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Title: VFL Rd 9 2024 Carlton vs Gold Coast at Carlton
Post by: crashlander on May 23, 2024, 09:04:57 pm
We went up one spot even though we lost last week.  >:D
This week we play Gold Coast who are a shadow of what they were last year. However, they should have a LOT more talent on the park than we can manage.

The game is at Carlton on Saturday morning at 10:25.

I really hope Motlop plays: if he does OK, then he'll be in the 1's next week replacing Fantasia.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9 2024 Carlton vs Gold Coast at Carlton
Post by: crashlander on May 24, 2024, 07:52:27 pm
Line-up finally available:

B:  S. Durdin  M. Lewis  Lewis Young
HB:  B. Wilson  D. Akuei  Lachie Young
C:  A. Moir  J. Binns  Z. Maher
HF:  N. Cahill  R. Monahan  J. Motlop
F:  L. McMahon  H. Lemmey  C. Durdin
R:  A. Mirkov  L. Goonan  H. Ramshaw
Int:  L. Prout  W. White  L. Nelson  A. Stevens  D. Harvey 

Em:  J. Lefroy  B. Lambert  F. Riley  H. Gill  T. Phillips  J. Gedi  K. Ferronato

Tom Phillips dropped for the 2nd time. Not providing the leadership our kids badly need.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9 2024 Carlton vs Gold Coast at Carlton
Post by: Baggers on May 25, 2024, 10:49:47 am
Pretty embarrassing so far.

23mins first qtr.
Blues: 0.1
GC:     6.3

Oh dear.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9 2024 Carlton vs Gold Coast at Carlton
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 25, 2024, 10:52:26 am
Liam McMahon maybe playing for a AFL rookie spot...
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9 2024 Carlton vs Gold Coast at Carlton
Post by: Lods on May 25, 2024, 10:55:53 am
The VFL
Not going well :(

Down by 44 now
Quarter time
46-2
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9 2024 Carlton vs Gold Coast at Carlton
Post by: Baggers on May 25, 2024, 10:58:04 am
Qtr time.

Blues: 0.2
GCS:   7.4
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9 2024 Carlton vs Gold Coast at Carlton
Post by: Baggers on May 25, 2024, 11:01:07 am
Saw something in that qtr you never want to see... Dom A is out marked at FF, his opponent turns and runs into goal and Dom A immediately gave up the chase - just turned and walked away. Yes, it was pretty inevitable (the goal) but to turn and walk away before his opponent had kicked the ball... not on.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9 2024 Carlton vs Gold Coast at Carlton
Post by: Baggers on May 25, 2024, 11:16:07 am
Took eleven minutes of the second, but we've kicked our first - Motlop. And held them goalless so far.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9 2024 Carlton vs Gold Coast at Carlton
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 25, 2024, 11:31:45 am
The VFL
Not going well :(

Down by 44 now
Quarter time
46-2
Either are the ones, until they both mirror competitive form we will go no where. Yes I get it we have injuries, just saying.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9 2024 Carlton vs Gold Coast at Carlton
Post by: Baggers on May 25, 2024, 11:37:01 am
Much better qtr from the Baggers.

Held them to 1pt and we kicked 3.5

Billy Wilson is a ripper.

Blues:  3.5
GCS:    7.5
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9 2024 Carlton vs Gold Coast at Carlton
Post by: Baggers on May 25, 2024, 11:37:56 am
We locked the game down in the 2nd, strong defensive effort - stopped the Suns.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9 2024 Carlton vs Gold Coast at Carlton
Post by: Baggers on May 25, 2024, 01:11:57 pm
Suns by 50pts. Their AFL listed players tore us a new one.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9 2024 Carlton vs Gold Coast at Carlton
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 25, 2024, 06:03:11 pm
Much better qtr from the Baggers.

Held them to 1pt and we kicked 3.5

Billy Wilson is a ripper.

Blues:  3.5
GCS:    7.5
Good to hear about Billy.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9 2024 Carlton vs Gold Coast at Carlton
Post by: crashlander on May 25, 2024, 07:32:14 pm
The Gold Coast had a midfield that that was mature and talented: it is better than North's and probably a few others. We had Binns, who has played less than a quarter of senior football. So, we were always under the pump.
To come back as we did, after such a disastrous start, was excellent and showed character. Giving up the last few goals ... well, that is the way it goes.
Gold Coast had the top 5 possession getters on the ground.

[1] Binns: you have to admire the way he works. A pity his disposal is so ordinary. He would have played a lot more if his disposal was reliable. Still, 26 possessions was a good day's work.

[2] Liam McMahon could be anything if he ever gets some body strength. He missed some of the easiest craps in history last week and still was dangerous. Today he managed 2 goals when our midfield was flogged. But he couldn't out-body me.
I'm not sure who we might pick in the MSD, but we could do worse than McMahon. I just don't see him challenging for a spot against Charlie and H when smaller men out-body him consistently.

