck thing happening. Phillips works hard buts has only had 20 touches in 3 weeks. If you're a 2nd ruck you have to give something up forward both on the scoreboard and applying defensive pressure, the latter not the domain of a lumbering ruckman. Much better with a smaller runner. McKay's capable of relieving now. If not Rowe might fill-in.
Isn't it about time that the AFL did something about knees to the back? We'll have ruptured kidney's and lungs along with spinal injuries and more breaks to rips before too long (owing to the strength and speed of players today impacts to the back are more dangerous than in years gone by).
Kerr won the NB's the game IMO, he is physical, kicks goals and changes games....a quarter of Kerr being on is all you need, why he cant get a game is beyond me.
Get him and Harry working together, thats development....the goalkicking needs to be Mckay and Kerr leading the way, not Casboult and Wright....
Kerr is the closest player we have had in terms of giving us what Fev gave us on the field.....
Yes, I can see this will be the case long term, I think we will eventually have Charlie doing a role like Lynch does for the Crows.
Players must be played in a way that makes use of their natural strengths, not in roles that they are 50% good at! We seem over obsessed with turning everybody into a utility!
The problem Levi has is that he's not feared, so blokes will just push him around and use him as a step ladder when conditions present. For a 200cm x 100kg player he's a gentle giant!
They won't do that to Kerr in the long run.
McKay has a bit of nastiness about him, but I suspect he'll have to be a victim for a while until he gets fed up with being bullied, and then it'll be on like Donkey Kong!
The thing with Kerr, even when he's not getting stuff his own way he's doing the right things to bring team-mates into the game. For example he'll draw defenders leaving team-mates one on one instead of dragging them to the contest.
Isn't it about time that the AFL did something about knees to the back? We'll have ruptured kidney's and lungs along with spinal injuries and more breaks to rips before too long (owing to the strength and speed of players today impacts to the back are more dangerous than in years gone by).
Levi should be the one putting the fear of god into defenders that chop into his space, not the victim, he runs around players instead of through them!
Bad luck for Levi - he was showing some much better form recently. Will be an opportunity to get Kerr into the side though and it will be interesting to see him alongside Harry. Both are pretty mobile for big guys.
Bad luck for Levi - he was showing some much better form recently. Will be an opportunity to get Kerr into the side though and it will be interesting to see him alongside Harry. Both are pretty mobile for big guys.
Yes I feel sorry for him, we have a play nice mentality and we think the opposition will reciprocate, but it makes us road kill!
Levi's out for 4 weeks with a fractured rib and an injury to the lining of his lung. Drop a ruckman and bring Kerr in. We don't want this 2 ruck thing happening. Phillips works hard buts has only had 20 touches in 3 weeks. If you're a 2nd ruck you have to give something up forward both on the scoreboard and applying defensive pressure, the latter not the domain of a lumbering ruckman. Much better with a smaller runner. McKay's capable of relieving now. If not Rowe might fill-in.
The minute Kruze rucks alone without Flip, he will break down with his groin, nothing surer.
I don't think it was a failure last night...neither had great possessions but it wasn't a disaster either.
Kerr won the NB's the game IMO, he is physical, kicks goals and changes games....a quarter of Kerr being on is all you need, why he cant get a game is beyond me.
Get him and Harry working together, thats development....the goalkicking needs to be Mckay and Kerr leading the way, not Casboult and Wright....
Kerr is the closest player we have had in terms of giving us what Fev gave us on the field.....
He'll have to get a game, almost by default, given the Bolt is out....
And I agree Kerr has earnt a game too!
Kerr for Casboult, Weitering for O'Shea, Polson for Phillips, McKay can give Kreuzer a chop out in the ruck.
Maybe Lamb for Graham as well but that's a bit of a nil all draw.
Essendon's strength is their run and spread, if we go in top heavy they'll cut us up.
Bad luck for Levi - he was showing some much better form recently. Will be an opportunity to get Kerr into the side though and it will be interesting to see him alongside Harry. Both are pretty mobile for big guys.
I've heard mixed views on Kerr's mobility. Some say he's a straight line type of operator.
I've heard mixed views on Kerr's mobility. Some say he's a straight line type of operator.
