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Title: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on August 03, 2024, 04:46:46 pm
Ready for tonight.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: northernblue on August 03, 2024, 07:29:18 pm
Nervous 😬
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: LoveNavy on August 03, 2024, 07:31:34 pm

Relax. We just won the toss 😂
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: LoveNavy on August 03, 2024, 07:54:39 pm
5 points. Nothing more to say.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: LoveNavy on August 03, 2024, 07:57:15 pm
McG on the L to perfection. Still can't buy a goal 😕
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on August 03, 2024, 07:57:50 pm
Nervous. Got the yips.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on August 03, 2024, 07:58:52 pm
First to settle... etc.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: LoveNavy on August 03, 2024, 08:03:04 pm
H, George, Crippa started well.
Otherwise we appear complacent, or nervous.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: northernblue on August 03, 2024, 08:04:39 pm
Great goal by H, much needed
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on August 03, 2024, 08:04:44 pm
Gotta get reward for effort.

9 shots to 4 for the first qtr.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on August 03, 2024, 08:05:39 pm
H, George, Crippa started well.
Otherwise we appear complacent, or nervous.
In psychology speak - over arousal?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on August 03, 2024, 08:11:34 pm
2nd qtr...
Please:
Make the most of opportunities.
Confidence needs a boost.

They've been more aggressive in the match-ups... we've gone conservative.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on August 03, 2024, 08:22:28 pm
Again, can't handle the expectation/pressure... fold... fail to hunt... fearful.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 08:25:21 pm
Again, can't handle the expectation/pressure... fold... fail to hunt... fearful.
I wonder what you'd be sayjng about Sydney right now.

70 to 0.  :o

We are not that bad.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: northernblue on August 03, 2024, 08:27:34 pm
WTF is going on with the Swannies ? 😳😳
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: LoveNavy on August 03, 2024, 08:33:20 pm
Cerra injured
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: PaulP on August 03, 2024, 08:33:36 pm
Nothing to provide much hope thus far. Whilst we have been in most games, some wins would be nice rather than honourable losses.

I’m listening on the wireless, but given the build up to this game, it sounds like a somewhat lacklustre affair.

Cerra out.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 08:33:48 pm
Kennedy coming on
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: LoveNavy on August 03, 2024, 08:34:57 pm
We've lost the plot
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: LoveNavy on August 03, 2024, 08:36:06 pm
Cez hamstrung again
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: LoveNavy on August 03, 2024, 08:37:57 pm
Bad kicking. We've found a new way to beat ourselves
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on August 03, 2024, 08:39:36 pm
I wonder what you'd be sayjng about Sydney right now.

70 to 0.  :o

We are not that bad.

'We are not that bad' is not the relevant comment or question. The relevant question is, 'Are we good enough?'
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: PaulP on August 03, 2024, 08:39:56 pm
Blah
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: northernblue on August 03, 2024, 08:42:36 pm
Midway through the 2nd I felt we had weathered the storm.
Cameron has been dominant, taps and general play, feeding their smalls
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 08:42:48 pm
'We are not that bad' is not the relevant comment or question. The relevant question is, 'Are we good enough?'

We've kicked 3.11 against the premiers and only behind by 13 points.

We are good enough to match it with the premiers even when playing poorly.
I think we are good enough when we start playing better.

Just need to be smarter going forward and just need to be smarter with shots kn goal.

Kicking to 3 on 1 Charlie is not smart.
Taking shots that land 2m from the goalline is not smart either.

Couple of tweaks and we can run away with it.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pinot on August 03, 2024, 08:43:44 pm
'We are not that bad' is not the relevant comment or question. The relevant question is, 'Are we good enough?'

Yes but we are playing with 17 players on the ground as Cameron is having a party on Pitto.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: cookie2 on August 03, 2024, 08:46:10 pm
Collingwood look a lot more composed and organised than us so far. We look loose by comparison and we’re lucky not to be further adrift imo. Let’s hope we can turn it around 2H, Jack Martin for a start.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: shawny on August 03, 2024, 08:48:32 pm
We've kicked 3.11 against the premiers and only behind by 13 points.

We are good enough to match it with the premiers even when playing poorly.
I think we are good enough when we start playing better.