[3] Wil White is a guy I like. He is a small forward from down Warnambool way and is pencil thin, but he isn't slow and he has a nice left foot and generally kicks some goals. Definitely one to look for.

[4] Jesse Motlop had 5 disposals for the game. Was he injured?

[5] Sam Durdin and Dom Akuei won't be with us next year. Both got towelled up today. Casboult kicked 3 while Day kicked 4. I'd like us to get a taller defender in the MSD, but will any still be available by the time we have our pick?

[6] Alex Mirkov probably won't be with us either next year. He does get taps, but he gets out-bodied too easily and doesn't have much game awareness. I would give him the benefit of the doubt coming back from heart surgery, but I don't know if we can afford to keep him on if he isn't going to be a senior player.
Mind you, our VFL midfield is very shallow. It doesn't doesn't matter where you tap it if the mids can't get it.

[7] Moir continues to disappoint. He has a few tricks, but he doesn't get where the ball is. It wouldn't hurt us to have him developing the 2's if we had a few more guys who were close to making it and a few less 'development' players. Monahan still doesn't get much of it, but he is more involved. he might even get a bit more of it if our mids got more of it.

[8] Billy Wilson is looking promising. 22 possessions in defence.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9 2024 Carlton vs Gold Coast at Carlton
Post by: northernblue on May 25, 2024, 07:52:40 pm
The Gold Coast had a midfield that that was mature and talented: it is better than North's and probably a few others. We had Binns, who has played less than a quarter of senior football. So, we were always under the pump.
To come back as we did, after such a disastrous start, was excellent and showed character. Giving up the last few goals ... well, that is the way it goes.
Gold Coast had the top 5 possession getters on the ground.

[1] Binns: you have to admire the way he works. A pity his disposal is so ordinary. He would have played a lot more if his disposal was reliable. Still, 26 possessions was a good day's work.

[2] Liam McMahon could be anything if he ever gets some body strength. He missed some of the easiest craps in history last week and still was dangerous. Today he managed 2 goals when our midfield was flogged. But he couldn't out-body me.
I'm not sure who we might pick in the MSD, but we could do worse than McMahon. I just don't see him challenging for a spot against Charlie and H when smaller men out-body him consistently.

[3] Wil White is a guy I like. He is a small forward from down Warnambool way and is pencil thin, but he isn't slow and he has a nice left foot and generally kicks some goals. Definitely one to look for.

[4] Jesse Motlop had 5 disposals for the game. Was he injured?

[5] Sam Durdin and Dom Akuei won't be with us next year. Both got towelled up today. Casboult kicked 3 while Day kicked 4. I'd like us to get a taller defender in the MSD, but will any still be available by the time we have our pick?

[6] Alex Mirkov probably won't be with us either next year. He does get taps, but he gets out-bodied too easily and doesn't have much game awareness. I would give him the benefit of the doubt coming back from heart surgery, but I don't know if we can afford to keep him on if he isn't going to be a senior player.
Mind you, our VFL midfield is very shallow. It doesn't doesn't matter where you tap it if the mids can't get it.

[7] Moir continues to disappoint. He has a few tricks, but he doesn't get where the ball is. It wouldn't hurt us to have him developing the 2's if we had a few more guys who were close to making it and a few less 'development' players. Monahan still doesn't get much of it, but he is more involved. he might even get a bit more of it if our mids got more of it.

[8] Billy Wilson is looking promising. 22 possessions in defence.

How did Lewis Young go crash ?
Surely he had a go at Cas and Day ?

While I’m frustrated that Big Durds has not been available when needed, I’d have thought he still fitted the bill as a back up ?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9 2024 Carlton vs Gold Coast at Carlton
Post by: crashlander on May 25, 2024, 08:16:35 pm
How did Lewis Young go crash ?
Surely he had a go at Cas and Day ?

While I’m frustrated that Big Durds has not been available when needed, I’d have thought he still fitted the bill as a back up ?
Young wasn't a disaster.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9 2024 Carlton vs Gold Coast at Carlton
Post by: Professer E on May 26, 2024, 05:29:39 pm
I'd like to see us doing better at this level but it's a bit difficult given the unbalanced nature of our list.  Hard for kids to develop when the side is getting flogged by 10 goals each week.  Kind of like the seniors five years ago.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9 2024 Carlton vs Gold Coast at Carlton
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 26, 2024, 06:07:40 pm
I'd like to see us doing better at this level but it's a bit difficult given the unbalanced nature of our list.  Hard for kids to develop when the side is getting flogged by 10 goals each week.  Kind of like the seniors five years ago.
Our VFL listed players are very average...eg you would think a player like Tom Philips would excel at this level but he has been ordinary.