He's no better or worse than Levi or Taylor Walker.
Where and when you run is just as if not more important than how you get there!
Kerr for Casboult, Weitering for O'Shea, Polson for Phillips, McKay can give Kreuzer a chop out in the ruck.
Maybe Lamb for Graham as well but that's a bit of a nil all draw.
Essendon's strength is their run and spread, if we go in top heavy they'll cut us up.
Is Charlie not back this week? :o
Is Charlie not back this week? :o
Let's hope so, but one week injuries tend to morph into a month at the CFC.
If he's back then Graham can make way and there's no need for Lamb.
I've heard mixed views on Kerr's mobility. Some say he's a straight line type of operator.
He looked pretty mobile in the last NB game but I have to admit that I haven't seem a lot of him. Regular NB game attendees maybe could cast more light on this but he looked very good to me.
The media has flogged the bumbers today, calling them soft, won't tackle etc Sounds like motivation via the fifth estate. Thus, I expect them to not only throw the kitchen sink at us for the win, but to attempt to physically lord it over us, especially our kids.
Any bloke wearing blue will need to be very prepared when they cross the line next Saturday afternoon... and I expect us to push back just as hard.
Charlie and Marchbank back this week.
2 rucks has always had the dual impact of losing one runner which hamstrings the team and Kreuzer's form immediately goes right to sh$t.
Phillips has to be dropped - as much as I like him. Great to have strong backup options though.
O'Shea has to go. Graham will probably be dropped and Sammo looks like he needs a rest.
Kennedy looks tentative to me. Not 100% confident in his body.
Some rumors floating around the media this morning that Murphy might be surprise early return this week.
PS; Well, well, later that day who'd have think it! http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2018-05-08/trio-pushing-for-return
Charlie and Marchbank back this week.
2 rucks has always had the dual impact of losing one runner which hamstrings the team and Kreuzer's form immediately goes right to sh$t.
Phillips has to be dropped - as much as I like him. Great to have strong backup options though.
O'Shea has to go. Graham will probably be dropped and Sammo looks like he needs a rest.
Kennedy looks tentative to me. Not 100% confident in his body.
Wonder if Rowe or Jones will go forward to take the 2nd ruck role. Jones did that so well in the VFL last year before his promotion. Either would have the effect of shrinking our defence. Jones would be better has he and Weitering play similarly. Like you said, 2 rucks hamstrings us and means we pick one less runner for no reason. Kreuzer plays alot better with the continuity on the ball as does Casboult when he gets a run on the ball.
I'm wondering about Kennedy's fitness. just 69% game time last week.
Word I have is Daniher is out.
Probably a bad thing for us because nobody has wasted more footy and burnt more team-mates recently than Daniher!
Word I have is Daniher is out.
Probably a bad thing for us because nobody has wasted more footy and burnt more team-mates recently than Daniher!
Onset of osteitis pubis. 4 weeks out.
Onset of osteitis pubis. 4 weeks out.
Some back room rumors suggest it's closer to Pisum Cordis!
Onset of osteitis pubis. 4 weeks out.
It's a crap of an injury... and hard to get over.
Made even crappier by the fact that it will now be the "injury ravaged Dons" >:(
It's a crap of an injury... and hard to get over.
Made even crappier by the fact that it will now be the "injury ravaged Dons" >:(
Kruze heading down the same track I reckon.
Some rumors floating around the media this morning that Murphy might be surprise early return this week.
PS; Well, well, later that day who'd have think it! http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2018-05-08/trio-pushing-for-return
Don't be shy L.P. admit it. You're waaay ahead of the pack ;)
Don't be shy L.P. admit it. You're waaay ahead of the pack ;)
Nothing to do with me, in this case it's the media who are the ones deserving the credit, they knew about this well before it was publicly announced!
Personally, I'd doubt he gets up from Planta Fasciitis in just three weeks, so it will be a surprise!
No way can we play Rowe, Jones and Weiters (let alone Marchbank) in the back line at the same time....
No way can we play Rowe, Jones and Weiters (let alone Marchbank) in the back line at the same time....
