Please use this thread when the game is done and dusted.
Forecast post —
Same old same old.. competitive the give up 5 goals …..
Hope I’m wrong….
Wow, where did that come from?
Finally!
Vossy and his band of coaches are legends! 8)
(Forever hopeful :) )
Great win built on the back of a dominant centre square crew. Pitto did okay in the ruck, but Cripps, Cerra, Hewett, Kennedy etc were brilliant individually but also in combination. Cerra is a very physical unit which surprises me. He is hard as nails.
We need to sign up TDK for the next 10 years. Durdin is a good get: let's hope he keeps it up.
Cerra … tick
Hewett … tick
I reckon Adam Saad was fantastic
Just wait til Charlie and Harry find their mojo!
What a fantastic victory
Great win built on the back of a dominant centre square crew. Pitto did okay in the ruck, but Cripps, Cerra, Hewett, Kennedy etc were brilliant individually but also in combination. Cerra is a very physical unit which surprises me. He is hard as nails.
We need to sign up TDK for the next 10 years. Durdin is a good get: let's hope he keeps it up.
i started a supercoach team a couple of days ago.
Value for money, i chose Cripps, Cerra, Hewitt and Kennedy as part of my midfield (tentatively had Pittonet too before ditching him).
All 4 of them 'underperformed' last year, but all 4 will be leading our midfield this year.
Tonight...
Kennedy (33 touches) - 122 Points
Cripps (30) - 112 points
Cerra (30) - 110
Hewitt (28) - 91
Add in Sam Walsh to that midfield and you will not find many out there that can top that.
FFS just stay fit!
Welcome back Crippa. Fantastic effort. Seems like forever since we have come back from 3qtr to win one against quality opposition. Do we dare to dream yet?
Said it before, Ill say it again, when you have a coaching group that know what they are doing, have plan A, B and C, magic happens. Every addition made a difference tonight
Cerra
George
Vossy
Sammy Hamil
Ash Hansen
Tim Clarke
Aaron Greaves
Everyone one of them.
Welcome back Crippa. Fantastic effort. Seems like forever since we have come back from 3qtr to win one against quality opposition. Do we dare to dream yet?
Bam Bam and Crippa thrived tonight with that extra grunt around them.
Nearly all the goals were kicked at one end. Not dissimilar to most of last night.
MCG have it's own wind tunnel these days?...lol.
My first client tomorrow is an ardent Richmond supporter....hehe.
Pleased for Doc of course but also pleased for Kennedy who has been maligned and credit to McGovern who was important in terms of rebound and metres gained.Pittonet another unsung hero tonight vs quality opposition.
Midfields win flags and with Walsh to come back in we are looking good..
Cerra certainly made a fine debut for his new club. :)
To blow them away like that was almost surreal
Would someone explain the 50m penalty that was awarded to Doc.
I couldn’t see Edwards move off the mark??
The relief on Crippa's face when the siren went, priceless. Like the weight of the world was lifted off those taped shoulders.
Would someone explain the 50m penalty that was awarded to Doc.
I couldn’t see Edwards move off the mark??
He didn't stand with feet planted
Would someone explain the 50m penalty that was awarded to Doc.
I couldn’t see Edwards move off the mark??
Fair point, he moved very slightly and it was a charity but we will take it..
Forecast post —
Same old same old.. competitive the give up 5 goals …..
Hope I’m wrong….
Big celebration for being wrong coming up🎉
So, what do we think about our defence. McGovern seems to be well worth his spot. Obviously Weitering, Saad, Williams & Docherty are locks too.
But what did we make of Newman & McDonald? I think I heard Jon Ralph say Nic Newman copped a broken nose early, and if that's the case he did pretty well. But he's only 187cm, so does he offer much more than Docherty (185cm) and Williams (183cm) as well as the smaller Saad. He's a bit short to take a 3rd tall, particularly someone like Balta. He'll be competing with Plowman for the role of taking tall or short forwards as they rotate through the forward line. Plowman at 191cm has the height to take taller guys.
McDonald is probably more of a 3rd tall defender rather than a key defender. Obviously, we don't have an obvious FB now Jones committed career suicide. Lewis Young has the height but does he have the body strength to take guys like Lynch?
Strong presser from Vossy, I feel like I can listen to him talk all day long and I'm very pleased for him that things have gotten off on the right foot. There will be bumps along the way Im sure but...
So many stories within the story
Voss - Road to redemption
Doc - Perspective and Love
Bam Bam - The forgotten and often neglected midfield bull
Cezz and Sammy Hamil - Happy to be home
Gov - Rejuvenated and finding your place
I could go on
Great win and perfect start to the season. Team has very few weak links now and once they gel together will be a bloody string outfit for many years. Finally we look to have really arrived!
