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Title: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: DJC on October 24, 2024, 08:20:57 pm
Go for it!
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: kruddler on October 24, 2024, 08:42:27 pm
I'll pass on the kool-aid thanks.
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on October 25, 2024, 02:59:07 pm
https://au.yahoo.com/news/calls-dan-andrews-sacked-013759500.html
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: shawny on November 04, 2024, 12:55:30 pm

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/listen-to-daniel-andrews-triple-0-call-moments-after-collision-with-cyclist-20241101-p5kn9z.html

Yet people will continue to support him and find anything they can to defend this crook.

Again he just continues to take any accountability for anything he has ever done - that alone sums the guy up.

His long tentacles reached out to those in higher places to protect him and his wife that day and shows you what can be achieved when you hold a powerful position in this country. Disgusting.
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: shawny on April 24, 2025, 12:53:52 pm
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-20/melbourne-covid-curfew-foi-documents-health-advice/105194726

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/damning-email-exposes-truth-about-dan-andrews-contentious-melbourne-covid-restriction/news-story/8034340a010c084ce3df97043f454b7

And this ones not going away by the looks of it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14637069/Cyclist-Dan-Andrews-crash-payout.html

Many here never miss a anything negative about Mr Trump yet are very quiet on our ex Dictator lying premier. Hmm. Funny that  
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: PaulP on April 24, 2025, 01:43:57 pm
The News article link gives me a "Page Not Found" error, so I can't read it. I suspect it would be a hopelessly biased version of the ABC article. Either way, their style of news reporting, over decades, is embarrassing. News clearly cannot stand a successful Labor Premier who doesn't kiss their ar$e.

The ABC article seems to indicate that Andrews foreshadowed the advice that he was inevitably about to receive, and acted proactively. I don't see anything terribly wrong there.

I don't have an opinion on the bike accident. Too much information lacking, and too much he said she said. I don't see how anyone can follow the data.
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: kruddler on April 24, 2025, 01:56:57 pm
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-20/melbourne-covid-curfew-foi-documents-health-advice/105194726

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/damning-email-exposes-truth-about-dan-andrews-contentious-melbourne-covid-restriction/news-story/8034340a010c084ce3df97043f454b7

And this ones not going away by the looks of it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14637069/Cyclist-Dan-Andrews-crash-payout.html

Many here never miss a anything negative about Mr Trump yet are very quiet on our ex Dictator lying premier. Hmm. Funny that

Last article is about his mrs and not his governing.

Second article doesn't link.

First article is about how he 'used powers' without 'medical advice'.......or at least before medical advice had come through officiall channels.

It does NOT say what he did went against medical advice, nor does it say what he did was wrong.
Its all about the timing of it.
Technically, he may have jumped the gun before official channels confirmed proper course of action.
Alternatively, if he took too long to act, he would've been criticised for that as well.

Seems like perfect timing to release this kind of mud-slinging stuff right before election.

Time to move on people, this is from 5 years ago now!
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: DJC on April 24, 2025, 01:59:49 pm
The News article link gives me a "Page Not Found" error, so I can't read it. I suspect it would be a hopelessly biased version of the ABC article. Either way, their style of news reporting, over decades, is embarrassing. News clearly cannot stand a successful Labor Premier who doesn't kiss their ar$e.

The ABC article seems to indicate that Andrews foreshadowed the advice that he was inevitably about to receive, and acted proactively. I don't see anything terribly wrong there.

I don't have an opinion on the bike accident. Too much information lacking, and too much he said she said. I don't see how anyone can follow the data.

Well, the cyclist's former lawyers couldn't follow the data as they've reached a settlement with him for apparently bungling the case.  They were obviously part of the conspiracy too  ::)
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 24, 2025, 02:18:22 pm
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-20/melbourne-covid-curfew-foi-documents-health-advice/105194726

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/damning-email-exposes-truth-about-dan-andrews-contentious-melbourne-covid-restriction/news-story/8034340a010c084ce3df97043f454b7

And this ones not going away by the looks of it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14637069/Cyclist-Dan-Andrews-crash-payout.html

Many here never miss a anything negative about Mr Trump yet are very quiet on our ex Dictator lying premier. Hmm. Funny that  