Won't be surprised to see it happening, structurally Weitering is far superior to Jones, Weitering besides Rowe can be a formidable defense. Jones in the wrong mode degrades what Rowe and Weitering offer.
But on form, not sure who gets omitted if Weitering and Marchbank both come into the defence.
Given our current list injury situation, I can genuinely see Jones getting Levi's role, but who then is the forward zone leader?
I'm not sure we are using Marchbank correctly, he's like a giant version of Simmo at the moment.
A mate suggested if fit Plowman could be a F50 target, apparently he's played this role before and done OK, I can't recall seeing it so it must have been along long ago!
No matter what, it looks like our F50 is the problem, so I won't be surprised to find SoJ or Kerr coming in as well!
Team selection will be very interesting this week.
Do they pick a team based on good structure or good form?
With Casboult out, Kerr seems like a good replacement, even if not quite AFL ready at this stage.
Several players either coming back from injury or battling niggles. Ideally, most should be rested, but our lack of depth in some areas puts the pressure on.
Everything is amplified with facing the scum at the MCG on a Saturday afternoon.
Everything is amplified with facing the scum at the MCG on a Saturday afternoon.
I won't be there, first game against CheatsFC I have missed for quite a while, we are sure to win! ;D
Team selection will be very interesting this week.
Do they pick a team based on good structure or good form?
With Casboult out, Kerr seems like a good replacement, even if not quite AFL ready at this stage.
Several players either coming back from injury or battling niggles. Ideally, most should be rested, but our lack of depth in some areas puts the pressure on.
Everything is amplified with facing the scum at the MCG on a Saturday afternoon.
This is one we NEED to win - pick a team focused solely on doing that. >:D
Trains are back and I will be there! :)
No way can we play Rowe, Jones and Weiters (let alone Marchbank) in the back line at the same time....
Chance Jones might go forward to relieve ruck. Don't see the point of picking 2 rucks at the expense of a runner.
Chance Jones might go forward to relieve ruck. Don't see the point of picking 2 rucks at the expense of a runner.
Just as long as Weiters doesn't go forward - that idea should be put away - for the time being at least!
Chance Jones might go forward to relieve ruck. Don't see the point of picking 2 rucks at the expense of a runner.
Agree entirely.
No way can we play Rowe, Jones and Weiters (let alone Marchbank) in the back line at the same time....
Agree. With the exception of Jones... just way too slow.
Agree. With the exception of Jones... just way too slow.
I'd play Shaw this week off half back, was steady vs Frankston and in a winnable game I think Essendon would suit him as they are not physical but play wide and run the ball, because Jack and JW were in our best last week in the NB's doesnt mean they are automatics if I was picking the team. Maybe one of them could play and would only play Marchbank if he was fit, he probably needs a game in the NB's like JW had...
I'd play Shaw this week off half back, was steady vs Frankston and in a winnable game I think Essendon would suit him as they are not physical but play wide and run the ball, because Jack and JW were in our best last week in the NB's doesnt mean they are automatics if I was picking the team. Maybe one of them could play and would only play Marchbank if he was fit, he probably needs a game in the NB's like JW had...
Agree SOS needs more time in the 2's. Not sure about Weiters though as we know his best is good enough. However is one performance enough? A couple of more performances like that in the 2s wont hurt. Also agree with Shaw (never thought Id say that after watching him in the preseason games).
Agree SOS needs more time in the 2's. Not sure about Weiters though as we know his best is good enough. However is one performance enough? A couple of more performances like that in the 2s wont hurt. Also agree with Shaw (never thought Id say that after watching him in the preseason games).
That performance alone is enough. It was brilliant.
Wouldn't mid SOS coming in to play more in the midfield. Essendon hate it in-close so SOS would be a good pick this week for that purpose. Like to see Shaw off half-back, we need to shrink there and get more run. Then Jones forward as the back up ruckman. 2 rucks on a wet day would be dumb.
Agree SOS needs more time in the 2's. Not sure about Weiters though as we know his best is good enough. However is one performance enough? A couple of more performances like that in the 2s wont hurt. Also agree with Shaw (never thought Id say that after watching him in the preseason games).
Be interesting how Essendon line up with no Daniher...I'd expect Hooker to start forward with Stewart as their KP players......with Stringer as the 3rd tall forward........