Cripps was a tank and proved that he was clearly playing injured last year. Kennedy has become the player we all hoped he would be and Cerra and Hewitt slotted in like they have been there for 5 years.
Only 2 goals from Harry Jack Charlie and tdk yet we had 31 scoring shots. One real positive was the players that lifted in the last were many of the guys who had quieter games to that point. Thought Martin, Fisher and even TDK gave us real energy in the last.
Just shows you how much we were lacking a few more genuine mids. Was great to watch a blues team twice peg back a deficent against a good team and run over them. Will do our confidence great.
And docs goal was just the heartwarming stuff. This guy is an inspiration to everyone. Amazing to think he was having chemo late into last year and then plays round one and will probably get votes on Brownlow night. Beyond tough.
Can finally see exactly what we have been building and reckon the afl world would have watched that display and how we did it and thought oh crap there back!
Wow, where did that come from?
Finally!
Vossy and his band of coaches are legends! 8)
THIS ^^^^^^^^
I was already happy with the decision to trade for Cerra but what he showed tonight alone was better than I thought he was capable of. He is a serious footballer and much harder, stronger and more poised than I gave him credit for. His best is going to be extremely good and he seems to be relishing playing with this group.
Hewett will give you 25-30 quality disposals each week and is as tough as teak. He is a massive in.
Durdin was our best forward across 4 quarters. Really think he has a massive upside and he made a real a impact - 2 goals and 6 score involvements. We had 14-1 inside 50 tackles - that would have to be some sort of record for us.
For the first time in years, I didn’t get that sinking feeling when we gave up momentum. What was most remarkable was that q4 fight back. 7 unanswered goals against a quality side at that stage of the game is a real credit to the team around the team.
Gov was super down back. Saad was tenacious.
Our mids look like they’ve been together for years.
Pitto was solid. The baby giraffe is going to be a headache for the oppo when he takes the reigns (and grows into his body).
Our smalls stepped up when the heat was on.
I could go on….
Last thought.
Done it for Doc🙏
Would someone explain the 50m penalty that was awarded to Doc.
I couldn’t see Edwards move off the mark??
I thought it was against Lynch entering the area near the mark behind Edwards. His head dropped straight away after the 50 was awarded
Very good win without being a great win - Bluebaggers sure know how to make noise
That just might be the case. Wasn't the protected area increased to 10 metres either side of the mark. Lynch ran to the left of the mark to pick up a Carlton player running through to the right of the mark. If Lynch came within 10 metres from Docherty or the mark, then it would be a 50. If he'd been following within 2m of that opponent he would have been okay but that wasn't what he was doing.
It's possible, though, it was for the man on the mark doing a bit of a soft shoe shuffle. The feet do need to be stationary.
Would someone explain the 50m penalty that was awarded to Doc.
I couldn’t see Edwards move off the mark??
Lynch ran through the protected area and his opponent wasn't within cooee. Fifty metres every time.
Can’t believe that last quarter 😳
The crowd was heaving, I’ve watched the last quarter since getting home and it doesn’t even show a 10th of her noise Bluebaggers were making. Unbelievable.
Reminiscent of our prelim win against the Tigers all those years ago!!
I cried twice tonight. The first was Docherty’s goal. That moment transcends football. So moving to see when we all know what that bloke has been through. Sam is an inspiration.
Second moment was when I knew we had it in the bag. It was like a giant weight had been lifted. I feel like I can breathe again as a Carlton supporter.
Never been prouder of these boys!
I cried twice tonight. The first was Docherty’s goal. That moment transcends football. So moving to see when we all know what that bloke has been through. Sam is an inspiration.
Second moment was when I knew we had it in the bag. It was like a giant weight had been lifted. I feel like I can breathe again as a Carlton supporter.
Never been prouder of these boys!
Where the hell have you been?
Been a while.
Best bit was watching Riewoldt hardly getting a touch. I'm sick of that bloke bobbing up and kicking 3 or 4. Good job by Weiters and co.
The tigers looked a lot like last year. They get their game going and look unbeatable again but don't seem to be able to maintain the rage when they get some stiff resistance. Good sign for us that we pushed through instead of being pushed over.
Perhaps my favourite bit was in the presser and the tone Vossy took when he said we wanted more than one win. I need to watch it again to recall exactly what he said but i know i liked it. Little bit of killer is what we've needed for a long time.
Discipline. Intensity. Persistence. Team.