Just need to be smarter going forward and just need to be smarter with shots kn goal.

Kicking to 3 on 1 Charlie is not smart.
Taking shots that land 2m from the goalline is not smart either.

Couple of tweaks and we can run away with it.

Geez mate you really are a glass half full.
5 rushed behinds in those 11 points.
Enough excuses. We are their bitches and unless there is massive changes we are done
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pinot on August 03, 2024, 08:48:35 pm
We are defending stoppages better but losing contested possessions.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on August 03, 2024, 08:50:11 pm
Yes but we are playing with 17 players on the ground as Cameron is having a party on Pitto.

Pitto has a good few non-hacker mates.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: LoveNavy on August 03, 2024, 08:51:21 pm
We're struggling to make a marking contest again and again.

Reset

Go Blues
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 08:51:23 pm
Geez mate you really are a glass half full.
5 rushed behinds in those 11 points.
Enough excuses. We are their bitches and unless there is massive changes we are done

Are they rushing those behinds from the middle of the ground or is the ball getting to the goalline?

We have no issue getting it there. Just need to be smarter with it.

Get Charlie up the ground.
Sit Harry in the goal square.
Play martin as the hit up forward.
Take the long bomb deep out of the equation as it isn't working for us.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pinot on August 03, 2024, 08:51:26 pm
Pitto has a good few non-hacker mates.

Completely uncompetitive.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on August 03, 2024, 08:52:08 pm
Collingwood look a lot more composed and organised than us so far. We look loose by comparison and we’re lucky not to be further adrift imo. Let’s hope we can turn it around 2H, Jack Martin for a start.
Good observation, Cookie. Undisciplined vs confused.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: cookie2 on August 03, 2024, 08:52:12 pm
Pitto has a good few non-hacker mates.

Yep, we are far too loose and are making too many errors.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: LoveNavy on August 03, 2024, 08:52:17 pm
Cottrell and Cerra both injured 😒
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pertz on August 03, 2024, 08:52:27 pm
Collingwood look a lot more composed and organised than us so far. We look loose by comparison and we’re lucky not to be further adrift imo. Let’s hope we can turn it around 2H, Jack Martin for a start.
Spot on. More composed, smarter and better organised. 
We have the talent but are choking under the Collingwood pressure.
Couldn't get it out of defence for 10 minutes.
Still bombing it to Charlie with 3 hanging off him.
Need to play smarter and they are very beatable but can we?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 08:52:49 pm
Yes but we are playing with 17 players on the ground as Cameron is having a party on Pitto.

Well at least you have moved on from blaming the small forwards.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on August 03, 2024, 08:54:24 pm
Bottom line is that we should not be all talking like this... But we are. Top 4 side vs a struggling to make it side. We have issues.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pinot on August 03, 2024, 08:54:27 pm
Well at least you have moved on from blaming the small forwards.


I call a spade a spade all I want is our small forwards locking the ball in all I want rucks is to lay tackles and be competitive.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pertz on August 03, 2024, 08:54:57 pm
Anyone who believes Pittonet is a decent Ruckman, tell me what has he done in the first half?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: northernblue on August 03, 2024, 08:55:38 pm
Absolutely must stop the long bomb to deep forward !
Gotta lower our eyes and make and honor leads.
It’s the only way to stop the 15 teaming on H&C
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Shakin77 on August 03, 2024, 08:58:06 pm
Good news is it's only 13 points.    We have replaced Aliir Aliir with Darcy Cameron.   Just keep kicking it down his throat.   Need better ball movement in the 2nd half'
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Micky0 on August 03, 2024, 09:00:09 pm
We have 2 top 5 in the Coleman medal race playing  tonight. A recent brownlow medallist.  What is going on.  We should be smashing them, instead we’re behind!

Thought this was our year - I’ve missed seeing the first half but end of 2nd quarter listening on radio heard they’re getting physical - I hope we’re retaliating!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 09:01:00 pm
Acres done his shoulder agajn
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pinot on August 03, 2024, 09:06:05 pm
Seems we may be out of the eight this round lads
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: PaulP on August 03, 2024, 09:07:23 pm
I can’t see us winning this.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 09:08:27 pm
Elijah makes an error in front of goal.