Reckon Rowe has to get Hooker.......I'd play Jones or Marchbank(fitness) on Stringer and maybe Weitering on Stewart.....
Weitering simply has to play, his performance in the VFL last Saturday was one of the most dominant in living memory.
Daniher out though so do we need many tall defenders?
Weitering for O'Shea is a no brainer but after that it gets tricky.
I watched the VFL and wasn't overly impressed with Silvagni, I liked Polson's game more.
Weitering simply has to play, his performance in the VFL last Saturday was one of the most dominant in living memory.
Daniher out though so do we need many tall defenders?
Weitering for O'Shea is a no brainer but after that it gets tricky.
I watched the VFL and wasn't overly impressed with Silvagni, I liked Polson's game more.
Agree..I thought Polson went ok and it was the best game I have seen him play, used the ball better and kicked longer, looks like a genuine rover.
Weitering simply has to play, his performance in the VFL last Saturday was one of the most dominant in living memory.
Daniher out though so do we need many tall defenders?
Weitering for O'Shea is a no brainer but after that it gets tricky.
I watched the VFL and wasn't overly impressed with Silvagni, I liked Polson's game more.
Against pretty ordinary opposition. We play 4th placed Willi this week, lets see how he goes against better oppo.
Against pretty ordinary opposition. We play 4th placed Willi this week, lets see how he goes against better oppo.
If that's the case then why did we drop players after the Richmond and the West coast game?
Two sides who have lost one match and both sitting proudly king of the pile.
Just as long as Weiters doesn't go forward - that idea should be put away - for the time being at least!
Most definitely. Hope we've learned from that costly exercise
Wet track, heavy conditions, big bodies require. Enter D Lang
Wet track, heavy conditions, big bodies require. Enter D Lang
Enter that GC Shaw bloke....
Wet track, heavy conditions, big bodies require. Enter D Lang
Think Lang is around 82kg and with injury history, probably not the game to debut in , looked rusty first up from a spell and needs a few more games IMO.
Kennedy has to stand up this game and conditions should suit Nick Graham with a bit of sting out of the track.....bit of volatility in the weather might make this more of a game of attrition
and I give us a real chance of winning providing we pick the right team and dont end up top heavy with wrong matchups.....
Think Lang is around 82kg and with injury history, probably not the game to debut in , looked rusty first up from a spell and needs a few more games IMO.
Kennedy has to stand up this game and conditions should suit Nick Graham with a bit of sting out of the track.....bit of volatility in the weather might make this more of a game of attrition
and I give us a real chance of winning providing we pick the right team and dont end up top heavy with wrong matchups.....
Why doesn't the MC listen to you EB? You always come up with many good ideas.
Oh to be a fly on their wall!
Think Lang is around 82kg and with injury history, probably not the game to debut in , looked rusty first up from a spell and needs a few more games IMO.
Kennedy has to stand up this game and conditions should suit Nick Graham with a bit of sting out of the track.....bit of volatility in the weather might make this more of a game of attrition
and I give us a real chance of winning providing we pick the right team and dont end up top heavy with wrong matchups.....
If Kennedy's ankle/leg is not 100%, he shouldn't play either....he hasn't looked fully fit since Q1 of the Tigers' game.
Will we ever learn! :-[
Against pretty ordinary opposition. We play 4th placed Willi this week, lets see how he goes against better oppo.
Not worried about the opposition. You play like that unless you're going well.
Not worried about the opposition. You play like that unless you're going well.
Interesting thing at Frankston, the coaches box and Dolphins change rooms are on the outer wing. The coaches walk from the box to the change rooms through the crowd. They had a very public debate as they walked across the terraces past the outer wing can bar, basically stated that the game was a battle of the HBFs, and that the NBs through Weitering and Shaw had hurt them more than they were hurting us. They were also talking about their tackling intensity being down relative to the NBs. Some of them thought their ball use was bad which let our HBFs read the play too easily, others thought their ball use was OK but that our ball use and decision making coming off the HBF was so much better, at a much higher level. To me it looked 50/50 cause and effect, they appeared to have a tactic to use a medium/small to try and leverage a speed and agility difference and it didn't work because Weitering rarely dropped a mark when he was in the vicinity. Weitering and JGM were both quite good at corralling the Frankston small forwards to hold them up.
