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Princes Park => Robert Heatley Stand => Topic started by: kruddler on November 25, 2023, 12:23:04 pm

Title: Pick your best 22 - 2023 Final analysis
Post by: kruddler on November 25, 2023, 12:23:04 pm
OK, so everything you needed to know about our 'best 22' threads that we were all voting in throughout the year, all 7 of them, are presented below.

#Player80%+20-80<20%AVG%P1P2P3P4P5P6P7
1Jack Silvagni43077.3% 97%93.4%93.4%61.6%100%33.4%62.5%
2Paddy Dow01611.1% 3.1%6.7%6.7%15.4%0%40%6.3%
3Jesse Motlop52079.4% 81.9%100%46.7%84.7%68.8%86.7%87.5%
4Lochie O'Brien02513.1% 57.6%26.7%0%7.7%0%0%0%
5Adam Cerra70099.1% 100%100%100%100%100%100%93.8%
6*Zac Williams **LTI0070% 0%0%0%0%0%0%0%
7Matt Kennedy43079.6% 97%93.4%93.4%77%93.8%46.7%56.3%
8Lachie Fogarty03419.1% 0%0%0%0%56.3%40%37.5%
9Patrick Cripps700100% 100%100%100%100%100%100%100%
10Harry McKay70099.1% 100%100%100%100%100%100%93.8%
11Mitch McGovern61091.2% 97%93.4%93.4%61.6%100%93.4%100%
12Tom De Koning61088.1% 91%93.4%46.7%92.4%93.8%100%100%
13Blake Acres70096.4% 97%100%93.4%84.7%100%100%100%
14Oliver Hollands24156.9% 6.1%53.4%93.4%84.7%25%73.4%62.5%
15Sam Docherty70099.1% 100%100%100%100%93.8%100%100%
16Jack Carroll0070.4% 3.1%0%0%0%0%0%0%
17Brodie Kemp32263.3% 12.2%6.7%66.7%77%100%93.4%87.5%
18Sam Walsh70097.1% 100%80%100%100%100%100%100%
19Corey Durdin13333.7% 60.7%60%80%23.1%6.3%0%6.3%
20Lachie Plowman0073.2% 9.1%13.4%0%0%0%0%0%
21Jack Martin51169.4% 81.9%80%20%23.1%81.3%100%100%
22Caleb Marchbank03423.6% 54.6%33.4%0%7.7%0%13.4%56.3%
23Jacob Weitering700100% 100%100%100%100%100%100%100%
24Nick Newman61089.5% 54.6%93.4%100%84.7%100%100%93.8%
25Zac Fisher22340.5% 91%86.7%53.4%46.2%0%6.7%0%
26Lochie Cowan03413% 0%33.4%26.7%30.8%0%0%0%
27Marc Pittonet52078.6% 100%100%93.4%84.7%37.5%53.4%81.3%
28David Cuningham13336.6% 15.2%13.4%0%30.8%93.8%53.4%50%
29George Hewitt70094.4% 100%100%100%92.4%87.5%100%81.3%
30Charlie Curnow700100% 100%100%100%100%100%100%100%
31Harry Lemmey0070% 0%0%0%0%0%0%0%
32Jaxon Binns0072.2% 0%0%0%15.4%0%0%0%
33Lewis Young31351.2% 97%100%93.4%61.6%0%6.7%0%
34*Sam Philp **LTI0070% 0%0%0%0%0%0%0%
35Ed Curnow0167.5% 6.1%0%40%0%0%6.7%0%
36Josh Honey0071.4% 3.1%6.7%0%0%0%0%0%
37Jordan Boyd03415.8% 9.1%0%0%38.5%31.3%6.7%25%
38Sam Durdin0070% 0%0%0%0%0%0%0%
39Alex Cincotta14244.2% 0%13.4%66.7%38.5%87.5%60%43.8%
40Hudson O'Keefe0070% 0%0%0%0%0%0%0%
41Dom Akuei0070% 0%0%0%0%0%0%0%
42Adam Saad70097.5% 97%100%100%92.4%100%93.4%100%
4300070% 0%0%0%0%0%0%0%
44Matt Owies23246.7% 36.4%6.7%0%84.7%56.3%93.4%50%
45Alex Mirkov0070% 0%0%0%0%0%0%0%
46Matt Cottrell33159.1% 33.4%20%26.7%84.7%75%80%93.8%
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - 2023 Final analysis
Post by: kruddler on November 25, 2023, 12:23:43 pm
I've arbitrarily chosen 3 colours to identify which category players fit into at the time. The first 3 columns are how many times a player was voted in that particular category over the year.
80% and above are the regulars who got voted into the best 22 by 80% or more of the voters.
20-80% are the fringe players who received a fair amount of votes, but were not in most teams
<20% are the outliers who almost everyone left out of their side.

The last 7 columns are each individual vote Part 1, part 2 etc throughout the year.

The middle column is their average for year.


For completions sake...
Part 1 = Before pre-season
Part 2 = After pre-season games
Part 3 = After 7 rounds
Part 4 = Halfway point
Part 5 = 6 games to go
Part 6 = Pre-finals bye
Part 7 = End of season
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - 2023 Final analysis
Post by: kruddler on November 25, 2023, 12:38:56 pm
Overall, the categories broke down to this, relatively even split.

13 in the top, 80%+ regulars category...
Cerra
Cripps
McKay
McGovern
De Koning
Acres
Docherty
Walsh
Weitering
Newman
Hewitt
C. Curnow
Saad

15 in the fringe players....
Silvagni
Motlop
Kennedy
Hollands
Kemp
C. Durdin
Martin
Marchbank
Fisher
Pittonet
Cuningham
Young
Cincotta
Owies
Cottrell

17 in the Bottom category....(6 are no longer with)
Dow
Obrien
*Williams
Fogarty
Carroll
Plowman
Cowan
Lemmey
Binns
*Philp
E. Curnow
Honey
Boyd
S. Durdin
Okeefe
Akuei
Mirkov
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - 2023 Final analysis
Post by: Lods on November 25, 2023, 12:39:34 pm
Cottrell and Young are two stand-out examples  of why we shouldn't dwell in the moment too much....there are others.
A block of good games can turn opinions on their heads.
Today's rooster is tomorrow's feather duster. ;)  :D
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - 2023 Final analysis
Post by: kruddler on November 25, 2023, 12:46:48 pm
Quote from: Lods – on
Cottrell and Young are two stand-out examples  of why we shouldn't dwell in the moment too much....there are others.
A block of good games can turn opinions on their heads.
Today's rooster is tomorrow's feather duster. ;)  :D
Yep, also shows how you get forgotten about when you get injured.
Jack Silvagnis trend follows his fitness throughout the year. Out of mind out of sight.
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - 2023 Final analysis
Post by: LP on November 25, 2023, 02:43:24 pm
It tells us something, fans actually voted against Walsh, Cerra, McKay, Doc and Saad! :o
Title: Re: Pick your best 22 - 2023 Final analysis
Post by: kruddler on November 25, 2023, 03:09:50 pm
Quote from: LP – on
It tells us something, fans actually voted against Walsh, Cerra, McKay, Doc and Saad! :o
I think in most of those cases people were voting based on who was fit (despite me requesting they assume everyone is full fitness), which also backs up the silvagni trend and a couple others.

Although i know EB voted against McKay in the last vote (and i wanted to but didn't) despite him being fit.
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