Pies don't.

Game in nutshell.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: shawny on August 03, 2024, 09:09:42 pm
Are they rushing those behinds from the middle of the ground or is the ball getting to the goalline?

We have no issue getting it there. Just need to be smarter with it.

Get Charlie up the ground.
Sit Harry in the goal square.
Play martin as the hit up forward.
Take the long bomb deep out of the equation as it isn't working for us.

Okay mate. We are full of excuses. Been the same for too long
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on August 03, 2024, 09:10:29 pm
Fly did his homework... figured us out beautifully, they knew they could deliver for Pendlebury.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 09:11:21 pm
Why would we throw cripps into the ruck?
He'll get hurt.
 :o

Or not
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: PaulP on August 03, 2024, 09:11:40 pm
Doing our best St Kilda impersonation. Midway through the 3rd and we have 36 points on the board. Sigh………
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 09:12:16 pm
Okay mate. We are full of excuses. Been the same for too long

Premiership captain on the tv said the same thing j said.

But yeah, I'm the issue.

Oh look, Martin goal.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 09:13:18 pm
Doing our best St Kilda impersonation. Midway through the 3rd and we have 36 points on the board. Sigh………
Swans have 9.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: LoveNavy on August 03, 2024, 09:13:35 pm

Flaky injury management bites again 😑
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 09:15:06 pm
Flaky injury management bites again 😑
Nah, can't blame them. Acres threw himself into a collision.
Fully healthy would've had a similar effect.
Too brave for his own good.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on August 03, 2024, 09:17:00 pm
Just psychologically soft. Lovely blokes, all of them. But our team culture is not that of a hunter.
Wish Vossy could coach as he played.
Bottom line is that we are not playing a top 8 team this evening. But they're passionate, and that seems to intimidate us. And intimidating us is not such a difficult job, based on recent weeks.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: shawny on August 03, 2024, 09:18:49 pm
Elijah makes an error in front of goal.

Pies don't.

Game in nutshell.

In a nutshell they are just a much better football club than us. 
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: LoveNavy on August 03, 2024, 09:19:15 pm

X2
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 09:22:19 pm
In a nutshell they are just a much better football club than us.

I said during the week that they are the premiers and have only 5 players different from the gf team and I doubt they've forgotten how to play the game.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pertz on August 03, 2024, 09:22:44 pm
They are flicking it around, taking risks, pushing it forward at a costs and we can't cope...
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: PaulP on August 03, 2024, 09:23:59 pm

I can appreciate you’re trying to provide some context and a comparison, but I get no comfort from the Swans score at all.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 09:24:49 pm
Umpires conspiring against us.

They've had about 10 throws in the past 5 minutes including crups one handed over his head....none paid.

That in the back there would be holding the ball 90% of the time.

Our goal game from dropping the ball....that they didn't pay.

Little moments all going against us.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 09:26:06 pm
I can appreciate you’re trying to provide some context and a comparison, but I get no comfort from the Swans score at all.

Point is doesn't matter how good or bad you are there is always someone who has done worse despite being better.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 09:26:51 pm
Again, commentators reiterating what j said earlier about being stupid in front of goal.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on August 03, 2024, 09:33:08 pm
The latter part of this season looks so much like 2022.

Expectation rises, we sink. So much still wrong with our club. Even if we make the finals, it'll be just making up the numbers.

Not sure I can watch any more of this... there is nothing in the demeanor of the players that says anything about confidence /mental toughness. Quite the opposite. What a waste.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pinot on August 03, 2024, 09:34:52 pm
They are flicking it around, taking risks, pushing it forward at a costs and we can't cope...

We look stale not out of form. Filth beating us with third raters like Bytel and Ned Long.. losing contested possessions the way this group is connected unlikely we will play finals this year.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: shawny on August 03, 2024, 09:35:31 pm
Spin it any way you want we failed again when it matters.
The footy world waits for us to fail and we accomodate everytime.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Micky0 on August 03, 2024, 09:35:41 pm
The latter part of this season looks so much like 2022.

Expectation rises, we sink. So much still wrong with our club. Even if we make the finals, it'll be just making up the numbers.