Why doesn't the MC listen to you EB? You always come up with many good ideas.
Oh to be a fly on their wall!
Thanks for the vote of confidence BP but I get plenty wrong too , easier from the armchair and if you fire 100 bullets you have to hit something.. ;)
The MC has been selecting teams and games have been played, imo, based on player and game plan development as the highest priorities. That's why we've seen some strange events that we may truly ponder about. We'll see more of it this year no doubt. However, THIS WEEK please I would urge you, focus on getting us a win, and solely focus on that! It would be great to break the duck with the Bummers.......
The MC has been selecting teams and games have been played, imo, based on player and game plan development as the highest priorities. That's why we've seen some strange events that we may truly ponder about. We'll see more of it this year no doubt. However, THIS WEEK please I would urge you, focus on getting us a win, and solely focus on that! It would be great to break the duck with the Bummers.......
Yep ..A win does a lot for development too, no Daniher, Bombers playing poorly, timing is right for us to win this game unless we muck up at selection or suffer some catastrophic injuries.
A belting from the hated enemy is going to have ramifications off the field and this is a very important game for Bolton IMO....
Yep ..A win does a lot for development too, no Daniher, Bombers playing poorly, timing is right for us to win this game unless we muck up at selection or suffer some catastrophic injuries.
A belting from the hated enemy is going to have ramifications off the field and this is a very important game for Bolton IMO....
Line in the sand game do you EB?
All on board or else ala Richmond!
Line in the sand game do you EB?
All on board or else ala Richmond!
Dont think Bolton will lose his job this season but there might be a review of sorts done on his support staff, goal setting etc, media will ramp up the pressure and the usual agitators like Mathieson will question where we are heading. Boltons knows he needs a win as last weeks presser showed, he has played down getting results and being all about development but the cracks are appearing IMO and he needs a win to get some breathing space..
N: Lang, Curnow, Lamb
OUT: Levi (Injured), Phillips Kennedy (Both Omitted)
CARLTON'S ROUND 8 LINE-UP:
Backs 20. Lachie Plowman 17. Sam Rowe 39. Dale Thomas
Half-backs 18. Aaron Mullett 14. Liam Jones 6. Kade Simpson
Centreline 16. Darcy Lang 9. Patrick Cripps (C) 35. Ed Curnow
Half-forwards 32. Nick Graham 10. Harry McKay 25. Zac Fisher
Forwards 21. Jarrod Garlett 30. Charlie Curnow 5. Sam Petrevski-Seton
Followers 8. Matthew Kreuzer 2. Paddy Dow 11. Sam Kerridge
Interchange 13. Jed Lamb 4. Lochie O'Brien 46. Matthew Wright
24. Cameron O'Shea
Emergencies 34. Andrew Phillips 37. Matthew Shaw 1. Jack Silvagni
29. Cameron Polson
In: Lang, Lamb, C. Curnow
Out: Casboult (injured), Phillips (omitted), Kennedy (omitted)
New: Lang (Geelong Cats)
Probably a team for the expected conditions ;)
Cam O’Shea baffles me :o
Lamb's mission will be to be his agitating best maybe against Goddard as a defensive forward.
We might (will) see Jones and/or McKay doing a bit of ruck work.
I'd say we plan in Jones as relief ruck hence maybe why we still have O'Shea to go back. But why O'Shea ahead of Weitering.
We might (will) see Jones and/or McKay doing a bit of ruck work.
Or even Rowe but he's more likely to be no.1 defender though given the line-up.
One week 3 rucks, the next week 1.
MC have no idea about what they're trying to achieve.
I'd say we plan in Jones as relief ruck hence maybe why we still have O'Shea to go back. But why O'Shea ahead of Weitering.
A little bit of management I suspect.
The conditions won't suit him.
The last thing we want is to rush him back and have him struggle.
Let him have another game at the lower level to build his confidence a bit more... then bring him back.
A little bit of management I suspect.
The conditions won't suit him.