When was the last time a quality opponent had their foot on our throat (4gls down late in the game) and we removed the foot and jammed it up their collective clackers?
Discipline. Intensity. Persistence. Team.
When was the last time a quality opponent had their foot on our throat (4gls down late in the game) and we removed the foot and jammed it up their collective clackers?
^ this.
Yes I was still nervous with 5.30 to go but it felt different. It felt good! It felt like we weren’t reliant wholly on Cripps to drag us over the line.
Finally the middle have some strength.
Dare I sayare we set now - back sorted a few years ago, forwards set more recently bar the small forward question which Durdin seems to have come in and made a mark already… and now our midfield!?
Well done recruiters.
Love the ball in Saad’s hands, guy does not stop. McG seems reinvigorated and less flying for nothing. A few others needing to do more but came good at the right time.
Was so proud last night. It’s been a long haul to finally break that crapty first round losing streak 👏🏽
^ this.
Yes I was still nervous with 5.30 to go but it felt different. It felt good! It felt like we weren’t reliant wholly on Cripps to drag us over the line.
Finally the middle have some strength.
Dare I sayare we set now - back sorted a few years ago, forwards set more recently bar the small forward question which Durdin seems to have come in and made a mark already… and now our midfield!?
Well done recruiters.
Love the ball in Saad’s hands, guy does not stop. McG seems reinvigorated and less flying for nothing. A few others needing to do more but came good at the right time.
Was so proud last night. It’s been a long haul to finally break that crapty first round losing streak 👏🏽
Being Carlton, we were all nervous, even when 4 goals up with 60 seconds to go...haha.
I can't remember a more dominant contested midfield win than last night, we only had 4 mids rotating through the centre bounces for the whole night and between them they had 121 possessions, 48 contested, 26 clearances and 6 goals. The way they played together was really something to watch, seemed to know where each other was, or supposed to be, no panicked disposals, held on to the ball and found the right outlet. Huge tick for the coaches.
I know it's only round 1 but signs are there.
So many commentators highlighting our two new mids... but my eyes saw three new mids, the third being M. Kennedy.
And I hope Pitto gets some kudos - deserved.
Loved seeing the players connecting with supporters after the game, though I did hope that all players gave their hands a collective sanitizing wash after this.
Saad’s ability to kick across his body and hit a target 40-50 metres away is uncanny.
Bruce Andrew would be horrified at Saad’s technique but would have to admit that it’s effective.
Saad’s pass to Cripps for a goal was a lucky shank ... but we’ll happily take it.
I wasn’t that keen on adding Saad to our list but he has become a crucial piece of the puzzle.
Saad’s ability to kick across his body and hit a target 40-50 metres away is uncanny.
Bruce Andrew would be horrified at Saad’s technique but would have to admit that it’s effective.
Saad’s pass to Cripps for a goal was a lucky shank ... but we’ll happily take it.
I wasn’t that keen on adding Saad to our list but he has become a crucial piece of the puzzle.
He just has the composure and work rate which we needed. I love watching gallop away with ball in hand, it’s nice to start feeling confident in a players ability consistently rather than watch behind your hands.
Did we miss Jones last night?
He just has the composure and work rate which we needed. I love watching gallop away with ball in hand, it’s nice to start feeling confident in a players ability consistently rather than watch behind your hands.
Did we miss Jones last night?
Not with the Govinator seeing the footy like a beach ball. Couple of his disposals were utterly sublime.
So many commentators highlighting our two new mids... but my eyes saw three new mids, the third being M. Kennedy.
And I hope Pitto gets some kudos - deserved.
Kennedy has really come of age and fulfilled all expectations last night.
He just has the composure and work rate which we needed. I love watching gallop away with ball in hand, it’s nice to start feeling confident in a players ability consistently rather than watch behind your hands.
Did we miss Jones last night?
I had to laugh in the post match interview... Docherty asked about McGovern and talking about high risk, high reward type stuff. He said they just had to be patient and be prepared to mop up when it didn't go MM's way. I thought that they could have been talking about Jones.
Great win, especially the ultra-dominant last quarter where we did not lose one centre clearance. Amazing, the game is so much easier when it starts in your half of the ground.
Interestingly, Richmond supporters around me were leaving long before I was sure we were home. I think the Tiger goose is cooked.
I will just mention two things
(1) We need some leg speed in the back half. When Bolton had the ball, we looked like statues. Stocker?
(2) Too many times, Harry, TDK and Charlie were flying for the same mark. We need Ash Hansen to get some better co-operation happening. All three of them are good enough below their knees to take turns flying and have at least one at ground level. Of course, improved delivery into the F50 would help.