Not sure I can watch any more of this... there is nothing in the demeanor of the players that says anything about confidence /mental toughness. Quite the opposite. What a waste.
Well put.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pinot on August 03, 2024, 09:36:23 pm
Spin it any way you want we failed again when it matters.
The footy world waits for us to fail and we accomodate everytime.

Yup - time for excuses for this group is so 2021
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 09:37:09 pm
Far from ideal.
In fact we haven't played much worse in quite a while.

Facts are though that it's 20 scoring shots each and they have been cleaner in their forward half.

It's not as bad as people are making out and we don't need to burn the place down.

I'd like to see vossy make a few more moves and bring Charlie into the game a bit more.
Get jack Martin in a few centre bounces and let him work his magic.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: BluePhantom on August 03, 2024, 09:38:02 pm
The latter part of this season looks so much like 2022.

Expectation rises, we sink. So much still wrong with our club. Even if we make the finals, it'll be just making up the numbers.

Not sure I can watch any more of this... there is nothing in the demeanor of the players that says anything about confidence /mental toughness. Quite the opposite. What a waste.
Waste of a year,
Waste of talent,
Waste of the great position we had ourselves on the ladder,
Waste of expectations,
But the club will still keep us engaged by dragging up the good ol days.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: BluePhantom on August 03, 2024, 09:39:09 pm
Far from ideal.
In fact we haven't played much worse in quite a while.

Facts are though that it's 20 scoring shots each and they have been cleaner in their forward half.

It's not as bad as people are making out and we don't need to burn the place down.

I'd like to see vossy make a few more moves and bring Charlie into the game a bit more.
Get jack Martin in a few centre bounces and let him work his magic.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on August 03, 2024, 09:39:22 pm
Umpires conspiring against us.
/quote]

No they're not. Nothing to do with the umpires. It's entirely on us.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: LoveNavy on August 03, 2024, 09:41:31 pm
Bye Blues 👋
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 09:41:37 pm
Gov shoulder
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: shawny on August 03, 2024, 09:42:34 pm
Pits IQ would be single digit.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pertz on August 03, 2024, 09:43:24 pm
The latter part of this season looks so much like 2022.

Expectation rises, we sink. So much still wrong with our club. Even if we make the finals, it'll be just making up the numbers.

Not sure I can watch any more of this... there is nothing in the demeanor of the players that says anything about confidence /mental toughness. Quite the opposite. What a waste.
Spot on.
Weak as piss.
We're cooked.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 09:43:32 pm

So why don't we play..... ?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pertz on August 03, 2024, 09:43:38 pm
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: shawny on August 03, 2024, 09:44:06 pm
Pls anyone that says pit is afl standard wat h this game. Absolutely smashed against 1st 2nd ruckman.
Cost us massively tonight
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pinot on August 03, 2024, 09:44:20 pm
What a ripper by Eli
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: shawny on August 03, 2024, 09:44:45 pm

Is that english?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 09:45:17 pm
Pls anyone that says pit is afl standard wat h this game. Absolutely smashed against 1st 2nd ruckman.
Cost us massively tonight
So blame the list manager.

Cupboard is bare.You don't like him, you never have, that's fine but there is nobody else there so deal with it.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 09:46:01 pm

Yep....see last post. It's saying the same thing for the slow ones out there.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on August 03, 2024, 09:46:28 pm
Far from ideal.
In fact we haven't played much worse in quite a while.

Facts are though that it's 20 scoring shots each and they have been cleaner in their forward half.

It's not as bad as people are making out and we don't need to burn the place down.

Oh, stop making excuses, K. No-one is wanting to burn the place down, we're just facing the painful reality that we are not nearly as good as we thought we are/were, as the club would have us believe.

Bottom line is that above the shoulders we are meh. We've got the cattle but something else, something really important is missing.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: shawny on August 03, 2024, 09:46:50 pm
Kennedy been horrible
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: DrWorm on August 03, 2024, 09:47:39 pm
Pittonett, the only man whose nose has more influence on a game than he does. Think about how many members are paying his wage and weep like I am.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: PaulP on August 03, 2024, 09:48:16 pm
There’s a part of me that is hoping that by some miracle we make finals, and another part thinks it would be pointless and a waste of time.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: northernblue on August 03, 2024, 09:49:19 pm

Yeah Kennedy as sub has cost us the game… 🙄
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: PaulP on August 03, 2024, 09:50:34 pm
Now Charlie is hobbling. Great.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 09:51:03 pm
Oh, stop making excuses, K. No-one is wanting to burn the place down, we're just facing the painful reality that we are not nearly as good as we thought we are/were, as the club would have us believe.