The last thing we want is to rush him back and have him struggle.
Let him have another game at the lower level to build his confidence a bit more... then bring him back.
Agree. One Swallow (Frankston) does not make a summer.
Lang isn't fit enough based on what I saw last week.
Lang isn't fit enough based on what I saw last week.
Yep a puzzling selection - didn't do much in the NBs game from what I saw on TV.
Thanks for the vote of confidence BP but I get plenty wrong too , easier from the armchair and if you fire 100 bullets you have to hit something.. ;)
And that reply is why you are my favourite poster.
Cam O’Shea baffles me :o
Agree CJ..his disposal by foot has been woeful over 15m.....he must be getting the defending part of his game right and keeping his man quiet perhaps?
And that reply is why you are my favourite poster.
:-[ Cheers Jeffy, cheques in the mail.... :P
N: Lang, Curnow, Lamb
OUT: Levi (Injured), Phillips Kennedy (Both Omitted)
CARLTON'S ROUND 8 LINE-UP:
Backs 20. Lachie Plowman 17. Sam Rowe 39. Dale Thomas
Half-backs 18. Aaron Mullett 14. Liam Jones 6. Kade Simpson
Centreline 16. Darcy Lang 9. Patrick Cripps (C) 35. Ed Curnow
Half-forwards 32. Nick Graham 10. Harry McKay 25. Zac Fisher
Forwards 21. Jarrod Garlett 30. Charlie Curnow 5. Sam Petrevski-Seton
Followers 8. Matthew Kreuzer 2. Paddy Dow 11. Sam Kerridge
Interchange 13. Jed Lamb 4. Lochie O'Brien 46. Matthew Wright
24. Cameron O'Shea
Emergencies 34. Andrew Phillips 37. Matthew Shaw 1. Jack Silvagni
29. Cameron Polson
In: Lang, Lamb, C. Curnow
Out: Casboult (injured), Phillips (omitted), Kennedy (omitted)
New: Lang (Geelong Cats)
More than a tad surprised that Lang was named. As others have mentioned, he has not looked fit enough or intense enough in the VFL as yet.
I can understand why Lamb got the nod: he was the emergency last week. I am not sure he is the man for the game.
ESSENDON
B: Mark Baguley, Michael Hurley, Adam Saad
HB: Conor McKenna, Patrick Ambrose, Brendon Goddard
C: Orazio Fantasia, Zach Merrett, Kobe Mutch
HF: Jayden Laverde, James Stewart, Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti
F: David Myers, Cale Hooker, David Zaharakis
R: Tom Bellchambers, Devon Smith, Dyson Heppell
Int: Ben McNiece, Shaun McKernan, Darcy Parish, Jake Stringer
Emg: Jordan Ridley, Kyle Langford, Matt Guelfi, Dylan Clarke
IN: Orazio Fantasia, Shaun McKernan
OUT: Joe Daniher (Injured), Andrew McGrath (Injured)
On paper they are so much closer to their best 22. They should win. Hope we can spoil them!
Shocked at Lang's selection. Looked very underdone at VFL level last week. Tough ask for the kid. Lamb I'm not surprised, we need some mongrel and he has performed well on Goddard before, horses for courses. Charlie Curnow for Casboult is a no-brainer. Not surprised Phillips got dropped, we just can't play two dinosaur ruckmen in the current game. Kennedy is the worry for me. If he was out injured I would understand, I don't reckon his ankle is right. But omitted suggests not doing what the coaches want well enough to hold his spot (and replaced by either Lang or Lamb), that is an issue
Shocked at Lang's selection. Looked very underdone at VFL level last week. Tough ask for the kid. Lamb I'm not surprised, we need some mongrel and he has performed well on Goddard before, horses for courses. Charlie Curnow for Casboult is a no-brainer. Not surprised Phillips got dropped, we just can't play two dinosaur ruckmen in the current game. Kennedy is the worry for me. If he was out injured I would understand, I don't reckon his ankle is right. But omitted suggests not doing what the coaches want well enough to hold his spot (and replaced by either Lang or Lamb), that is an issue
Yep, totally agree... :Lang was good early but did tire. Considering the forecast, glad the club resisted bringing Weitering in. None of the 3 inclusions are slow. Serious question marks over Kennedy... another GWS dud for us, SOS? Please, no.