They should put his statue outside Port Philip prison he is the most corrupt state premier ever with zero accountability.
He makes Trump look respectable...
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 24, 2025, 02:57:39 pm
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-20/melbourne-covid-curfew-foi-documents-health-advice/105194726

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/damning-email-exposes-truth-about-dan-andrews-contentious-melbourne-covid-restriction/news-story/8034340a010c084ce3df97043f454b7

And this ones not going away by the looks of it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14637069/Cyclist-Dan-Andrews-crash-payout.html

Many here never miss a anything negative about Mr Trump yet are very quiet on our ex Dictator lying premier. Hmm. Funny that  

They should put his statue outside Port Philip prison he is the most corrupt state premier ever with zero accountability.
He makes Trump look respectable...

A bit harsh EB, do you think he was corrupt or just liked to dictate and rule his way? From a leadership perspective I see similarities between him and Kennett.
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 24, 2025, 03:26:07 pm

They should put his statue outside Port Philip prison he is the most corrupt state premier ever with zero accountability.
He makes Trump look respectable...

A bit harsh EB, do you think he was corrupt or just liked to dictate and rule his way? From a leadership perspective I see similarities between him and Kennett.
GTC I see him as corrupt, doesnt have any memory on missing money or who signed for what, happy to throw his own ministers under the bus to save his own hide and you have respected identities like ex Police chief Kel Glare calling the Andrews Govt the most corrupt he has seen in his lifetime. How many investigations did the Anti-corruption Commission have into the Andrews government four or five?
He was a great Dictator/Politician for sure and wrote the playbook for how to survive as a corrupt leader mainly thanks to such an inept Opposition but he has totally fecked Victoria and got away with it and to see him feted as some CoVid hero makes me want to vomit...
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: crashlander on April 24, 2025, 03:53:40 pm
Dan wanted to be President Xi and wanted to make Victoria into China. I'm glad to see the back of him.

But, no matter who governs, Victoria is going to take a long time recovering.
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: RiverRat on April 24, 2025, 03:56:54 pm
I just noticed that number plates identify Victoria as the "Education State".

What a joke.  More accurate options would include "Bankrupt State", "Lawless State" and "Socialist State".

Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: LP on April 24, 2025, 04:08:54 pm
I doubt anyone, God included, could make Trump look respectable, he dwells at the wrong altitude.

When views oppose everybody wants the detail, but when accusations align with political beliefs it seems the detail can be further away than a RedTrump gimme putt! ;D

Everybody should strive to be consistent, to hold people to high standards apply it equally to all from any perspective. When people start making exceptions or become plastic in assessment this is what will cause disputes and deliver opportunities to those who are corrupt. The USA is learning this lesson harder than anyone before!
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 24, 2025, 08:31:45 pm
A bit harsh EB, do you think he was corrupt or just liked to dictate and rule his way? From a leadership perspective I see similarities between him and Kennett.
GTC I see him as corrupt, doesnt have any memory on missing money or who signed for what, happy to throw his own ministers under the bus to save his own hide and you have respected identities like ex Police chief Kel Glare calling the Andrews Govt the most corrupt he has seen in his lifetime. How many investigations did the Anti-corruption Commission have into the Andrews government four or five?
He was a great Dictator/Politician for sure and wrote the playbook for how to survive as a corrupt leader mainly thanks to such an inept Opposition but he has totally fecked Victoria and got away with it and to see him feted as some CoVid hero makes me want to vomit...
Yeah forgot about the "I dont recall" line he and all his chronies trotted out during the covid f-up investigation. How can so many investigations not uncover anything substantial? We criticise other countries and ours is just as bad if not worse.
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: crashlander on April 24, 2025, 09:40:47 pm
I just noticed that number plates identify Victoria as the "Education State".

What a joke.  More accurate options would include "Bankrupt State", "Lawless State" and "Socialist State".

Any other suggestions?
I've been a teacher for more than 40 years. I can't say that teaching today is any better than it was when I started, for all the changes there have been. There is more support for teachers now, but student quality has not improved, nor had student behaviour. I've taught some shockers over the years, but the lack of respect now is at an all time high.