Bottom line is that above the shoulders we are meh. We've got the cattle but something else, something really important is missing.

What excuses did I make there? None.

We are not playing our best. Not shykng away from that.
Just saying a lot of people underestimating our opponents or overstating our deficiencies.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 09:52:45 pm
Charlie's goalkicking streak will come to an end tonight.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: BluePhantom on August 03, 2024, 09:53:26 pm
What excuses did I make there? None.

We are not playing our best. Not shykng away from that.
Just saying a lot of people underestimating our opponents or overstating our deficiencies.
No, just typically and annually over estimating our talent!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: northernblue on August 03, 2024, 09:54:19 pm
Great mark and kick Martin
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 09:54:45 pm
Goal kicking / forward craft on the agenda at training this week.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 09:59:36 pm
If we win this game it will be someone like Martin that will make it happen.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 10:01:06 pm
Where are all the mentally soft people now?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 10:02:29 pm
Single digital iq gets a good hta to set up that goal.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: BluePhantom on August 03, 2024, 10:06:01 pm
Where are all the mentally soft people now?
Chewing fingernails
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on August 03, 2024, 10:08:26 pm
We are not playing our best. Not shykng away from that.
Just saying a lot of people underestimating our opponents or overstating our deficiencies.

K, opponents won't let us play our best. Simple as that, and when thwarted, we sh*t the bed... that's above the shoulders. Nothing to do with over or underestimating opponents. It's about us. And how far from delivering on our potential we actually are. Reality - we're better than we were 3 years ago, but still not nearly good enough to be top 4 or being a genuine premiership contender.

Still plenty of problems at PP to confront before we are a serious threat. Tonight's effort was just short of embarrassing against a side in ordinary form, but passionate.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 10:12:06 pm
Single digit IQ might have just won us the game.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: PaulP on August 03, 2024, 10:13:01 pm
Fanculo
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 10:13:07 pm
Gov?!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pinot on August 03, 2024, 10:13:41 pm
Ah well we get better draft picks and better draw next year I suppose.

Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Shakin77 on August 03, 2024, 10:13:53 pm
Classic Gov.  
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 10:14:22 pm
K, opponents won't let us play our best. Simple as that, and when thwarted, we sh*t the bed... that's above the shoulders. Nothing to do with over or underestimating opponents. It's about us. And how far from delivering on our potential we actually are. Reality - we're better than we were 3 years ago, but still not nearly good enough to be top 4 or being a genuine premiership contender.

Still plenty of problems at PP to confront before we are a serious threat. Tonight's effort was just short of embarrassing against a side in ordinary form, but passionate.

Blah blah blah we were terrible useless mentally soft....still only lost by a kick after the siren.

Not such a bad side.

Just need to tweak a few things.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: PaulP on August 03, 2024, 10:14:53 pm
Good fight back in the last, but the first 3 quarters really gave me the shi1ts
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: northernblue on August 03, 2024, 10:15:13 pm
We were never in it but we were never out of it…
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pinot on August 03, 2024, 10:15:35 pm
No sugar coating this loss - media will rightfully give us a grilling.

Had to depend coming back from 32 pts down from a team that depended on Bytel and Long.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 10:16:58 pm
We were never in it but we were never out of it…

That's the thing that shots me about our supporters.
Got very quiet in here with 5 minutes to go. Seems everyone turned off.
This team will not give up.
Have people forgotten the finals?

Not playing our best, sure, but not worthy of all the drama by our supporters either.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pinot on August 03, 2024, 10:18:05 pm
I don't think I have seen a ruckman lay one tackle in five games. In rare company
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: laj on August 03, 2024, 10:18:46 pm
Gov kicked one from there after the siren for Adelaide against the Pies to draw a game from 50pts down. For Carlton.........OOF!