Doesn't it just make the weekend that much sweeter when you already have a win under your belt?
Best bit was watching Riewoldt hardly getting a touch. I'm sick of that bloke bobbing up and kicking 3 or 4. Good job by Weiters and co.
The tigers looked a lot like last year. They get their game going and look unbeatable again but don't seem to be able to maintain the rage when they get some stiff resistance. Good sign for us that we pushed through instead of being pushed over.
Perhaps my favourite bit was in the presser and the tone Vossy took when he said we wanted more than one win. I need to watch it again to recall exactly what he said but i know i liked it. Little bit of killer is what we've needed for a long time.
Reiwoldt broke his thumb, they also lost Prestia who I think had 10 possies in the 1st quarter when they were firing so things probably fell into place for us but thats the luck of the game and its usually us on the receiving end of misfortune so we deserve a bit of luck.
Bruce Andrew would be horrified at Saad’s technique but would have to admit that it’s effective.
Haha!! Might need some form of explanation for our 'younger contributors'!!
I thought that they could have been talking about Jones.
Yes, I always get them confused, hard to tell them apart really! :o
I think we took and withstood the blitzkrieg tactics of Richmond while keeping in touch for about 3 quarters, until their players eventually ran out of steam. We then could play the remainder of the game on our terms and put them away. I thought it was a very professional performance and one that should build a lot of confidence for us.
Haha!! Might need some form of explanation for our 'younger contributors'!!
I couldn't find any footage of Bruce demonstrating the art of kicking so this will have to do:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDmCHD0mpo0
Watching the last qtr again, as you do. The domination at the stoppages and pressure around the contest was something I haven't seen in years. Richmond were just physically blown away.
Big roar during that last qtr when Docherty had the ball near Bay 13. Thought it was Scotty Boland again...lol
Watching the last qtr again, as you do. The domination at the stoppages and pressure around the contest was something I haven't seen in years. Richmond were just physically blown away.
Big roar during that last qtr when Docherty had the ball near Bay 13. Thought it was Scotty Boland again...lol
Hardwick said they couldnt handle the bigger bodies of Cripps and Kennedy in particular, be an interesting challenge this week with the Dogs who have the equipment to match our size in the middle...
Hardwick said they couldnt handle the bigger bodies of Cripps and Kennedy in particular, be an interesting challenge this week with the Dogs who have the equipment to match our size in the middle...
They do but the Dogs are one side we have given fits too the last few years. We seem to match up well. Even last year, while we were run over, we were 27 pts ahead 2 minutes before 3 qtr time.
Is anyone able to explain to me how Lynch and Riewoldt can dead in front of a field umpire blatantly double handed push opponents directly in the back and not be penalised?
Is anyone able to explain to me how Lynch and Riewoldt can dead in front of a field umpire blatantly double handed push opponents directly in the back and not be penalised?
TBH I think the Tigers have had a very very good run of playing dirty and getting away with it with their frenetic ball use - it was nice to see them getting pinged for things. Yes a few were missed but they used to get away with all of those 50/50’s.
TBH I think the Tigers have had a very very good run of playing dirty and getting away with it with their frenetic ball use - it was nice to see them getting pinged for things. Yes a few were missed but they used to get away with all of those 50/50’s.
I fully understand when it's those 50/50s in the grind, but when it's one on one in clear space with no opponents in proximity and a clear unhindered side on view to the field umpire it's very very hard to understand.
To me these are the incidents that cause the majority of umpire abuse issues, not the 50/50s in traffic that need slow motion analysis to be visible.
Who else had a little 'dust in the eyes' when Doc slotted his goal?
Best win since the last time we beat them.
Best win since the last time we beat them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv8mUGDt20w
Is anyone able to explain to me how Lynch and Riewoldt can dead in front of a field umpire blatantly double handed push opponents directly in the back and not be penalised?
Another example occurred in Q4 and is shown with 9:14 remaining on the clock and a replay at 8.34 on the clock. When the Tigers were kicking out after a behind, LOB took the front position against Aarts outside 50 and the ball was kicked on top of his head. Aarts is clearly shown pushing LOB out of the contest with 2 hands to his lower back. He managed to shove him into the path of the Gov who was leaping up to take the mark. In effect, Aarts tunnelled Gov via LOB. That led to Gov hobbling off while Aarts took the ball off hands and ran down the ground with it.
It was just so obvious and yet the umpire didn't have a problem with it. I was incensed when I saw it live as I leapt to the conclusion that Aarts knew Gov was coming up and deliberately tunnelled him. But there was no evidence of Aarts looking around to see Gov coming. I guess he expected it at some level as LOB was clearly blocking rather than trying to take the mark and perhaps the umpire felt he wasn't going to reward the block.