Mullett, O'Shea, Lamb, Graham and Pickett would not get close to a game in any other AFL team in the comp IMO. Probably throw Kerridge into that group as well. They are not even the present, forget the future. Plus add to that Lang is seriously undone.
That's basically one third of the team right there. I just can't see how we are going to win games with this sort of selection strategy. I know the cupboard is pretty bare, but if that side doesn't set alarm bells ringing in the list management department then god help us all.
I pray I'm wrong [and I often am], and they have down on form, but I don't see enough ability in that team to compete against an AFL team and kick anything like a winning score.
Mullett, O'Shea, Lamb, Graham and Pickett would not get close to a game in any other AFL team in the comp IMO. Probably throw Kerridge into that group as well. They are not even the present, forget the future. Plus add to that Lang is seriously undone.
That's basically one third of the team right there. I just can't see how we are going to win games with this sort of selection strategy. I know the cupboard is pretty bare, but if that side doesn't set alarm bells ringing in the list management department then god help us all.
I pray I'm wrong [and I often am], and they have down on form, but I don't see enough ability in that team to compete against an AFL team and kick anything like a winning score.
Pickett hasnt played all season and is out for another 6.
It's madness playing Weitering in the VFL.
Pickett hasnt played all season and is out for another 6.
Oops - my bad - I meant Jarrod Garlett.
Thats a weak Essendon team IMO and Worsfold is an average coach when it comes to tactics....
They are a poor contested team, its wet, No Daniher, McGrath will be missed too.....they have a few VFL types in and it wont be pretty football....
Blues by 15, Cripps BOG....
Oops - my bad - I meant Jarrod Garlett.
I think that Garlett shows some promise, the rest of the blokes you named are duds and you could probably throw in a few more, it's no fluke that we've barely fired a shot in 15 years.
Thats a weak Essendon team IMO and Worsfold is an average coach when it comes to tactics.....Blues by 15...........
Im with you EB, we'll smash em.
Did the club say the final test for Murphy is on Friday?
To have been any chance would he have to be named an emergency?
Yep, totally agree... :Lang was good early but did tire. Considering the forecast, glad the club resisted bringing Weitering in. None of the 3 inclusions are slow. Serious question marks over Kennedy... another GWS dud for us, SOS? Please, no.
C'mon Baggers , You're smarter than that. Kennedy hasn't been fit since round 1.
When we signed him I watched several GWS replays from last year. He can play and has heaps of improvement in front of him yet.
Bam Bam will be a big plus for us.
C'mon Baggers , You're smarter than that. Kennedy hasn't been fit since round 1.
When we signed him I watched several GWS replays from last year. He can play and has heaps of improvement in front of him yet.
Bam Bam will be a big plus for us.
So far he is more Pop Pop than Bam Bam!
It's going to be won by the team who wants it the most....our blokes should be mighty hungry.
Similar conditions last year when we beat them??
C'mon Baggers , You're smarter than that. Kennedy hasn't been fit since round 1.
When we signed him I watched several GWS replays from last year. He can play and has heaps of improvement in front of him yet.
Bam Bam will be a big plus for us.
I hope you're right S. So far he's been more "Sister Nancy".
Blues by 15, Cripps BOG....
CheatsFC will probably try and use some sacrificial spud to take him out Carrazzo style!
C'mon Baggers , You're smarter than that. Kennedy hasn't been fit since round 1.
When we signed him I watched several GWS replays from last year. He can play and has heaps of improvement in front of him yet.
Bam Bam will be a big plus for us.
I pray you're right.
On balance, its one of the best sides we've had this year IMO.
Not sure if i would've dropped both Phillips and Casboult at the same time. If Kreuzer (not 100%) gets (re)injured....what then?
McKay/Curnowfides from the forward line disrupts that.
Jones/Rowe from the backline, disrupts that.
Personally i'd throw Oshea in as the sacrificial lamb and see if we can find a use for him, at present i cannot.
In any event, we've gone for a smaller side, which will suit the conditions on saturday.