Kicked badly all night and that topped it off.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 10:20:14 pm
I don't think I have seen a ruckman lay one tackle in five games. In rare company

Answer me this.
When was the last time a ruck, any ruck, laid a tackle that won a free kick?

Of all the bs stats you wanna trot out, that's about the worst of them.
Go rewatch the last 30 seconds and see how gov got that shot on goal. That is what a ruckman is supposed to do.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pinot on August 03, 2024, 10:20:52 pm
Gov had a good game can't blame him for that miss shouldn't have come down to the last kick.

Charlie and co were laughing before the game - Crippa was laughing when Gov took the mark.

I sense poor and unprofessional attitude in this group.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: northernblue on August 03, 2024, 10:22:08 pm
That's the thing that shots me about our supporters.
Got very quiet in here with 5 minutes to go. Seems everyone turned off.
This team will not give up.
Have people forgotten the finals?

Not playing our best, sure, but not worthy of all the drama by our supporters either.

There’s not a whole lot of perspective in the ingame threads, slightly more in the post game threads and plenty of optimism in the pregame threads, rollercoaster city 🤣
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pinot on August 03, 2024, 10:22:44 pm
Answer me this.
When was the last time a ruck, any ruck, laid a tackle that won a free kick?

Of all the bs stats you wanna trot out, that's about the worst of them.
Go rewatch the last 30 seconds and see how gov got that shot on goal. That is what a ruckman is supposed to do.

What when how?

He is a crab AFL footballer... and is a liability.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 10:23:25 pm
What when how?

He is a crab AFL footballer... and is a liability.

No mirrors in your house?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Micky0 on August 03, 2024, 10:23:33 pm
Blah blah blah we were terrible useless mentally soft....still only lost by a kick after the siren.

Not such a bad side.

Just need to tweak a few things.
Ahhh we’ve been putrid for 5 weeks now.

When exactly are we tweaking anything? 
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: northernblue on August 03, 2024, 10:23:36 pm
Gov had a good game can't blame him for that miss shouldn't have come down to the last kick.

Charlie and co were laughing before the game - Crippa was laughing when Gov took the mark.

I sense poor and unprofessional attitude in this group.
I sense someone who has a tenuous grip on reality…
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Micky0 on August 03, 2024, 10:24:52 pm
Gov kicked one from there after the siren for Adelaide against the Pies to draw a game from 50pts down. For Carlton.........OOF!

Kicked badly all night and that topped it off.
Didn’t take our screwing opportunities and that puts a screwing exclamation mark on it!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Shakin77 on August 03, 2024, 10:28:12 pm
If you see us as a side that was going to finish top 2 and have a crack at the flag then that side wins the last two weeks.   And pretty easy
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on August 03, 2024, 10:30:23 pm
That's the thing that shots me about our supporters.
Got very quiet in here with 5 minutes to go. Seems everyone turned off.
This team will not give up.
Have people forgotten the finals?

Not playing our best, sure, but not worthy of all the drama by our supporters either.

Again, oh stop it K, we played a good side in ordinary form and lost. In fact only when they tired did we show anything vaguely resembling a premiership contender.

Reality is we are at the bottom of the 8. Deservedly so. Nothing to do with tweaking... we should have won and won well, if we were the real deal. Face facts.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: northernblue on August 03, 2024, 10:32:47 pm
They were up for Pendles.
That was the difference.
No idea who they play next week but they’ll go down by 5 goals.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on August 03, 2024, 10:33:02 pm
Again, oh stop it K, we played a good side in ordinary form and lost. In fact only when they tired did we show anything vaguely resembling a premiership contender.

Reality is we are at the bottom of the 8. Deservedly so. Nothing to do with tweaking... we should have won and won well, if we were the real deal. Face facts.

I wrote this jn the in-game.
Prophetic.
Elijah makes an error in front of goal.

Pies don't.

Game in nutshell.

Same logic, different name.

Fine line between win and a loss.
No point sooking it up.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: laj on August 03, 2024, 10:45:24 pm
There’s not a whole lot of perspective in the ingame threads, slightly more in the post game threads and plenty of optimism in the pregame threads, rollercoaster city 🤣

In-game we get a chance to vent like @#$#@!. Post game we can be more measured...haha.