Not sure why they changed the hands in the back rule.
Would someone explain the 50m penalty that was awarded to Doc.
I couldn’t see Edwards move off the mark??
I think Lynch ran through the protected zone on the side
1st Quarter, 4 goals to one Richmond's way. 2nd Quarter, 4 Goals to none our way. 3rd Quarter, 6 goals to 2 Richmond's way. Final quarter, 7 goals to 1 our way. I think there was a breeze favouring one end. If you don't kick it to your team mates, there can be no game plan. The kicking and ball handling in the first quarter was what we have been use to in the past. However, other than a little period in the third quarter, I felt our field kicking was generally pretty good. Once again, kicking into the swirling breeze may have something to do with it. I thought we could win by between four and six goals. We had 31 to 21 scoring shots, which is basically 50% more, and won by 3 goals 7, so we could have won by more. Despite hitting the post five times, I thought our goal kicking was pretty good. If you don't win the ball in the contest, and the other team doesn't gift you possessions through turnovers, no matter how slick you are on the outside, you are not going to win games. Richmond doesn't have enough ball winners and that Martin has been covering up this weakness for years.
I would have Marchbank, Stocker, Walsh and Cuningham in the side when fit. So on the evidence of one game, Newman, McDonald, Owies and O'Brien would be in the firing line though I thought they all played their role. Hopefully it is going to be very competitive for spots this year.
Is anyone able to explain to me how Lynch and Riewoldt can dead in front of a field umpire blatantly double handed push opponents directly in the back and not be penalised?
The Lynch non-decision was possibly the most blatant miss of the night.
One of the more noticeable things that I observed was the number of times that our players were able to successfully lay a tackle on 'Don't argue' Martin - committing multiple players to the tackle was good to see.
Late to the party again so apologies if I cover points already raised.
On the strength of the last two games (Melbourne practice game and tonight), Cripps looks back to his best. Looks to have slimmed down a bit but not lost any power...he was a beast last night and gave us first possession outta the middle so many times. And then had Cerra and Hewett in there to feed it out to....not that they weren't getting it themselves either.
Have always maintained that Kennedy was unfairly dealt with at selection over the last couple of years given the others that were getting games before him. Won his spot back late last year and, like Cripps, his two games this year have been sublime. And has the added advantage of being able to go forward and take a strong mark and is usually a pretty reliable set shot.
Said it before too but Pittonet is under-rated. Nankervis is not unlike him in his style so that might've helped a bit but he cracks in non-stop and offers a contest...not afraid to put his body into the contest. TDK is a good foil being able to drift forward but then jump over opponents in the middle. Another 40 odd games into him and he'll be cherry ripe.
To be able to kick a winning score and not have any real input from Harry or Charlie was a huge upside. Must've hit the post 3 or 4 times too.
Silvagni still a huge player for us with his 2nd and 3rd efforts when the ball is on the ground are amazing. Could've easily ended up with 3 or 4 goals last night.
Was Docherty playing back or wing....or a bit of both? I reckon he can play that role....drift up the ground as he reads it well and is generally a good user of the footy.
I think McDonald/McGovern are capable of bing a good foil for Weitering. They'll take some time to gel but McGovern's kicking is a feature. SPeaking of kicking being a feature, how good is Adam Saad....his kicking is elite and it's like having two blokes out there....his run and carry is priceless and reckon we'll see an even better season from him this year and I'm more than happy to have given up the pick to get him.
Cerra/Hewett....enough said but reckon the pundits will be talking about Hewett come season's end when talking about "recruit of the year". Tough and hard at it, can run with an opponent but can get it himself and uses it pretty well.
Most pleasing thing....4 points obviously....but in season's past, we would've coughed up those 3 goal bursts and let it become a 4-5-6 goal burst and never recovered. Last night that had a Voss stamp all over it....never gave up, didn't deviate from the plan and players executed it. Early in the first it was a bit like last year...miskicks, sloppy handballs, dropped marks etc but reckon he would've just spoken to them at 1/4 time, not screamed and ranted...just stick to the game plan. We seemed to be able to play fast and move it quickly but then adjust the tempo and get it onto our terms and slow it down when needed.
One game doesn't make the season but most pundits had Richmond jumping back up the table this year. THey lost Prestia but we were without Walsh....and absolutely smashed them out of the middle and in the contested ball.
Tough one this week against Bulldogs who'll be savage...but we match up well against them, have the midfield to go with them more now and reckon we've got more up forward than them.