If Kreuzer stays fit, this is a very winnable game. Bombers are not going well and i like the setup of this side. Only maybe the 2nd time all year i've been relatively happy pre-game with team balance.
On balance, its one of the best sides we've had this year IMO.
Not sure if i would've dropped both Phillips and Casboult at the same time. If Kreuzer (not 100%) gets (re)injured....what then?
McKay/Curnowfides from the forward line disrupts that.
Jones/Rowe from the backline, disrupts that.
Personally i'd throw Oshea in as the sacrificial lamb and see if we can find a use for him, at present i cannot.
In any event, we've gone for a smaller side, which will suit the conditions on saturday.
If Kreuzer stays fit, this is a very winnable game. Bombers are not going well and i like the setup of this side. Only maybe the 2nd time all year i've been relatively happy pre-game with team balance.
re: OShea, watched him for Port play on the wing and he was BOG that day, his disposal wasnt such an issue like it is when he plays down back. He can get a lot of the ball and that day Port directed
a lot of ball through him. Its his disposal that got him the boot from Port and he doesnt seem to have fixed it at senior level, not sure he will be anything other than backup, I have heard he is very popular with the playing group and a coach favourite as he trains hard and follows instructions well......
On balance, its one of the best sides we've had this year IMO.
Not sure if i would've dropped both Phillips and Casboult at the same time. If Kreuzer (not 100%) gets (re)injured....what then?
McKay/Curnowfides from the forward line disrupts that.
Jones/Rowe from the backline, disrupts that.
Personally i'd throw Oshea in as the sacrificial lamb and see if we can find a use for him, at present i cannot.
In any event, we've gone for a smaller side, which will suit the conditions on saturday.
If Kreuzer stays fit, this is a very winnable game. Bombers are not going well and i like the setup of this side. Only maybe the 2nd time all year i've been relatively happy pre-game with team balance.
Yep
Just feels like they may have targeted it as winnable and have selected with the intention of going all-out for that win.
Getting a bit sick of Bolts and the other coaches & even players reminding us that they are “learning their craft”, drives me nuts. I see Bolts has said that Bam Bam is “learning his craft” in the twos this week..... >:( :o
Getting a bit sick of Bolts and the other coaches & even players reminding us that they are “learning their craft”, drives me nuts. I see Bolts has said that Bam Bam is “learning his craft” in the twos this week..... >:( :o
They 'learn the craft' in the twos and execute it in the 1's???? .....In a perfect world ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Yep
Just feels like they may have targeted it as winnable and have selected with the intention of going all-out for that win.
I hope you're right Lods. The Bummers on the other hand would take great delight in denying us, especially us.
I think we're a good chance...but once again I'll be happy with effort.
A bad loss to this mob is just unacceptable. >:(
I think we're a good chance...but once again I'll be happy with effort.
A bad loss to this mob is just unacceptable. >:(
Agree. I'm sort of expecting a win.????
I think we're a good chance...but once again I'll be happy with effort.
A bad loss to this mob is just unacceptable. >:(
Essendon and Worsfold are no good, thats the bottom line.....effort was fine vs the Crows but this week requires a win.
Bolton wont find an easier coaching bunny than Worsfold and the Bombers have one of the softest midfields going around..
Cripps should get 40 possies this week, even Nick Graham can get a kick vs this mob....
They have their worst team on the park for the year and are ripe for the taking....we have no excuses....
The key to beating the Bombers is to pressure and harass them. They have a lot of down hill skiers in their team and if left to play their attacking run and gun game can score quickly. Apply pressure and it all falls apart quickly and then on queue angry ant Goddard will start his ranting and finger pointing.
Apply pressure and it all falls apart quickly and then on queue angry ant Goddard will start his ranting and finger pointing.
I want to see Lamb pestering Gobhard all day.
Essendon and Worsfold are no good, thats the bottom line.....effort was fine vs the Crows but this week requires a win.
Bolton wont find an easier coaching bunny than Worsfold and the Bombers have one of the softest midfields going around..
Cripps should get 40 possies this week, even Nick Graham can get a kick vs this mob....
They have their worst team on the park for the year and are ripe for the taking....we have no excuses....
Following that wrap, we are screwed EB????