That said, our tertiary education is still more than decent, even if students spend nowhere near as much time on campus. In my 3rd year, I was rarely out of the lab and only to go to lectures. Now lab time is much less. Much less.
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: PaulP on April 24, 2025, 09:46:52 pm
I've been a teacher for more than 40 years. I can't say that teaching today is any better than it was when I started, for all the changes there have been. There is more support for teachers now, but student quality has not improved, nor had student behaviour. I've taught some shockers over the years, but the lack of respect now is at an all time high.

That said, our tertiary education is still more than decent, even if students spend nowhere near as much time on campus. In my 3rd year, I was rarely out of the lab and only to go to lectures. Now lab time is much less. Much less.

This is a global phenomenon, if reports from teachers all over the world are anything to go by.
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: Professer E on April 24, 2025, 10:06:10 pm
Is the lady who threw a punch at last night's library fracas going to get charged ?
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: Thryleon on April 25, 2025, 12:08:37 am
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Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: Professer E on April 25, 2025, 06:19:19 am
Land tax is a rort to cover up for crap government.
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: Lods on April 25, 2025, 06:27:57 am
We have a thread for the Federal election.

https://www.carltonsc.com/index.php?topic=7184.0

It probably says a lot about our general lack of enthusiasm for the candidates and parties that it's not generating a lot of interest.

So that we don't get a duplication and two threads talking about the same things can we confine the discussion to just one thread.
I'm not fussed which one, maybe leave this one for Victorian politics.
The Federal election will be done and dusted in a week.

Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 25, 2025, 07:12:17 am
Andrews caught trying to use a wealthy mates wife's id after changing the name to get into Moonah links golf course....this after trying to join Portsea golf club previously and the members having a fit and opposing his application.
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 25, 2025, 07:54:36 am
Is the lady who threw a punch at last night's library fracas going to get charged ?
That was laughable.
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 25, 2025, 07:56:23 am
Land tax is a rort to cover up for crap government.
Again, they want to tax the hard working  and those who cant afford it instead of those that can (big corporates). Disgraceful.
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: Professer E on April 25, 2025, 08:30:19 am
Income tax. To cover national responsibilities. I understand this.

Rates....hugely excessive in Vic
Stamp duty. Again, why?
Land tax. WTF?
And they are talking death taxes.

All to pay for a state government that bankrupted the state to pay for some white elephant infrastructure.  Prime example of fiscal irresponsibility.
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: Professer E on April 25, 2025, 08:34:06 am
I'm not standing up for the crazies but they live under the same rules as everyone else.  If that bloke dropped that woman imagine the crapstorm.  The rules have to apply to everyone equally or why bother to adhere to them? What are the crazies thinking after this incident.... If the rules don't apply to others, drop the pretense of society?
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: shawny on April 25, 2025, 08:39:49 am
Andrews caught trying to use a wealthy mates wife's id after changing the name to get into Moonah links golf course....this after trying to join Portsea golf club previously and the members having a fit and opposing his application.


I saw that EB. I must say i get great joy out of businesses not forgetting what he did. He may not pay for his crimes by the state as he seems to have an uncanny knack of having friends in high places to protect him and of course his on again off again amnesia condition.

However those affected by his make it up as he goes while happily running the state to the ground all to protect his own ego wont be forgotten.

Want to play Golf Dan may have to build a course in your backyard. 

Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 25, 2025, 09:16:04 am
I'm not standing up for the crazies but they live under the same rules as everyone else.  If that bloke dropped that woman imagine the crapstorm.  The rules have to apply to everyone equally or why bother to adhere to them? What are the crazies thinking after this incident.... If the rules don't apply to others, drop the pretense of society?
Yeah I get it Prof, but you could hardly call what the old lady did a punch. You're right though I guess.
Title: Re: Dan’s statue, neo-nazis, local government, potholes and Victoria generally
Post by: LP on April 25, 2025, 09:56:44 am
I'm not standing up for the crazies but they live under the same rules as everyone else.  If that bloke dropped that woman imagine the crapstorm.  The rules have to apply to everyone equally or why bother to adhere to them? What are the crazies thinking after this incident.... If the rules don't apply to others, drop the pretense of society?
This is an absolute given, no exceptions, when exceptions applies chaos rules because people are pricks.