One of the more noticeable things that I observed was the number of times that our players were able to successfully lay a tackle on 'Don't argue' Martin - committing multiple players to the tackle was good to see.
Seeing Cerra give Dusty some of his own medicine was also mighty satisfying! ;D
TBH I think the Tigers have had a very very good run of playing dirty and getting away with it with their frenetic ball use - it was nice to see them getting pinged for things. Yes a few were missed but they used to get away with all of those 50/50’s.
Indeed. They have pushed the boundary for a long time, nor have they been alone. Having them penalized for it was about time. To see they way they donated 50 me penalties also shows how stupid they can be.
I think we punctured a few egos last night. I would very much like to see more of it.
I think Lynch ran through the protected zone on the side
Indeed. Just trotted along, nowhere near his opponent, ignoring the rule like it didn't apply to him. Gross stupidity. Got exactly what it deserved.
On the strength of the last two games (Melbourne practice game and tonight), Cripps looks back to his best. Looks to have slimmed down a bit but not lost any power...he was a beast last night and gave us first possession outta the middle so many times. And then had Cerra and Hewett in there to feed it out to....not that they weren't getting it themselves either.
He's playing fully fit for the first time in a long time. It makes a difference. He has still has work to do on his kicking.
Have always maintained that Kennedy was unfairly dealt with at selection over the last couple of years given the others that were getting games before him. Won his spot back late last year and, like Cripps, his two games this year have been sublime. And has the added advantage of being able to go forward and take a strong mark and is usually a pretty reliable set shot.
Matthew has really put his best foot forward from the time he got back into our side in the second half of last season. It could be argued that he was a little unlucky earlier, but if this is what he gets for going through some bad times, I'm willing to live with it. His form at the moment is showing why we were interested. His work rate has been excellent.
Said it before too but Pittonet is under-rated. Nankervis is not unlike him in his style so that might've helped a bit but he cracks in non-stop and offers a contest...not afraid to put his body into the contest. TDK is a good foil being able to drift forward but then jump over opponents in the middle. Another 40 odd games into him and he'll be cherry ripe.
Pitto was workmanlike against Gawn, but last night he played one of his better games. Really took the ruck away from Richmond, which hasn't happened for a long time. Kreuzer used to do it in patches, and then get hurt. But nobody has consistently outdone the Richmond rucks for a long time. It was a great effort. May it continue for a long time.
As for Tom de Koning, his early ruck work was not impressive: he tried to out-body his opponents and generally failed. In the last quarter he started using his leap. We got clearances, two of them from Tom himself. It really hurt Richmond, which was the best part. You could see the confidence coming into him. More please!
Silvagni still a huge player for us with his 2nd and 3rd efforts when the ball is on the ground are amazing. Could've easily ended up with 3 or 4 goals last night.
Jack hit the post twice himself. He didn't have a big game and he got his hands to balls he didn't hold, but when it comes to heart ... Honestly, he deserved 4 goals.
I think McDonald/McGovern are capable of being a good foil for Weitering. They'll take some time to gel but McGovern's kicking is a feature. Speaking of kicking being a feature, how good is Adam Saad....his kicking is elite and it's like having two blokes out there....his run and carry is priceless and reckon we'll see an even better season from him this year and I'm more than happy to have given up the pick to get him.
McGovern was so unlucky to hit the post like he did. He was going to punish Richmond when we needed a lift. Saad was slow early, but the longer the match wore on, the better he became. Like you, I love his kicking, no matter how strange it may look.
Who else had a little 'dust in the eyes' when Doc slotted his goal?
Not me.
I had streams on my cheeks😭
Seeing Cerra give Dusty some of his own medicine was also mighty satisfying! ;D
Indeed it was.
I’ll admit I wasn’t thrilled with the Cerra trade. I saw him as somewhat vanilla with average disposal. That’s very different from what he’s shown so far. He’s clean, composed, and confident.
Great recruiting 👏
For the most part, the midfield looked like they’d played together for years. Add Walsh and natural progression, and we’re going to be very competitive. The edge might be one Michael Voss.
Early days but the difference to previous years is quite staggering.
Go Blues
Montangna said our midfield has gone from Batman and Robin (Cripps and Walsh) to The Avengers.
Montangna said our midfield has gone from Batman and Robin (Cripps and Walsh) to The Avengers.
...and some folk in the media have picked up on 'The Avengers' monica for our midfield and run with it - it may stick. (I had to Google The Avengers... not a fan of superhero movies).
...and some folk in the media have picked up on 'The Avengers' monica for our midfield and run with it - it may stick. (I had to Google The Avengers... not a fan of superhero movies).
I'd rather them be labelled as The Boys!
Early days but the difference to previous years is quite staggering.
Go Blues
Yep exactly what I think. This list has very little holes and a ton of upside. It’s taken longer then I would have liked but I don’t think I’m exaggerating when I say there is no reason this list won’t be going deep in September for at least the next 5 years. We have had a lot of pain but those days are gone now.
Very good start to a season. Lots of positive in this side. I will be very interested to see what Voss has learned since he had his first exposure to coaching a club as the main man.
I can't remember a more dominant contested midfield win than last night, we only had 4 mids rotating through the centre bounces for the whole night and between them they had 121 possessions, 48 contested, 26 clearances and 6 goals. The way they played together was really something to watch, seemed to know where each other was, or supposed to be, no panicked disposals, held on to the ball and found the right outlet. Huge tick for the coaches.
I know it's only round 1 but signs are there.
I was trying to recall if i had seen anyone else at a centre-bounce, other than the big4.... obviously not. A long time since we have done that - i wonder how many other teams do that?? with Kennedy playing a reasonably reduced time on ground - that means the other 3 must have been in the middle for a looong time...
According to AFL, Kennedy was 73% on ground and Hewitt 75%, Cripps and Cerra both 83%. If all 22 players had an even amount of time on the ground, it would round up to 82%.
The spirit not to give up, the intensity seemed to be higher and for longer. Cripps 3 goals straight. There were many highlights and great things to see, as well as improvement to come.
Well done Blues & the Doc.
I was trying to recall if i had seen anyone else at a centre-bounce, other than the big4.... obviously not. A long time since we have done that - i wonder how many other teams do that?? with Kennedy playing a reasonably reduced time on ground - that means the other 3 must have been in the middle for a looong time...
Obviously SoJ and De Koning rucked, I'm sure I saw others briefly in the midfield, if I recall there was also one moment when both Cerra and Hewett were on the bench together.
Did I see Durdin and Martin get a rotation in there at one stage? It can be hard to recall what was a centre bounce and what was a regular stoppage.
According to AFL, Kennedy was 73% on ground and Hewitt 75%, Cripps and Cerra both 83%. If all 22 players had an even amount of time on the ground, it would round up to 82%.
The spirit not to give up, the intensity seemed to be higher and for longer. Cripps 3 goals straight. There were many highlights and great things to see, as well as improvement to come.
Well done Blues & the Doc.
If all 4 of our boys spent all their TOG in the middle, they'd get 75% game time each. Clearly they spent a little bit of time on the ground outside the middle as well.
But based of that, it would appear that nobody else was in the middle.
At least at centre bounces, the only centre clearances are credited to those 4 (Cripps 5, Hewitt 2, Kennedy 1, Cerra 1) and our 2 rucks (Pittonet 3, TDK 2).
The best thing about all of this is, keeping in mind we have Walsh coming back too) that we don't need a team full of midfielders.
We can actually have dedicated half-forwards (Martin, Fisher, Silvagni etc) and dedicated half backs (Docherty, Saad, Williams)
and it means we can have genuine outside runners on the wings (Walsh, LOB, Setterfield?)
All in all, it very much reminds me of the Lions and how they went about it.
All this talk about midfield depth over the past 2 decades and seemingly its all out the window now.
Interesting on Thursday night a lot of our team came from another club.
AFL Coaches votes
Carlton v Richmond
10 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
8 Matthew Kennedy (CARL)
6 Adam Cerra (CARL)
4 George Hewett (CARL)
1 Sam Docherty (CARL)
1 Marc Pittonet (CARL)
AFL Coaches votes
Carlton v Richmond
10 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
8 Matthew Kennedy (CARL)
6 Adam Cerra (CARL)
4 George Hewett (CARL)
1 Sam Docherty (CARL)
1 Marc Pittonet (CARL)
You reckon we won the game from the midfield?
You reckon we won the game from the midfield?
Looks like the coaches agreed on value down to the 1 votes too
Obviously SoJ and De Koning rucked, I'm sure I saw others briefly in the midfield, if I recall there was also one moment when both Cerra and Hewett were on the bench together.
Did I see Durdin and Martin get a rotation in there at one stage? It can be hard to recall what was a centre bounce and what was a regular stoppage.
Silvagni took a boundary throw in in the forward line. Pittonet took most of the centre bounces but De Koning took several in the last quarter. I don't believe that anyone but Cerra, Kennedy, Cripps and Hewett started in the square for a centre bounce.
It will be interesting to see the adjustments when Walsh comes back :-\
Silvagni took a boundary throw in in the forward line. Pittonet took most of the centre bounces but De Koning took several in the last quarter. I don't believe that anyone but Cerra, Kennedy, Cripps and Hewett started in the square for a centre bounce.
It will be interesting to see the adjustments when Walsh comes back :-\
Jon Ralph: “Carlton isn’t spinning the magnets in the middle. Only 4 mids attended centre bounces alongside the rucks. Hewett, Cripps & Kennedy attended 22 centre-bounces, Cerra 21.”
I may have missed it but did anyone else note the best part of the match? Which one you say? The seconds after the final siren, when we saw thousands of Blues supporters all together leap to their feet. arms in the air, in joyous celebration, not seen since we won a premiership!
In addition to Chalky's post, for those that were there, what was the crowd noise like when we kicked the 5 goals in 7 mins in the last?
In addition to Chalky's post, for those that were there, what was the crowd noise like when we kicked the 5 goals in 7 mins in the last?
I didn't go, my mate did and he rang me after the game just to tell me how loud the crowd got when:
1. Doc kick his goal
2. With every goal we kicked in the last, the crowd got louder and louder, he can't remember a noise like it and we have been going to watch Carlton live since the late 70s.
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/1083396/heroes-of-72-gather-on-a-grand-night-for-carlton
Seems the old boys celebrated the 72 flag on Thursday night at the MCG. Warmed the cockles of my heart to see Waitey back in the fold where he belongs.
Smashed the crap out of them ... what a game that was and I loved every moment. :))
I'd just turned 18
At least at centre bounces, the only centre clearances are credited to those 4 (Cripps 5, Hewitt 2, Kennedy 1, Cerra 1) and our 2 rucks (Pittonet 3, TDK 2).
The best thing about all of this is, keeping in mind we have Walsh coming back too) that we don't need a team full of midfielders.
We can actually have dedicated half-forwards (Martin, Fisher, Silvagni etc) and dedicated half backs (Docherty, Saad, Williams)
and it means we can have genuine outside runners on the wings (Walsh, LOB, Setterfield?)
Yep was only talking Centre bounces, sure some others were running on the ball at different stages. I agree with with the other part of your post too Krud, was good to see no spare mids running around to try and be forwards, (apart from maybe Fish), everyone seemed to have a defined role.
On a lighter note, almost the best part of the game was watching the biggest whingers to umpires in the comp trying to hold their tongues due to the new dissent rule. Lynch, Riewoldt and co were almost exploding...
In addition to Chalky's post, for those that were there, what was the crowd noise like when we kicked the 5 goals in 7 mins in the last?
I was there and it was a bit surreal to be honest. The noise wasn't deafening but it certainly reached a crescendo as the quarter went on. I myself kept a lid on it and even when there was 5 min to go and we were 20 odd up I wasn't sure it was in the bag. Been bitten too many times. When the siren went the relief was palpable.
I was there and it was a bit surreal to be honest. The noise wasn't deafening but it certainly reached a crescendo as the quarter went on. I myself kept a lid on it and even when there was 5 min to go and we were 20 odd up I wasn't sure it was in the bag. Been bitten too many times. When the siren went the relief was palpable.
We were jumping around like maniacs after it was evident we were on a roll. BUT, I was still thinking, in the back of my mind “are we sure they won’t hit back”. I reckon I relaxed and enjoyed it, and the crowd REALLY got into it, once the Tigs fans started streaming out (about half way thru the last quarter - when, to be honest, I didn’t think it was completely over), then it got really loud and really enjoyable!!
We were jumping around like maniacs
Oh, that reminds me. How GREAT it is to be able to stand again at the footy ;D Happy days!
Oh, that reminds me. How GREAT it is to be able to stand again at the footy ;D Happy days!
Just being there again was amazing. I reckon I spent 80% of the first Q sounding like a kid at Xmas - “how good is this?” “Look at the crowd” “I love the G”
I was there and it was a bit surreal to be honest. The noise wasn't deafening but it certainly reached a crescendo as the quarter went on. I myself kept a lid on it and even when there was 5 min to go and we were 20 odd up I wasn't sure it was in the bag. Been bitten too many times. When the siren went the relief was palpable.
There were two points in the match when the Carlton crowd noise hit a level I had not experienced in years - obviously, one was Docherty's goal, but closely matched by Fisher's goal to put us 8 points up.
The loudest roars often come when a team kicks a second goal straight out of the middle while the crowd is still musing over the goal 15 seconds earlier.
So good to hear the wonderful stories from Baggers at the game. I have no idea how some people kept their cool during our “avalanche”. I most certainly would have been jumping around like a maniac.
Go Blues